| Topic: |
Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Papa Jack" |
| Date: |
06 Jul 2003 07:46:01 PM |
| Object: |
Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message > news:<PxtNa.40079$fG.23152@sccrnsc01>...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307020708.229fea38@posting.google.com...
====================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Again, 51% of the women surveyed said the government
should prohibit abortion or limit it to extreme cases, such
as rape, incest, or life-threatening complications.
====================================================================
MINXS wrote:
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
====================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white. The more
important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant. The proportion of women having
an abortion who had never been married
increased from 64% in 1994 to 67% in 2000."
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
Of course, MINXS is right about the focus of the
abortion industry on poor minority women. This
has been true since the days when:
"...Sanger was also greatly influenced by eugenics,
an offshoot of Malthus's theory which called
for an elitist white supremacy, to be created
by, in Sanger's words, "more children from the
fit, and less from the unfit."1 Sanger's
magazine, The Birth Control Review, published
articles with unabashedly racist messages,
including one by Ernst Rudin, who directed
Hitler's genetic sterilization program.2"
http://www.ieteen.org/people/people0100a.html
I think Sanger promoted "human weed control" or
some such nonsense.
.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 12:16:20 PM |
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"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UyXOa.19260$ye4.16887@sccrnsc01...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307061646.de3689@posting.google.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message >
news:<PxtNa.40079$fG.23152@sccrnsc01>...
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions are of a
minority
race or ethnicity: black (32 percent), Hispanic (20 percent),
Asian/Pacific
Islander (6 percent), or American Indian (1 percent). White people are
still the majority in this country, at least for the time being. The
majority of women having abortions are not white people.
The more
important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
"Hide their indiscretions?" First, who the ***** are you to determine what is
an indiscretion? When did it become YOUR business when others have sex, or
under what circumstances?
Second, Prove the "cause/effect" in your statement. If not, you're either
lying or being overly presumptuous.
Are you now a member of the sex police for women, too?
You certainly are a pompous *****.
-Donald
AA #2104
.
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| User: "Marie A." |
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 05:58:16 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<E5YOa.60430$hV.3713851@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UyXOa.19260$ye4.16887@sccrnsc01...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307061646.de3689@posting.google.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message >
news:<PxtNa.40079$fG.23152@sccrnsc01>...
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions are of a
minority
race or ethnicity: black (32 percent), Hispanic (20 percent),
Asian/Pacific
Islander (6 percent), or American Indian (1 percent). White people are
still the majority in this country, at least for the time being. The
majority of women having abortions are not white people.
The more
important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
"Hide their indiscretions?" First, who the ***** are you to determine what is
an indiscretion? When did it become YOUR business when others have sex, or
under what circumstances?
Second, Prove the "cause/effect" in your statement. If not, you're either
lying or being overly presumptuous.
Are you now a member of the sex police for women, too?
You certainly are a pompous *****.
-Donald
AA #2104
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest son-of-a-bitches I
have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donanl Schmuck, aka Jethro
Clampett. You're too stupid to have any inkling at all of just how
brain dead you are. Jesus, but you're dumb. Do you also do brain
surgery with that plastic nurse's kit you stole from your sister?
Still got that decoder ring?
Keep kicking this raving lunatic's *****, Papp Jack!
(Marie)
.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 08:02:44 PM |
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"Marie A." <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1dc521ed.0307091458.1adfa4a9@posting.google.com...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<E5YOa.60430$hV.3713851@twister.austin.rr.com>...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UyXOa.19260$ye4.16887@sccrnsc01...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307061646.de3689@posting.google.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message >
news:<PxtNa.40079$fG.23152@sccrnsc01>...
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions are of a
minority
race or ethnicity: black (32 percent), Hispanic (20 percent),
Asian/Pacific
Islander (6 percent), or American Indian (1 percent). White people
are
still the majority in this country, at least for the time being. The
majority of women having abortions are not white people.
The more
important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
"Hide their indiscretions?" First, who the ***** are you to determine
what is
an indiscretion? When did it become YOUR business when others have sex,
or
under what circumstances?
