Science > Abortion > Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!!
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Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!! |
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:31:33 GMT,
"Barbara Walker" <barbara.walker4@verizon.net> wrote:
Robin" <robinandtami@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Billary" <Billary@vastrightwingconspiracy.org> wrote:
Thank you president Bush. Obviously your plan and strategy
is keeping America safe.
Thanks for NOTHING, Warmonger-in-Thief Bush.
If the terrorists were really serious, they could do REAL damage
to us anytime they want. You've just gotten lucky!!
Just to show you HOW easy that would be... how about a smuggled
nuke into one of our major harbors in a container ship. Only about one
percent of those containers even get looked at.
And then there is the scenario below, which I wrote and posted
not long after 9/11 -- when the government was asking people to
speculate on possible ways we could be attacked. If the terrorists
REALLY were out to get us, they could do it in a MAJOR way, with
very little effort.
For example:
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"Santa Ana Wind-Initiated Firestorm"
This idea goes back to something I saw in "LIFE" Magazine in,
I think, 1953. We'd just exploded our first H-Bomb in the Pacific,
designated, "Operation Ivy." And the magazine was FILLED with
color and B&W photos of the fireball, mushroom cloud, etc. And
ONE sequence of photos that was unforgettable, even though it
showed nothing of the bomb.
It described how a city could quickly be engulfed in firestorm as
a result of an airburst nuclear bomb setting fires all over the city.
It was illustrated by a model in which (I'm guessing, since
I remember the photos, but not clearly enough to have the actual
count) somewhere between 2,500 and 10,000 birthday cake candles
had been mounted on a board in a square matrix that probably was
either 50 x 50 or 100 x100. The candles were close enough together
that if one were to be ignited, its heat would ignite the ADJACENT
ones.
In the next photo, perhaps 50 or so of those candles had been
lit, all over the field, but the flames had not yet spread. This was
to simulate the many fires that had been ignited during the thermal
pulse from the aerial burst of the H-Bomb.
In the third photo, as I recall, several large conflagrations
were in progress, across the field.
The LAST photo was the STARTLING one. It showed that ALL the
fires had MERGED, and now were blazing in a HUGE, single fire, which
reached perhaps 2-3 feet, or more, high, resembling the sort of fire
that one sees at pre-football-game bonfires. But remember THIS: That
photo was showing the fire that resulted in such a scenario using mere
BIRTHDAY CAKE candles, each of which were perhaps only an inch or
so high.
This was a MODEL. A SIMULATION of a firetorm that could turn a
city into -- NOT a mere conflagration... which is what the Chicago
Fire was, blazing across the city in a single front -- a SINGLE, huge
funeral pyre!
Now here's the scary part: It would NOT take a nuclear blast to
produce an IDENTICAL scenario in an actual city.
ALL it would take is for MANY fires to be set, SIMULTANEOUSLY,
at vulnerable spots throughout any large city.
Let's use the L.A. Basin as an example. (But it could JUST as
easily be done in other cities, such as San Diego, given the same
conditions.)
(1) A group of as few as perhaps 8 or 10, or even as many
as 18 or 20 or more terrorists has devised a plan, and
they have constructed very SIMPLE incendiary devices
attached to timers. (Any high school kid could devise
such an item.) Each of these could conceivably be as
small in size as a cigarette lighter. Each terrorist has
pre-picked say, 20 targets, each reachable within a given
radius from his own location. Let's say that one of them
has his pre-arranged sites within Ontario. Another works
San Fernando. Another in Carson. Another in Long Beach.
And others in Sen Bernardino, Riverside, Covina, Norwalk,
Inglewood, Orange, Anaheim, Pasadena, Los Angeles,
Hollywood, Torrance, Simi Valley, Whittier, and Thousand
Oaks.
(2) This done, they simply watch the Weather Channel for
the first prediction of significant Santa Ana winds for
the L.A. Basin. (Santa Ana winds are hot, VERY dry,
dessicating winds that whip across the basin several
times a year, blowing westbound out of the Mojave
Desert. When the very WORST of southern California's
fires have taken place, historically, they have been
borne upon, and supported by, Santa Ana winds. The
extreme low humidity that prevails causes these fires,
in the process of being whipped and driven by winds
exceeding 50 mph, to get out of control VERY quickly.
(3) By simply "phone-tree" calls, or coded e-mails, the
leader of the cell gives everyone the "Go!" code, for
the next morning.
(4) The cell has a MAJOR advantage: Southern California
is extremely diverse, racially and ethnically. Thus, the
terrorists blend in VERY well, no matter where they go.
