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"Tavish" |
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20 Jul 2004 02:25:21 PM |
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Re: Why democracy overcomes radical politics |
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:01:18 GMT,
<O5dLc.9375$K53.5188@news-server.bigpond.net.au> "Jason James" <flyhi
@byplane.com> wrote:
It's quite simple: very few wish to live in a community governed by special
interest groups such as National anarchism, communism, fascism, racial
supremacism and even religious influenced lifestyles.
The very definition of such groups precludes the freedom of spirit which
defines the optimum human condition ie "..so long as such an act does not
harm others" This is the essence of democracy, and as such does not need
explanation.
Beware of alternative political literature and web-sites which have huge
chunks of text to 'explain' their ideology. With each word they tie another
loop of rope around true freedom.
Jason
And those who are really communists hide behind the cloak of being the advocates
and preservers of democracy!
--Democratic Party and it's ties to Communism--
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=nifg20hqpj0orbd835p8dipefccs8qnd5n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Communist Party USA Backed Democrats! (Their Own Words Too!) S_0209
Message-ID: <nifg20hqpj0orbd835p8dipefccs8qnd5n@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Feb 2004 02:13:39 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=dkfg2018b30mff46cof4f8chgki4oe80tt%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Former President (and traitor) Bill Clinton's Ties to Communists (as
well as Al Gore Jr's) S_0209
Message-ID: <dkfg2018b30mff46cof4f8chgki4oe80tt@4ax.com>
Date: 10 Feb 2004 02:13:47 GMT
Communists don't believe in "democratic" and fair elections:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=fhgfvv8l8f5gf3uikpml6b07hslr2jbmdq%404ax.com&rnum=8
Subject: Democrats and Voter Fraud Documented and The Communist Backing They
Receive (For your archives) S_0104
Message-ID: <fhgfvv8l8f5gf3uikpml6b07hslr2jbmdq@4ax.com>
Date: 4 Jan 2004 07:34:09 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=fngd20hhnqv51a0oltui57sm0u2si62a5d%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Democratic Socialists in Congress, Their Agenda, Their Values, and
Their FIGHTING Songs! V3.0 S_0208
Message-ID: <fngd20hhnqv51a0oltui57sm0u2si62a5d@4ax.com>
Date: 8 Feb 2004 23:12:27 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=gpu2e09d520ab2gkce5de132saqi2hdknj%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Who says Socialism and Communism aren't the same and are adhered to by
the same people? CP USA Speaks out! V2.5 S_0629
Message-ID: <gpu2e09d520ab2gkce5de132saqi2hdknj@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2004 15:48:54 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5vs5jv80jhvkdjlp8jbmo8fqqp3nd5kd7r%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Are Democrats Now Communists? R_0807
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:50:56 -0500
Message-ID: <5vs5jv80jhvkdjlp8jbmo8fqqp3nd5kd7r@4ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=dnqnf093uoh592d9etc8idtdg5c7butft1%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: John Kerry's Campaign Slogan "Let America Be America Again" is From
Communist Atheist Langston Hughes V2.0
Message-ID: <dnqnf093uoh592d9etc8idtdg5c7butft1@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Jul 2004 15:37:13 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=&selm=dmqnf0ttd7k1eq3k6f9ea3bdgplta3g6rc%404ax.com
Subject: Michael Moore- A Communist? You all Decide + Politics of Other "Bush
Bashers" such as Whoopi Goldberg and Al Franken V2.0
Message-ID: <dmqnf0ttd7k1eq3k6f9ea3bdgplta3g6rc@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Jul 2004
Can anyone name any Liberal Democrat who has ever had problems with
Communists/Communism? I can't!
BTW America is NOT a Democracy-- it is a Constitutional Republic whose
Constitution guarantees a Republican form of government!
My proofs:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=America&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&c2coff=1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Constitutional+Republic&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=off
Results 1 - 20 of about 17,800 for America "Constitutional Republic".
AND
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=f2bk3u8p8v1ipe2fpoadd27p0dnjhuo9up%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Republican Form of Gov't Guaranteed by Constitution & General Welfare
(In Our Forefather's Very Own Words!).
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:21:58 -0600
Message-ID: <f2bk3u8p8v1ipe2fpoadd27p0dnjhuo9up@4ax.com>
Excerpt
Relevant Repost as a Reminder
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The following is a reminder from our nation's historical
documents for those who have lost track or vision of what
America was created to be. It is also a reprimand to those
that wish to undermine our forefather's dreams.
America was not conceived as a Democracy!