Second, Prove the "cause/effect" in your statement. If not, you're
either
lying or being overly presumptuous.
Are you now a member of the sex police for women, too?
You certainly are a pompous *****.
-Donald
AA #2104
Marie,
I read your post twice, looking for something worth the use of time. Alas, I
found nothing except your usual tripe. Nevertheless, back into the fray.....
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest son-of-a-bitches I
have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donanl Schmuck, aka Jethro
Clampett.
As I've told you before, I've been called worse than this by people I
respect. Forgive me if I don't suddenly feel the need for therapy.
And, to contradict anything you say, I have 34 firefighters in my department
that put their lives in my hands without question, without hesitation. They
will quickly let you know that you are full of *****.
Professionally, I have my name on HDPE plastic plants in Houston, Hendersen
NV, Taipei, Bangkok, and Quebec. I have designed potable water systems and
oiltool equipment that is currently on about a dozen offshore drilling rigs,
played a huge part in a chip-fab and central utilities building expansion
for VLSI in San Antonio, and designed two production facilities for Dell
Computer, one of those from the ground, up.
Where I come from, that is not how dumb people conduct themselves.
What we've witnessed from you on these newsgroups, though, indicates you
cannot make a coherent argument, let alone actually ACCOMPLISH anything of
note. You may surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Ultimately, you've decided to call me dumb because I will not subscribe to
your position of control freak and sex police. In that case, I'll accept the
compliment.
You're too stupid to have any inkling at all of just how
brain dead you are.
Just because you lose arguments and can't prove anything you say doesn't
give you a reason to get snotty and spiteful. Try telling the truth and
backing up your claims, and then maybe, just MAYBE, you'll write something
worth reading.
Thus far, I've been underwhelmed by your posts.
Jesus, but you're dumb.
Hardly.
But remarks like this coming from you are not surprising. It shows that you
have lost debate after debate on these NG's from anyone you've gone up
against. It also is indicative of your inferiority complex.
Do you also do brain
surgery with that plastic nurse's kit you stole from your sister?
No. But I am an EMT. I have a medic bag equipped in accordance with AFD
standards and the level of training that is required under Travis County
SOC's.
I've extricated two teen-aged kids from a car that was wrapped around a
telephone pole; spent three hours with a patient and finally convinced her
that she desperately needed to go to the hospital because she was suffering
the afteraffects of a stroke; fought more grass and structure fires than I
can count; helped lift a bedridden woman from her bed, built her a new one
and then put her in it since her elderly husband was unable to; and I have
"field-delivered" a baby on the floor of the bathroom at a woman's house
(1:08 am, May 1, 2003). I got a stork pin for that one and my name is on her
birth certificate. These are just a few of the high points of the past
six-months.
So tell us, O' Classless Cockroach, what do YOU do for your community
besides trying to force your fucked up point of view on everyone?
Still got that decoder ring?
Never had one. The only jewelry I wear is my wedding ring. On the other
hand, maybe you should consider buying a decoder ring since you obviously
can't buy a clue.
Keep kicking this raving lunatic's *****, Papp Jack!
Raving? No. Annoyed that stupid tarts like you have infested this newsgroups
and won't take the hint to go away? Most certainly.
PapaJack can't beat his own meat, let alone kick my *****, especially not in
an intellectual discussion (he is unarmed). Instead of responding to points
made by his adversary, he whines about the use of profanity while throwing
out random nonsense, bogus statistics, distorted urban legends,
unsubstantiated claims, inflammatory names, irrelevant fictitious data, and
non-sequitur statements only geared toward an emotional plea with no
foundation in fact or reality.
Just like you do....when you're not straining your nine-volt brain in a
futile attempt to try and insult me.
Odd how you provoke someone else to get into an argument for you. "Hey
*****! Let's you and him fight."
What's wrong? Can't play with the big kids? Or is it that your *****
rantings have been shown to be just that...*****.
(Marie)
.....The Cockroach.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Firefighter/EMT
Manchaca Unit 536.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 08:34:52 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:02:44 GMT,
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
Marie A. <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote:
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote:
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions are of a
minority race or ethnicity: black (32 percent), Hispanic (20 percent),
Asian/Pacific Islander (6 percent), or American Indian (1 percent).
