On 30 Aug 2003 06:54:02 -0700,
Trish <Discotrish@msn.com> wrote:
[some attribution deleted by Trish] wrote:
Wrong, but you know that deep down,
right? You're just spouting more of
that pro-liar rhetoric you anti-choice
people have so deeply engrained in
your minds. Abortion is not murder.
Period. Abortion is simply the ending
of an unwanted pregnancy.
Genocide is simply the attempted ending
of a group of people. Not defined as
murder by the people who practice it.
Genocide is defined as:
Main Entry: geno·cide
Pronunciation: 'je-n&-"sId
Function: noun
Date: 1944
: the deliberate and systematic destruction
of a racial, political, or cultural group
- geno·cid·al /"je-n&-'sI-d&l/ adjective
In your own words, please describe the
specific racial, political, or cultural
group being "deliberately and systematically
destroyed" by abortion.
Keep in mind that women of *all* races,
political backgrounds, and cultures
OBTAIN ABORTIONS, making it extremely
difficult to pinpoint a specific "racial,
political, or cultural group" that is being
"deliberately and systematically" destroyed.
If you say "fetuses", for example, that
is not a specific racial, political, or
cultural group. Fetuses in women who
obtain abortions are from all forms of
racial genetic makeup; and have no
political or cultural inclinations as
yet.
If you say "abortion is genocide", then
you will have to show how this purely
VOLUNTARY procedure is the "deliberate
and systematic destruction" of the
group in question. "Deliberate and
systematic" would mean FORCED abortions,
not *voluntary* abortions.
Yes, we all know about China. But
unfortunately, you can't use the example
because what we thought we knew about
China's Government turns out to be info
about China's People.
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http://tinyurl.com/l4nn
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'China's family planning effort remains
perhaps the most misunderstood, complex
and varied of all the policies China has
embraced in its race to become a modern
nation. On one hand, the campaign has
prompted intense criticism from the West.
Human rights advocates have denounced
forced abortions, destruction of homes,
coerced sterilizations and the killing
of female babies that were triggered in
part by strict population controls.'
'On the other, little mention has been
made of the fact that the policy has
been neglected more than it has been
carried out, that many exceptions have
been allowed and that, according to
Chen Shengli, a senior official at the
State Family Planning Commission, only
60 million of the 300 million children
under 14 today are from single-child
families. That means 80 percent of
China's children have brothers or
sisters, and many have both.'
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