By pre-arrangement, in accordance with where the
targets are, they deploy themselves dressed in anything
from T-shirts & blue jeans to business suits, as
appropriate. Some carrying baseball ball, glove, and
bat, perhaps. (People would think NOTHING of a young
guy like that cutting across a grassy field on foot,
presumably on his way to join some friends in a game.
And they begin to innocuously plant their tiny
devices in wooded and brushy areas throughout their
areas. All set for the very SAME time. Which in this
scenario, is 3:00 p.m. -- a time when the winds are
typically the strongest. And for one OTHER reason.
(5) Zero hour comes. The terrorists are long gone. No
suicide even necessary for THIS mission. They've simply
gotten into their cars and left. There probably won't be
a trace left of whatever they've chose to leave behind,
and thus, no one may EVER figure out who they were.
In short -- wherever they went, they're still at large,
after this event, and still an organized unit.
Simultaneously, the devices -- perhaps 400 of them
in all, simply IGNITE the brush or grass they've been
deposited in. And the tinder LITERALLY explodes into
400 raging, wind-whipped wildfires -- ALL OVER the
entire Basin, from Radlands to Irvine... Santa Clarita to
Long Beach to Garden Grove.
Within 10 minutes, all the fires services of southern
California are totally overwhelmed by a job they can't
even BEGIN to cope with.
(6) 3:30 p.m. -- Hundreds of raging conflagrations are
spreading on Santa Ana winds, westbound, and they
begin to merge. By now, the enormous fires not only
are unstoppable, but have effectively BLOCKED the
the attempted exodus from the basis of almost ALL of
its totally-panicked 8 million people.
(7) 5:15 p.m. -- The entire basin is in firestorm. The
Santa Ana winds are of no conseqence at all by
this time, as the funeral pyre for 8 million people
is 2 miles high, and clearly visible in the waning
daylight, from Las Vegas. The wind is now howling
into the immense inferno, which itself would be
deafeningly-loud, but for the lack of any nearby
ears to hear it, from all directions, feeding oxygen
to the flames at an almost inconceivable 150-200
miles per hour. From the Space Shuttle, the
entire Los Angeles Basin appears as a very BRIGHT
bonfire, 60-70 miles in diameter.
(8) Up in Bakersfield, Fresno, Visalia, Modesto, and
Merced, the terrorists are in motel rooms hoisting
champagne, and watching it all on CNN. (And
they never even needed a nuclear device!)
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THIS scenario would be SO simple to pull off, that even the
half-baked, Keystone Kops terrorists who seem only to be able to
steer airplanes already in flight, and mail some anthrax through the
mail, could EASILY do it.
Bush hasn't done DIDDLY. He's just LUCKY that the terrorists
aren't REALLY serious.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!! |
06 Oct 2003 11:37:31 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
Simultaneously, the devices -- perhaps 400 of them
in all, simply IGNITE the brush or grass they've been
deposited in. And the tinder LITERALLY explodes into
400 raging, wind-whipped wildfires -- ALL OVER the
entire Basin, from Radlands to Irvine... Santa Clarita to
Long Beach to Garden Grove.
They would have to be some rather large explosions to create a wildfire
upon ignition, no?
Bush hasn't done DIDDLY. He's just LUCKY that the terrorists
aren't REALLY serious.
I tend to think that the terrorists have other, more pressing issues to
deal with at the moment, though I'm certain there are large plans in the
works.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!! |
06 Oct 2003 11:53:37 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:37:31 GMT,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
[ ... ]
Simultaneously, the devices -- perhaps 400 of them
in all, simply IGNITE the brush or grass they've been
deposited in. And the tinder LITERALLY explodes into
400 raging, wind-whipped wildfires -- ALL OVER the
entire Basin, from Radlands to Irvine... Santa Clarita to
Long Beach to Garden Grove.
They would have to be some rather large explosions to create a
wildfire upon ignition, no?
Not at all. A *match* could start an enormous fire in virtually NO
time, in a fierce Santa Ana Wind situation. Those are very hot and
dry, steadily-high winds, with high gusts, straight out of the Mojave
Desert. They render vegetation tinder-dry, if it isn't already (due to
Southern California's "Mediterranean" climate. (That climate type --
[enter "Koeppen" and "climate" into Google] is characterized by
wet winters and dry summers. Meaning that things get VERY dry,
in the summer heat.
Bush hasn't done DIDDLY. He's just LUCKY that the terrorists
aren't REALLY serious.
I tend to think that the terrorists have other, more pressing issues to
deal with at the moment, though I'm certain there are large plans in the
works.
I might be wrong, but for the last couple of years, since I considered
the EASE with which devastation could be wrought, via scenarios like
this, I'm of the opinion that the 19 who crashed the planes were Keystone
Kops who got lucky... and basically were an anomaly.
