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"Craig Chilton" |
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31 Jan 2004 06:55:28 PM |
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Re: Ugly homosexuality |
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
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Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
The only UGLINESS pertaining to that is the loathsome
ugliness of the hateful, and *profoundly*-ignorant nature of the
unconscionable bigots who are attempting (UNsuccessfully,
fortunately) to spread their poisonous vileness to the minds of
decent people. Fortunately for America, MOST of its citizens
are far too **intelligent** to fall for such idiotic deceptions.
Thus, the agenda of those bigots is well on the read toward
their well deserved death spiral down the Drain of Extinction,
to join other such bigoted agendas in America since 1865
that already lie in eternal repose, never to be resurrected ---
-- Slavery -- EXTINCT
-- Opposition to Women's Suffage -- EXTINCT
-- Prohibition -- EXTINCT
-- Opposition to Birth-Control Pill -- EXTINCT
-- Segregation -- EXTINCT
-- Anti-Semitism -- ENDANGERED (Thankfully)
-- Anti-Choice (abortion) -- LAUGHINGSTOCK STATUS
-- Opposition to EQUAL Rights for Gays -- FADING FAST
Segregationists were a JOKE (i.e., "laughingstock status")
during the last few years before it became extinct. As opposition
to EQUAL rights for gays (with respect to housing, being parents,
marriage, and employment) continues to fade, the remaining
opponents first will become laughingstocks, and then that
hatefulness will end in extinction. Constant consciousness-raising,
as we saw awhile back on a "Primetime Thursday" episode on
ABC, featuring Rosie O'Donnell, is very helpful. (MOST of the
reporters and commentators in the MEDIA are INTELLIGENT...
with occasional exceptions, like George Will, who has a good IQ,
but wastes it on hyperconservatism.)
Historical precedents have CONSISTENTLY proven that
Americans OUTGROW movements of intolerance (such as ALL
of the above), and then REJECT them -- leaving them behind
FOREVER.
And THAT is EXTINCTION.
Good riddance to VERY putrid rubbish!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Alan McIntire" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
08 Feb 2004 10:26:39 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
08 Feb 2004 10:30:44 AM |
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(Alan McIntire) wrote in
news:f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com:
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects
up your *****.
can you tell readers more about your experiences in this area.
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| User: "Clay Colwell" |
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09 Feb 2004 10:14:57 AM |
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(Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
I welcome your campaign to rid the world of suppositories.
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
09 Feb 2004 11:32:52 AM |
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(Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
Lesbians are homosexual, and probably not many of them do what you
just described. You seem fixated on the male homosexual specifically.
I wonder why.
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| User: "Alan McIntire" |
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14 Feb 2004 09:44:03 AM |
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(Brent Norman) wrote in message news:<a7ad4b4f.0402090932.738b1688@posting.google.com>...
alanmc95210@yahoo.com (Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
Lesbians are homosexual, and probably not many of them do what you
just described. You seem fixated on the male homosexual specifically.
I wonder why.
Because male homosexual practices are a whole hell of a lot more
dangerous to the persons involved- Alan McIntire
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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14 Feb 2004 12:38:11 PM |
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(Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402140744.45e9d1b9@posting.google.com>...
nelliganemile@hotmail.com (Brent Norman) wrote in message news:<a7ad4b4f.0402090932.738b1688@posting.google.com>...
(Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
Lesbians are homosexual, and probably not many of them do what you
just described. You seem fixated on the male homosexual specifically.
I wonder why.
Because male homosexual practices are a whole hell of a lot more
dangerous to the persons involved- Alan McIntire
I'm assuming you are referring the sexual practices, and not practices
in general.
Unless one of the parties involved is infected with something prior to
sexual activity, there is no risk of infection.
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| User: "Alan McIntire" |
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04 Mar 2004 07:16:53 PM |
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(Brent Norman) wrote in message news:<a7ad4b4f.0402141038.726c6693@posting.google.com>...
alanmc95210@yahoo.com (Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402140744.45e9d1b9@posting.google.com>...