White people are still the majority in this country, at least for the
time being. The majority of women having abortions are not white
people.
The more important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
"Hide their indiscretions?" First, who the ***** are you to determine
what is an indiscretion? When did it become YOUR business when
others have sex, or under what circumstances?
Second, Prove the "cause/effect" in your statement. If not, you're
either lying or being overly presumptuous.
Are you now a member of the sex police for women, too?
You certainly are a pompous *****.
-Donald
AA #2104
Marie,
I read your post twice, looking for something worth the use of time.
Alas, I found nothing except your usual tripe. Nevertheless, back into
the fray.....
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest son-of-a-bitches I
have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donanl Schmuck, aka Jethro
Clampett.
As I've told you before, I've been called worse than this by people I
respect. Forgive me if I don't suddenly feel the need for therapy.
And, to contradict anything you say, I have 34 firefighters in my department
that put their lives in my hands without question, without hesitation. They
will quickly let you know that you are full of *****.
Professionally, I have my name on HDPE plastic plants in Houston, Hendersen
NV, Taipei, Bangkok, and Quebec. I have designed potable water systems
and oiltool equipment that is currently on about a dozen offshore drilling rigs,
played a huge part in a chip-fab and central utilities building expansion
for VLSI in San Antonio, and designed two production facilities for Dell
Computer, one of those from the ground, up.
Where I come from, that is not how dumb people conduct themselves.
What we've witnessed from you on these newsgroups, though, indicates
you cannot make a coherent argument, let alone actually ACCOMPLISH
anything of note. You may surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Ultimately, you've decided to call me dumb because I will not subscribe to
your position of control freak and sex police. In that case, I'll accept the
compliment.
You're too stupid to have any inkling at all of just how
brain dead you are.
Just because you lose arguments and can't prove anything you say doesn't
give you a reason to get snotty and spiteful. Try telling the truth and backing
up your claims, and then maybe, just MAYBE, you'll write something worth
reading.
Thus far, I've been underwhelmed by your posts.
Jesus, but you're dumb.
Hardly.
But remarks like this coming from you are not surprising. It shows that you
have lost debate after debate on these NG's from anyone you've gone up
against. It also is indicative of your inferiority complex.
Do you also do brain surgery with that plastic nurse's kit you stole
from your sister?
No. But I am an EMT. I have a medic bag equipped in accordance with
AFD standards and the level of training that is required under Travis County
SOC's.
I've extricated two teen-aged kids from a car that was wrapped around a
telephone pole; spent three hours with a patient and finally convinced her
that she desperately needed to go to the hospital because she was suffering
the afteraffects of a stroke; fought more grass and structure fires than I
can count; helped lift a bedridden woman from her bed, built her a new one
and then put her in it since her elderly husband was unable to; and I have
"field-delivered" a baby on the floor of the bathroom at a woman's house
(1:08 am, May 1, 2003). I got a stork pin for that one and my name is on her
birth certificate. These are just a few of the high points of the past
six-months.
So tell us, O' Classless Cockroach, what do YOU do for your community
besides trying to force your fucked up point of view on everyone?
Still got that decoder ring?
Never had one. The only jewelry I wear is my wedding ring. On the other
hand, maybe you should consider buying a decoder ring since you obviously
can't buy a clue.
Keep kicking this raving lunatic's *****, Papp Jack!
Raving? No. Annoyed that stupid tarts like you have infested these
newsgroups and won't take the hint to go away? Most certainly.
PapaJack can't beat his own meat, let alone kick my *****, especially not
in an intellectual discussion (he is unarmed). Instead of responding to points
made by his adversary, he whines about the use of profanity while throwing
out random nonsense, bogus statistics, distorted urban legends,
unsubstantiated claims, inflammatory names, irrelevant fictitious data, and
non-sequitur statements only geared toward an emotional plea with no
foundation in fact or reality.
Just like you do....when you're not straining your nine-volt brain in a
futile attempt to try and insult me.
