Science > Abortion > Re: When Connected to a Life Support System is He/She/It Alive?
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Re: When Connected to a Life Support System is He/She/It Alive? |
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:25:56 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote ...
"Genetic code" doesn't mean ***** when defining if something is an
organism or being. AFAIK there is *NO* accepted definition of
organism or being that demands that the organism or being only
contains one set of DNA. If you're going to claim I'm wrong at least
try to do so without posting bogus crap.
You certainly don't know what you are talking about. Each organism
carries only _ONE_ genetic code (DNA).
Obviously, you could not recognize *bogus crap* if you were to
see it.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Get yourself an education.
If you don't understand _anything_ about DNA then who are you to
tell anyone to get an education. BTW I am educated 8 years at the
university level.
Obviously not in biology (or you could be but choose to lie instead.)
There are *MANY* examples of organism with multiple genetic codes
(DNA).
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22 Jun 2003 11:43:00 AM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:25:56 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote ...
"Genetic code" doesn't mean ***** when defining if something is an
organism or being. AFAIK there is *NO* accepted definition of
organism or being that demands that the organism or being only
contains one set of DNA. If you're going to claim I'm wrong at
least
try to do so without posting bogus crap.
You certainly don't know what you are talking about. Each organism
carries only _ONE_ genetic code (DNA).
Obviously, you could not recognize *bogus crap* if you were to
see it.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Get yourself an education.
If you don't understand _anything_ about DNA then who are you to
tell anyone to get an education. BTW I am educated 8 years at the
university level.
Obviously not in biology (or you could be but choose to lie instead.)
There are *MANY* examples of organism with multiple genetic codes
(DNA).
I am in reference to single individuals not species, to which I think
you are in reference.
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22 Jun 2003 04:05:52 PM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:43:00 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:25:56 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote ...
"Genetic code" doesn't mean ***** when defining if something is an
organism or being. AFAIK there is *NO* accepted definition of
organism or being that demands that the organism or being only
contains one set of DNA. If you're going to claim I'm wrong at
least
try to do so without posting bogus crap.
You certainly don't know what you are talking about. Each organism
carries only _ONE_ genetic code (DNA).
Obviously, you could not recognize *bogus crap* if you were to
see it.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Get yourself an education.
If you don't understand _anything_ about DNA then who are you to
tell anyone to get an education. BTW I am educated 8 years at the
university level.
Obviously not in biology (or you could be but choose to lie instead.)
There are *MANY* examples of organism with multiple genetic codes
(DNA).
I am in reference to single individuals not species, to which I think
you are in reference.
No. Single organisms with different DNA sequences in different parts.
You are obviously ignorant of biology, or else are deliberately lying.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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22 Jun 2003 11:54:27 AM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:43:00 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:25:56 -0400, "Robert Dean"
<robert_dean@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote ...
"Genetic code" doesn't mean ***** when defining if something is an
organism or being. AFAIK there is *NO* accepted definition of
organism or being that demands that the organism or being only
contains one set of DNA. If you're going to claim I'm wrong at
least
try to do so without posting bogus crap.
You certainly don't know what you are talking about. Each organism
carries only _ONE_ genetic code (DNA).
Obviously, you could not recognize *bogus crap* if you were to
see it.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Get yourself an education.
If you don't understand _anything_ about DNA then who are you to
tell anyone to get an education. BTW I am educated 8 years at the
university level.
Obviously not in biology (or you could be but choose to lie instead.)
There are *MANY* examples of organism with multiple genetic codes
(DNA).
I am in reference to single individuals not species, to which I think
you are in reference.
No. Single organisms with different DNA sequences in different parts.
You are obviously ignorant of biology, or else are deliberately lying.
AH!!
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
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22 Jun 2003 01:15:25 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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22 Jun 2003 03:39:45 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
But you _are_ a liar, Heishman. Why are you complaining?
Just because you don't have any regard for the truth doesn't
mean that I should just accept your falsehoods.
Maybe if you stopped lying then I would stop calling you a liar.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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22 Jun 2003 04:20:20 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
But you _are_ a liar, Heishman.
No, you are Ray.
Prove it. I can prove easily that you're a liar.
You can't prove squat moron. All you do is take peoples words twist them
around.
You haven't
been able to do the same. The closest you've come is to lie about
what I write.
