On 10/31/03 9:27 AM, in article
279983a8.0310310627.5ec0ea6a@posting.google.com, "david" <gringo98@aol.com>
wrote:

What is the kryponite to the pro-choice community?

That's right- questions are the kryptonite to pro-choicers - ask them
to actually prove or provide logical reasons for their positions and
what do they do? They attack you and then simply reassert their
unproven position. They erect strawmen and use ad hominem attacks
instead of actually proving their position.

For example -

Many PCs argue that the unborn aren't human beings - they say that
they are potential human beings. If you ask them to provide some kind
of scientific evidence or logic to back themselves up - they provide
nothing but more rhetoric.

I disagree completely. My experience of pro-life is the inability to reason
and make cogent arguments.

Other PCs will admit that the unborn are human beings but say that the
unborn aren't persons. If you ask them what's the difference between
human beings and human persons and why should I accept your criteria
over the criteria of a racist or sexist - they again provide no
principle reason as to why anyone should accept their arbitrary
criteria.

Pro-life thinking is governed by exception. For example, prolife has little
difficulty understanding until a medical clerk finishes the process of
becoming a doctor that they are a NOT doctor. They are potential doctors.
They seem to understand the dynamic and phenomenon, however, throw in sperm,
or ova and then they feign stupidity.

Pro-choicers say they aren't pro-abortion but that they are
pro-choice. If you ask them "What's the problem with being
pro-abortion?" "What's so wrong with abortion that you don't want to
be in favor of it?" If abortion doesn't end the life of an innocent
human being then why aren't you in favor of it. Numerous other groups
that lobby for the making or keeping something legal aren't afraid to
say what they are in favor of - pro-marijuana group, pro-gambling
groups, pro-gun groups. None of them have a problem with the thing
they want to be legal yet pro-choicers hate being called pro-abortion.
Why is that?

I would like just one pro-choicer to honestly provide evidence to show
that the unborn aren't human beings or provide some kind of principal
reason as to why it should be legal to kill some human beings (the
unborn) but not other human beings.

Pro-choice ideology is nothing more than discrimination based on size,
environment, level of development, and degree of dependency.