Odd how you provoke someone else to get into an argument for you. "Hey
*****! Let's you and him fight."
What's wrong? Can't play with the big kids? Or is it that your *****
rantings have been shown to be just that...*****.
(Marie)
....The Cockroach.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Firefighter/EMT
Manchaca Unit 536.
WOW!!! Never have I seen a BETTER putdown of a cluless loon!
It'll be fascinating to see what she says in her "defense." My guess
is that she will prover herself to be even MORE cowardly by slinking away
and ignoring you. (EITHER of those will be even more revealing of her
obvious ignorance.)
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 08:37:55 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <> wrote in message
news:3f0dbedd.1980691@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:02:44 GMT,
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
Marie A. <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote:
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote:
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions are of
a
minority race or ethnicity: black (32 percent), Hispanic (20
percent),
Asian/Pacific Islander (6 percent), or American Indian (1 percent).
White people are still the majority in this country, at least for the
time being. The majority of women having abortions are not white
people.
The more important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
"Hide their indiscretions?" First, who the ***** are you to determine
what is an indiscretion? When did it become YOUR business when
others have sex, or under what circumstances?
Second, Prove the "cause/effect" in your statement. If not, you're
either lying or being overly presumptuous.
Are you now a member of the sex police for women, too?
You certainly are a pompous *****.
-Donald
AA #2104
Marie,
I read your post twice, looking for something worth the use of time.
Alas, I found nothing except your usual tripe. Nevertheless, back into
the fray.....
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest
son-of-a-bitches I
have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donanl Schmuck, aka Jethro
Clampett.
As I've told you before, I've been called worse than this by people
I
respect. Forgive me if I don't suddenly feel the need for therapy.
And, to contradict anything you say, I have 34 firefighters in my
department
that put their lives in my hands without question, without hesitation.
They
will quickly let you know that you are full of *****.
Professionally, I have my name on HDPE plastic plants in Houston,
Hendersen
NV, Taipei, Bangkok, and Quebec. I have designed potable water systems
and oiltool equipment that is currently on about a dozen offshore
drilling rigs,
played a huge part in a chip-fab and central utilities building
expansion
for VLSI in San Antonio, and designed two production facilities for Dell
Computer, one of those from the ground, up.
Where I come from, that is not how dumb people conduct themselves.
What we've witnessed from you on these newsgroups, though, indicates
you cannot make a coherent argument, let alone actually ACCOMPLISH
anything of note. You may surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Ultimately, you've decided to call me dumb because I will not
subscribe to
your position of control freak and sex police. In that case, I'll accept
the
compliment.
You're too stupid to have any inkling at all of just how
brain dead you are.
Just because you lose arguments and can't prove anything you say
doesn't
give you a reason to get snotty and spiteful. Try telling the truth and
backing
up your claims, and then maybe, just MAYBE, you'll write something worth
reading.
Thus far, I've been underwhelmed by your posts.
Jesus, but you're dumb.
Hardly.
But remarks like this coming from you are not surprising. It shows
that you
have lost debate after debate on these NG's from anyone you've gone up
against. It also is indicative of your inferiority complex.
Do you also do brain surgery with that plastic nurse's kit you
stole
from your sister?
No. But I am an EMT. I have a medic bag equipped in accordance with
AFD standards and the level of training that is required under Travis
County
SOC's.
I've extricated two teen-aged kids from a car that was wrapped
around a
telephone pole; spent three hours with a patient and finally convinced
her
that she desperately needed to go to the hospital because she was
suffering
the afteraffects of a stroke; fought more grass and structure fires than
I
can count; helped lift a bedridden woman from her bed, built her a new
one
and then put her in it since her elderly husband was unable to; and I
have
"field-delivered" a baby on the floor of the bathroom at a woman's house
(1:08 am, May 1, 2003). I got a stork pin for that one and my name is on
her
birth certificate. These are just a few of the high points of the past
six-months.
So tell us, O' Classless Cockroach, what do YOU do for your community
besides trying to force your fucked up point of view on everyone?
