Jehovah's Witness Jabriol will soon OWN your house: Meekly Submit to him!
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I see so much strife against Jabriol, who is a member of Jehovah's
Witnesses in good standing, whose words are sometimes taken out of context
and quoted, and whose more enlightened parodies are widely misrepresented
and misconstrued.
O.K., I do admit his recent attacks against Carol (where he keeps talking
about her husband pounding/smashing her face) were far too personal
and inaccurate (but evolution throws up such things from time to time -
perfection is gradual and never quite attained). But the words, once
translated, were meant quite affectionately, IMO.
To avoid misunderstandings, as reading comprehension levels are low here
in arj-w and elsewhere, I shall define what I mean by a "Jehovah's
Witness" (JW). A JW is a person who is or has been a baptized or
unbaptized associate/committed-student of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who is
not currently in a state of disfellowshipment (!!) or disassociation, and
who does not actively seek to undermine that "faith" (not an in-word;
remember, the Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT a religion, let alone a cult) or
move people away from it.
Having had dealings with those in lofty positions within the hierarchy of
God's Organization, the sole channel for "the truth", I can say this with
some authority:-
Jabriol is one of the SMARTEST JWs I have ever encountered. Or you are
likely to ever encounter.
He puts ALL other JWs in arj-w to shame with his clarity of thought,
acuity of perception, penetrativity of insight and breathtaking depth of
view. Jabriol, one of the SMARTEST JWs I have ever encountered, is
ideally suited to fulfil the role of JWs, as set out in Acts 8, of
assisting the celebrated Eunuch of yore.
Jabriol is a baptized member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. He is "in good
standing". His name is Senor Antonio Santana. This is verified.
Jabriol's views expounded on these newsgroups represent, more or less, the
official views of the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES - just expressed a bit
colorfully.
Jabriol is especially accurate in his reflection of Watchtower
pronouncements on the subject of the AMERICAN SCHOOL SYSTEM, EVOLUTION,
RAPE and (other, also desirable) PUNISHMENT OF WOMEN. Here are some
official Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings on this subject (from their own
literature):
"If you are a Christian woman, what should you do if, in spite of all
precautions, you are set upon by a rapist? If you cannot deter him by
reasoning, or by calling upon the name of Jehovah, then what? As a
Christian you are under obligation to resist. This resistance includes
screaming and creating as much disturbance as possible .. Resistance is
imperative, because the rapist is after, not just money, but your virtue.
An issue of integrity to Jehovah's laws is involved here. So by no means
would it be proper quietly to submit to rape, as that would be consenting
to fornication. -1 Thess. 4:3.. Would it be different if the man had a
weapon and threatened to kill you if you did not submit? No, the
Scriptures plainly state that Christians are under obligation to 'flee
from fornication.' (1 Cor. 6:18). It is true that you face the possibility
of death in this case.." {AWAKE Aug 3 1974 p14}
I explain this for the benefit of JWs - or other mentally-handicapped
folk:-
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Per JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' OFFICIAL TEACHINGS 8/3/74: JW ANSWER
Is the woman compelled to strongly Resist a rapist? [Yes]
Even if the rapist(s) is/are armed? Knife? Gun? [Yes]
Even if he threatened to kill if she did not submit? [Yes]
Would Jehovah's Laws be breached if she did not resist? [Yes]
Even in the last circumstance -"I'll kill you unless"? [Yes]
Even if she is actually in the process of being killed? [Yes]
If she fails in ANY of this, is she is a FORNICATOR? [Yes]
Is that per the OFFICIAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BIBLE? [Yes]
Are fornicators subject to JW's DISCIPLINARY ACTION? [Yes]
Is usual outcome where there is fornication, Removal? [Yes]
Is the person removed (DF'd) to be TOTALLY SHUNNED for
LIFE by all JWs (a grudging part-exception for very
close family, but even they must spiritually shun) [Yes]
Will another JW who breaks the shunning be SHUNNED? [Yes]
As JWs PREDOMINANTLY HAVE JW FRIENDS & CONTACTS, does
this SHUNNING have a very considerable bad effect? [Yes]
Has it been found to cause DEPRESSION even SUICIDES? [Yes]
Is SHUNNING a tool to CONTROL JWs and make them comply? [Yes]
Has the Poor Victim of Violent-Rape been raped AGAIN? [Yes]
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I have held or am holding a Prominent Position within the Squirrelly
Echelons of the Jehovah's Witnesses (if I leave I will be shunned for all
my life by my family whom I love, so I am trapped), and I honestly declare
to you that JABRIOL is one of the most intelligent and truthful JEHOVAH'S
WITNESSES you are ever likely to encounter.
