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Re: The True Face of Elie Wiesel |
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:46:18 +0100, "Heinrich"
<Heinrich@Ruhrgasnet.tk> wrote:
Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has suggested Elie Wiesel to replace
Moshe Katzav as President of Israel. Katzav is being forced to resign amid
charges of rape. Wiesel's qualifications for the job are unimpeachable. He
is the icon of what Norman Finkelstein has called "The Holocaust Industry'
and as such he has served as a prop to "get the Jewish vote" by every
American President since Gerald Ford... In 1948 Wiesel worked as a
journalist for the Irgun, a gang of Jewish terrorists who committed the
massacre at Deir Yassin, arguably one of the most pivotal events in
twentieth century Palestinian history. Yet this "world-renowned
humanitarian" refuses to apologize or even acknowledge the murder, mayhem,
and ethnic cleansing caused by his employer.
A Prominent False Witness: Elie Wiesel - By Robert Faurisson
Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally accepted as a
witness to the Jewish "Holocaust," and, more specifically, as a witness to
the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers. The Paris daily Le Monde
emphasized at the time that Wiesel was awarded the Nobel Prize because: [1]
These last years have seen, in the name of so-called "historical
revisionism," the elaboration of theses, especially in France, questioning
the existence of the Nazi gas chambers and, perhaps beyond that, of the
genocide of the Jews itself.
But in what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas chambers? By
what right does he ask us to believe in that means of extermination? In an
autobiographical book that supposedly describes his experiences at Auschwitz
and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the gas chambers. [2] He does indeed say
that the Germans executed Jews, but ... by fire; by throwing them alive into
flaming ditches, before the very eyes of the deportees! No less than that!
Here Wiesel the false witness had some bad luck. Forced to choose from among
several Allied war propaganda lies, he chose to defend the fire lie instead
of the boiling water, gassing, or electrocution lies. In 1956, when he
published his testimony in Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain
circles. This lie is the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no
longer a single historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The
myths of the boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only
the gas remains.
The gassing lie was spread by the Americans. [3] The lie that Jews were
killed by boiling water or steam (specifically at Treblinka) was spread by
the Poles. [4] The electrocution lie was spread by the Soviets. [5]
The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war
propaganda or hate propaganda. In his memoir, Night, which is a version of
his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports that at Auschwitz there was
one flaming ditch for the adults and another one for babies. He writes: [6]
Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They
were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its load --
little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it -- saw it with my own eyes ... Those
children in the flames. (Is it surprising that I could not sleep after that?
Sleep has fled from my eyes.)
A little farther on there was another ditch with gigantic flames where the
victims suffered "slow agony in the flames." Wiesel's column was led by the
Germans to within "three steps" of the ditch, then to "two steps." "Two
steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left and made to go into a
barracks."
An exceptional witness himself, Wiesel assures us of his having met other
exceptional witnesses. Regarding Babi Yar, a place in Ukraine where the
Germans executed Soviet citizens, among them Jews, Wiesel wrote: [7]
Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground never
stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted
from it.
These words did not slip from their author in a moment of frenzy: first, he
wrote them, then some unspecified number of times (but at least once) he had
to reread them in the proofs; finally, his words were translated into
various languages, as is everything this author writes.
That Wiesel personally survived, was, of course, the result of a miracle. He
says that: [8]
In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 persons to their deaths each day. I was
always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?
In 1954 French scholar Germaine Tillion analyzed the "gratuitous lie" with
regard to the German concentration camps. She wrote: [9]
Those persons [who gratuitously lie] are, to tell the truth, much more
numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the
concentration camp world -- well designed, alas, to stimulate
sado-masochistic imaginings -- offered them an exceptional field of action.
We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half swindlers and half
fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation; we have known others of
them -- authentic deportees -- whose sick minds strove to go even beyond the
monstrosities that they had seen or that people said had happened to them.
There have been publishers to print some of their imaginings, and more or
less official compilations to use them, but publishers and compilers are
absolutely inexcusable, since the most elementary inquiry would have been
enough to reveal the imposture.
Tillion lacked the courage to give examples and names. But that is usually
the case. People agree that there are false gas chambers that tourists and
pilgrims are encouraged to visit, but they do not tell us where. They agree
that there are false "eyewitnesses," but in general they name only Martin
Gray, the well-known swindler, at whose request Max Gallo, with full
knowledge of what he was doing, fabricated the bestseller For Those I Loved.
Jean-François Steiner is sometimes named as well. His bestselling novel
Treblinka (1966) was presented as a work of which the accuracy of every
detail was guaranteed by oral or written testimony. In reality it was a
fabrication attributable, at least in part, to the novelist Gilles Perrault.
[10] Marek Halter, for his part, published his La Mémoire d'Abraham in 1983;
as he often does on radio, he talked there about his experiences in the
Warsaw ghetto. However, if we are to believe an article by Nicolas Beau that
is quite favorable to Halter, [11] little Marek, about three years old, and
his mother left Warsaw not in 1941 but in October of 1939, before the
establishment of the ghetto there by the Germans. Halter's book is supposed
to have been actually written by a ghost writer, Jean-Noël Gurgan.