Oh puh-lease, you are desperate loser
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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22 Jun 2003 11:12:45 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
But you _are_ a liar, Heishman.
No, you are Ray.
Prove it. I can prove easily that you're a liar.
You can't prove squat moron. All you do is take peoples words twist them
around.
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist" can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
And again we see you UNABLE to back up a single one of your claims.
Heishman, not only are you a lying *****, you're a coward as well.
That's why you're a cop reject - you're too scared to face people
when they're not behind bars.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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22 Jun 2003 11:36:10 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
But you _are_ a liar, Heishman.
No, you are Ray.
Prove it. I can prove easily that you're a liar.
You can't prove squat moron. All you do is take peoples words
twist them around.
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child
rapist" can be twisted around to be anything less than the
lies of an immoral ***** of the worst kind?
but an immoral ***** of the worst kind is exactly what coward
bobby heishman is.
And again we see you UNABLE to back up a single one of your
claims.
that's not fair!! how can coward boby heishman back up any of his
caims when his claims are false?
Heishman, not only are you a lying *****, you're a coward as
well. That's why you're a cop reject - you're too scared to
face people when they're not behind bars.
he earned his nickname, coward bobby heishman
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23 Jun 2003 08:27:13 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bd5uns$k3n$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Pro-aborts 2nd tactic folks. Ray Fischer 101
Call them a liar
Pro-liar tactic #1: Lie and when exposed whine.
Actually this is your 1st and 2nd tactic
Attack and call them a liar.
But you _are_ a liar, Heishman.
No, you are Ray.
Prove it. I can prove easily that you're a liar.
You can't prove squat moron. All you do is take peoples words twist them
around.
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist" can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester. MORON!!!
And again we see you UNABLE to back up a single one of your claims.
BACK up your Child Molestor Claim MORON
Heishman, not only are you a lying *****, you're a coward as well.
That's why you're a cop reject - you're too scared to face people
when they're not behind bars.
This shows you just how STUPID YOU ARE!!
First off now you can prove the cop reject claim
Second they are not always behind bars you stupid idiot.
Man, just when I think you sink to new lows, you go and sink lower...ROFL!!!!
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23 Jun 2003 11:40:04 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bd5uns$k3n$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist" can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
Again and again we see you show that you are an immoral ***** who
will justify any atrocity by LYING about it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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24 Jun 2003 07:22:57 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message
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Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist"
can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie, you have done it numerous times
Again and again we see you show that you are an immoral ***** who
will justify any atrocity by LYING about it.
And clearly you are the liar
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Ray is denying he did this, as anyone can clearly see above. But here is
some proof and there is much more, and clearly we see Ray is LYING
From: (Ray Fischer)
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Subject: Re: Robert Heishman is now threatening people's lives
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The argument for war was that Iraq had WMD is 2003. There is no
evidence of that and ample evidence that Bush was lying.
We know he had WMDs in the 90s
Which is utterly irrelevant to now.
So the war was both legal and justified.
Just like executing YOU for terrorism is justified. We know you
have
or had the means to kill people so obviously
you must be killed before
you can kill any innocent people.
This is a threat to my life I take seriously!
Ray is now threatening.
Just like you're now a child molester.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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Robert <something@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
In 1990, Planned Parenthood sex education programs reached
1.8 million people. By 2000, that number had dropped almost
28% -- to 1.3 million. This occurred despite raises in
sex-ed expenditures in both FY2000 and FY2001. For example,
in 2001, PP spent $34.3 million on sex-ed programs.
Do you have a source? And no, anti-abortion oganizations
known for lying about PP are not credible.
Papa Jack replied:
Do you have a source, Jackass? It appears that the answer
is "no". All you seem to be able to provide is pro-lie disinformation
and propaganda.
Then show something that backs up that its false, or can you.
Just as soon as you prove that you're not a liar and a child molester.
--
Ray Fischer Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across
truth.
rfischer@sonic.net Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about
their business as if nothing had happened. -- Churchill
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Karen wrote:
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
mtrupe@angelfire.com (Rupert) wrote in
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The pro-abortion crowd refers to unborn babies as fetus.
really?
i have been reading and posting to the abortion newsgroups since they
were created. i don;t know any pro-abortion people.
could you list the names of some of this crowd, say six of these so-
called pro-abortion folks?
or 5?
or even 4?
or 3?
thanks.