JABBERS THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND VERY TRUTHFUL EVEN COURTEOUS
COMPARED TO OTHER JWs
Dwell upon that thought....
In my half-century of associating with Jehovah's Witnesses, I have seldom
encountered a jW as balanced, reasonable, well-read, knowledgeable, fair,
articulate and intelligent as Mr Manuel (a.k.a Antonio) Santana, who posts
here using the handle of "JABRIOL".
Jabriol represents most of the finest qualities and virtues of Jehovah's
Witnesses.
You could judge all jWs by Jabriol.
So, now on to those who attack this finest one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jabriol is giving you heathen and/or followers of the Great ***** of
Babylon and her daughter harlots (viz.,"Christendom") in talk.origins etc.
a fine witness, showing you the shallowness of your reasoning, the
puerility of your "logic" and reminding you of what fate awaits YOU - and
your minor children, I hasten to add - at Armageddonandon, when Jehovah God
will slaughter all six billion of you who are not of the Watchtower.
Focus your minds instead on what means will be employed to dispose of your
corpses, and how your property will be redistributed among the Jehovah's
Witnesses, as the Watchtower (our flagship publication) has done on several
times. I quote from Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (i.e. Jehovah's
Witnesses) OFFICIAL literature, the first of which (starting "they shall
look in amazement .. ") was designated by the jWs as being specifically
suitable FOR YOUR KIDS :-
"How This World Comes To An End .. the Devil's all-out attack on Jehovah's
New World society .. this attack on the last ones of God's spiritual nation
and their companions, the 'other sheep', is really an attack on God's
kingdom. So the attack calls for the settling of the question, Who rules
heaven and earth? It provokes Jehovah to the greatest anger .. Jehovah's
anger comes up into his face. The 'day of Jehovah's anger' arrives
-Zephaniah 2:2, AS. Stirred up to the greatest anger by an all-out attack
on his own people, Jehovah goes into action.. Jehovah gives Christ the King
the command to destroy the Devil's wicked world. How? With 'every kind of
terror.' The Bible tells us what some of these terrors will be. Says
Jehovah: 'I will rain upon him (Gog the Devil), and upon his hordes, and
upon the many peoples that are with him, an overflowing shower, and great
hailstones, fire, and brimstone.' (Ezekiel 38:22, AS) Great will be the
terror at Armageddon. 'Every kind of terror' will be used to destroy this
evil world - cloudbursts, lashing rains, overflowing floods, earthquakes,
giant hailstones and a rain of fire. There will be terror on the land,
terror in the sea and terror in the air. With shocking surprise Armageddon
will catch all thos persons outside the New World Society.. The day of
Jehovah is at hand; as destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
Therefore shall all hands be feeble, and every heart of man shall melt: and
they shall be dismayed; pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they
shall be in pain as a woman in travail: they shall look in amazement one at
another; their faces shall be faces of flame .. Soul-chilling terror will
spread through the masses or people so that they will lose control of
themselves; they will begin killing one another .. On that say a great
panic from the LORD (Jehovah) shall fall on them .. every man's sword shall
be against his brother .. But their selfish fight to live will be all in
vain. Those who escape being killed by their neighbors will be destroyed by
God's heavenly armies .. Christ's angels will smite all the opposers of
God's kingdom and his kingdom Witnesses with a terrible destruction. A
flesh-eating plague will destroy many. Says Jehovah: 'Their flesh shall rot
while they are still on their feet, their eyes shall rot in their sockets,
and their tongues shall rot in their mouths'.. Eaten up will be the tongues
of those who scoffed and laughed at the warning of Armageddon! Eaten up
will be the eyes of those who refused to see the sign of the 'time of the
end'! Eaten up will be the flesh of those who would not learn that the
living and true God is named Jehovah! Eaten up while they stand on their
feet! Where can people hide from this destruction coming from God? Nowhere!