Still got that decoder ring?
Never had one. The only jewelry I wear is my wedding ring. On the
other
hand, maybe you should consider buying a decoder ring since you
obviously
can't buy a clue.
Keep kicking this raving lunatic's *****, Papp Jack!
Raving? No. Annoyed that stupid tarts like you have infested these
newsgroups and won't take the hint to go away? Most certainly.
PapaJack can't beat his own meat, let alone kick my *****, especially
not
in an intellectual discussion (he is unarmed). Instead of responding to
points
made by his adversary, he whines about the use of profanity while
throwing
out random nonsense, bogus statistics, distorted urban legends,
unsubstantiated claims, inflammatory names, irrelevant fictitious data,
and
non-sequitur statements only geared toward an emotional plea with no
foundation in fact or reality.
Just like you do....when you're not straining your nine-volt brain in
a
futile attempt to try and insult me.
Odd how you provoke someone else to get into an argument for you.
"Hey
*****! Let's you and him fight."
What's wrong? Can't play with the big kids? Or is it that your
*****
rantings have been shown to be just that...*****.
(Marie)
....The Cockroach.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Firefighter/EMT
Manchaca Unit 536.
WOW!!! Never have I seen a BETTER putdown of a cluless loon!
It'll be fascinating to see what she says in her "defense." My guess
is that she will prover herself to be even MORE cowardly by slinking away
and ignoring you.
That's why I call her Cockroach. Turn on the lights of truth, fact and
reality, and she scurries off to another NG thread.
Too predictable. But now that I've said this, she'll come back for more...
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
(EITHER of those will be even more revealing of her
obvious ignorance.)
-- Craig Chilton
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09 Jul 2003 10:12:34 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <> wrote in message
news:3f0ec93d.4636959@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:37:55 GMT,
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahoo.com> wrote:
Marie A. <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Marie,
I read your post twice, looking for something worth the use of
time.
Alas, I found nothing except your usual tripe. Nevertheless, back into
the fray.....
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest
son-of-a-bitches I have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donald
Schmuck, aka Jethro Clampett.
As I've told you before, I've been called worse than this by
people
I respect. Forgive me if I don't suddenly feel the need for therapy.
And, to contradict anything you say, I have 34 firefighters in my
department that put their lives in my hands without question, without
hesitation. They will quickly let you know that you are full of *****.
Professionally, I have my name on HDPE plastic plants in Houston,
Hendersen NV, Taipei, Bangkok, and Quebec. I have designed
potable water systems and oiltool equipment that is currently on about
a dozen offshore drilling rigs, played a huge part in a chip-fab and
central utilities building expansion for VLSI in San Antonio, and
designed two production facilities for Dell Computer, one of those
from
the ground, up.
Where I come from, that is not how dumb people conduct themselves.
What we've witnessed from you on these newsgroups, though,
indicates
you cannot make a coherent argument, let alone actually ACCOMPLISH
anything of note. You may surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Ultimately, you've decided to call me dumb because I will not
subscribe to your position of control freak and sex police. In that
case,
I'll accept the compliment.
You're too stupid to have any inkling at all of just how
brain dead you are.
Just because you lose arguments and can't prove anything you say
doesn't give you a reason to get snotty and spiteful. Try telling the
truth
and backing up your claims, and then maybe, just MAYBE, you'll write
something worth reading.
Thus far, I've been underwhelmed by your posts.
Jesus, but you're dumb.
Hardly.
But remarks like this coming from you are not surprising. It shows
that you have lost debate after debate on these NG's from anyone
you've gone up against. It also is indicative of your inferiority
complex.
Do you also do brain surgery with that plastic nurse's kit you
stole from your sister?
No. But I am an EMT. I have a medic bag equipped in accordance with
AFD standards and the level of training that is required under Travis
County SOC's.