Filip Müller is the author of Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas
Chambers, [12] which won the 1980 prize of the International League against
Racism and Anti-Semitism (LICRA). This nauseous best-seller is actually the
work of a German ghost writer, Helmut Freitag, who did not hesitate to
engage in plagiarism. [13] The source of the plagiarism is Auschwitz: A
Doctor's Eyewitness Account, another best-seller made up out of whole cloth
and attributed to Miklos Nyiszli. [14]
Thus a whole series of works presented as authentic documents turns out to
be merely compilations attributable to various ghost writers: Max Gallo,
Gilles Perrault, Jean-Noël Gurgan (?), and Helmut Freitag, among others.
We would like to know what Germaine Tillion thinks about Elie Wiesel today.
With him the lie is certainly not gratuitous. Wiesel claims to be full of
love for humanity. However, he does not refrain from an appeal to hatred. In
his opinion: [15]
Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate --
healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies and for what
persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the dead.
At the beginning of 1986, 83 deputies of the German Bundestag took the
initiative of proposing Wiesel for the Nobel Peace Prize. This would be,
they said, "a great encouragement to all who are active in the process of
reconciliation." [16] That is what might be called "going from National
Socialism to national masochism."
Jimmy Carter needed a historian to preside over the President's Commission
on the Holocaust. As Dr. Arthur Butz said so well, he chose not a historian
but a "histrion": Elie Wiesel. Even the newspaper Le Monde, in the article
mentioned above, was obliged to refer to the histrionic trait that certain
persons deplore in Wiesel:
Naturally, even among those who approve of the struggle of this American
Jewish writer, who was discovered by the Catholic François Mauriac, some
reproach him for having too much of a tendency to change the Jewish sadness
into "morbidity" or to become the high priest of a "planned management of
the Holocaust."
As Jewish writer Leon A. Jick has written: "The devastating barb, 'There is
no business like SHOAH-business' is, sad to say, a recognizable truth." [17]
Elie Wiesel issues alarmed and inflammatory appeals against Revisionist
authors. He senses that things are getting out of hand. It is going to
become more and more difficult for him to maintain the mad belief that the
Jews were exterminated or were subjected to a policy of extermination,
especially in so-called gas chambers. Serge Klarsfeld has admitted that real
proofs of the existence of the gas chambers have still not yet been
published. He promises proofs. [18]
On the scholarly plane, the gas chamber myth is finished. To tell the truth,
that myth breathed its last breath several years ago at the Sorbonne
colloquium in Paris (June 29-July 2, 1982), at which Raymond Aron and
François Furet presided. What remains is to make this news known to the
general public. However, for Elie Wiesel it is of the highest importance to
conceal that news. Thus all the fuss in the media, which is going to
increase: the more the journalists talk, the more the historians keep quiet.
But there are historians who dare to raise their voices against the lies and
the hatred. That is the case with Michel de Boüard, wartime member of the
Resistance, deportee to Mauthausen, member of the Committee for the History
of the Second World War from 1945 to 1981, and a member of the Institut de
France. In a poignant interview in 1986, he courageously acknowledged that
in 1954 he had vouched for the existence of a gas chamber at Mauthausen
where, it finally turns out, there never was one. [19]
The respect owed to the sufferings of all the victims of the Second World
War, and, in particular, to the sufferings of the deportees, demands on the
part of historians a return to the proven and time-honored methods of
historical criticism.
Summary
Elie Wiesel passes for one of the most celebrated eyewitnesses to the
alleged Holocaust. Yet in his supposedly autobiographical book Night, he
makes no mention of gas chambers. He claims instead to have witnessed Jews
being burned alive, a story now dismissed by all historians. Wiesel gives
credence to the most absurd stories of other "eyewitnesses." He spreads
fantastic tales of 10,000 persons sent to their deaths each day in
Buchenwald.
When Elie Wiesel and his father, as Auschwitz prisoners, had the choice of
either leaving with their retreating German "executioners," or remaining
behind in the camp to await the Soviet "liberators," the two decided to
leave with their German captors.
It is time, in the name of truth and out of respect for the genuine
sufferings of the victims of the Second World War, that historians return to
the proven methods of historical criticism, and that the testimony of the
Holocaust "eyewitnesses" be subjected to rigorous scrutiny rather than
unquestioning acceptance.
