Science > Abortion > Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF)
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"Craig Chilton" |
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29 Sep 2005 12:05:18 AM |
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Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:50:59 -0400,
Tony Clifton <TonyCliftonReturns@webtv.net> wrote:
Yes I can just see how much better off this country has become
without God.
Ah! The ol' RRR Cult "Godless America" lie/myth.
Ever heard of the ACLU complaining, or bringing suit against some-
one's putting a manger scene in front of their house at Christmastime?
How about a Ten Commandments monument, displayed the same
way?
Are you aware that MOST of America's land and buildings are
PRIVATE property?
Guess what?
The vitally-important principle of the separation of church and state
has NOTHING to do governing that which is done with PRIVATE land
and property, when it comes to religious expression.
Instead of the RRR's leaders **whining** about not being able to
display the Ten Commandments in courthouses, and the like... and
in the process CONNING their ignoramus lemmings into thinking that's
something to be concerned about -- they SHOULD be **honest**
with everyone and say: "Sheesh!!! This is NO big deal! Because
if everyone in a town having 5,000 Christians households in it should
ever decide that they'd like to display the Ten Commandments
publicly, there'd be so many of them in front yards that it'd be as hard to
be out of sight of them as it is to be out of sight of corn in Iowa when
driving through the countryside in July."
The RRR Cult should adopt a motto: "STUPIDITY - 'S - US."
And what about the "under God" words that were added to the
Pledge of Allegiance, back in 1954? I was 13 then. And living in an
America that had gotten along just FINE until then **without** an
unconstitutional *endorsement* of a religion by the state.
We'd WON World War II with that PRE-altered Pledge in use.
The Korean War had been drawn to a close. And the America just
before the Pledge was altered was prosperous and very nicely at
peace. GEE!! How did we ever do all that WITHOUT a state
endorsement of religion being crammed down our throats?
Now our children carry guns to school now that they cant pray.
You really don't know DIDDLY about cause-and-effect, do you?
How about, "our children carry guns to school now that they don't
carry Howdy Doody lunch pails anymore?" Makes JUST as much sense.
CLUE: MOST schools never *had* mandated prayer *before* it became
illegal to FORCE children to pray in public schools. And guess what?
Any kid who wants to pray by himself in school can *do* so legally.
(BTW -- Just under WHAT circumstances does the Bible tell people
to pray? In a closet, maybe? Privately?)
(DAMN, but RRR cultists and their ilk are dumber than rusty anvils!)
This has got to be the biggest proof that atheist are stupid that I
have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!
Naw. Just one of the better examples I've seen lately that RRR Cult
dogmas and actual Christianity are pretty much mutually exclusive. It
has NOTHING to do with atheists. Most of whom just happen to be
exponentially more intelligent and sensible than most of the RRR Cult's
lemmings.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
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| User: "IBen Getiner" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
30 Sep 2005 03:44:19 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:50:59 -0400,
Tony Clifton <TonyCliftonReturns@webtv.net> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God. Yeah....
IBen Getiner
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
01 Oct 2005 12:30:37 AM |
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IBen Getiner <Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
01 Oct 2005 04:57:08 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner <Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves. To the fucking uttermost. "America in her
righteous might will win through to absolute victory, so help us God".
FDR said that.
We are benevolently righteous, Ray. And our God has made us mighty
because of that. But this will all be lost on the likes of you, the
America hater type. What a waste of my time, talking to a person who
doesn't even know when a baby becomes a 'real' human being... A person
who is soooo fucking concerned over what a 'real' abortion photo is as
opposed to a fake one! LOL! What do you THINK a real abortion looks
like, Ray? LOL..!!
This is not mixing apples with oranges. It fits together fine with your
attitude on the initial subject matter. It just goes to show what kind
of a truly mixed up little ***** you are. Subhuman Jerk-off *****.
Or is it Subhuman Jerk-off *****-sucker?
Get AIDS and suffer, Ray. And then cash in your dirty little stack of
ugly worthless chips. The sooner the better.
IBen Getiner
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
01 Oct 2005 06:47:35 PM |
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<Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner <Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves.
By exterminating native Americans.
By invading other nationas and killing their people.
The new right-wing double-speak version of "defense".
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 05:01:19 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
<Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner <Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves.
By exterminating native Americans.
By invading other nationas and killing their people.
The new right-wing double-speak version of "defense".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Is that the best you got? That doesn't even wet my lips for a dignified
reply. You sound like a sniveling little snot-nosed kid who can't
understand why he isn't allowed to ***** in his pants anymore.
"You mean ol' hateful Father... You.. you... you... hurt those poor ol'
misunderstood Indians just because YOU say they were trying to savagely
murder, rape and scalp Mom and me! Mean ol' evil Daddy. What do you
know....?"