(Brent Norman) wrote in message news:<a7ad4b4f.0402090932.738b1688@posting.google.com>...
alanmc95210@yahoo.com (Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402080826.588ec15e@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40274ca7.14084194@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 31 Jan 2004 16:31:07 -0800,
"The Nice Mean Man" [Oxymoron BY
a Moron) <HitherandYon@msn.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
Lesbians are homosexual, and probably not many of them do what you
just described. You seem fixated on the male homosexual specifically.
I wonder why.
Because male homosexual practices are a whole hell of a lot more
dangerous to the persons involved- Alan McIntire
I'm assuming you are referring the sexual practices, and not practices
in general.
Unless one of the parties involved is infected with something prior to
sexual activity, there is no risk of infection.
There are plenty of germs and bacteria in the air, which get on
everyone.
The intestines are built to ABSORB the food we eat- they are not
built to withstand a humping, as is the vagina. Intestines tear
easily, and people indulging in anal sex pick up a lot more infections
than the general population.- A. McIntire
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
08 Feb 2004 01:34:51 PM |
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Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Fitzdraco" |
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09 Feb 2004 03:31:15 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your
*****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
A related to overeating story. Some guy decided to see what the effects of
an all McDonalds diet would do to you. He went to his doctor and got a clean
bill of health and then went and ate at Mcdonalds for a month. Breakfast,
lunch and dinner. He went back to the doctor and he was something like 25
lbs overweight and his general health was shot. It took him 6 months to get
back to normal health and he is still not down to his old weight. No word on
weather McDonalds is sueing.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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09 Feb 2004 11:29:44 AM |
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"Fitzdraco" <fitzdraco@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<102erp2mc0dn561@corp.supernews.com>...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your
*****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
A related to overeating story. Some guy decided to see what the effects of
an all McDonalds diet would do to you. He went to his doctor and got a clean
bill of health and then went and ate at Mcdonalds for a month. Breakfast,
lunch and dinner. He went back to the doctor and he was something like 25
lbs overweight and his general health was shot. It took him 6 months to get
back to normal health and he is still not down to his old weight. No word on
weather McDonalds is sueing.
No reason why they should, and every reason why they should not.
First, the man did it to himself, and of his own free will. Second,
he did it under a doctor's supervision. And third, the man is not
suing them.
If McDonald's did try to sue him, he could file a SLAPP suit, stating
that McDonalds was trying to quash valid research. And the man would
probably win, or at least not lose the suit that McDonalds brought.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Alan McIntire" |
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14 Feb 2004 09:47:22 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior. True, the absolute number of
people harmed by anal sex is small, but that's because only somewhere
between 1 and 3% of males indulge in this behavior. If you compare
precentages involved, the precentage of people who practice anal sex
and are harmed by it is pretty high- Alan McIntire
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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14 Feb 2004 09:54:12 AM |
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"Alan McIntire" <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f8a02e9a.0402140747.588c1df6@posting.google.com...
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up
your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior. True, the absolute number of
people harmed by anal sex is small, but that's because only somewhere
between 1 and 3% of males indulge in this behavior. If you compare
precentages involved, the precentage of people who practice anal sex
and are harmed by it is pretty high- Alan McIntire
25% of heterosexuals also engage in anal sex.
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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14 Feb 2004 12:56:15 PM |
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(Alan McIntire) wrote in message news:<f8a02e9a.0402140747.588c1df6@posting.google.com>...
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire < > wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior. True, the absolute number of
people harmed by anal sex is small, but that's because only somewhere
between 1 and 3% of males indulge in this behavior. If you compare
precentages involved, the precentage of people who practice anal sex
and are harmed by it is pretty high- Alan McIntire
Don't forget that anal sex is also practiced by heterosexuals.
So you would shut up if homosexual men simply ceased to engage in anal
sex? Some homosexual males couples don't find it appealing, I know
some.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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14 Feb 2004 12:38:06 PM |
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Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior.
So does everybody. By singling out homosexuals you merely reveal your
own prejudices.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Jon Young" |
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14 Feb 2004 05:20:18 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0lpud$8j0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior.
So does everybody. By singling out homosexuals you merely reveal your
own prejudices.