Jehovah says: 'Not one of them shall escape. Though they dig into Sheol,
from there shall my hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, from
there I will bring them down. Though they hide themselves on the top of
(Mount) Carmel, from there I will search out and take them..' 25. In their
fear, what will people do to one another? 26. What kind of plague will
Jehovah bring upon those who fight against his people? 27. When Armageddon
begins, will there be any way for people to escape destruction?" 1958
Paradise Lost, Paradise Regained p207-9 (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' BOOK FOR
CHILDREN!!!)
"Quite evidently there will be many more bodies strewn over the earth as a
result of the war at Har-Magedon than there will be scavenger birds enough
to dispose of them all in a reasonable time for human health reasons. So it
is reasonable to expect that God will dispose of excess bodies by other
means.. 'How horrible all this!' Should that be our reaction of mind toward
this prophecy of the disastrous defeat of Gog's dastardly attack upon the
only remaining peaceful worshiper of Jehovah on earth at the end of this
violent system of things? Not rightly so!" 1971 The Nations Shall Know That
I Am Jehovah - How? p377-8
"The bodies of the slain will not molder in honorable burial places.
Unburied, their flesh will be picked away clean to the bone, beyond
identifying the bare skeletons. Because of the multitude of the slain, it
will be a huge feast for the scavengers.. So, instead of having their bones
eaten clean of all decaying flesh by the maggots at the Valley of Hinnom
(or, at Gehenna), the carcasses of the slain enemies at Har-Magedon will,
as it were, be eaten clear to the bone by nature's sanitation force, the
carrion-eating birds and wild beasts.. Quite evidently there will be many
more bodies strewn over the earth as a result of the war at Har-Magedon
than there will be scavenger birds enough to dispose of them all in a
reasonable time for human health reasons. So it is reasonable to expect
that God will dispose of excess bodies by other means.. What a
well-deserved, contemptible end for all these opposers of Jehovah and his
Messianic kingdom at Har-Magedon!.. Disaster for Fighters Against God's New
Order.. The unburied dead, 'those slain by Jehovah,' will be so enormously
many that even the carrion birds and scavenging wild beasts could never
take care of their consumption. The burial of even what remains after these
lower creatures have their fill would be stupendous. Doubtless the Almighty
God will use some highly scientific means, whether including antimatter or
not, to dispose of the surplus of decaying bodies in a speedy and sanitary
way. This remains for the survivors of the 'war of the great day' to see
and witness. We remember that Noah and his seven fellow survivors of the
global Deluge were not burdened with burying the human victims of that
world catastrophe after they came out of the ark and renewed Jehovah's
worship on earth.-Genesis 8:18-22.'" 1975 Man's Salvation Out of World
Distress p275-6
"Probably most of those now living will die by poison gas, when the time
comes. The best for suffocation is phosgene, which can be carried by the
wind far and wide, suffocating all. Mustard gas burns the flesh off.. If
the supply of these runs out, there are the disease microbes to fall back
on. But the trouble is that when the time comes we shall have to take
whichever kind is handed out to us; and none of them seems to look very
good.. there is one chemical, a late product of the World War, that could
incapacitate a soldier if a single drop of it happened to be merely picked
up by the heel of his shoe. Imagine this liquid scattered over No Man's
Land in place of the barbed wire entanglements of the last war.. it could
not be traversed; and no infantry could advance toward the retreating
army." 1926 The Golden Age Oct 20 p47 (also 1927 Mar 9 p365)
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the 'great
crowd,' as a united organisation under the protection of the Supreme
Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this
doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil. (Revelation 7:9-17; 2
Corinthians 4:4) They will make up the 'flesh' that Jesus Christ said would
be saved through the worst tribulation of all human history." 1989
Watchtower Sep 1 p19
"Can it be stated flatly that only baptized witnesses of Jehovah will
survive Armageddon?.. It would be misleading to answer this question with
either a simple 'Yes' or a 'No.' The Scriptural answer of necessity must be
a 'qualified' one, and it is easy to see why. At 1 Corinthians 7:14 the
Bible shows that God can consider as 'holy' the minor children of a
Christian parent. Though they are young and not yet to the point of being
personally responsible to Jehovah, their parent is trying to develop in
them a love of God and of the way of righteousness. It seems clear that at
the time of the destructive war of Armageddon God will preserve them on the
basis of the family merit of the Christian parent, even though the children
are not yet dedicated and baptized. The reply must also be 'qualified'
because the Bible does not pointedly say how God is going to handle certain
unusual cases, such as those involving mentally retarded persons who never
had the capacity to learn about Jehovah and his purposes. Regarding these
unbaptized persons, it is possible that family merit may apply as in the
case of minor, irresponsible children who have a faithful believing parent
or guardian. Nonetheless, these special instances do not diminish in any
way the importance of dedication and baptism for those desiring God's favor
and protection through the destructive climax of this wicked system of
things. God urges those truly interested in survival to seek righteousness
and to call on him in faith. (Zeph. 2:2, 3; Joel 2:32) That obviously means
that a person must do all in his power to do God's will. And what is that
will as regards baptism? Jesus was baptized in water, setting an example
for Christians. (Matt. 3:13-17; 1 Pet. 2:21) Among his final instructions
to his disciples is the command to 'make disciples of people of all the
nations, baptizing them.' (Matt. 28:19, 20) And one has but to read the
book of Acts to see that early Christians recognized that baptism was a
necessary step of obedience for all desiring God's favor.-Acts 2:37-41;
16:30-33. Neither the Watch Tower Society nor any human today can lessen
the force of that indication of God's will.. And they need to do so now,
before it becomes too late to begin thinking about becoming a servant of
Jehovah. The 'sheep' who are preserved into 'everlasting life' will be
responsible persons who do God's will as completely as possible. (1 John
2:17) The Bible shows without doubt that Jehovah's will for humans today
includes being baptized and being public witnesses of him.-Rom. 10:10.
Jesus compared our time, faced as it is with the end of this wicked system
of things, to the days of Noah. (Matt. 24:36-39) And drawing on Noah's
experience, the apostle Peter added: 'That which corresponds to this is
also now saving you, namely, baptism, (not the putting away of the filth of
the flesh, but the request made to God for a good conscience).' (1 Pet.
3:20, 21) So all who desire salvation ought to recognize how vital the step
of baptism is." 1971 WT Jan 15 p63 (i.e ONLY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND THEIR
MINOR KIDS HAVE ANY HOPE OF SURVIVING ARMAGEDDON)
"'The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth' .. When the 'day of vengeance of our
God' will have passed and the "meek of the earth" will come forth from
their place of hiding from Armageddon's storm, they will look for the place
once occupied by the wicked bosses and oppressors of men. But it shall not
be! There will be a free New World, free from unrighteous men and from the
demons under Satan. The cleansed earth will be open for occupancy by the
meek; and they will appreciate the literal fulfillment of the divine
promise: 'Wait on the LORD (Jehovah), and keep his way, and he shall exalt
thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.'