You see, Ray... Liberalism has its big ***** up your greasy little
azzhole. To the ballz. THAT is the problem with YOU. You know this
yourself, yet you willingly raise your dirty little azzhole to it. You
***** yourself to it on all fours, right on the open ground for all to
see.
But what does it really matter? I said it all to you in my first post.
DIDN'T I, Ray...?! LOL...!! I hit every ugly nail on it's twisted,
warped little head. Even the hidden ones!
Good luck in your future endeavors as you continue to be a perverted
mixed up little left-wing LOZER, Ray! And better luck with your future
reasoning abilities as well. Maybe something will develop when your
testicles descend! LOL...!!
IBen Getiner
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 12:50:46 PM |
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<Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
<Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner <Lappcatt@aol.com> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves.
By exterminating native Americans.
By invading other nationas and killing their people.
The new right-wing double-speak version of "defense".
Is that the best you got?
No, but it's enough.
That doesn't even wet my lips for a dignified
reply.
"Run away!"
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Happy One" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 10:09:19 AM |
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Lappcatt@aol.com says...
....
Is that the best you got? That doesn't even wet my lips for a dignified
reply. You sound like a sniveling little snot-nosed kid who can't
understand why he isn't allowed to ***** in his pants anymore.
"You mean ol' hateful Father... You.. you... you... hurt those poor ol'
misunderstood Indians just because YOU say they were trying to savagely
murder, rape and scalp Mom and me! Mean ol' evil Daddy. What do you
know....?"
You see, Ray... Liberalism has its big ***** up your greasy little
azzhole. To the ballz. THAT is the problem with YOU. You know this
yourself, yet you willingly raise your dirty little azzhole to it. You
***** yourself to it on all fours, right on the open ground for all to
see.
But what does it really matter? I said it all to you in my first post.
DIDN'T I, Ray...?! LOL...!! I hit every ugly nail on it's twisted,
warped little head. Even the hidden ones!
Good luck in your future endeavors as you continue to be a perverted
mixed up little left-wing LOZER, Ray! And better luck with your future
reasoning abilities as well. Maybe something will develop when your
testicles descend! LOL...!!
IBen Getiner
Maybe when this fellow gets to age 15 and learns that
insult and filth are not argument, you might be able
to have discourse with him.
First post of his I read, and
*plonk*.
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 08:37:10 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Lappcatt@aol.com:
"You mean ol' hateful Father... You.. you... you... hurt those poor ol'
misunderstood Indians just because YOU say they were trying to savagely
murder, rape and scalp Mom and me! Mean ol' evil Daddy. What do you
know....?"
Right, only white Americans should be allowed to do those things. Right?
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "Louise Mallard" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 05:10:12 AM |
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On 2 Oct 2005 03:01:19 -0700, wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
< > wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner < > wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves.
By exterminating native Americans.
By invading other nationas and killing their people.
The new right-wing double-speak version of "defense".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Is that the best you got? That doesn't even wet my lips for a dignified
reply.
But chasing under-aged girls does, eh?
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
01 Oct 2005 05:58:19 PM |
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writes:
Ray Fischer wrote:
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves. To the fucking uttermost. "America in her
righteous might will win through to absolute victory, so help us God".
FDR said that.
We are benevolently righteous, Ray. And our God has made us mighty
because of that. But this will all be lost on the likes of you, the
America hater type.
As Nazi Germany crumbled around him, Josef Mengele (see
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele>) sent a letter to his
mother claiming that they had always acted with the highest ideals and
the most noble of intentions. I guess he also thought he had God on
his side and that his country could do no wrong. And believing that
is a sure recipe for having it happen again.
BTW, the letters were published some years ago in die Zeit. Mengele
kept detailed records of his correspondence and these were sorted into
two piles - the ones useful for prosecuting him and personal
correspondence (e.g., letters to mom) of no use in a criminal
prosecution. The latter were misplaced and only rediscovered decades
later, and are of historical interest: you could not fully trust
anything Mengele wrote in his official letters because he was a
notorious backstabber who would do or say anything to get ahead,
so "letters to mom" provide some insight into what he really throught.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 04:29:33 AM |
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No One wrote:
<snip echo>
Noooo One. Is that you? It can't be. Must be an echo, since I have
their NG character down as deceased in my little black book.
Oh, well... Must have just been the wind..... Too bad, since It was so
much fun running No One dry and into the fucking concrete wall during
our last little cha-cha.
Just another left-wing RUNT who never could go the distance. Too
fucking bad.
IBen Getiner
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IBen Getiner says 'Hi'!
http://lamicil2006.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/2003-10-13-lamisil.jpg
IBen said it... That settles it...!
