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"Snubis" |
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05 Jan 2004 05:48:59 PM |
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Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
(TheIdiotBible) wrote in message news:<20031216193205.10770.00000675@mb-m24.news.cs.com>...
What if it was suddenly discovered that Jesus was a libral
Would christians still worship him ???
Jesus would probably have hated the Religious right and Bush
here is why ,
Bush and the GOP and religious right are pro-rich they cut taxes on the rich
they take from the poor and give to the rich , The GOP exalts the rich
did Jesus do the same ??
I don't think so, here is the evidence
In Luke 6:24 he condems the rich
Again in Matt 19:24
In Matt 19:21 he commands the rich man seeking salvation
to give all that he has to the poor
In Acts 5:1-5 and 5:8-10 St Peter punishes a man who refuses to give
everything he has to the commune the collective , the early christians were
collectivists communists.
Its clear from the above verses that Jesus did not favor the Rich
Now lets talk about ears of corn and a free lunch
Republicans and the religious right cut welfare programs , they say
no such thing as a free lunch .
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
well in Mark 2:23 while Jesus and his disciples were passing through a corn
field
the disciples started taking ears of corn. In Mark 2:25 Jesus defends his
disciples actions, So Jesus believed in a free lunch
Note that trespassing some rightwing pro-gun christian bigot's cornfield in the
midwest and stealing ears of corn , would probably have landed Jesus in Jail
today or might have even gotten Jesus shot.
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
06 Jan 2004 07:59:46 AM |
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In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
(Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
06 Jan 2004 12:35:39 PM |
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Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
06 Jan 2004 04:15:48 PM |
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In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
(Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
07 Jan 2004 03:31:49 PM |
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Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
08 Jan 2004 11:08:41 AM |
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"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
09 Jan 2004 08:20:33 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to. You will have that
opportunity when he comes the second time.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
09 Jan 2004 10:46:51 AM |
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"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
09 Jan 2004 09:19:07 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
10 Jan 2004 02:16:14 AM |
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"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
10 Jan 2004 09:31:38 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFFB4FC.FEC4DB9B@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
Well, maybe you could communicate your directives to God and see if he
obeys you. The chances do not look good. We will know your plan was
accepted if all Gideon Bibles start disappearing from hotels.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
11 Jan 2004 02:47:12 AM |
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"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFFB4FC.FEC4DB9B@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
Well, maybe you could communicate your directives to God and see if he
obeys you. The chances do not look good. We will know your plan was
accepted if all Gideon Bibles start disappearing from hotels.
You just don't get it, do you?
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
11 Jan 2004 03:12:11 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<40010DBF.ADA2DBFC@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFFB4FC.FEC4DB9B@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
Well, maybe you could communicate your directives to God and see if he
obeys you. The chances do not look good. We will know your plan was
accepted if all Gideon Bibles start disappearing from hotels.
You just don't get it, do you?
I don't get what?
Robert B. winn
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(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0401101931.3236cd86@posting.google.com>...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFFB4FC.FEC4DB9B@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
(Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
Well, maybe you could communicate your directives to God and see if he
obeys you. The chances do not look good. We will know your plan was
accepted if all Gideon Bibles start disappearing from hotels.
Planning a stealing spree, Winndbag?
Robert B. Winn
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12 Jan 2004 08:03:23 AM |
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(pr0r3p) wrote in message news:<1686c3b8.0401112006.7b4df31d@posting.google.com>...
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0401101931.3236cd86@posting.google.com>...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFFB4FC.FEC4DB9B@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFEDB27.249C230F@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FFD8EC7.B39A89CF@citlink.net>...
"Robert B. Winn" wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
He isn't coming
He would be the person to tell your idea to.
It's not an idea, but a fact
You will have that opportunity when he comes the second time.
He isn't coming
Well, if you really believed that, it would make no difference to you
if someone else believed he was coming. You would just use your
knowledge of events to your advantage. Your philosophy depends on
persuading others that Christ is not coming, which shows that you have
no belief of your own, only a system of attack designed to wear down
the believer. In other words, the person persuaded by your
persistence gains nothing from you since you have nothing to offer.
All you are capable of is attacking the faith of those who believe in
something.
You're delusional. My "philosophy" does not depend on pursuading others
that something isn't going to happen. I don't attack and I'm not looking
to wear down anyone's beliefs. How unfortunate (for you) that my stating
my belief on the matter makes you feel victimized and causes you to
question your faith.