Just my opinion. I hope I'm right about that.
[[[ READERS -- To see the entire scenario, see my last post before
this one, in this thread. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!! |
07 Oct 2003 12:21:22 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:37:31 GMT,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
[ ... ]
Simultaneously, the devices -- perhaps 400 of them
in all, simply IGNITE the brush or grass they've been
deposited in. And the tinder LITERALLY explodes into
400 raging, wind-whipped wildfires -- ALL OVER the
entire Basin, from Radlands to Irvine... Santa Clarita to
Long Beach to Garden Grove.
They would have to be some rather large explosions to create a
wildfire upon ignition, no?
Not at all. A *match* could start an enormous fire in virtually NO
time, in a fierce Santa Ana Wind situation. Those are very hot and
dry, steadily-high winds, with high gusts, straight out of the Mojave
Desert. They render vegetation tinder-dry, if it isn't already (due to
Southern California's "Mediterranean" climate. (That climate type --
[enter "Koeppen" and "climate" into Google] is characterized by
wet winters and dry summers. Meaning that things get VERY dry,
in the summer heat.
Thanks for the info. I have no experience with the Santa Ana winds, so I
have no clue of their effect.
Bush hasn't done DIDDLY. He's just LUCKY that the terrorists
aren't REALLY serious.
I tend to think that the terrorists have other, more pressing issues to
deal with at the moment, though I'm certain there are large plans in the
works.
I might be wrong, but for the last couple of years, since I considered
the EASE with which devastation could be wrought, via scenarios like
this, I'm of the opinion that the 19 who crashed the planes were Keystone
Kops who got lucky... and basically were an anomaly.
Just my opinion. I hope I'm right about that.
So do I, but I personally believe otherwise. I think the terrorists of
9/11, from their perspective, got lucky with the results. Hitting the
buildings isn't that remarkable for them, they had successfully hijacked
many planes over the years. It's what they did with them on 9/11 that
multiplied the impact, much like it would in your scenario. While the
actual participants may have been Keystone Kops, the act was not an
anomaly, IMO.
[[[ READERS -- To see the entire scenario, see my last post before
this one, in this thread. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: October 6th,no Repeat of 911. Thank You President Bush!!! |
07 Oct 2003 01:09:55 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:21:22 GMT,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
[ ... ]
Simultaneously, the devices -- perhaps 400 of them
in all, simply IGNITE the brush or grass they've been
deposited in. And the tinder LITERALLY explodes into
400 raging, wind-whipped wildfires -- ALL OVER the
entire Basin, from Radlands to Irvine... Santa Clarita to
Long Beach to Garden Grove.
They would have to be some rather large explosions to create a
wildfire upon ignition, no?
Not at all. A *match* could start an enormous fire in virtually NO
time, in a fierce Santa Ana Wind situation. Those are very hot and
dry, steadily-high winds, with high gusts, straight out of the Mojave
Desert. They render vegetation tinder-dry, if it isn't already (due to
Southern California's "Mediterranean" climate. (That climate type --
[enter "Koeppen" and "climate" into Google] is characterized by
wet winters and dry summers. Meaning that things get VERY dry,
in the summer heat.
Thanks for the info. I have no experience with the Santa Ana winds,
so I have no clue of their effect.
No prob. I studied them as a meteorologist, and then later lived in
the Mojave Desert... followed a few years after that by San Bernardino...
which receives those winds with some frequency.
Bush hasn't done DIDDLY. He's just LUCKY that the terrorists
aren't REALLY serious.
I tend to think that the terrorists have other, more pressing issues to
deal with at the moment, though I'm certain there are large plans in the
works.
I might be wrong, but for the last couple of years, since I considered
the EASE with which devastation could be wrought, via scenarios like
this, I'm of the opinion that the 19 who crashed the planes were Keystone
Kops who got lucky... and basically were an anomaly.
Just my opinion. I hope I'm right about that.
So do I, but I personally believe otherwise. I think the terrorists of
9/11, from their perspective, got lucky with the results. Hitting the
buildings isn't that remarkable for them, they had successfully hijacked
many planes over the years. It's what they did with them on 9/11 that
multiplied the impact, much like it would in your scenario. While the
actual participants may have been Keystone Kops, the act was not an
anomaly, IMO.
The longer we go without a significant attack, the better our
chances may be. It shows a likely disinterest on the part of would-be
terrorists to pull of a TRULY horrific act. They COULD pull off an act
that would be FAR worse than 9/11... with comparatively little effort or
expense. As would be the case in the scenario above. But they don't
seem to want to.
[[[ READERS -- To see the entire scenario, see my second post
before this one, in this thread. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton
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