JEHOVAH'S WITNESS APOLOGIST "mcldanl" <lummy3744nojunk@charter.net>
wrote...
Jabriol is a baptized member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. He is "in good
standing". His name is Senor Antonio Santana. This is verified.
CHARLES WROTE: Who verified this? Would Jabriol scan a picture of his card
saying he is a Jehovah's Witness. He should have no problem doing that if
he is in good stanbding, or a scan of his blood refusal card?
The proof is in several parts.
Firstly, look at the record, going back 7 years.
Click on each of:
http://google.com/groups?selm=19960528184736.aaaa004Ts@babyblue.cs.yale.edu
http://google.com/groups?selm=19990607182519.27198.00001813@ng-fn1.aol.com
http://google.com/groups?selm=6uagis%24689%40chronicle.concentric.net
http://google.com/groups?selm=70kdje%24ncr%40chronicle.concentric.net
http://google.com/groups?selm=73ul8d$8sm@chronicle.concentric.net
http://google.com/groups?selm=721ihp$mfs@journal.concentric.net
http://google.com/groups?selm=928697419.540.40@news.remarQ.com
http://google.com/groups?selm=7kte5m$h4l$1@talia.mad.ttd.net
http://google.com/groups?selm=37aa0900.0%40208.152.77.250
{etc. etc.}
So his ID (Tony L. Santana) and address (3072 S. Constitution Rd Camden NJ)
are verified and confirmed, as is his phone number. All listed online.
His fellow JW Richmac (posting handle) has written to him and received a
reply. Use the Google archive and find it:
Author: Richmac
with all of the words: (Santana OR Jabriol)
Secondly, in 1999 I contacted by telephone the Presiding Overseer of the
South Camden Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, at the Kingdom Hall at
417 Walnut Street, Camden, NJ 08104 (of course we have the phone number -
but the number is also listed online) and when I asked to speak to Mr Tony
Santana I was told that Mr Santana was involved in a meeting that was going
on at that minute, but if I called again in 45 minutes he would be
available.
Thirdly - recently, I re-verified his membership with the Service
Department at Bethel N.Y. While this was pretty easy for me, all you need
to do is phone them up (the number is in the book, look under Watchtower
B&T in Columbia Heights in Brooklyn, you do the work) and say you are an
attorney wishing to track a Mr Antonio Santana as he is a beneficiary of a
will, where he received a bequest. Before they respond, say that you
understand why they cannot give any details about him, but will they just
check that they DO have his details, so they can then pass on your (fake)
contact number to Mr Santana. They'll do this while you wait. If asked
which congo, say the only details you have relate to "South Camden".
You could judge all jWs by Jabriol
CHARLES WROTE: I hope all JW are not like him because I know they aren't
You judge by appearances only, then, and are a very gullible and stupid
judge (you were the idiot who reported that *I* was Jabriol - remember?
Hahaha!).
Jabriol simply represents what most JWs choose to keep hidden.
Is it strange that mental disorders and delusions result if one genuinely
believes that EVERYONE you know who is not a JW (therefore almost certainly
including some or many you love) are going to be brutally killed very
shortly by "loving Jehovah God", and that one must show gratefulness and
joy at the slaughter of 6.1 billion people, 99.9% of humanity?
CHARLES WROTE: Jabriol isn't an elder so he has no business or right to
give theocratic counsel!
Jabriol *IS* an elder.
If he represents what all JW are like( according to your posts) then the
society must be in big trouble.
And it is.
Jabriol is simply honest, and repeats the logical consequences of
Watchtower teachings.
Jabriol does not represent the views of most JW,
He represents the hidden views of a majority of them. Why else is he
permitted to continue so publicly without being excommunicated?
he does not show any fruits of the spirit either.
FRUITAGE of the spirit, Charles, not "fruits". Your theocratese needs
a'polishing. :)
And most JWs don't show fruitage of the spirit either.
ALL JWs are inevitable either gullible dupes (possibly tricked and
indoctrinated at a time they were grieving, vulnerable etc., or brought up
in "Da Troooth"), wolves, or those who have seen through it but dare not
leave for fear of LIFETIME SHUNNING BY ONE'S LOVED ONES.
Now, "mcldanl" <lummy3744nojunk@charter.net>, let us look at YOU. Here are
the message headers from your post to which I am responding, i.e.
http://google.com/groups?selm=vjne51j875an5f@corp.supernews.com
Path: .. supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail
From: "mcldanl" <lummy3744nojunk@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Remember the value of life... all life: SUBMISSION TO JABRIOL
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:35:57 -0500
X-Complaints-To:
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.abortion,sci.anthropology.paleo,alt.atheism,
alt.support.depression
And here are the headers of a post from a Watchtower supporter made a few
days ago:
http://google.com/groups?selm=qhjohvcoef0f6eqa4h78226jk43imhsd2l@4ax.com
You can check the headers by clicking ("Original Format")
Path: .. supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail
From: Paul Eagle <phiecho@charter.net>
Subject: research request, 1930's Germany
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:36:32 -0400
X-Complaints-To:
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Hmmmmm... both posted via news service: Supernews
both from an email address @ charter.net
both to the same N.G. arj-w
both just a few days apart
;-)
A coincidence - or are you another FILTHY JW LIAR, CHEAT AND FORGER? WHAT
HAVE YOU TO SAY, "mcldanl" <lummy3744nojunk@charter.net>?
Your clumsy attempts to suggest JABRIOL is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses
is clearly propaganda for the cult you are protecting.
Notwithstanding your protests, you are clearly a JW yourself (your
familiarity with the "blood card" gives a little away), indulging in
"Theocratic War Strategy" to discredit those who expose the JWs for what
they are...
Run away, before I issue an UADNA directive which will result in your full
name, address and contact details being broadcast to all and sundry.
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The Watchtower Society and the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult is an embodiment of
SPIRITUAL PORNOGRAPHY, a WOLFISH TRICK, a MOST FILTHY LIE, a CHEAT, a SCAM,
a DISGUSTING ABOMINATION, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a WICKED FRAUD, a DISGRACE,
a SCANDAL, a PEDOPHILE PARADISE - and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish
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Love
Prominent Bethelite.
Examples of FINE SPIRITUAL FOOD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FROM "THE SLAVE":
"We need not here repeat the evidences that the 'seventh trump' began its
sounding in A.D. 1840, and will continue until the end of the time of
trouble" {WT Nov 1880 p1}; "masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but
rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts" {WT May 15 1970 p315;
also WT Oct 1 1970 p604}; "If heaven were made the receptacle of the
heathen, savages, barbarians, the idiotic, simple, insane and INFANTS, it
would cease to be heaven to a considerable extent, and become a pandemonium
.. billions of ignorant, imbecile and degraded .. never formed characters
[not] fit companions for saints" {WT Oct 15 1896 p245} Fine JW Wisdom!!
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