That said: When someone, you in this instance, continues to offer your
belief as indisputable fact, I will demonstrate, should I feel the urge,
that your beliefs mean nothing... NOTHING... to anyone but you.
Your god is irrelevant to reality and his book is nothing more than an
ancient tale, rife with hatred and fear, that was created by men in an
attempt to control the ignorant. A true god would need no laws, would
need no book to convey his message, and would need no blind worship.
Well, maybe you could communicate your directives to God and see if he
obeys you. The chances do not look good. We will know your plan was
accepted if all Gideon Bibles start disappearing from hotels.
Planning a stealing spree, Winndbag?
Robert B. Winn
No.
Robert B. Winn
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14 Jan 2004 06:11:08 PM |
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On 7 Jan 2004 13:31:49 -0800, (Robert B.
Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
(Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
Robert B. Winn
jesus who? No such person existed. Perhaps you mean Joshua Bin
Joseph, the radical liberal socialist reformer who said that all rich
people are going to hell and who fed the people and cured the sick all
for free???? The term Jesus (latin) Christ (Greek) didn't appear till
the third century, a Masison Ave type of thing I assume.
So if he does in fact return I suggest you get the name right because
if you yell out "Jesus, Jesus!" he won't know who your addressing and
assume you are looking for a Spanish friend.
THOM
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14 Jan 2004 08:16:34 PM |
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AMEN, no matter how much man abuses and rapes the planet and the people
JESUS never changes and I HE will always be in my heart.
P.S. VOTE FOR DAFFY DUCK!!
"Thom" <thomandpam@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:4005d982.8325999@news.melbpc.org.au...
On 7 Jan 2004 13:31:49 -0800, (Robert B.
Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
(Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to
enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor
could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt
thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the
poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
How? Atheists are still trying to tell me that Hezekiah's tunnel does
not exist because it is mentioned in the Bible. They claim that the
tunnel from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam is a hoax perpetrated
by Jerusalem tour guides. I think we would do better to wait for the
2nd coming of Christ and let Jesus Christ explain these things to the
atheists.
Robert B. Winn
jesus who? No such person existed. Perhaps you mean Joshua Bin
Joseph, the radical liberal socialist reformer who said that all rich
people are going to hell and who fed the people and cured the sick all
for free???? The term Jesus (latin) Christ (Greek) didn't appear till
the third century, a Masison Ave type of thing I assume.
So if he does in fact return I suggest you get the name right because
if you yell out "Jesus, Jesus!" he won't know who your addressing and
assume you are looking for a Spanish friend.
THOM
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06 Jan 2004 07:21:21 PM |
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On Tue 06 Jan 2004 05:15:48p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to
enlist government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
Moving the goalposts, I see.
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| User: "Me" |
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07 Jan 2004 08:43:24 AM |
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In article <44fcfb85f4e8745c5d94d65bf56a32a7@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 06 Jan 2004 05:15:48p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to
enlist government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
Moving the goalposts, I see.
No. I have not repositioned the goalposts for many years. In order to
prove the existence of God, many people try to quote me passages from
the Bible. In order for me to give any credence to those passages, I
need to know from an external source that they're the word of God. It
is a very reasonable request. It is not my fault no one has yet to
meet that goal.
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07 Jan 2004 11:15:53 AM |
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On Wed 07 Jan 2004 09:43:24a, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-50735A.09432407012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <44fcfb85f4e8745c5d94d65bf56a32a7@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 06 Jan 2004 05:15:48p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to
enlist government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt
thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for
the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
Moving the goalposts, I see.
No. I have not repositioned the goalposts for many years. In order to
prove the existence of God, many people try to quote me passages from
the Bible. In order for me to give any credence to those passages, I
need to know from an external source that they're the word of God. It
is a very reasonable request. It is not my fault no one has yet to
meet that goal.
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
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07 Jan 2004 02:41:00 PM |
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In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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07 Jan 2004 02:50:24 PM |
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Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004
@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
Your expectations will never be met. In all of the years of recorded
history, not one iota of proof has ever been provided to support the
existence of any supernatural god or gods. And I'll wager that it won't
happen here either.
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| User: "Snubis" |
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07 Jan 2004 02:54:03 PM |
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On Wed 07 Jan 2004 03:50:24p, Bob <SD> wrote in
news:Xns94698299E9C6FSD@153.80.109.11:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004
@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal
to the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
Your expectations will never be met. In all of the years of recorded
history, not one iota of proof has ever been provided to support the
existence of any supernatural god or gods. And I'll wager that it won't
happen here either.