Easy
James Keegan
Ray Fischer
Krisblake
Craig Chilton
Loose Cannon
Pat Winstanley
Bob
None of the above are pro-abortion IMNSHO.
You lie yet again, Heishman.
<drivel snipped>
The so called "drivel" Karen snips was the question I asked these people
to answer. Proving once again, that people like Karen have something to
hide and don't want to face the real issue.
Heishman, you're a liar.
Yes those people as well as Karen are pro-abortion.
Just like Heishman is a convicted child molester.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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news.dallas.sbcglobal.net <cbordeman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Because mine are right,
Says who?
Says me.
Get back to us when God appoints you as His successor.
Will do! In the meantime, I'll enjoy my right to have an opinion and use
that opinion to shape law.
And I have the right to point out that you're a selfish hypocrite.
In my judgement, murder of a child is worse than the inconvenience
(which is
what it really is, not 'suffering', in the vast majority of cases) of
the
woman.
Not to you it isn't. It's quite obvious that YOUR convenience is worth
more to you than any child's life.
HUH? How in the heck is MY convenience involoved at a all???
ROFL! Excellent!
All you want is to control OTHER people. You don't give a ***** who
lives or dies so long as you get to coontrol women.
You're a flaming hypocrite who just wants to control women. And to
justify it you resort to lies and falsehoods such as claiming that
abortion is murder and the childbirth is just a matter of
"convenience".
For those reasons alone your morality is corrupt and should be
disregarded.
Well, those are oversimplifications of what I said, but remember those are
only your opinions.
No, they're your arguments.
YOU want to murder children,
And you're a child molester.
Stupid *****.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message
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<no@spam.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Joseph P. Belk <jpbelk@fuse.net> wrote:
Adam H.
Clearly some anti-aborts resort to terrorism and murder. What does
this tell you?
The juxtaposition of these two questions should tell us all a lot.
Let's see, now....
Abortionists in the United States kill more than one million human
beings in the wombs of their mothers, annually.
Anti-abortion terrorists kill more than a billion human beings every
year in the US alone.
***** claims are easy to make.
But where are the photographs to back up your ***** claims?
Where are your facts?
http://www.operationrescue.org/abortion/babypics.asp
LOL! Anybody can produced faked photos like that.
where is your evidence to prove they are fake?
Where is your evidence to prove that you're not a child molester?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Now watch Ray use another tactic
He will try to say that I don't know how to read or something, or play on
words
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
From: (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Robert Heishman is now threatening people's lives
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:21:15 GMT
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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The argument for war was that Iraq had WMD is 2003. There is no
evidence of that and ample evidence that Bush was lying.
We know he had WMDs in the 90s
Which is utterly irrelevant to now.
So the war was both legal and justified.
Just like executing YOU for terrorism is justified. We know you
have
or had the means to kill people so obviously
you must be killed before
you can kill any innocent people.
This is a threat to my life I take seriously!
Ray is now threatening.
Just like you're now a child molester.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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Subject: Re: Pro-lie disinformation
Organization: Sonic, San Jose
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Robert <something@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
In 1990, Planned Parenthood sex education programs reached
1.8 million people. By 2000, that number had dropped almost
28% -- to 1.3 million. This occurred despite raises in
sex-ed expenditures in both FY2000 and FY2001. For example,
in 2001, PP spent $34.3 million on sex-ed programs.
Do you have a source? And no, anti-abortion oganizations
known for lying about PP are not credible.
Papa Jack replied:
Do you have a source, Jackass? It appears that the answer
is "no". All you seem to be able to provide is pro-lie disinformation
and propaganda.
Then show something that backs up that its false, or can you.
Just as soon as you prove that you're not a liar and a child molester.
--
Ray Fischer Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across
truth.
rfischer@sonic.net Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about
their business as if nothing had happened. -- Churchill
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Karen wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
mtrupe@angelfire.com (Rupert) wrote in
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The pro-abortion crowd refers to unborn babies as fetus.
really?
i have been reading and posting to the abortion newsgroups since they
were created. i don;t know any pro-abortion people.
could you list the names of some of this crowd, say six of these so-
called pro-abortion folks?
or 5?
or even 4?
or 3?
thanks.
