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"Adam H." |
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29 Dec 2003 10:13:36 AM |
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Re: What does pro-choice mean |
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has allowed us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of styles and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing (first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue, the person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the selection made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim it
means.
Yes, it does.
Pro-choice placed together in the dictionary redefines the terms pro and
choice. Creating a misleading and discriminating term for people to use.
No, it doesn't. Look up what a compound word is.
Which is what many on the pro-choice/abort side like to do.
Mislead
distort
change definitions.
You mean, like calling a fetus a 'baby'?
Oh, no, wait, that's you guys that do that...
Pro-choice actually means to favor and/or support choices made on any issue,
at any time.
Wrong. Your own quotes don't even support that. Guess you really
didn't get that new brain for Xmas like I asked for you.
I would like to thank James Keegan and David Barnes both for providing the
opportunity to expose the TRUE meaning of pro-choice. If it was not for
them opening the door, it would be a little more difficult to argue the true
meaning of pro-choice.
Seems you can't make a cogent argument even with your imaginary
triumphs.
I leave James Keegan and David Barnes both to the pro-choice crowd to
explain the serious damage they have done to the argument against the term
pro-choice.
---
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
29 Dec 2003 12:40:21 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
Favor - Selection
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue, the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what sex, no
matter what the issue.
It is DISCRIMINATION and MISLEADING if you apply it to women only.
Pro-choice placed together in the dictionary redefines the terms pro and
choice. Creating a misleading and discriminating term for people to use.
No, it doesn't. Look up what a compound word is.
No, you thank your comrades for helping me with this argument and their
breaking apart the term pro-abortion
Which is what many on the pro-choice/abort side like to do.
Mislead
distort
change definitions.
You mean, like calling a fetus a 'baby'?
Many people refer to the fetus as a baby, including doctors
Oh, no, wait, that's you guys that do that...
No, that could be anyone. Not everyone is hung up on terms like you.
Pro-choice actually means to favor and/or support choices made on any
issue,
at any time.
Wrong. Your own quotes don't even support that. Guess you really
didn't get that new brain for Xmas like I asked for you.
No, I am right and thank your comrades.
I would like to thank James Keegan and David Barnes both for providing
the
opportunity to expose the TRUE meaning of pro-choice. If it was not for
them opening the door, it would be a little more difficult to argue the
true
meaning of pro-choice.
Seems you can't make a cogent argument even with your imaginary
triumphs.
Thank your comrades now.
And have a nice day.
I leave James Keegan and David Barnes both to the pro-choice crowd to
explain the serious damage they have done to the argument against the
term
pro-choice.
---
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
29 Dec 2003 03:13:21 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0dk0vvs6frm6k2ou9srjmbsl0sid48cokg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
End of story. Pro-choicers favor the ACT OF CHOOSING. Nothing there
about approving of the choice made.
Explained many times already. Did you forget?
Favor - Selection
Not a specific selection, however. No knowledge of the choice made is
required to approve of having a range of choices to select from.
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
No, it's not. Compound word in common usage.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue, the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what sex, no
matter what the issue.
No, it doesn't. It means that I support the opportunity to make a
choice.
It is DISCRIMINATION and MISLEADING if you apply it to women only.
Puh-lease. Spare us the false indignation.
Pro-choice placed together in the dictionary redefines the terms pro and
choice. Creating a misleading and discriminating term for people to use.
No, it doesn't. Look up what a compound word is.
No, you thank your comrades for helping me with this argument and their
breaking apart the term pro-abortion
Haven't looked up what a compound word is yet, eh?
Which is what many on the pro-choice/abort side like to do.
Mislead
distort
change definitions.
You mean, like calling a fetus a 'baby'?
Many people refer to the fetus as a baby, including doctors
But anti-abortionists do it with full knowledge and intent to deceive.
Oh, no, wait, that's you guys that do that...
No, that could be anyone. Not everyone is hung up on terms like you.
Then why all the fuss about using the correct term from
anti-abortionists?
Why all the fuss from you to wrongly define what 'pro-choice' means?
Pro-choice actually means to favor and/or support choices made on any
issue,
at any time.
Wrong. Your own quotes don't even support that. Guess you really
didn't get that new brain for Xmas like I asked for you.
No, I am right and thank your comrades.
No, you're not. I fully approve of the right to make a choice at the
voting booth (the act of selection) and NO knowledge of the choice
made is necessary for that approval.
Same for abortion.
I would like to thank James Keegan and David Barnes both for providing
the
opportunity to expose the TRUE meaning of pro-choice. If it was not for
them opening the door, it would be a little more difficult to argue the
true
meaning of pro-choice.
Seems you can't make a cogent argument even with your imaginary
triumphs.
Thank your comrades now.
And have a nice day.