Notes
1. Le Monde, October 17, 1986. Front page.
2. There is one single allusion, extremely vague and fleeting, on pages
78-79: Wiesel, who very much likes to have conversations with God, says to
Him: "But these men here, whom You have betrayed, whom You have allowed to
be tortured, butchered, gassed, burned, what do they do? They pray before
you!" (Night, New York, Discus/Avon Books, 1969, p. 79). In his preface to
that same book, François Mauriac mentioned "the gas chamber and the
crematory" (p. 8). The four crucial pages of "testimony" by Elie Wiesel are
reproduced in facsimile in: Pierre Guillaume, Droit et Histoire (La Vieille
Taupe, 1986), pp. 147-150. In the German-language edition of Night (Die
Nacht zu begraben, Elischa [Ullstein, 1962]), on 14 occasions the word
"crematory" or "crematories" has been falsely given as "Gaskammer" ("gas
chamber[s]"). In January of 1945, in anticipation of a Russian takeover, the
Germans were evacuating Auschwitz. Elie Wiesel, a young teenager at the
time, was hospitalized in Birkenau (the "extermination camp") after surgery
on an infected foot. His doctor had recommended two weeks of rest and good
food but, before his foot healed, the Russian takeover became imminent.
Hospital patients were considered unfit for the long trip to the camps in
Germany and Elie thus could have remained at Birkenau to await the Russians.
Although his father had permission to stay with him as a hospital patient or
orderly, father and son talked it over and decided to move out with the
Germans. (See Night, p. 93. See also D. Calder, The Sunday Sun [Toronto,
Canada], May 31, 1987, p. C4.)
3. See the US War Refugee Board Report, German Extermination Camps:
Auschwitz and Birkenau (Washington, DC), November 1944.
4. See Nuremberg document PS-3311 (USA-293). Published in the IMT "blue
series," Vol. 32, pp. 153-158.
5. See the report in Pravda, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 4, and the UP report in the
Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 2.
6. Night (Avon/Discus). See esp. pp. 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 93.
7. Paroles d'étranger (Editions du Seuil, 1982), p. 86.
8. "Author, Teacher, Witness," Time magazine, March 18, 1985, p. 79.
9. "Le Système concentrationnaire allemand [1940-1944]," Revue d'histoire de
la Deuxième Guerre mondiale, July 1954, p. 18, n. 2.
10. Le Journal du Dimanche, March 30, 1985, p. 5.
11. Libération, Jan. 24, 1986, p. 19.
12. Published by Stein and Day (New York). Paperback edition of 1984. (xii +
180 pages.) With a foreword by Yehuda Bauer of the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry, Hebrew University, Jerusalem.
13. Carlo Mattogno, Auschwitz: un caso di plagio, Parma (Italy): 1986. See
also: C. Mattogno, "Auschwitz: A Case of Plagiarism," The Journal of
Historical Review, Spring 1990, pp. 5-24.
14. Paperback edition, 1961, and later, published by Fawcett Crest (New
York).
15. Legends of Our Time (chapter 12: "Appointment with Hate"), New York:
Schocken Books, 1982, p. 142, or, New York: Avon, 1968, pp. 177-178.
16. The Week in Germany (published in New York by the German government in
Bonn), Jan. 31, 1986, p. 2.
17. "The Holocaust: Its Use and Abuse Within the American Public," Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), 1981, p. 316.
18. VSD, May 29, 1986, p. 37.
19. Ouest-France, August 2-3, 1986, p. 6.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/wiesel.shtml
Weasel's obviously a lying jew *****. What better person to head a
country full of lying jew bastards?
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29 Oct 2006 06:26:41 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:46:18 +0100, "Heinrich"
<Heinrich@Ruhrgasnet.tk> wrote:
Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has suggested Elie Wiesel to replace
Moshe Katzav as President of Israel. Katzav is being forced to resign amid
charges of rape. Wiesel's qualifications for the job are unimpeachable. He
is the icon of what Norman Finkelstein has called "The Holocaust Industry'
and as such he has served as a prop to "get the Jewish vote" by every
American President since Gerald Ford... In 1948 Wiesel worked as a
journalist for the Irgun, a gang of Jewish terrorists who committed the
massacre at Deir Yassin, arguably one of the most pivotal events in
twentieth century Palestinian history. Yet this "world-renowned
humanitarian" refuses to apologize or even acknowledge the murder, mayhem,
and ethnic cleansing caused by his employer.
A Prominent False Witness: Elie Wiesel - By Robert Faurisson
Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally accepted as
a
witness to the Jewish "Holocaust," and, more specifically, as a witness to
the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers. The Paris daily Le Monde
emphasized at the time that Wiesel was awarded the Nobel Prize because:
[1]
These last years have seen, in the name of so-called "historical
revisionism," the elaboration of theses, especially in France, questioning
the existence of the Nazi gas chambers and, perhaps beyond that, of the
genocide of the Jews itself.
But in what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas chambers?
By
what right does he ask us to believe in that means of extermination? In an
autobiographical book that supposedly describes his experiences at
Auschwitz
and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the gas chambers. [2] He does indeed
say
that the Germans executed Jews, but ... by fire; by throwing them alive
into
flaming ditches, before the very eyes of the deportees! No less than that!
Here Wiesel the false witness had some bad luck. Forced to choose from
among
several Allied war propaganda lies, he chose to defend the fire lie
instead
of the boiling water, gassing, or electrocution lies. In 1956, when he
published his testimony in Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in
certain
circles. This lie is the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no
longer a single historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The
myths of the boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared.