Easy
James Keegan
Ray Fischer
Krisblake
Craig Chilton
Loose Cannon
Pat Winstanley
Bob
None of the above are pro-abortion IMNSHO.
You lie yet again, Heishman.
<drivel snipped>
The so called "drivel" Karen snips was the question I asked these people
to answer. Proving once again, that people like Karen have something to
hide and don't want to face the real issue.
Heishman, you're a liar.
Yes those people as well as Karen are pro-abortion.
Just like Heishman is a convicted child molester.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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news.dallas.sbcglobal.net <cbordeman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Because mine are right,
Says who?
Says me.
Get back to us when God appoints you as His successor.
Will do! In the meantime, I'll enjoy my right to have an opinion and use
that opinion to shape law.
And I have the right to point out that you're a selfish hypocrite.
In my judgement, murder of a child is worse than the inconvenience
(which is
what it really is, not 'suffering', in the vast majority of cases) of
the
woman.
Not to you it isn't. It's quite obvious that YOUR convenience is worth
more to you than any child's life.
HUH? How in the heck is MY convenience involoved at a all???
ROFL! Excellent!
All you want is to control OTHER people. You don't give a ***** who
lives or dies so long as you get to coontrol women.
You're a flaming hypocrite who just wants to control women. And to
justify it you resort to lies and falsehoods such as claiming that
abortion is murder and the childbirth is just a matter of
"convenience".
For those reasons alone your morality is corrupt and should be
disregarded.
Well, those are oversimplifications of what I said, but remember those are
only your opinions.
No, they're your arguments.
YOU want to murder children,
And you're a child molester.
Stupid *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion,alt.feminism,alt.feminazis
Subject: Re: Radical Abortion Opponents = Fascists
Organization: Sonic, San Jose
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message
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<no@spam.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Joseph P. Belk <jpbelk@fuse.net> wrote:
Adam H.
Clearly some anti-aborts resort to terrorism and murder. What does
this tell you?
The juxtaposition of these two questions should tell us all a lot.
Let's see, now....
Abortionists in the United States kill more than one million human
beings in the wombs of their mothers, annually.
Anti-abortion terrorists kill more than a billion human beings every
year in the US alone.
***** claims are easy to make.
But where are the photographs to back up your ***** claims?
Where are your facts?
http://www.operationrescue.org/abortion/babypics.asp
LOL! Anybody can produced faked photos like that.
where is your evidence to prove they are fake?
Where is your evidence to prove that you're not a child molester?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Now watch Ray use another tactic
He will try to say that I don't know how to read or something, or play on
words
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
Everybody can plainly see that you are a moron and try silly word games.
The evidence has been provided moron.
Oh genius
Demionstrates?
Looks like since I provided evidence to show you lie you got fustrated at
the key board
ROFL
From: (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Robert Heishman is now threatening people's lives
Message-ID: <bc11vq$odl$1@bolt.sonic.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:21:15 GMT
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"J.D. Wolfe" <lobo@betternet.com> wrote in message
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J.D. Wolfe <lobo@betternet.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
"J.D. Wolfe" <lobo@betternet.com> wrote in news:fZdEa.4019$sa.555
<snip><snip><
The argument for war was that Iraq had WMD is 2003. There is no
evidence of that and ample evidence that Bush was lying.
We know he had WMDs in the 90s
Which is utterly irrelevant to now.
So the war was both legal and justified.
Just like executing YOU for terrorism is justified. We know you
have
or had the means to kill people so obviously
you must be killed before
you can kill any innocent people.
This is a threat to my life I take seriously!
Ray is now threatening.
Just like you're now a child molester.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Pro-lie disinformation
Organization: Sonic, San Jose
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Robert <something@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
In 1990, Planned Parenthood sex education programs reached
1.8 million people. By 2000, that number had dropped almost
28% -- to 1.3 million. This occurred despite raises in
sex-ed expenditures in both FY2000 and FY2001. For example,
in 2001, PP spent $34.3 million on sex-ed programs.
Do you have a source? And no, anti-abortion oganizations
known for lying about PP are not credible.
Papa Jack replied:
Do you have a source, Jackass? It appears that the answer
is "no". All you seem to be able to provide is pro-lie disinformation
and propaganda.