10,000 plus pages of arch-conservatism as only IBen Getiner can spout
it
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=iben-getiner&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
03 Oct 2005 01:04:18 AM |
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writes:
No One wrote:
<snip echo>
Noooo One. Is that you? It can't be. Must be an echo, since I have
their NG character down as deceased in my little black book. Oh,
well... Must have just been the wind..... Too bad, since It was so
much fun running No One dry and into the fucking concrete wall
during our last little cha-cha. Just another left-wing RUNT who
never could go the distance. Too fucking bad.
IBen Getiner (aka Lappcatt) is now reduced to the usenet trick of
declaring victory long after he lost an argument, figuring that nobody
would remember what he was talking about.
I.e., Iben Getiner is simply another usenet liar.
You'll note too that he completely snipped the post he was replying
to, and his "echo" thing is a lie as well.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
01 Oct 2005 07:41:56 PM |
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wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner < > wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves. To the fucking uttermost. "America in her
righteous might will win through to absolute victory, so help us God".
FDR said that.
We are benevolently righteous, Ray. And our God has made us mighty
because of that.
There is next to nothing righteous about you, nor is your god mighty.
You're just more bloodthirsty than average, and people that enjoy
killing make better than average killers.
The Muslims are the same way. And better at it than you.
But this will all be lost on the likes of you, the
America hater type. What a waste of my time, talking to a person who
doesn't even know when a baby becomes a 'real' human being... A person
who is soooo fucking concerned over what a 'real' abortion photo is as
opposed to a fake one! LOL! What do you THINK a real abortion looks
like, Ray? LOL..!!
This is not mixing apples with oranges. It fits together fine with your
attitude on the initial subject matter. It just goes to show what kind
of a truly mixed up little ***** you are. Subhuman Jerk-off *****.
Or is it Subhuman Jerk-off *****-sucker?
Get AIDS and suffer, Ray. And then cash in your dirty little stack of
ugly worthless chips. The sooner the better.
IBen Getiner
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
02 Oct 2005 10:37:18 AM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Jon/IBen:
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves. To the fucking uttermost. "America in her
righteous might will win through to absolute victory, so help us God".
"Defending yourselves"??? Against what, phantom (i.e. unreal) menaces that
will never go away because they're made-up from the start?
--
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "Bernard Hubbard" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
07 Oct 2005 02:43:36 AM |
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On 1 Oct 2005 14:57:08 -0700, wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
IBen Getiner < > wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians and The Empire of Japan. Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
So you're saying that "Christian" societies are better at genocide?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
No, Ray. You're mixed up about the truth again, as usual. We are better
at DEFENDING ourselves. To the fucking uttermost. "America in her
righteous might will win through to absolute victory, so help us God".
FDR said that.
We are benevolently righteous, Ray. And our God has made us mighty
because of that. But this will all be lost on the likes of you, the
America hater type. What a waste of my time, talking to a person who
doesn't even know when a baby becomes a 'real' human being... A person
who is soooo fucking concerned over what a 'real' abortion photo is as
opposed to a fake one! LOL! What do you THINK a real abortion looks
like, Ray? LOL..!!
This is not mixing apples with oranges. It fits together fine with your
attitude on the initial subject matter. It just goes to show what kind
of a truly mixed up little ***** you are. Subhuman Jerk-off *****.
Or is it Subhuman Jerk-off *****-sucker?
Get AIDS and suffer, Ray. And then cash in your dirty little stack of
ugly worthless chips. The sooner the better.
IBen Getiner
Spoken like a genuine fundy *****.
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"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped."~Elbert Hubbard to quote a relative of mine.
Bernard Hubbard
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
30 Sep 2005 06:05:01 AM |
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IBen Getiner wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:50:59 -0400,
Tony Clifton <TonyCliftonReturns@webtv.net> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians
....whose societies were much better off without christianity...
and The Empire of Japan.Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God. Yeah....
So "God" to you equates with killing people,hm? Wonder which of the
Christian deities you're following- the "Prince of Peace" or the
horned-and-tailed death-and-destruction guy?
But then we already knew that....
IBen Getiner
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| User: "Zeligg" |
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| Title: Re: Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'(YES PROOF) |
30 Sep 2005 02:48:35 PM |
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On 30 Sep 2005 01:44:19 -0700, "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@aol.com>
wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:50:59 -0400,
Tony Clifton <TonyCliftonReturns@webtv.net> wrote:
Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
<snip brain decay>
Tell that to the American Indians
You mean the ones that we gave diseased blankets to under the guise of
friendship? Say, isn't secretly spreading disease what we accuse
terrorists of?
and The Empire of Japan.
Um, Japan's culture is alive and well (and becoming more and more
entrenched in America as well, I might add)
Both of
which got their now-dead cultures kicked by us and our God.
Do you really think god took part in the slaughter of people he
created? How sad for you.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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