Only
the gas remains.
The gassing lie was spread by the Americans. [3] The lie that Jews were
killed by boiling water or steam (specifically at Treblinka) was spread by
the Poles. [4] The electrocution lie was spread by the Soviets. [5]
The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war
propaganda or hate propaganda. In his memoir, Night, which is a version of
his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports that at Auschwitz there was
one flaming ditch for the adults and another one for babies. He writes:
[6]
Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They
were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its
load --
little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it -- saw it with my own eyes ...
Those
children in the flames. (Is it surprising that I could not sleep after
that?
Sleep has fled from my eyes.)
A little farther on there was another ditch with gigantic flames where the
victims suffered "slow agony in the flames." Wiesel's column was led by
the
Germans to within "three steps" of the ditch, then to "two steps." "Two
steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left and made to go into
a
barracks."
An exceptional witness himself, Wiesel assures us of his having met other
exceptional witnesses. Regarding Babi Yar, a place in Ukraine where the
Germans executed Soviet citizens, among them Jews, Wiesel wrote: [7]
Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
never
stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted
from it.
These words did not slip from their author in a moment of frenzy: first,
he
wrote them, then some unspecified number of times (but at least once) he
had
to reread them in the proofs; finally, his words were translated into
various languages, as is everything this author writes.
That Wiesel personally survived, was, of course, the result of a miracle.
He
says that: [8]
In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 persons to their deaths each day. I was
always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?
In 1954 French scholar Germaine Tillion analyzed the "gratuitous lie" with
regard to the German concentration camps. She wrote: [9]
Those persons [who gratuitously lie] are, to tell the truth, much more
numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the
concentration camp world -- well designed, alas, to stimulate
sado-masochistic imaginings -- offered them an exceptional field of
action.
We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half swindlers and half
fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation; we have known others of
them -- authentic deportees -- whose sick minds strove to go even beyond
the
monstrosities that they had seen or that people said had happened to them.
There have been publishers to print some of their imaginings, and more or
less official compilations to use them, but publishers and compilers are
absolutely inexcusable, since the most elementary inquiry would have been
enough to reveal the imposture.
Tillion lacked the courage to give examples and names. But that is usually
the case. People agree that there are false gas chambers that tourists and
pilgrims are encouraged to visit, but they do not tell us where. They
agree
that there are false "eyewitnesses," but in general they name only Martin
Gray, the well-known swindler, at whose request Max Gallo, with full
knowledge of what he was doing, fabricated the bestseller For Those I
Loved.
Jean-François Steiner is sometimes named as well. His bestselling novel
Treblinka (1966) was presented as a work of which the accuracy of every
detail was guaranteed by oral or written testimony. In reality it was a
fabrication attributable, at least in part, to the novelist Gilles
Perrault.
[10] Marek Halter, for his part, published his La Mémoire d'Abraham in
1983;
as he often does on radio, he talked there about his experiences in the
Warsaw ghetto. However, if we are to believe an article by Nicolas Beau
that
is quite favorable to Halter, [11] little Marek, about three years old,
and
his mother left Warsaw not in 1941 but in October of 1939, before the
establishment of the ghetto there by the Germans. Halter's book is
supposed
to have been actually written by a ghost writer, Jean-Noël Gurgan.
Filip Müller is the author of Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas
Chambers, [12] which won the 1980 prize of the International League
against
Racism and Anti-Semitism (LICRA). This nauseous best-seller is actually
the
work of a German ghost writer, Helmut Freitag, who did not hesitate to
engage in plagiarism. [13] The source of the plagiarism is Auschwitz: A
Doctor's Eyewitness Account, another best-seller made up out of whole
cloth
and attributed to Miklos Nyiszli. [14]
Thus a whole series of works presented as authentic documents turns out to
be merely compilations attributable to various ghost writers: Max Gallo,
Gilles Perrault, Jean-Noël Gurgan (?), and Helmut Freitag, among others.
We would like to know what Germaine Tillion thinks about Elie Wiesel
today.
With him the lie is certainly not gratuitous. Wiesel claims to be full of
love for humanity. However, he does not refrain from an appeal to hatred.
In
his opinion: [15]
Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate --
healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies and for what
persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the dead.
At the beginning of 1986, 83 deputies of the German Bundestag took the
initiative of proposing Wiesel for the Nobel Peace Prize. This would be,
they said, "a great encouragement to all who are active in the process of
reconciliation." [16] That is what might be called "going from National
Socialism to national masochism."
Jimmy Carter needed a historian to preside over the President's Commission
on the Holocaust. As Dr. Arthur Butz said so well, he chose not a
historian
but a "histrion": Elie Wiesel. Even the newspaper Le Monde, in the article
mentioned above, was obliged to refer to the histrionic trait that certain
persons deplore in Wiesel:
Naturally, even among those who approve of the struggle of this American
Jewish writer, who was discovered by the Catholic François Mauriac, some
reproach him for having too much of a tendency to change the Jewish
sadness
into "morbidity" or to become the high priest of a "planned management of
the Holocaust."