Then show something that backs up that its false, or can you.
Just as soon as you prove that you're not a liar and a child molester.
--
Ray Fischer Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across
truth.
rfischer@sonic.net Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on
about
their business as if nothing had happened. -- Churchill
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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Subject: Re: Is Heishman really a child molester?
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Karen wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
mtrupe@angelfire.com (Rupert) wrote in
news:34b55be9.0304230859.b0a4b98@posting.google.com:
The pro-abortion crowd refers to unborn babies as fetus.
really?
i have been reading and posting to the abortion newsgroups since they
were created. i don;t know any pro-abortion people.
could you list the names of some of this crowd, say six of these so-
called pro-abortion folks?
or 5?
or even 4?
or 3?
thanks.
Easy
James Keegan
Ray Fischer
Krisblake
Craig Chilton
Loose Cannon
Pat Winstanley
Bob
None of the above are pro-abortion IMNSHO.
You lie yet again, Heishman.
<drivel snipped>
The so called "drivel" Karen snips was the question I asked these people
to answer. Proving once again, that people like Karen have something to
hide and don't want to face the real issue.
Heishman, you're a liar.
Yes those people as well as Karen are pro-abortion.
Just like Heishman is a convicted child molester.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
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news.dallas.sbcglobal.net <cbordeman@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Because mine are right,
Says who?
Says me.
Get back to us when God appoints you as His successor.
Will do! In the meantime, I'll enjoy my right to have an opinion and
use
that opinion to shape law.
And I have the right to point out that you're a selfish hypocrite.
In my judgement, murder of a child is worse than the inconvenience
(which is
what it really is, not 'suffering', in the vast majority of cases) of
the
woman.
Not to you it isn't. It's quite obvious that YOUR convenience is
worth
more to you than any child's life.
HUH? How in the heck is MY convenience involoved at a all???
ROFL! Excellent!
All you want is to control OTHER people. You don't give a ***** who
lives or dies so long as you get to coontrol women.
You're a flaming hypocrite who just wants to control women. And to
justify it you resort to lies and falsehoods such as claiming that
abortion is murder and the childbirth is just a matter of
"convenience".
For those reasons alone your morality is corrupt and should be
disregarded.
Well, those are oversimplifications of what I said, but remember those
are
only your opinions.
No, they're your arguments.
YOU want to murder children,
And you're a child molester.
Stupid *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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From: (Ray Fischer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion,alt.feminism,alt.feminazis
Subject: Re: Radical Abortion Opponents = Fascists
Organization: Sonic, San Jose
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<bce5cd$l9l$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
<no@spam.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Joseph P. Belk <jpbelk@fuse.net> wrote:
Adam H.
Clearly some anti-aborts resort to terrorism and murder. What
does
this tell you?
The juxtaposition of these two questions should tell us all a lot.
Let's see, now....
Abortionists in the United States kill more than one million human
beings in the wombs of their mothers, annually.
Anti-abortion terrorists kill more than a billion human beings
every
year in the US alone.
***** claims are easy to make.
But where are the photographs to back up your ***** claims?
Where are your facts?
http://www.operationrescue.org/abortion/babypics.asp
LOL! Anybody can produced faked photos like that.
where is your evidence to prove they are fake?
Where is your evidence to prove that you're not a child molester?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Now watch Ray use another tactic
He will try to say that I don't know how to read or something, or play on
words
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<NaWdnVbXAq4hi2SjXTWJhw@comcast.com>...
Osprey, I have some advice for you and I hope you consider it.
Whenever you get into a fight with swine, you're going to come out
stained and muddy. And even if you win, the pig will insist you lost.
This is the way of swine. It's been ever thus.
You have worthwhile things to say, but this psychotic, Ray "you're a
Liar!" Fischer is not worth your time. The exact same can be said with
regard to Chilton, and in varying degrees about Humpty Dumpty "I'm A
Grandparent" Paddy and Keegan, the Catholic Basher.
I don't always take my own advice, but I'm working on it. There are
much better enemies in here, and you can even learn a few things from
some of them, which is the general idea after all. This band of
scurrilous imbeciles, however, don't qualify.
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"Marie A." <LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1dc521ed.0306271717.710f0503@posting.google.com...
"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<NaWdnVbXAq4hi2SjXTWJhw@comcast.com>...
