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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Michael Calwell"
Date: 04 Jan 2005 12:07:51 PM
Object: Re: Reasons to keep fighting
Christopher Benson-Manica wrote:

The other Donald <the_donald_13@yeehaw2.com> spoke thus:


Excuse me? Michael Calwell, Cap'n Sockpuppet himself?



Be that as it may...


Surely you jest....



...his posts at least reflect a desire to participate in discussion
at a level somewhat above playground taunts, which is more than I can
say about, to take an example, Ray Fischer.

The point I am trying to make Christopher is that the talking is over.
This is a very silly place, the primary purpose of which is as a cave in
which the pro-abortionists can hear their own voices echoed back at them.
From here on in, the game is up for abortion. Yes, there are powerful
interest groups who have lots to lose when the unborn child is given
their rights, of course abortion is a fundamental tenet of radical
marxist feminism. But the latter is dead on its feet, and the former are
not invincible.
You might as well argue about slavery or the legal equality of women.
There is only ONE direction in which people of good faith will go, and
that is in the defence of the unborn child, Yes, it is possible that the
majority of people currently support abortion, but as education about
the unborn child and the principle of the right to life becomes more
widely understood, the pro-abortionists generally become pro-lifes, and
so the progress of humanity proceeds.
All the things that have supported the pro-abortion position so-far -
marxism, propaganda, ignorance and lack of education are being eroded.
That can only mean one thing. And simultaneously, those that support
abortion are being exposed for what they really believe. Anti-thiesm,
anti-family, anti-personal responsibility, pro-promiscuity,
anti-morality, pro-euthanasia, anti-principles. anti-democracy.
It's all over bar the fighting, and it's only a matter of time before
legalized abortion is relegated to a very, very ugly footnote of
history. It won't happen tomorrow, and not soon enough, but eventually.
.

User: "Christopher Benson-Manica"

Title: Re: Reasons to keep fighting 04 Jan 2005 12:28:33 PM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> spoke thus:

The point I am trying to make Christopher is that the talking is over.
This is a very silly place, the primary purpose of which is as a cave in
which the pro-abortionists can hear their own voices echoed back at them.

I disagree - there is no shortage of people on either side of the
issue.

majority of people currently support abortion, but as education about
the unborn child and the principle of the right to life becomes more
widely understood, the pro-abortionists generally become pro-lifes, and
so the progress of humanity proceeds.

It is not a one-way street, however, as demonstrated by the collapse
of the de facto religious standards that dominated society for
hundreds of years. Your side is winning, but final victory is not
assured.

That can only mean one thing. And simultaneously, those that support
abortion are being exposed for what they really believe. Anti-thiesm,
anti-family, anti-personal responsibility, pro-promiscuity,
anti-morality, pro-euthanasia, anti-principles. anti-democracy.

I support morality; however, I am convinced that *your* idea of
morality is wrong.
--
Christopher Benson-Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
ataru(at)cyberspace.org | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.
.
User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Reasons to keep fighting 04 Jan 2005 04:35:04 PM
"Christopher Benson-Manica" <ataru@nospam.cyberspace.org> wrote in message
news:cren8h$2il$1@chessie.cirr.com...

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> spoke thus:

The point I am trying to make Christopher is that the talking is over.
This is a very silly place, the primary purpose of which is as a cave in
which the pro-abortionists can hear their own voices echoed back at

them.
Except that there's no "pro-abortionists" here, making your words an
outright lie.


I disagree - there is no shortage of people on either side of the
issue.

majority of people currently support abortion, but as education about
the unborn child and the principle of the right to life becomes more
widely understood, the pro-abortionists generally become pro-lifes, and
so the progress of humanity proceeds.


It is not a one-way street, however, as demonstrated by the collapse
of the de facto religious standards that dominated society for
hundreds of years. Your side is winning, but final victory is not
assured.

That can only mean one thing. And simultaneously, those that support
abortion are being exposed for what they really believe. Anti-thiesm,
anti-family, anti-personal responsibility, pro-promiscuity,
anti-morality, pro-euthanasia, anti-principles. anti-democracy.

One lie after another, Karengrl. And you wonder why I killfiled you.
For Christopher: Please keep in mind that these lies do not constitute any
sort of a...what were your words: "...his posts at least reflect a desire to
participate in discussion at a level somewhat above playground taunts..."
His remarks of anti-theism, anti-family, ad nauseum, are the epitome of
'schoolyard taunts.' They are outright lies, formulated by the mind of a
simpleton that refuses to read what is put in front of him, preferring to:
1.) ...posit his own distortions as some sort of fact, even when we've
explicitly stated our varying positions and views on the matter;
2.) ...use false, self-created caricatures of his opponent;
3.) ...overtly lie which, by default, negates his argument;
4.) ...beat up strawman rather than directly answer points made;
5.) ...and backing up his claims with verifiable sources.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
.



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