As Jewish writer Leon A. Jick has written: "The devastating barb, 'There
is
no business like SHOAH-business' is, sad to say, a recognizable truth."
[17]
Elie Wiesel issues alarmed and inflammatory appeals against Revisionist
authors. He senses that things are getting out of hand. It is going to
become more and more difficult for him to maintain the mad belief that the
Jews were exterminated or were subjected to a policy of extermination,
especially in so-called gas chambers. Serge Klarsfeld has admitted that
real
proofs of the existence of the gas chambers have still not yet been
published. He promises proofs. [18]
On the scholarly plane, the gas chamber myth is finished. To tell the
truth,
that myth breathed its last breath several years ago at the Sorbonne
colloquium in Paris (June 29-July 2, 1982), at which Raymond Aron and
François Furet presided. What remains is to make this news known to the
general public. However, for Elie Wiesel it is of the highest importance
to
conceal that news. Thus all the fuss in the media, which is going to
increase: the more the journalists talk, the more the historians keep
quiet.
But there are historians who dare to raise their voices against the lies
and
the hatred. That is the case with Michel de Boüard, wartime member of the
Resistance, deportee to Mauthausen, member of the Committee for the
History
of the Second World War from 1945 to 1981, and a member of the Institut de
France. In a poignant interview in 1986, he courageously acknowledged that
in 1954 he had vouched for the existence of a gas chamber at Mauthausen
where, it finally turns out, there never was one. [19]
The respect owed to the sufferings of all the victims of the Second World
War, and, in particular, to the sufferings of the deportees, demands on
the
part of historians a return to the proven and time-honored methods of
historical criticism.
Summary
Elie Wiesel passes for one of the most celebrated eyewitnesses to the
alleged Holocaust. Yet in his supposedly autobiographical book Night, he
makes no mention of gas chambers. He claims instead to have witnessed Jews
being burned alive, a story now dismissed by all historians. Wiesel gives
credence to the most absurd stories of other "eyewitnesses." He spreads
fantastic tales of 10,000 persons sent to their deaths each day in
Buchenwald.
When Elie Wiesel and his father, as Auschwitz prisoners, had the choice of
either leaving with their retreating German "executioners," or remaining
behind in the camp to await the Soviet "liberators," the two decided to
leave with their German captors.
It is time, in the name of truth and out of respect for the genuine
sufferings of the victims of the Second World War, that historians return
to
the proven methods of historical criticism, and that the testimony of the
Holocaust "eyewitnesses" be subjected to rigorous scrutiny rather than
unquestioning acceptance.
Notes
1. Le Monde, October 17, 1986. Front page.
2. There is one single allusion, extremely vague and fleeting, on pages
78-79: Wiesel, who very much likes to have conversations with God, says to
Him: "But these men here, whom You have betrayed, whom You have allowed to
be tortured, butchered, gassed, burned, what do they do? They pray before
you!" (Night, New York, Discus/Avon Books, 1969, p. 79). In his preface to
that same book, François Mauriac mentioned "the gas chamber and the
crematory" (p. 8). The four crucial pages of "testimony" by Elie Wiesel
are
reproduced in facsimile in: Pierre Guillaume, Droit et Histoire (La
Vieille
Taupe, 1986), pp. 147-150. In the German-language edition of Night (Die
Nacht zu begraben, Elischa [Ullstein, 1962]), on 14 occasions the word
"crematory" or "crematories" has been falsely given as "Gaskammer" ("gas
chamber[s]"). In January of 1945, in anticipation of a Russian takeover,
the
Germans were evacuating Auschwitz. Elie Wiesel, a young teenager at the
time, was hospitalized in Birkenau (the "extermination camp") after
surgery
on an infected foot. His doctor had recommended two weeks of rest and good
food but, before his foot healed, the Russian takeover became imminent.
Hospital patients were considered unfit for the long trip to the camps in
Germany and Elie thus could have remained at Birkenau to await the
Russians.
Although his father had permission to stay with him as a hospital patient
or
orderly, father and son talked it over and decided to move out with the
Germans. (See Night, p. 93. See also D. Calder, The Sunday Sun [Toronto,
Canada], May 31, 1987, p. C4.)
3. See the US War Refugee Board Report, German Extermination Camps:
Auschwitz and Birkenau (Washington, DC), November 1944.
4. See Nuremberg document PS-3311 (USA-293). Published in the IMT "blue
series," Vol. 32, pp. 153-158.
5. See the report in Pravda, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 4, and the UP report in the
Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 2.
6. Night (Avon/Discus). See esp. pp. 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 93.
7. Paroles d'étranger (Editions du Seuil, 1982), p. 86.
8. "Author, Teacher, Witness," Time magazine, March 18, 1985, p. 79.