Proof:
Constitution of the United States
Article IV, Section 4:
- Republican form of government guaranteed.
Each state to be protected.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican
form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on
Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot
be convened) against domestic Violence."
----end----
This provision does NOT allow for a Social-Democracy or any
form of a Socialistic nor Communistic government.
Here is the pledge that American school children are no longer
being taught. I wonder why. Is it the Neo-Bolshevists in our government seeking
to undermine our heritage and forefather's intentions?
The Pledge of Allegiance:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
I do not see the word democracy in the pledge but I see two words the leftists
wish not to be mentioned in school "republic" and "God."
Below is but a small list of those that are enemies of our Republican form of
government and its Constitution along with their stated agendas and goals. How
much of our forefather's intentions do you think these people believe in or
have any respect in?....
Democratic Socialists of America
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/about/about.html
At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and
end. We are activists committed not only to extending political democracy but to
demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender relations, and in
culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political values but our means of
restructuring society.
[These people forget that the form of government we actually have in America is
a Constitutional Republic! Doc Tavish comment]
[...]
Subject: General Welfare Does NOT Mean a Welfare State Run by Liberals! (Repost)
Date: 11/18/1999
Author: Tavish <doc_tavish@NOSPAMdanetwork.com>
General Welfare- The meaning of and historical meaning thereof:
Articles Of Confederation, Harvard Classics (1910), Vol.43, Pg.169 ARTICLE III.
The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with
each other, for their common defence, the security of their liberties, and their
mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all
force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of
religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretence whatever.
Articles Of Confederation, Harvard Classics (1910), Vol.43, Pg.171 ARTICLE VIII.
All charges of war, and all other expenses that shall be incurred for the common
defence or general welfare, and allowed by the United States in Congress
assembled, shall be defrayed out of a common treasury, which shall be supplied
by the several States, in proportion to the value of all land within each State,
granted to or surveyed for any person, as such land and the buildings and
improvements thereon shall be estimated according to such mode as the United
States in Congress assembled, shall from time to time direct and appoint.
Articles Of Confederation, Harvard Classics (1910), Vol.43, Pg.174 The United
States in Congress assembled shall never engage in a war, nor grant letters of
marque and reprisal in time of peace, nor enter into any treaties or alliances,
nor coin money, nor regulate the value thereof, nor ascertain the sums and
expenses necessary for the defence and welfare of the United States....
THE CONSTITUTION
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a
more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty
to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for
the United States of America.
The Constitution, Article I, Section 8
Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,
Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence
and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States....
Other historical writings show America was not conceived with the welfare state
in mind.
Benjamin Franklin, American Characteristics, America, Vol.4,
Pg.70 - Pg.71
....every one will enjoy securely the profits of his industry. But if he
does not bring a fortune with him, he must work and be industrious to live. One
or two years' residence give him all the rights of a citizen; but the Government
does not at present, whatever it may have done in former times, hire people to
become settlers, by paying their passages, giving land, utensils, stock, or any
other kind of emolument whatsoever. In short, America is the land of labor, and
by no means what the English call Lubberland, and the French Pays de Cocagne,
where the streets are said to be paved with half-peck loaves, the houses tiled
with pancakes, and where the fowls fly about ready roasted, crying, "Come eat
me!" . . .
Historical Almanac of the U.S. Senate, Pg.160
The United States was suffering a terrible depression in 1894, and more
than two million unemployed men wandered the countryside in search of work. The
federal government disclaimed any responsibility for the unemployed, but the
crisis was too severe for local governments and private charities to handle. In
Ohio, affluent businessman Jacob Coxey proposed that the federal government end
the depression by putting unemployed men to work building public roads.
Sympathetic congressmen introduced a "Good Roads bill," but Congress refused to
act.
George Bancroft, History of the United States, Vol.6, Pg.170
In the council of revision strong but not successful objections were
raised. Livingston, the chancellor, set forth that a scarcity of money can be
remedied only by industry and economy, not by laws that foster idleness and
dissipation; that the bill, under the appearance of relief, would add to the
distress of the debtor; that it at the same instant solicited and destroyed
credit; that it would cause the taxes and debts of the state to the United
States to be paid in paper.
History of the American People, Vol.5, Pg.18 - Pg.20
....The country filled with vagrants, looking for pleasure and
gratuitous fortune. Idleness bred want, as always, and the vagrants turned
thieves or importunate beggars. The tasks of ordinary labor stood untouched; the
idlers grew insolent, dangerous; nights went anxiously by, for fear of riot and
incendiary fire. It was imperatively necessary that something should be done, if
only to bring order again and make the streets of the towns and the highways of
the country-sides safe to those who went about their tasks.