Is that your favorite catch phrase.Any intelligent person knows that
you run a much higher risk of disease or death sticking dicks up your
*****, than eating too many hamburgers. Do the world a favor; you and
Craig Chilcott should spend a week-end screwing,humping, cornholing,
and piercing each others every orafice and than share with the world
whatever various diseases you each contract.
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| User: "Matt Pillsbury" |
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15 Feb 2004 01:21:28 PM |
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(Jon Young) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c0lpud$8j0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that
male homosexuals indulge in risky behavior.
So does everybody. By singling out homosexuals you merely reveal
your own prejudices.
Is that your favorite catch phrase.Any intelligent person knows that
you run a much higher risk of disease or death sticking dicks up
your *****, than eating too many hamburgers. Do the world a favor; you
and Craig Chilcott should spend a week-end screwing,humping,
cornholing, and piercing each others every orafice and than share
with the world whatever various diseases you each contract.
You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about men having sex with
other men.
Why is that?
--
Matt Pillsbury "Would you mind having a little
pillsy[at]mac[dot]com consideration for others?"
--golddodgearies
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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14 Feb 2004 05:37:21 PM |
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(Jon Young) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0lpud$8j0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c0630q$gm0$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Alan McIntire <alanmc95210@yahoo.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton)
Ugly homosexuality...
...is MYTHICAL. Homosexuality is as NORMAL for gay
people as heterosexuality is NORMAL for straight people.
Yeah, it's perfectly normal and healthy to stick foreign objects up
your *****.
The number of people harmed by anal sex is small.
The number of people harmed by overeating is in the tens of millions.
Do you want to make fast food illegal? Imprisonment for anybody 10%
over normal weight?
Or is the reality that you're just an insecure homophobe?
I don't want to make either one illegal. I'm just saying that male
homosexuals indulge in risky behavior.
So does everybody. By singling out homosexuals you merely reveal your
own prejudices.
Is that your favorite catch phrase.Any intelligent person knows that
you run a much higher risk of disease or death sticking dicks up your
*****, than eating too many hamburgers. Do the world a favor; you and
Craig Chilcott should spend a week-end screwing,humping, cornholing,
and piercing each others every orafice and than share with the world
whatever various diseases you each contract.
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though: "any
intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that you have
nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual,
and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits
by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Jon Young" |
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14 Feb 2004 10:06:06 PM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
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One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though: "any
intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that you have
nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual,
and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits
by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
14 Feb 2004 10:28:04 PM |
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(Jon Young) writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though: "any
intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that you
have nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm
heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared
out of my wits by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm
sorry that's something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
Why do I assume you're scared of homosexuals? I guess it's the result of
actually learning to understand English. The nerve of me, taking the trouble
to get an education! You're welcome to your opinions, but don't squeal like
the proverbial stuck pig when others profess opinions you apparently would
rather not hear. I suggest you exercise your right to ignore me, in that
case. Meanwhile, same-sex marriage doesn't bother me in the least. It
doesn't deprive me or my wife of any rights.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 04:57:20 AM |
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(Jon Young) wrote in message news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
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One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though: "any
intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that you have
nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual,
and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits
by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 10:49:59 AM |
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(osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though:
"any intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that
you have nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm
heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not
scared out of my wits by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like
me. I'm sorry that's something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
....like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware who has
evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still insists on
replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 10:58:31 AM |
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In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR fantasy?
Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of ignorance, though:
"any intelligent person knows" doesn't prove anything, except maybe that
you have nothing but your own stupidity to back up your assertions. I'm
heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know* I'm heterosexual, and I'm not
scared out of my wits by the mere existence of anyone who isn't just like
me. I'm sorry that's something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware who has
evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still insists on
replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 12:01:18 PM |
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David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> writes:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR
fantasy? Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of
ignorance, though: "any intelligent person knows" doesn't prove
anything, except maybe that you have nothing but your own stupidity to
back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know*
I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits by the mere
existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware who
has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still insists
on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
Cowardice and stupidity are his raisons d'être, it would appear...but I
suspect he'll forget his orders and go back to dealing with us directly, soon
enough.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 12:07:20 PM |
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In article <szkwu6o9q8h.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> writes:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR
fantasy? Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of
ignorance, though: "any intelligent person knows" doesn't prove
anything, except maybe that you have nothing but your own stupidity to
back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know*
I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits by the mere
existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware who
has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still insists
on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
Cowardice and stupidity are his raisons d'être, it would appear...but I
suspect he'll forget his orders and go back to dealing with us directly, soon
enough.