9. "Le Système concentrationnaire allemand [1940-1944]," Revue d'histoire
de
la Deuxième Guerre mondiale, July 1954, p. 18, n. 2.
10. Le Journal du Dimanche, March 30, 1985, p. 5.
11. Libération, Jan. 24, 1986, p. 19.
12. Published by Stein and Day (New York). Paperback edition of 1984. (xii
+
180 pages.) With a foreword by Yehuda Bauer of the Institute of
Contemporary
Jewry, Hebrew University, Jerusalem.
13. Carlo Mattogno, Auschwitz: un caso di plagio, Parma (Italy): 1986. See
also: C. Mattogno, "Auschwitz: A Case of Plagiarism," The Journal of
Historical Review, Spring 1990, pp. 5-24.
14. Paperback edition, 1961, and later, published by Fawcett Crest (New
York).
15. Legends of Our Time (chapter 12: "Appointment with Hate"), New York:
Schocken Books, 1982, p. 142, or, New York: Avon, 1968, pp. 177-178.
16. The Week in Germany (published in New York by the German government in
Bonn), Jan. 31, 1986, p. 2.
17. "The Holocaust: Its Use and Abuse Within the American Public," Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), 1981, p. 316.
18. VSD, May 29, 1986, p. 37.
19. Ouest-France, August 2-3, 1986, p. 6.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/wiesel.shtml
Weasel's obviously a lying jew *****. What better person to head a
country full of lying jew bastards?
Benjamin Wiesel for president !!!!
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Heinrich wrote:
"The Re'vr''ddd" <reniggade@anglikkkoon.com.za> schreef in bericht
news:45449323.3750022@news.onetel.net.uk...
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:46:18 +0100, "Heinrich"
<Heinrich@Ruhrgasnet.tk> wrote:
Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has suggested Elie Wiesel to replace
Moshe Katzav as President of Israel. Katzav is being forced to resign amid
charges of rape. Wiesel's qualifications for the job are unimpeachable. He
is the icon of what Norman Finkelstein has called "The Holocaust Industry'
and as such he has served as a prop to "get the Jewish vote" by every
American President since Gerald Ford... In 1948 Wiesel worked as a
journalist for the Irgun, a gang of Jewish terrorists who committed the
massacre at Deir Yassin, arguably one of the most pivotal events in
twentieth century Palestinian history. Yet this "world-renowned
humanitarian" refuses to apologize or even acknowledge the murder, mayhem,
and ethnic cleansing caused by his employer.
A Prominent False Witness: Elie Wiesel - By Robert Faurisson
Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally accepted as
a
witness to the Jewish "Holocaust," and, more specifically, as a witness to
the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers. The Paris daily Le Monde
emphasized at the time that Wiesel was awarded the Nobel Prize because:
[1]
These last years have seen, in the name of so-called "historical
revisionism," the elaboration of theses, especially in France, questioning
the existence of the Nazi gas chambers and, perhaps beyond that, of the
genocide of the Jews itself.
But in what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas chambers?
By
what right does he ask us to believe in that means of extermination? In an
autobiographical book that supposedly describes his experiences at
Auschwitz
and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the gas chambers. [2] He does indeed
say
that the Germans executed Jews, but ... by fire; by throwing them alive
into
flaming ditches, before the very eyes of the deportees! No less than that!
Here Wiesel the false witness had some bad luck. Forced to choose from
among
several Allied war propaganda lies, he chose to defend the fire lie
instead
of the boiling water, gassing, or electrocution lies. In 1956, when he
published his testimony in Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in
certain
circles. This lie is the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no
longer a single historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The
myths of the boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared.
Only
the gas remains.
The gassing lie was spread by the Americans. [3] The lie that Jews were
killed by boiling water or steam (specifically at Treblinka) was spread by
the Poles. [4] The electrocution lie was spread by the Soviets. [5]
The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war
propaganda or hate propaganda. In his memoir, Night, which is a version of
his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports that at Auschwitz there was
one flaming ditch for the adults and another one for babies. He writes:
[6]
Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They
were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its
load --
little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it -- saw it with my own eyes ...
Those
children in the flames. (Is it surprising that I could not sleep after
that?
Sleep has fled from my eyes.)
A little farther on there was another ditch with gigantic flames where the
victims suffered "slow agony in the flames." Wiesel's column was led by
the
Germans to within "three steps" of the ditch, then to "two steps." "Two
steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left and made to go into
a
barracks."
An exceptional witness himself, Wiesel assures us of his having met other
exceptional witnesses. Regarding Babi Yar, a place in Ukraine where the
Germans executed Soviet citizens, among them Jews, Wiesel wrote: [7]
Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
never
stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted
from it.
These words did not slip from their author in a moment of frenzy: first,
he
wrote them, then some unspecified number of times (but at least once) he
had
to reread them in the proofs; finally, his words were translated into
various languages, as is everything this author writes.
That Wiesel personally survived, was, of course, the result of a miracle.
He
says that: [8]
In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 persons to their deaths each day. I was
always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?