Osprey, I have some advice for you and I hope you consider it.
Whenever you get into a fight with swine, you're going to come out
stained and muddy. And even if you win, the pig will insist you lost.
This is the way of swine. It's been ever thus.
You have worthwhile things to say, but this psychotic, Ray "you're a
Liar!" Fischer is not worth your time. The exact same can be said with
regard to Chilton, and in varying degrees about Humpty Dumpty "I'm A
Grandparent" Paddy and Keegan, the Catholic Basher.
I don't always take my own advice, but I'm working on it. There are
much better enemies in here, and you can even learn a few things from
some of them, which is the general idea after all. This band of
scurrilous imbeciles, however, don't qualify.
I understand what you are saying Marie, and honestly Ray is nothing. The
only reason I even respond to him is because a few people I work with laugh
at his post. He is basically amusing. I say something, he jumps. It is
just more or less some fun ways to kill time. Make them jump, and Ray will
jump at anything.
:o)
I recognize worthy pro-choice/abort opponents at times. Unfortunately they
are few and far between in this NG. Maybe a few come out, but for the most
part these pro-choice/abortionist are just losers in life.
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(Marie A.) wrote in
news:1dc521ed.0306271717.710f0503@posting.google.com:
Osprey, I have some advice for you and I hope you consider it.
[...]
you think it's time for coward bobby to change his username, as you
did, because he is widely known as the abortion newsgroups most
prolific liar?
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Damn, bobby boy ospery heishman. Don't you ever do anything but obsess
over Ray putting you in your place regarding your control issues
toward women! ROFL!
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(Mizzyandrea) wrote in
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Damn, bobby boy ospery heishman. Don't you ever do anything but obsess
over Ray putting you in your place regarding your control issues
toward women! ROFL!
************************************
he does........every morning he goes into the bathroom with a tape
measure and each day he comes out more disappointed than the day
before........which makes him MORE determined to control the sex
lives of women. If he can't have any fun, no one else should either!
LOL!
Perhaps the chick_hen_hawk needs a dipstick rather than a tape measure?
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25 Jun 2003 04:40:19 PM |
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(Rich) wrote in
news:af00432e.0306250616.7caef418@posting.google.com:
Damn, bobby boy ospery heishman. Don't you ever do anything
but obsess over Ray putting you in your place regarding your
control issues toward women! ROFL!
chuckle.
whike coward bobby lies about everyone, he does seem to be
particulary obsessed with ray.
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26 Jun 2003 01:45:22 AM |
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In article <bddovg$pms$1@bolt.sonic.net>,
says...
Mizzyandrea <mizzyandrea@aol.com> wrote:
Damn, bobby boy ospery heishman. Don't you ever do anything but obsess
over Ray putting you in your place regarding your control issues
toward women! ROFL!
************************************
he does........every morning he goes into the bathroom with a tape measure and
each day he comes out more disappointed than the day before........which makes
him MORE determined to control the sex lives of women. If he can't have any
fun, no one else should either!
LOL!
Do they make tape measures that small? I would have thought a
micrometer would be more appropriate.
Surely an electron microscope would be more to the required scale...
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:27:56 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bdaulq$7da$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
Everybody can plainly see that you are a moron and try silly word games.
The evidence has been provided moron.
Oh genius
Demionstrates?
Looks like since I provided evidence to show you lie you got fustrated at
the key board
Oh, the irony. Spelling flames from Bobby. Really Bobby, writing
spellling flames about you would be like sandblasting a soup cracker.
'fustated'? What's that mean, Bobby? Also, learn the difference
between 'key board' (a board for keys) and a 'keyboard' (what you
pretend to know how to use when using your magic internet box).
I love the bit where you tried to write a spelling flame about one
mistake, but made *two* spelling mistakes while doing so.
People, like you, who live in stupid houses shouldn't criticize
intellects.
[snip]
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"The Church says the Earth is Flat,
But I know that it is Round,
For I have seen the Shadow on the Moon,
And I have more Faith in a Shadow
Than in the Church."
Ferdinand Magellan
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Robert Heishman gets fustrated as he continues to lie |
25 Jun 2003 09:45:57 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
Everybody can plainly see that you are a moron and try silly word games.
Looks like the consensus is that you're a liar.
The evidence has been provided moron.
