Sharon B wrote:

On 9 Nov 2005 05:33:27 GMT, Andre Lieven wrote:

My point, since you still MS it, is that if we say that it's wrong to
force WOMEN to become parents, ITS JUST AS WRONG to FORCE MEN to become
parents.

Your point is atop your noggin as usual, Addlepated Andre, because
once again you have it azz backwards. Forced parenting *was* the law
of the land for both sexes *before* Roe v Wade, not after.
http://www.vasectomy-information.com/moreinfo/history.htm

Andre and John Wentzky need to have a chat.

Roe v Wade is not/never was to address the issue of forcing/not
forcing women to become parents--that was just the case that brought
it to the attention of the Supreme Court--what the ruling dealt with
was the broader issue of self determination: who (government/third
party or individual) has right of final say over someone's body?

*Men* have the "right" to dominate everyone, of course! <spit>

That this right is used by women re abortion is neither here nor there
having diddly squat to do with your pet kook theory of empowering
women to force parenthood on men; this right of self determination is
also used by those who wish/don't wish other surgical procedures,
medical treatments--to bring it back to your favorite subject, a MAN
can get a vasectomy without first obtaining his wife's permission--not
the case in the past, a MAN convicted of a crime need not submit to a
vasectomy forced on him by the prison system--not even when he's a
convicted dead beat dad of 12 by 11 different women.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/654274/posts

Oh, the freepers! Andre's more than likely a member...

I think the court erred in not including suicide, working under the
assumption that anyone who would choose to do that is presumed
mentally ill--which is not always the case.

True, the terminally ill have plenty of good reasons to commit suicide.

Fortunately for you, idiots can no longer be sterilized against their
will.