In 1954 French scholar Germaine Tillion analyzed the "gratuitous lie" with
regard to the German concentration camps. She wrote: [9]
Those persons [who gratuitously lie] are, to tell the truth, much more
numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the
concentration camp world -- well designed, alas, to stimulate
sado-masochistic imaginings -- offered them an exceptional field of
action.
We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half swindlers and half
fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation; we have known others of
them -- authentic deportees -- whose sick minds strove to go even beyond
the
monstrosities that they had seen or that people said had happened to them.
There have been publishers to print some of their imaginings, and more or
less official compilations to use them, but publishers and compilers are
absolutely inexcusable, since the most elementary inquiry would have been
enough to reveal the imposture.
Tillion lacked the courage to give examples and names. But that is usually
the case. People agree that there are false gas chambers that tourists and
pilgrims are encouraged to visit, but they do not tell us where. They
agree
that there are false "eyewitnesses," but in general they name only Martin
Gray, the well-known swindler, at whose request Max Gallo, with full
knowledge of what he was doing, fabricated the bestseller For Those I
Loved.
Jean-François Steiner is sometimes named as well. His bestselling novel
Treblinka (1966) was presented as a work of which the accuracy of every
detail was guaranteed by oral or written testimony. In reality it was a
fabrication attributable, at least in part, to the novelist Gilles
Perrault.
[10] Marek Halter, for his part, published his La Mémoire d'Abraham in
1983;
as he often does on radio, he talked there about his experiences in the
Warsaw ghetto. However, if we are to believe an article by Nicolas Beau
that
is quite favorable to Halter, [11] little Marek, about three years old,
and
his mother left Warsaw not in 1941 but in October of 1939, before the
establishment of the ghetto there by the Germans. Halter's book is
supposed
to have been actually written by a ghost writer, Jean-Noël Gurgan.
Filip Müller is the author of Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas
Chambers, [12] which won the 1980 prize of the International League
against
Racism and Anti-Semitism (LICRA). This nauseous best-seller is actually
the
work of a German ghost writer, Helmut Freitag, who did not hesitate to
engage in plagiarism. [13] The source of the plagiarism is Auschwitz: A
Doctor's Eyewitness Account, another best-seller made up out of whole
cloth
and attributed to Miklos Nyiszli. [14]
Thus a whole series of works presented as authentic documents turns out to
be merely compilations attributable to various ghost writers: Max Gallo,
Gilles Perrault, Jean-Noël Gurgan (?), and Helmut Freitag, among others.
We would like to know what Germaine Tillion thinks about Elie Wiesel
today.
With him the lie is certainly not gratuitous. Wiesel claims to be full of
love for humanity. However, he does not refrain from an appeal to hatred.
In
his opinion: [15]
Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate --
healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies and for what
persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the dead.
At the beginning of 1986, 83 deputies of the German Bundestag took the
initiative of proposing Wiesel for the Nobel Peace Prize. This would be,
they said, "a great encouragement to all who are active in the process of
reconciliation." [16] That is what might be called "going from National
Socialism to national masochism."
Jimmy Carter needed a historian to preside over the President's Commission
on the Holocaust. As Dr. Arthur Butz said so well, he chose not a
historian
but a "histrion": Elie Wiesel. Even the newspaper Le Monde, in the article
mentioned above, was obliged to refer to the histrionic trait that certain
persons deplore in Wiesel:
Naturally, even among those who approve of the struggle of this American
Jewish writer, who was discovered by the Catholic François Mauriac, some
reproach him for having too much of a tendency to change the Jewish
sadness
into "morbidity" or to become the high priest of a "planned management of
the Holocaust."
As Jewish writer Leon A. Jick has written: "The devastating barb, 'There
is
no business like SHOAH-business' is, sad to say, a recognizable truth."
[17]
Elie Wiesel issues alarmed and inflammatory appeals against Revisionist
authors. He senses that things are getting out of hand. It is going to
become more and more difficult for him to maintain the mad belief that the
Jews were exterminated or were subjected to a policy of extermination,
especially in so-called gas chambers. Serge Klarsfeld has admitted that
real
proofs of the existence of the gas chambers have still not yet been
published. He promises proofs. [18]
On the scholarly plane, the gas chamber myth is finished. To tell the
truth,
that myth breathed its last breath several years ago at the Sorbonne
colloquium in Paris (June 29-July 2, 1982), at which Raymond Aron and
François Furet presided. What remains is to make this news known to the
general public. However, for Elie Wiesel it is of the highest importance
to
conceal that news. Thus all the fuss in the media, which is going to
increase: the more the journalists talk, the more the historians keep
quiet.
But there are historians who dare to raise their voices against the lies
and
the hatred. That is the case with Michel de Boüard, wartime member of the
Resistance, deportee to Mauthausen, member of the Committee for the
History
of the Second World War from 1945 to 1981, and a member of the Institut de
France. In a poignant interview in 1986, he courageously acknowledged that
in 1954 he had vouched for the existence of a gas chamber at Mauthausen
where, it finally turns out, there never was one. [19]
The respect owed to the sufferings of all the victims of the Second World
War, and, in particular, to the sufferings of the deportees, demands on
the
part of historians a return to the proven and time-honored methods of
historical criticism.
