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User: "Dennis Kemmerer"
Date: 21 Jan 2005 09:01:19 PM
Object: Re: The topic of same sex marriage.
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

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My answer was that I wasn't sure, but Fed law always supercedes

State

law.

If fed law is marriage is between a man and woman, and a same

sexer

filed

an income tax claiming a same sex spouse i think, it wouldn't meet

the

requirements of the IRS code. This is just my opinion though, I'm

no

lawyer.


There's no federal law that defines marriage,


DOMA?


The Act passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 342 to 67,

and

the

Senate by a vote of 85 to 14. Those congressional votes and the

passage

of

similar defensive marriage laws in 38 states express an overwhelming
consensus in our country for protecting the institution of marriage.


Consensus doesn't matter if DOMA gets overturned
by the Supreme Court, which it very likely will. The
Full Faith and Credit Clause in the Constitution is
pretty specific.


I don't speculate on court decisions, but I'm sure the court is taking

into

account Congresses opinion, the opinion of states who have had same sex
marriage on the ballot and polls of the American people.


Not bloody likely. The Court overturned the
Communication Decency Act, written by the same
congress and equally popular with the people.
ACLU v Reno. Check it out.

Sparky needs to research 'precedent.'
.

User: "joseph irvin"

Title: Re: The topic of same sex marriage. 21 Jan 2005 10:54:07 PM
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:

"joseph irvin" <j.m.irvin@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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My answer was that I wasn't sure, but Fed law always supercedes

State

law.

If fed law is marriage is between a man and woman, and a same

sexer

filed

an income tax claiming a same sex spouse i think, it wouldn't

meet

the

requirements of the IRS code. This is just my opinion though,

I'm

no

lawyer.


There's no federal law that defines marriage,


DOMA?


The Act passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 342 to 67,

and

the

Senate by a vote of 85 to 14. Those congressional votes and the

passage

of

similar defensive marriage laws in 38 states express an

overwhelming

consensus in our country for protecting the institution of

marriage.


Consensus doesn't matter if DOMA gets overturned
by the Supreme Court, which it very likely will. The
Full Faith and Credit Clause in the Constitution is
pretty specific.


I don't speculate on court decisions, but I'm sure the court is taking

into

account Congresses opinion, the opinion of states who have had same

sex

marriage on the ballot and polls of the American people.


Not bloody likely. The Court overturned the
Communication Decency Act, written by the same
congress and equally popular with the people.
ACLU v Reno. Check it out.


Sparky needs to research 'precedent.'

I have you Mr Kemmerer, you are taking me to school.



.
User: "L. Michael Roberts"

Title: Re: The topic of same sex marriage. 22 Jan 2005 01:29:21 AM
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:


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<snip>

Not bloody likely. The Court overturned the
Communication Decency Act, written by the same
congress and equally popular with the people.
ACLU v Reno. Check it out.


Sparky needs to research 'precedent.'


I have you Mr Kemmerer, you are taking me to school.

Hey Dennis... when did you start driving the short bus? :)
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User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: The topic of same sex marriage. 22 Jan 2005 10:08:02 AM
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:


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<snip>

Not bloody likely. The Court overturned the
Communication Decency Act, written by the same
congress and equally popular with the people.
ACLU v Reno. Check it out.


Sparky needs to research 'precedent.'


I have you Mr Kemmerer, you are taking me to school.


Hey Dennis... when did you start driving the short bus? :)

I thought I was finished with the Special Ed kids...
.
User: "Matty"

Title: Re: The topic of same sex marriage. 23 Jan 2005 04:17:22 AM
On 2005-01-23 05:08:02 +1300, "Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> said:

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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:


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<snip>

Not bloody likely. The Court overturned the
Communication Decency Act, written by the same
congress and equally popular with the people.
ACLU v Reno. Check it out.


Sparky needs to research 'precedent.'


I have you Mr Kemmerer, you are taking me to school.


Hey Dennis... when did you start driving the short bus? :)


I thought I was finished with the Special Ed kids...

Well, don't give the real Special Ed kids a hard time, atleast they
don't spend hours on the USENET spewing hatred and vile on the net like
the bigots on this newsgroup do.
Matty
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