I hope not - I've enjoyed the time off.
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| User: "Lawrence E. McKnight" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 02:24:36 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:07:20 -0800, David Barnes
<dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <szkwu6o9q8h.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> writes:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR
fantasy? Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of
ignorance, though: "any intelligent person knows" doesn't prove
anything, except maybe that you have nothing but your own stupidity to
back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual, and unlike you, I *know*
I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits by the mere
existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware who
has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still insists
on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
Cowardice and stupidity are his raisons d'être, it would appear...but I
suspect he'll forget his orders and go back to dealing with us directly, soon
enough.
I hope not - I've enjoyed the time off.
Has anybody checked that bulletin board lately? Maybe he is putting
his 'spin' on it there.
-
Larry
(this space unintentionally left blank .....
make obvious deletion for email
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 02:29:59 PM |
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"Lawrence E. McKnight" <lawrence.delete.mcknight@sbcglobal.delete.net> wrote
in message news:3alv201nd7ojda1hh0jb18llqe2qkj9ia1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:07:20 -0800, David Barnes
<dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <szkwu6o9q8h.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> writes:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're
both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR
fantasy? Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of
ignorance, though: "any intelligent person knows" doesn't
prove
anything, except maybe that you have nothing but your own
stupidity to
back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual, and unlike you, I
*know*
I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits by the mere
existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is
not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a
BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe
in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't
believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy
watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a
front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in
Delaware who
has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still
insists
on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit
contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is
so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
Cowardice and stupidity are his raisons d'être, it would appear...but I
suspect he'll forget his orders and go back to dealing with us
directly, soon
enough.
I hope not - I've enjoyed the time off.
Has anybody checked that bulletin board lately? Maybe he is putting
his 'spin' on it there.
Think so?
Well ask Barnes...wait ... I mean a-block
Last time he went on there, after being ignored on here, he was told to grow
up
He made the stupid mistake of going from thread to thread, trying to stir up
crap.
It failed, as his attempts before in there failed.
By all means though, he can keep trying. He gets ignored
Especially after I displayed his hate comments about Correctional Officers,
none of them believe a word he says.
Amazing, one of the moderators emailed me showing the IP address.
Isn't it funny, it matched EXACTLY with the same IP address Barnes uses in
here with the post as "A-block" and Barnes only being a few minutes apart.
The least he could have done was disconnected from his ISP and reconnected
and gotten a new IP address
:o)
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 03:07:11 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
news:PdidnQjxeOYTS7LdRVn-tw@comcast.com:
"Lawrence E. McKnight" <lawrence.delete.mcknight@sbcglobal.delete.net>
wrote in message news:3alv201nd7ojda1hh0jb18llqe2qkj9ia1@4ax.com...
Has anybody checked that bulletin board lately? Maybe he is putting
his 'spin' on it there.
Amazing, one of the moderators emailed me showing the IP address.
why are you lying again about correctional officers adn the staff of their
bulletin board?
"Apparently, you feel that if someone doesn't believe your lies,
that you should continue to screech them over and over in an
attempt to convince someone that what you're saying has any
value. This isn't kindergarten Asspry, and no matter how many
times you screech your lies, they will continue to BE lies."
(pr0r3p) writing to coward osprey (bobby
heishman) in <1686c3b8.0401271759.27fa1e9e@posting.google.com>
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 02:42:32 PM |
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In article <PdidnQjxeOYTS7LdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Lawrence E. McKnight" <lawrence.delete.mcknight@sbcglobal.delete.net> wrote
in message news:3alv201nd7ojda1hh0jb18llqe2qkj9ia1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:07:20 -0800, David Barnes
<dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <szkwu6o9q8h.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> writes:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) writes:
jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message
news:<25e1e54f.0402142006.4be0d0e8@posting.google.com>...