I've extricated two teen-aged kids from a car that was wrapped
around a telephone pole; spent three hours with a patient and finally
convinced her that she desperately needed to go to the hospital
because she was suffering the afteraffects of a stroke; fought more
grass and structure fires than I can count; helped lift a bedridden
woman
from her bed, built her a new one and then put her in it since her
elderly husband was unable to; and I have "field-delivered" a baby
on the floor of the bathroom at a woman's house (1:08 am, May 1,
2003). I got a stork pin for that one and my name is on her birth
certificate. These are just a few of the high points of the past six
months.
So tell us, O' Classless Cockroach, what do YOU do for your
community
besides trying to force your fucked up point of view on everyone?
Still got that decoder ring?
Never had one. The only jewelry I wear is my wedding ring. On the
other hand, maybe you should consider buying a decoder ring since you
obviously can't buy a clue.
Keep kicking this raving lunatic's *****, Papp Jack!
Raving? No. Annoyed that stupid tarts like you have infested these
newsgroups and won't take the hint to go away? Most certainly.
PapaJack can't beat his own meat, let alone kick my *****,
especially
not in an intellectual discussion (he is unarmed). Instead of
responding to
points made by his adversary, he whines about the use of profanity
while
throwing out random nonsense, bogus statistics, distorted urban
legends,
unsubstantiated claims, inflammatory names, irrelevant fictitious
data,
and non-sequitur statements only geared toward an emotional plea with
no foundation in fact or reality.
Just like you do....when you're not straining your nine-volt brain
in a
futile attempt to try and insult me.
Odd how you provoke someone else to get into an argument for you.
"Hey *****! Let's you and him fight."
What's wrong? Can't play with the big kids? Or is it that your
***** rantings have been shown to be just that...*****.
(Marie)
....The Cockroach.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Firefighter/EMT
Manchaca Unit 536.
WOW!!! Never have I seen a BETTER putdown of a cluless loon!
It'll be fascinating to see what she says in her "defense." My
guess
is that she will prove herself to be even MORE cowardly by slinking
away and ignoring you.
That's why I call her Cockroach. Turn on the lights of truth, fact
and reality, and she scurries off to another NG thread.
Too predictable. But now that I've said this, she'll come back
for more...
And the truly sad thing, for her, is that she is SO dumb, she doesn't
ever realize that ALL she accomplishes with her posts is to enable
everyone to see for themselves to bone-ignorance, hatefulness, and
bigotry of her, hr ilk, and their agendas. Thus actually ASSISTING
egalitarians to escort those agendas to extinction, where they belong.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
(EITHER of those will be even more revealing of her
obvious ignorance.)
-- Craig Chilton
Between her, *****-spree, Omphallic, PapaJackOff and Sneerches I've learned to
never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
What will really chap her ***** with regard to the "dumb" insults and my
response is this: With the exception of the gig at Dell Computer and the
medical calls I described, everything I listed was accomplished before I was
30. I'd also had my first heart attack by then, but that was stress related.
I'm only 35 now. "Yound enough to know how to still have fun, old enough to
know to bring bail money."
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 10:56:39 PM |
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Marie A. <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote:
And you certainly are just about one of the dumbest son-of-a-bitches I
have ever seen post in any Newsgroup, Donanl Schmuck, aka Jethro
Clampett.
Don't be so modest. You're easily dumber, and some of your fellow
fanatics are dumber still.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Poll Shows 51% of Women Are Pro-Lifers |
09 Jul 2003 06:43:23 PM |
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"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message > news:<UyXOa.19260$ye4.16887@sccrnsc01>...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307061646.de3689@posting.google.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote:
=====================================================================
MINXS wrote:
That's not at all surprising given that the majority of
women who are having abortions now are (1) poor, (2)
minority race, (3) unmarried, (4) young mothers. In
other words, women who have abortions are now in the
minority in more ways than one - and not likeably so.
When it's not you or your friends or relatives having
abortions, when it's only "those people", who cares
whether it's illegal and unsafe? Apparently a sub-
stantial percentage of American women are incapable
of empathy and simply do not care about women and
children who are darker and poorer and less socially
acceptable than themselves and their loved ones.
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Papa Jack wrote:
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white.