E. Benjamin Andrews on the Evils of Reconstruction,
Great Epochs, Vol.9, Pg.68
In their days of serfdom the negroes' besetting sin had been thievery.
Now that the opportunities for this were multiplied, the fear of punishment
gone, and many a carpet-bagger at hand to encourage it, the prevalence of public
and private stealing was not strange. Larceny was nearly universal, burglary
painfully common. At night watch had to be kept over property with dogs and
guns. It was part, or at least an effect, of the carpet-bag policy to aggravate
race jealousies and sectional misunderstandings. The duello, still good form all
over the South, induced disregard of law and of human life. . . .
Roosevelt, On American Motherhood, The World's Famous
Orations, Vol.3, Pg.259
....such a creature merits contempt as hearty as any visited upon the
soldier who runs away in battle, or upon the man who refuses to work for the
support of those dependent upon him, and who tho able-bodied is yet content to
eat in idleness the bread which others provide.
George Bancroft, History of the United States, Vol.1, Pg.96
After the long delayed departure of the ships, the first care of Smith
was to obtain supplies for the colony from the Indians. In the spring of 1610 he
introduced the culture of maize, which was taught by two savages, and thirty or
forty acres were "digged and planted." Authority was employed to enforce
industry; he who would not work might not eat, and six hours in the day were
spent in toil. The gentlemen learned the use of the axe, and became excellent
wood-cutters. Jamestown assumed the appearance of a regular place of abode. It
is worthy of remembrance that Smith proposed to plant a town near the falls of
the river, where the city of Richmond now stands. Eight months of good order
under his rule gave to the colony a period of peace and industry; of order and
health.
History of the American Nation, Vol.1, Pg.131
....Smith explored the harbors and rivers of Chesapeake bay... On his
return, he was, for the first time, formally elected President of the Council.
Industry was now more wisely directed; but in the autumn came another company of
idle and useless emigrants. Smith, indignant that his efforts to improve the
colony should thus be frustrated, wrote to the council to send him but a few
husbandmen and mechanics, and "diggers up of trees' roots," rather than a
thousand such men as had been sent. The complaint was just. During two years
they had not brought under cultivation more than forty acres of land, while the
number of able-bodied men was more than two hundred. The energetic arm of Smith
was soon felt. The first law he made and enforced was, that "He who would not
work should not eat;" the second, that "Each man for six days in the week should
work six hours each day."
From the Bible:
2 Thessalonians 3: 8,10,12,14 says: "...nor did we eat food from anyone free. To
the contrary, by labor and toil night and day we were working so as not to
impose an expensive burden upon any of you. In fact, also, when we were with
you, we used to give you this order: "If anyone does not want to work, neither
let him eat." To such persons we give the order and exhortation in [the] Lord
Jesus Christ that by working with quietness they should eat food they themselves
earn. But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this
one marked, stop associating with him that he might be ashamed." The words of
the Apostle Paul. Would Paul bless our current welfare state?
* * * * * * FINIS * * * * * *
Do you believe the founders of this nation had as its intent to form a Great
Society based on a welfare state; where government would take from the producers
and give a working man's fruits to the willfully unproductive?
The Liberal Democrats state that to provide for the general welfare means to do
as they have been doing- along with buying votes with goods that are not their
own! How many liberal ideas are expressed in the above documents of our
forefathers? The way liberals act in Congress these days- if around during these
periods of time I just wonder if they would have called our forefathers:
"bigots, hatemongers, mean spirited, anti-Semites" or whatever term is used
against those that oppose a communistic, socialistic, cradle to grave nanny
state. People wake up learn your American heritage. We can once again have the
"land of the Pilgrim's pride". Our forefathers are cursed when we allow
communistic and socialist anti-American trolls influence our destiny. This
country was not built on liberal ideas and principles nor is it founded on any
Semite notion. It was founded on Anglo ideas!
Please keep and reread this document nightly until you fully appreciate the
ideas and dreams it represents. As I submit this there are people actively
engaged at turning our land of the "Pilgrim's pride" into just another
"socialist utopia." See it and believe it!
Reference Material taken from:
The Bible - New World Translation
& The CD Sourcebook of American History by
Candlelight Publishing
Doc Tavish aka Tavish The True
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
I am going to re-issue the above post after I update the links in it!
That is a forgotten gem!
Tavish
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