Summary
Elie Wiesel passes for one of the most celebrated eyewitnesses to the
alleged Holocaust. Yet in his supposedly autobiographical book Night, he
makes no mention of gas chambers. He claims instead to have witnessed Jews
being burned alive, a story now dismissed by all historians. Wiesel gives
credence to the most absurd stories of other "eyewitnesses." He spreads
fantastic tales of 10,000 persons sent to their deaths each day in
Buchenwald.
When Elie Wiesel and his father, as Auschwitz prisoners, had the choice of
either leaving with their retreating German "executioners," or remaining
behind in the camp to await the Soviet "liberators," the two decided to
leave with their German captors.
It is time, in the name of truth and out of respect for the genuine
sufferings of the victims of the Second World War, that historians return
to
the proven methods of historical criticism, and that the testimony of the
Holocaust "eyewitnesses" be subjected to rigorous scrutiny rather than
unquestioning acceptance.
Notes
1. Le Monde, October 17, 1986. Front page.
2. There is one single allusion, extremely vague and fleeting, on pages
78-79: Wiesel, who very much likes to have conversations with God, says to
Him: "But these men here, whom You have betrayed, whom You have allowed to
be tortured, butchered, gassed, burned, what do they do? They pray before
you!" (Night, New York, Discus/Avon Books, 1969, p. 79). In his preface to
that same book, François Mauriac mentioned "the gas chamber and the
crematory" (p. 8). The four crucial pages of "testimony" by Elie Wiesel
are
reproduced in facsimile in: Pierre Guillaume, Droit et Histoire (La
Vieille
Taupe, 1986), pp. 147-150. In the German-language edition of Night (Die
Nacht zu begraben, Elischa [Ullstein, 1962]), on 14 occasions the word
"crematory" or "crematories" has been falsely given as "Gaskammer" ("gas
chamber[s]"). In January of 1945, in anticipation of a Russian takeover,
the
Germans were evacuating Auschwitz. Elie Wiesel, a young teenager at the
time, was hospitalized in Birkenau (the "extermination camp") after
surgery
on an infected foot. His doctor had recommended two weeks of rest and good
food but, before his foot healed, the Russian takeover became imminent.
Hospital patients were considered unfit for the long trip to the camps in
Germany and Elie thus could have remained at Birkenau to await the
Russians.
Although his father had permission to stay with him as a hospital patient
or
orderly, father and son talked it over and decided to move out with the
Germans. (See Night, p. 93. See also D. Calder, The Sunday Sun [Toronto,
Canada], May 31, 1987, p. C4.)
3. See the US War Refugee Board Report, German Extermination Camps:
Auschwitz and Birkenau (Washington, DC), November 1944.
4. See Nuremberg document PS-3311 (USA-293). Published in the IMT "blue
series," Vol. 32, pp. 153-158.
5. See the report in Pravda, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 4, and the UP report in the
Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, p. 2.
6. Night (Avon/Discus). See esp. pp. 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 93.
7. Paroles d'étranger (Editions du Seuil, 1982), p. 86.
8. "Author, Teacher, Witness," Time magazine, March 18, 1985, p. 79.
9. "Le Système concentrationnaire allemand [1940-1944]," Revue d'histoire
de
la Deuxième Guerre mondiale, July 1954, p. 18, n. 2.
10. Le Journal du Dimanche, March 30, 1985, p. 5.
11. Libération, Jan. 24, 1986, p. 19.
12. Published by Stein and Day (New York). Paperback edition of 1984. (xii
+
180 pages.) With a foreword by Yehuda Bauer of the Institute of
Contemporary
Jewry, Hebrew University, Jerusalem.
13. Carlo Mattogno, Auschwitz: un caso di plagio, Parma (Italy): 1986. See
also: C. Mattogno, "Auschwitz: A Case of Plagiarism," The Journal of
Historical Review, Spring 1990, pp. 5-24.
14. Paperback edition, 1961, and later, published by Fawcett Crest (New
York).
15. Legends of Our Time (chapter 12: "Appointment with Hate"), New York:
Schocken Books, 1982, p. 142, or, New York: Avon, 1968, pp. 177-178.
16. The Week in Germany (published in New York by the German government in
Bonn), Jan. 31, 1986, p. 2.
17. "The Holocaust: Its Use and Abuse Within the American Public," Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), 1981, p. 316.
18. VSD, May 29, 1986, p. 37.
19. Ouest-France, August 2-3, 1986, p. 6.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/wiesel.shtml
Weasel's obviously a lying jew *****. What better person to head a
country full of lying jew bastards?
Benjamin Wiesel for president !!!!
Heh! Heh~! Such a wonderful President for such a wonderful State! ...Now
I am lying! ;-p
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