I leave James Keegan and David Barnes both to the pro-choice crowd to
explain the serious damage they have done to the argument against the
term
pro-choice.
---
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
29 Dec 2003 04:09:38 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0dk0vvs6frm6k2ou9srjmbsl0sid48cokg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has
allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of
styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
ALSO
SELECTION
ALSO
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
You pick and choose, there is MORE than just ACT OF CHOOSING
End of story. Pro-choicers favor the ACT OF CHOOSING. Nothing there
about approving of the choice made.
WRONG
Yes, there is something there about approving the choice made
PRO - MEANING TO FAVOR
Which would mean you have to APPROVE
And it can be
Act of choosing AS WELL AS
SELECTION
AND
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
Explained many times already. Did you forget?
Obviously NOT FOR YOU
Favor - Selection
Not a specific selection,
In the case of abortion, if she SELECTS abortion, that is HER SELECTION
And you are PRO- CHOICE...you just FAVORED HER SELECTION
however. No knowledge of the choice made is
required to approve of having a range of choices to select from.
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
No, it's not. Compound word in common usage.
Then you are going to correct James and David on their BREAKING APART
PRO-ABORTION?
Or
Are you going to agree with them?
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue, the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what sex,
no
matter what the issue.
No, it doesn't. It means that I support the opportunity to make a
choice.
Yes it does
It is DISCRIMINATION and MISLEADING if you apply it to women only.
Puh-lease. Spare us the false indignation.
You can thank your comrades
Pro-choice placed together in the dictionary redefines the terms pro
and
choice. Creating a misleading and discriminating term for people to
use.
No, it doesn't. Look up what a compound word is.
No, you thank your comrades for helping me with this argument and their
breaking apart the term pro-abortion
Haven't looked up what a compound word is yet, eh?
Have you thanked your comrades yet?
Which is what many on the pro-choice/abort side like to do.
Mislead
distort
change definitions.
You mean, like calling a fetus a 'baby'?
Many people refer to the fetus as a baby, including doctors
But anti-abortionists do it with full knowledge and intent to deceive.
pro-choice/aborts use MANY methods to decieve
PBA for example
Using the term pro-choice is another example
Breaking apart the term pro-abortion is yet ANOTHER example
Oh, no, wait, that's you guys that do that...
No, that could be anyone. Not everyone is hung up on terms like you.
Then why all the fuss about using the correct term from
anti-abortionists?
Thank your comrades
Why all the fuss from you to wrongly define what 'pro-choice' means?
Thank your comrades
Unless you are willing to openly condemn them for breaking the term
pro-abortion apart to make it mean something different.
Pro-choice actually means to favor and/or support choices made on any
issue,
at any time.
Wrong. Your own quotes don't even support that. Guess you really
didn't get that new brain for Xmas like I asked for you.
No, I am right and thank your comrades.
No, you're not.
Yes I am, and have you thanked your comrades? I have.
I fully approve of the right to make a choice at the
voting booth (the act of selection) and NO knowledge of the choice
made is necessary for that approval.
Same for abortion.
I would like to thank James Keegan and David Barnes both for providing
the
opportunity to expose the TRUE meaning of pro-choice. If it was not
for
them opening the door, it would be a little more difficult to argue
the
true
meaning of pro-choice.
Seems you can't make a cogent argument even with your imaginary
triumphs.
Thank your comrades now.
And have a nice day.
I leave James Keegan and David Barnes both to the pro-choice crowd to
explain the serious damage they have done to the argument against the
term
pro-choice.
---
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
29 Dec 2003 05:02:05 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0dk0vvs6frm6k2ou9srjmbsl0sid48cokg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has
allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of
styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
ALSO
SELECTION
ALSO
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
You pick and choose, there is MORE than just ACT OF CHOOSING
But that is the PRIMARY meaning of the word.
se·lec·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-lkshn)
n.
1.
1. The act or an instance of selecting or the fact of having
been selected.
"The act".
End of story, I'm afraid.
It is you that cherry picks your definitions.
End of story. Pro-choicers favor the ACT OF CHOOSING. Nothing there
about approving of the choice made.
WRONG
Yes, there is something there about approving the choice made
Nope.
PRO - MEANING TO FAVOR
Which would mean you have to APPROVE
Nope.
It's easy to support without approving.
Wrong again.
And it can be
Act of choosing AS WELL AS
SELECTION
AND
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
But it's defined as something that ISN'T those last two. Wrong again.
Explained many times already. Did you forget?
Obviously NOT FOR YOU
Favor - Selection
Not a specific selection,
In the case of abortion, if she SELECTS abortion, that is HER SELECTION
And you are PRO- CHOICE...you just FAVORED HER SELECTION
Nope. I don't know what women choose, and neither do I care to.