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:<szky8r58c7i.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
One small problem with your rant, Phobe Young -- since they're
both
heterosexual, why would they be interested in catering to YOUR
fantasy? Thanks for giving us a good look at the effects of
ignorance, though: "any intelligent person knows" doesn't
prove
anything, except maybe that you have nothing but your own
stupidity to
back up your assertions. I'm heterosexual, and unlike you, I
*know*
I'm heterosexual, and I'm not scared out of my wits by the mere
existence of anyone who isn't just like me. I'm sorry that's
something you'll never be able to accomplish.
Why do you assume that I am a homophobe? What I question are
statements that sex between gay males is somehow on par with sex
between a man and a woman. To deny that rampant disease is more
prominent amongst gay men in the name of political correctness is
not
only absurd, but purely asinine.My use of derogatory language was
preceeded by every type of profanity and accusation of being a
BIGOT
because I disagree with certain points of view. I do not believe
in
killing babies under any circumstance and I certainly don't
believe in
marriage between members of the same sex. Personally, I enjoy
watching
2 women get it on.Doesn't mean I approve of them getting married.
At least you are honest about yourself and don't need to put up a
front.
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in
Delaware who
has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still
insists
on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit
contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is
so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
It is just another cowardly move for the Cop Reject.
Cowardice and stupidity are his raisons d'être, it would appear...but I
suspect he'll forget his orders and go back to dealing with us
directly, soon
enough.
I hope not - I've enjoyed the time off.
Has anybody checked that bulletin board lately? Maybe he is putting
his 'spin' on it there.
Think so?
Well ask Barnes...wait ... I mean a-block
This is Osprey's new thing. When one of his fellow guards realize what
a piece of ***** he is and calls him on it, Osprey claims it MUST be me.
ROFL!
Last time he went on there, after being ignored on here, he was told to grow
up
He made the stupid mistake of going from thread to thread, trying to stir up
crap.
You are speaking of one of your guard friends here.
It failed, as his attempts before in there failed.
By all means though, he can keep trying. He gets ignored
In other words - no one comes to Opsrey's aid.
Especially after I displayed his hate comments about Correctional Officers,
none of them believe a word he says.
I remember reading some of those replies. They didn't say anything
negative about me - to their credit. YOU, however, were hamburger.
Amazing, one of the moderators emailed me showing the IP address.
L I A RE. Kind of like Hotmail, right?
Isn't it funny, it matched EXACTLY with the same IP address Barnes uses in
here with the post as "A-block" and Barnes only being a few minutes apart.
Kind of like your "kukukuchoo?"
The least he could have done was disconnected from his ISP and reconnected
and gotten a new IP address
MORON - it doesn't work that way. What was the IP address?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 11:24:14 AM |
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David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:150220040858318508%dbarnes111@yahoo.com:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware
who has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still
insists on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
hell, he has already posted that his superiors were ignorant in the
performance of their jobs.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Ugly homosexuality |
15 Feb 2004 11:42:18 AM |
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In article <Xns94907E24FAE55keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.17>, james g.
keegan jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:150220040858318508%dbarnes111@yahoo.com:
In article <szkekswb83s.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
...like a wanna-be cop working at a correctional facility in Delaware
who has evidently been ordered to limit his contacts with me, yet still
insists on replying to others who attack me? *snicker*
He does the same with me. His superiors have told him to limit contact
with us and stop using the States computers for personal use. He is so
angry about it he is fuming. His solution? He replies to those who
reply to me (and apparently you) rather than us directly. Then he
claims he is "ignoring" us. (LOL!) He apparently feels his superiors
are as stupid as he is and won't care.
hell, he has already posted that his superiors were ignorant in the
performance of their jobs.
I agree. It surprises me that he feels the way he does. Apparently he
feels his superiors are so incompetent they don't care what a rogue
wannabe cop does on the world wide Internet.
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