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MINXS wrote:
Right. As I said, the majority of women having abortions
are of a minority race or ethnicity: black (32 percent),
Hispanic (20 percent), Asian/Pacific Islander (6 percent),
or American Indian (1 percent). White people are still
the majority in this country, at least for the time being.
The majority of women having abortions are not white people.
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Papa Jack wrote:
The more important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
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MINXS wrote:
LOL. That's pretty funny given that most of them already
have children, as I also noted. Plus, about a third are
living with their partners, but not all of those women
have kids already.
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Papa Jack replied:
According to AGI:
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
"The proportion of women having an abortion who had
never been married increased from 64% in 1994 to 67%
in 2000
• Marital status.
= Two-thirds of women having abortions in 2000
had never been married,
= one in six were currently married
= and another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant.
OTOH, 92% of married women carry their pregnancies
to term.
IOW, there is a strong correlation between abortion
and marital status. Women who are married find
far fewer reasons to kill their unborn children.
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MINXS wrote:
These women aren't trying to hide anything. They simply
can't add a(nother) child to their lives at the moment.
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Papa Jack replied:
AGI tells us:
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
• On average, women give at least 3 reasons
for choosing abortion:
= 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere
with work, school or other responsibilities;
= about 2/3 say they cannot afford a child;
= and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single
parent or are having problems with their
husband or partner.
IOW, a child wouldn't be "convenient" at this time. Not
very impressive reasons for homicide.
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06 Jul 2003 10:19:20 PM |
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Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
Consistently we see the anti-abortion zealot motivated by the need
to make sure that sexuality in women is controlled and punished.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Papa Jack" |
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08 Jul 2003 01:23:13 PM |
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rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message > news:<beaorn$ak1$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Papa Jack <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
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Papa Jack wrote:
Actually, 41% were non-Hispanic white. The more
important statistic is:
"...two-thirds of women having abortions
in 2000 had never been married. Only
one in six were currently married and
another one in six were separated,
divorced or widowed when they became
pregnant. The proportion of women having
an abortion who had never been married
increased from 64% in 1994 to 67% in 2000."
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Consistently we see the anti-abortion zealot motivated
by the need to make sure that sexuality in women is
controlled and punished.
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Papa Jack replied:
Consistently we see Ray Fisher movitated by his need
to make sure all women are encouraged to express their
sexuality in totally uncontrolled and reckless ways.
Ray would pass laws to give major financial rewards to
little girls and women who have two or more abortions.
No stack of butchered bodies of unborn children is
ever high enough for Ray. His blood lust competes
with that of MINXS.
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Papa Jack wrote:
Of course, MINXS is right about the focus of the
abortion industry on poor minority women. This
has been true since the days when:
"...Sanger was also greatly influenced by eugenics,
an offshoot of Malthus's theory which called
for an elitist white supremacy, to be created
by, in Sanger's words, "more children from the
fit, and less from the unfit."1 Sanger's
magazine, The Birth Control Review, published
articles with unabashedly racist messages,
including one by Ernst Rudin, who directed
Hitler's genetic sterilization program.2"
http://www.ieteen.org/people/people0100a.html
I think Sanger promoted "human weed control" or
some such nonsense.
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09 Jul 2003 01:44:49 AM |
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Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Thus, we see abortion remains primarily a way for
single women to hide their indiscretions.
Consistently we see the anti-abortion zealot motivated
by the need to make sure that sexuality in women is
controlled and punished.
Consistently we see Ray Fisher movitated by his need
to make sure all women are encouraged to express their
sexuality in totally uncontrolled and reckless ways.
LOL! Jackass canot help but to lie. Cann cannot argue
against what I write and has to attack strawmen instead.
Ray would pass laws to give major financial rewards to
little girls and women who have two or more abortions.
Jackass, you're a liar.
And I'll remind everybody that you have justified the murder
of innocent children, and are one of just two people to have
done so.
No stack of butchered bodies of unborn children is
ever high enough for Ray. His blood lust competes
with that of MINXS.
See the evil and hatred that comes from the anti-abortion fanatic
when his anti-woman agenda is exposed. The only way he can justify
his utterly immoral ideology is to make other people worse by
inventing outrageous claims.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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