I support the opportunity for her to choose for herself. That's it.
'Fraid you don't get to tell me what I'm supporting or not. I believe
that I am the authority on that - every time you tell me differently,
you're wrong. It's quite that simple.
however. No knowledge of the choice made is
required to approve of having a range of choices to select from.
No answer.
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
No, it's not. Compound word in common usage.
Then you are going to correct James and David on their BREAKING APART
PRO-ABORTION?
Or
Are you going to agree with them?
It has nothing to do with me. Unlike you, they are not trying to tell
me what to think.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue, the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what sex,
no
matter what the issue.
No, it doesn't. It means that I support the opportunity to make a
choice.
Yes it does
Nope. Again, you don't get to tell me what I think.
You'll be wrong EVERY time you do.
You keep on re-visiting that topic, like you suddenly gained the right
to tell me what I think. Sorry, you don't get to, you aren't correct
when you try.
End of story. When you can stand to stop trying to control what others
think, come back.
[snip]
---
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
29 Dec 2003 05:59:44 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has
allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of
styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this
argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
ALSO
SELECTION
ALSO
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
You pick and choose, there is MORE than just ACT OF CHOOSING
But that is the PRIMARY meaning of the word.
I don't care if you consider it a primary word or not, fact is, any one of
those definitions can be used for choice.
se·lec·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-lkshn)
n.
1.
1. The act or an instance of selecting or the fact of having
been selected.
"The act".
The act, correct
Abortion would be the act if that is her selection
End of story, I'm afraid.
I am afraid you are ignorant
It is you that cherry picks your definitions.
End of story. Pro-choicers favor the ACT OF CHOOSING. Nothing there
about approving of the choice made.
WRONG
Yes, there is something there about approving the choice made
Nope.
You are wrong again
PRO - MEANING TO FAVOR
Which would mean you have to APPROVE
Nope.
Yep
It's easy to support without approving.
Wrong again.
Wrong for you
And it can be
Act of choosing AS WELL AS
SELECTION
AND
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
But it's defined as something that ISN'T those last two. Wrong again.
Sorry, but your delusional. Can't trust anything you say
Explained many times already. Did you forget?
Obviously NOT FOR YOU
Favor - Selection
Not a specific selection,
In the case of abortion, if she SELECTS abortion, that is HER SELECTION
And you are PRO- CHOICE...you just FAVORED HER SELECTION
Nope.
Yep
I don't know what women choose, and neither do I care to.
I support the opportunity for her to choose for herself. That's it.
'Fraid you don't get to tell me what I'm supporting or not. I believe
that I am the authority on that - every time you tell me differently,
you're wrong. It's quite that simple.
however. No knowledge of the choice made is
required to approve of having a range of choices to select from.
No answer.
Don't have too, I proved my case. Did you thank your comrades?
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies
to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
No, it's not. Compound word in common usage.
Then you are going to correct James and David on their BREAKING APART
PRO-ABORTION?
Or
Are you going to agree with them?
It has nothing to do with me.
Of course, birds of a feather flock together. You are going to turn your
head and pretend they didn't break apart a term.
Unlike you, they are not trying to tell
me what to think.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue,
the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the
selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim
it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what
sex,
no
matter what the issue.
No, it doesn't. It means that I support the opportunity to make a
choice.
Yes it does
Nope.
Yep
Again, you don't get to tell me what I think.
You'll be wrong EVERY time you do.
In Adam's world
But then again, the right kind of medication can get anyone in Adam's world.
You keep on re-visiting that topic, like you suddenly gained the right
to tell me what I think. Sorry, you don't get to, you aren't correct
when you try.
End of story. When you can stand to stop trying to control what others
think, come back.
And there you go snipping again.
[snip]
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"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:59:44 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has
allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of
styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this
argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
ALSO
SELECTION
ALSO
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
You pick and choose, there is MORE than just ACT OF CHOOSING
But that is the PRIMARY meaning of the word.
I don't care if you consider it a primary word or not, fact is, any one of
those definitions can be used for choice.
Not for me, they can't. And since I have the dictionary definition on
my side, plus what many others have said applies to them, I'm afraid
you don't have a leg to stand on.
se·lec·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-lkshn)
n.
1.
1. The act or an instance of selecting or the fact of having
been selected.
"The act".
The act, correct
Abortion would be the act if that is her selection
That is the act of *choosing*, not the result of the choice. Read for
content.
End of story, I'm afraid.
I am afraid you are ignorant
It is you that cherry picks your definitions.
End of story. Pro-choicers favor the ACT OF CHOOSING. Nothing there
about approving of the choice made.
WRONG
Yes, there is something there about approving the choice made
Nope.
You are wrong again
Then show us all where supporting the act of choosing implies
approving of the choice made.