The evidence that you're lying.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Ray Fischer allows the white stuff to get to him |
25 Jun 2003 09:59:23 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bddmp5$n5q$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a
child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
Everybody can plainly see that you are a moron and try silly word games.
Looks like the consensus is that you're a liar.
You mean the consensus by other pro-aborts?
Oh come on Ray, say something that is actually meaningful for once.
The evidence has been provided moron.
The evidence that you're lying.
Sorry, nice try but pro-choice/aborts are not capable of knowing honesty
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Heishman lies |
25 Jun 2003 07:44:57 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bdaulq$7da$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Just to add, and these are just a few samples of Ray calling me a child
molester
Everybody can see that I did no such thing./ Heishman once again
demionstrates that he 1) cannot read, and 2) cxannot tell the truth.
It's obvious that Asspry (Osprey/Heishman) doesn't read for
comprehension. He simply doesn't understand that you asking him to
prove he isn't a child molester is your way of trying to make him
realize that "Gee, I can't prove that something is false".
Instead, he twists your words and attempts to demonize you. This is
typical behavior for Asspry. He is a proven liar and hypocrite, whose
only defense in this NG is to lie and twist the words of others, or to
run away from his own stupid statements when challenged to defend
them.
The best defense is to continue to show the world his lies, his
hypocrisy and his stupidity. He's in the same boat as Winnbag, both
have had their tactics exposed and they're on the run.
<snip Asspry *****>
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Heishman displays 1st tactic |
24 Jun 2003 07:44:55 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bd8kn3$daq$1@bolt.sonic.net:
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<bd5uns$k3n$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child
rapist" can be twisted around to be anything less than the
lies of an immoral ***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child
molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
Again and again we see you show that you are an immoral
***** who will justify any atrocity by LYING about it.
coward bobby is simply living up to his net.reputation as the
abortion newsgroups most prolific liar.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Heishman lies |
24 Jun 2003 08:41:15 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist" can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie,
Heishman, you word is worth nothing at all. You provide no proof, no
evidence, and everybody knows that you're a liar.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Ray Fischer lies and slanders |
24 Jun 2003 10:28:46 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bdaujq$7aq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist"
can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie,
Heishman, you word is worth nothing at all. You provide no proof, no
evidence, and everybody knows that you're a liar.
All ready done moron, it has been provided and you done exactly as I
predicted. Playing on silly words or trying too
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Ray Fischer lies and slanders |
25 Jun 2003 10:12:32 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<q7Cdne30LdZzi2SjXTWJhA@comcast.com>...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bdaujq$7aq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist"
can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie,
Heishman, you word is worth nothing at all. You provide no proof, no
evidence, and everybody knows that you're a liar.
All ready done moron,
You've never provided ANY proof to backup ANY of your claims, Asspry.
The shameful part of it all is that you continue lying even after your
true colors have been shown.
it has been provided and you done exactly as I
predicted.
Whatever...
Playing on silly words or trying too
Yes, this is exactly the tactics you use. You twist words to mean
something else. Fortunately, not everyone is an idiot like you, and
can see exactly what you are _attempting_ to do.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Robert Heishman lies and slanders |
25 Jun 2003 09:28:37 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child rapist"
can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie,
Heishman, you word is worth nothing at all. You provide no proof, no
evidence, and everybody knows that you're a liar.
All ready done moron,
The only thing you proved is that you're a dumbshit who cannot read
and is eager to lie about it.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Ray Fischer lies and slanders |
25 Jun 2003 09:46:58 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bddlol$lul$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Tell us, you ***** pervert, how calling someone a "child
rapist"
can
be twisted around to be anything less than the lies of an immoral
***** of the worst kind?
As soon as you explain how YOU calling someone a child molester.
Easty, you immoral *****, I NEVER DID SO!
You lie,
Heishman, you word is worth nothing at all. You provide no proof, no
evidence, and everybody knows that you're a liar.
All ready done moron,
The only thing you proved is that you're a dumbshit who cannot read
and is eager to lie about it.
Oh,
Please explain then the following qoutes that YOU said
"Just like you're now a child molester"
"Just like Heishman is a convicted child molester"
"And you're a child molester"
Or are you going to deny that you said these things?
So which is it, are you going to lie or explain your statements?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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