(Psalm 37: 10, 34) .. the meek will wait upon the King and his visible
princes in the earth to locate them and assign them their portion in the
land.. They will gladly accept the grant of land that the King graciously
makes to them. When Jehovah God in ancient days settled the nation of
Israel in the Promised Land of Palestine, he aided them by his miraculous
power to dispossess the wrongful, wicked occupiers thereof, the religious
demon worshiping heathen. He thrust out the Canaanites .. in their place he
located the Israelites who kept covenant with him. The religious worshipers
or false gods were not let possess the land, but those who worshiped the
true and living God Jehovah were planted in the land." 1945 The Meek
(Shall) Inherit the Earth p24-7
And all these quotations are from the official JW Bibles.
So, all those BIG HOUSES will be "our's".
Who knows, Jabriol may have your's, you worldly one!!
Now, you know what awaits you UNLESS you submit yourselves promptly and
meekly to Jabriol's theocratic counsel. Jabriol is among the finest that
our faith The Truth(tm) has to offer, and who speaks to you with the full
blessings and encouragement of his congregation, the visible organization
and his Brothers. I suggest you reflect carefully before responding.
And thank you, Jabriol, for carrying the message to these unfruitful works
of darkness, the spawn of Satan, the diseased filth to which our Mother
Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses so often refers...
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:00:37 -0400, "jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <not@naddress.com> wrote in message
news:bhf4cv$28pt$1@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
"jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f3af91f$0$44788$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Bethe57 (bethe57@cs.com)
Newsgroups: alt.abortion
Date: 2003-08-13 10:56:02 PST
From: "~ MaryAnn Livingston ~"
Jabriol comes from the fundamentalist NG called
alt.religion.jehovah's-witn
and considers himself a religious person and an intellectual. Never
mind
he
believes in beating women into submission, forcing wives to "service"
their
husbands, feels rape is justified and worse.
You have got to be kidding? Rape, beating your wife, controlling your
wife
are
part of his belief system? Yuck! Now I know why I slam the door when
the
Jehovah's Witnesses come around in our neighborhood.......actually I
tell
them
I am an atheist and that works pretty well!
So, Jabriol, what do you have to say for yourself? Are the above
allegations
true?
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas
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<snippity doo dah>
she should leave the Net and service her husband...
Only in her own mind...
If I ndid everything she said I did, I would be in Jail.
like I said consider the source..
next she going to say, I put hamsters in microwave ovens.
if she stayed of fthe Net and service husband Like a good wife should, as
mention in the last chapter in proverbs.. he would have a grin on his face,
and would not have to pind her face into bloody pulp...
Are you for bloody real?
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The Watchtower Society and the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult is an embodiment of
SPIRITUAL PORNOGRAPHY, a WOLFISH TRICK, a MOST FILTHY LIE, a CHEAT, a SCAM,
a DISGUSTING ABOMINATION, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a WICKED FRAUD, a DISGRACE,
a SCANDAL, a PEDOPHILE PARADISE - and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish
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And on the third day, God said:
"Let there be div(D)=Pf, div(B)=0, curl(E)=-dB/dt, curl(H)=jf+dD/dt."
And there was light."
Love
Prominent Bethelite.
Examples of FINE SPIRITUAL FOOD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FROM "THE SLAVE":
"We need not here repeat the evidences that the 'seventh trump' began its
sounding in A.D. 1840, and will continue until the end of the time of
trouble" {WT Nov 1880 p1}; "masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but
rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts" {WT May 15 1970 p315;
also WT Oct 1 1970 p604}; "If heaven were made the receptacle of the
heathen, savages, barbarians, the idiotic, simple, insane and INFANTS, it
would cease to be heaven to a considerable extent, and become a pandemonium
.. billions of ignorant, imbecile and degraded .. never formed characters
[not] fit companions for saints" {WT Oct 15 1896 p245} Fine JW Wisdom!!
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THE LIST OF AMAZING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' CLAIMS, BELIEFS & PREDICTIONS
Prepared by MYSELF may be found at the following websites:-
http://www.freeminds.org/history/part1.htm
http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm
http://localsonly.wilmington.net/jmalik/TheList.zip
http://www.concordance.com/watchtower.htm
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