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User: "The Revrand"
Date: 31 Aug 2006 11:32:49 AM
Object: Re: the mind of a serial killer - the Israeli kind
On 31 Aug 2006 08:10:08 -0700, "jgarbuz" <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:

If the Arabs want to play Nazi, then Israelis are NOT going to play
"the Jews of WWII." Our Torah teaches, that if someone is coming to
kill you, rise up like a lion and kill him first. Jews have turned
their cheeks long enough, and no more.

Your torah roll is only good for toilet paper.

Heinrich wrote:

Almost every day, Yaalon had to decide who would live or die. "Who is a
'ticking bomb' ? Can we arrest him? Who is a priority -- this guy first, or
this guy first?" Yaalon recalled. Once a week, military intelligence and
Shin Bet proposed new names. At first, the list was limited to bombers
themselves, but several years later it expanded to those who manufacture
bombs and those who plan attacks.
Soon, it included their neighbors, their neighbors' kids, the neighborhood
dogs, and anything else that lived and breathed and happened to come in
contact with the target, for however brief a time, or for whatever reason.


"I called it 'cutting weeds.' I knew their names by heart," Yaalon said.
How many did he kill? "Oh, hundreds, hundreds. I knew them. I had all the
details with their pictures, maps, intelligence, on the table. Where does he
live? What is his routine? Is he married? How many children did he have? If
he had lots ofkids, it crossed my mind." It was hard to fathom, Yaalon said:
"It became a routine to look into their eyes in the photo. In certain cases
it's unbelievable -- he looks so naive, a young guy looks nice, a baby face,
especially a 16-year-old suicide bomber. It's beyond imagination."
Reisner, the legal expert, was often consulted at the meetings, which he
described as "very, very trying. Especially when I said it's okay. I'd go
back to my office and ask my deputy, 'Do you agree?' It's a frightening
process to be involved in, sitting in a room and talking about killing
someone. It's enough to make your skin crawl."
When the prime minister approves a target -- a requirement that can take
months -- the name is transferred from the Notebook to a shortlist typed on
a laminated card. Commanders carry the card in their pockets, along with bus
passes and keys. Each target is assigned a file, with instructions on when
and where he can be killed. Specialists mark up maps -- green lines for open
roads where killings minimize civilian risk, red lines for congested areas
to be avoided, Yaalon said. An operation can take 200 people, thousands of
man hours, and cost $1 million, Halutz said.
When a target is hit, Reisner said, the feeling is "complicated."

Not for Avi Dichter. "After each success, the only thought is, 'Okay,
who's next?' We really have a bottleneck," the former Shin Bet chief said.
One time they completed a killing at 5:30 a.m. "I said, 'What are we going
to do for the rest of the day?' Nothing limits Hamas attacks, except
terrorists still prefer their heads attached to their shoulders. If the M-16
delivers the message, the F-16 delivers it better."


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User: "Heinrich"

Title: Re: the mind of a serial killer - the Israeli kind 31 Aug 2006 11:42:43 AM
"The Re''vrand" <randergade@anglikkkan.com.za> schreef in bericht
news:44f70ef8.18001845@news.onetel.net.uk...

On 31 Aug 2006 08:10:08 -0700, "jgarbuz" <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:

If the Arabs want to play Nazi, then Israelis are NOT going to play
"the Jews of WWII." Our Torah teaches, that if someone is coming to
kill you, rise up like a lion and kill him first. Jews have turned
their cheeks long enough, and no more.


Your torah roll is only good for toilet paper.

lucky jacob


Heinrich wrote:

Almost every day, Yaalon had to decide who would live or die. "Who is a
'ticking bomb' ? Can we arrest him? Who is a priority -- this guy first,
or
this guy first?" Yaalon recalled. Once a week, military intelligence and
Shin Bet proposed new names. At first, the list was limited to bombers
themselves, but several years later it expanded to those who manufacture
bombs and those who plan attacks.
Soon, it included their neighbors, their neighbors' kids, the
neighborhood
dogs, and anything else that lived and breathed and happened to come in
contact with the target, for however brief a time, or for whatever
reason.


"I called it 'cutting weeds.' I knew their names by heart," Yaalon
said.
How many did he kill? "Oh, hundreds, hundreds. I knew them. I had all
the
details with their pictures, maps, intelligence, on the table. Where
does he
live? What is his routine? Is he married? How many children did he have?
If
he had lots ofkids, it crossed my mind." It was hard to fathom, Yaalon
said:
"It became a routine to look into their eyes in the photo. In certain
cases
it's unbelievable -- he looks so naive, a young guy looks nice, a baby
face,
especially a 16-year-old suicide bomber. It's beyond imagination."
Reisner, the legal expert, was often consulted at the meetings, which
he
described as "very, very trying. Especially when I said it's okay. I'd
go
back to my office and ask my deputy, 'Do you agree?' It's a frightening
process to be involved in, sitting in a room and talking about killing
someone. It's enough to make your skin crawl."
When the prime minister approves a target -- a requirement that can
take
months -- the name is transferred from the Notebook to a shortlist typed
on
a laminated card. Commanders carry the card in their pockets, along with
bus
passes and keys. Each target is assigned a file, with instructions on
when
and where he can be killed. Specialists mark up maps -- green lines for
open
roads where killings minimize civilian risk, red lines for congested
areas
to be avoided, Yaalon said. An operation can take 200 people, thousands
of
man hours, and cost $1 million, Halutz said.
When a target is hit, Reisner said, the feeling is "complicated."

Not for Avi Dichter. "After each success, the only thought is, 'Okay,
who's next?' We really have a bottleneck," the former Shin Bet chief
said.
One time they completed a killing at 5:30 a.m. "I said, 'What are we
going
to do for the rest of the day?' Nothing limits Hamas attacks, except
terrorists still prefer their heads attached to their shoulders. If the
M-16
delivers the message, the F-16 delivers it better."



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