Do you claim you have enough knowledge to know there is no God?
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| User: "Thom" |
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14 Jan 2004 05:22:39 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:54:03 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Wed 07 Jan 2004 03:50:24p, Bob <SD> wrote in
news:Xns94698299E9C6FSD@153.80.109.11:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004
@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal
to the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
Your expectations will never be met. In all of the years of recorded
history, not one iota of proof has ever been provided to support the
existence of any supernatural god or gods. And I'll wager that it won't
happen here either.
Do you claim you have enough knowledge to know there is no God?
It is illogical to prove a negitive. However, you must also remember
that faith is defined as the abandoning of all reason. In that
respect then there is no need to prove or dfisprove.
Reality isn't the issue, in cases like this you act as you believe
things to be and things are exactly as they are. Your response to
them is in accordance to the way you judge reality.
THOM
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07 Jan 2004 05:30:57 PM |
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in news:f936f372519520ec688fec5f603261f3
@news.teranews.com:
On Wed 07 Jan 2004 03:50:24p, Bob <SD> wrote in
news:Xns94698299E9C6FSD@153.80.109.11:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004
@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal
to the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
Your expectations will never be met. In all of the years of recorded
history, not one iota of proof has ever been provided to support the
existence of any supernatural god or gods. And I'll wager that it
won't
happen here either.
Do you claim you have enough knowledge to know there is no God?
What I know or think doesn't really matter. Re-read what I said just
above.
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07 Jan 2004 02:35:56 PM |
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On Wed 07 Jan 2004 03:41:00p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
It has already been proven to you that it was lawful for Jesus to eat from
the corn field.
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
07 Jan 2004 04:07:56 PM |
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In article <8ecb465e1bf3540e520084cf875061fd@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Wed 07 Jan 2004 03:41:00p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-CBD304.15410007012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
I haven't. I came into this thread mid-stream. Even so, if you're
going to use your belief in God and the Bible as His word, than I
require proof. Without proof, this is no possible way I am going
to allow someone to reduce freedom merely on the basis of what
he or she claims.
It has already been proven to you that it was lawful for Jesus to eat from
the corn field.
Huh?
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
07 Jan 2004 05:04:23 PM |
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<9fdd4d44de2da245602c9feb7840a887@news.teranews.com>...
On Wed 07 Jan 2004 09:43:24a, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-50735A.09432407012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <44fcfb85f4e8745c5d94d65bf56a32a7@news.teranews.com>,
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 06 Jan 2004 05:15:48p, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in
news:srhi-4C2D26.17154806012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com:
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to
enlist government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt
thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for
the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
Moving the goalposts, I see.
No. I have not repositioned the goalposts for many years. In order to
prove the existence of God, many people try to quote me passages from
the Bible. In order for me to give any credence to those passages, I
need to know from an external source that they're the word of God. It
is a very reasonable request. It is not my fault no one has yet to
meet that goal.
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
God giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not. James 1:5
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Morf" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
08 Jan 2004 08:39:22 PM |
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Snubis wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
Jesus was a Liberal Traitor.
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| User: "Thom" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
16 Jan 2004 04:44:09 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:39:22 GMT, Morf <central222@hotmail.com> wrote:
Snubis wrote:
Why have you gone from discussing whether or not Jesus was a liberal to
the existence of God?
Jesus was a Liberal Traitor.
yup. really was a pain in the butt to organized religion and the
conservitive war mongering Romans.
THOM
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| User: "Thom" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
13 Jan 2004 03:52:27 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:15:48 -0500, Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <7943568.0401061035.5e7b38d6@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
Me <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-4938B7.08594606012004@comcast.ash.giganews.com>...
In article <c080b629.0401051548.557b6a08@posting.google.com>,
snubis@hotmail.com (Snubis) wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Proof?
Your ignorance of the Bible astounds me. In Jesus' time, it was
traditional to set aside a portion of your crops so the poor could
come and eat it. They weren't stealing it.
Proof?
Leviticus 19:10 Thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou
gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor
and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
another blast against the republicans and greed I'd say
THOM
Robert B. Winn
Proof that the Bible is factual.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: What if Jesus was a libral ??? |
08 Jan 2004 12:20:56 AM |
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Snubis <snubis@hotmail.com> wrote:
Jesus said *you* help the poor. He didn't tell his disciples to enlist
government to pick pockets to succor the widow and orphan.
Yeah! You don't give a ***** about anybody but yourself so why should
you be expected to help ANYBODY?!?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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