PRO - MEANING TO FAVOR
Which would mean you have to APPROVE
Nope.
Yep
It's easy to support without approving.
Wrong again.
Wrong for you
Show us all now how it's impossible to support without approving. Get
to it.
Oh, wait, you can't. Too bad, so sad for you. Even your own bible
contradicts you, after all. I'll let you figure out where that is.
And it can be
Act of choosing AS WELL AS
SELECTION
AND
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
But it's defined as something that ISN'T those last two. Wrong again.
Sorry, but your delusional. Can't trust anything you say
My delusional what?
No actual answer, I see.
Explained many times already. Did you forget?
Obviously NOT FOR YOU
Favor - Selection
Not a specific selection,
In the case of abortion, if she SELECTS abortion, that is HER SELECTION
And you are PRO- CHOICE...you just FAVORED HER SELECTION
Nope.
Yep
No, I didn't. Can't favour something I don't know about. Wrong again.
Still can't get away from trying to tell me what to think, can you?
Still not working for you, though.
I don't know what women choose, and neither do I care to.
I support the opportunity for her to choose for herself. That's it.
'Fraid you don't get to tell me what I'm supporting or not. I believe
that I am the authority on that - every time you tell me differently,
you're wrong. It's quite that simple.
however. No knowledge of the choice made is
required to approve of having a range of choices to select from.
No answer.
Don't have too, I proved my case. Did you thank your comrades?
See above. Your 'case' has more holes than your head.
(first
definition). It also means supporting the power to make that choice.
If I support the act of voting, it says nothing about whether I
support who you vote for.
Since the term pro-choice when the two words are put together applies
to
pregnant women only, my argument that the term is discriminating and a
misleading term has been proven to be a valid argument.
No, it's not. Compound word in common usage.
Then you are going to correct James and David on their BREAKING APART
PRO-ABORTION?
Or
Are you going to agree with them?
It has nothing to do with me.
Of course, birds of a feather flock together. You are going to turn your
head and pretend they didn't break apart a term.
Actually, I'm going to tell you I don't give a *****. They don't try to
tell me how to think, unlike you. They also don't randomly make up
definitions and try to pretend authority.
Unlike you, they are not trying to tell
me what to think.
Move on.
In other words, what ever a person chooses, what ever the issue,
the
person
who claims to be pro-choice actually supports and favors the
selection
made.
Wrong, see above.
Example:
If a woman chooses to abort, the person claiming to be pro-choice
supports
that selection.
It doesn't mean to support a woman's right to choose, as many claim
it
means.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't. It means you can favor any choice, no matter what
sex,
no
matter what the issue.
No, it doesn't. It means that I support the opportunity to make a
choice.
Yes it does
Nope.
Yep
Again, you don't get to tell me what I think.
You'll be wrong EVERY time you do.
In Adam's world
But then again, the right kind of medication can get anyone in Adam's world.
As I said...
Wrong again.
You keep on re-visiting that topic, like you suddenly gained the right
to tell me what I think. Sorry, you don't get to, you aren't correct
when you try.
End of story. When you can stand to stop trying to control what others
think, come back.
And there you go snipping again.
Yup. Had enough of you being wrong.
Here's a final word. You don't get to tell me what I think, and you'll
be wrong every time you do, as you have been every time so far. You
want a continuation, first you stop telling me what to think. I'll be
betting you can't.
I see Santa didn't bring you any smarts for Xmas.
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"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation."
-Pierre Trudeau, 1967
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does pro-choice mean |
10 Jun 2003 01:33:24 AM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:59:44 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:40:21 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:45:13 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
What does pro-choice really mean?
If we break apart the term (as James Keegan and David Barnes has
allowed
us
to do)
we will find that the term does not apply to pregnant women at
all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pro
pro-1
pref.
1.. Acting in the place of; substituting for: proform.
2.. Supporting; favoring: prorevolutionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=choice
choice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chois)
n.
1.. The act of choosing; selection.
2.. The power, right, or liberty to choose; option.
3.. One that is chosen.
4.. A number or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of
styles
and
colors.
5.. The best or most preferable part.
6.. Care in choosing.
7.. An alternative.
So we see that pro-choice really means to favor a persons
selection
Wrong. It REALLY means supporting the act of choosing
WRONG
And thank your comrades James and David for helping me with this
argument
Pro - Favor
Choice - Selection
WRONG. "The act of choosing."
ALSO
SELECTION
ALSO
ONE THAT IS CHOSEN
You pick and choose, there is MORE than just ACT OF CHOOSING
But that is the PRIMARY meaning of the word.
I don't care if you consider it a primary word or not, fact is, any one
of
those definitions can be used for choice.
Not for me, they can't.
Not my problem, that is yours.
You lose
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