flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

On 2-Aug-2006, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net> wrote:

"Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon"
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"jgarbuz" <

Surfer wrote:

On 1 Aug 2006 13:43:23 -0700, "GatherNoMoss" <saints2060@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Just what is the origin of all this mistrust and hatred of Jews ?

It may have come from reading stuff in the Talmud.

Eg. see:

The Laws Against Non-Jews
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html#Gentiles

But does anyone know if the above link is reliable?<

I have already posted the fact that it is not.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/

Look, the "Talmud" goes on from even before the time of Jesus all the
way before the birth of ISlam. Much of the Land of Israel was being
occupied by Gentiles and ruled by Romans and other foreigners imposing
themselves on the Jewish homeland. And so some of the anti-gentile
statements made by some rabbis have to be understood within that
context.

Garbuz is a rather anti-religious Jew who actually has no clue as to what's
really in Talmud, or he'd pointout that the site given by the previous
poster
is a fraud.<

I am NOT "anti-religious" and I did study a few tidbits of Talmud as a
kid in Yeshiva.
That hardly makes me a "Talmud chacham" (talmudic whizkid), but it gave
me general idea of what it's all about.

EVen Jesus in the NT says things like he didn't come to teach
the gentiles, but only the lost sheep of Israel. He tells the
Canaanite
woman up in Lebanon that he doesn't throw pearls before pigs. There is
talk of the "Good Samaritan," in contrast to the other Samaritans who
were seen as non-Jews who had been occupying Jewish land since the
Assyrian conquest of the Kingdom of Israel. So unless you understand
the political realities of "Palestine" and the oppression the Jews
were
feeling at the hands of various "heathens" in their land, then some of
those statements in the talmud, to the extent that they exist at all,
would sound biased. But they are merely the emotional reactions of the
oppressed against their oppressors.<<

Fair enough - but do Jews still believe the Talmud today?

I see that "phil" is descending fiurthre into the depths of
the wosrt sort of lying Jew-hatred.<<

These non-responses are hardly helpful to our cause. Answer a question
with an answer, not with a meaningless diatribe.

Is any Jewish poster here prepared to condemn its teachings?

This is a new tactic? To ask someone to deny rather than uphold?<<

Meaningless, contentless answer to a straightforward question.

No, it's a new tactic: throw out new lie to obfuscate
the fact that the old ones have been exposed.

Susan

No wonder you are outside the realm of logic.

Norma<

Susan is no "talmud chachama," but she's a member of the tribe. I only
wish she actually knew something. It would help rather than embarrass.