Science > Abortion > Re: Why is birth a determinant if conception, implantation are not?
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"Ray Fischer" |
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16 Oct 2003 08:57:40 AM |
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Re: Why is birth a determinant if conception, implantation are not? |
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Some moment must be chosen to mark the start of a human being's life.
For many sound practical reasons that moment is and has been birth.
Birth has many moments,
Only for pedantic assholes who like to argue.
Such is usenet...get used to it or leave. I was trying to have a
discussion.
No, you're being a pedantic *****.
Stangely enough, the
rest of humanity seems to have very little difficulty in figuring out
when childbirth happens.
And yet you seem to be too stupid to figure it out.
which particular moment and why does that one
imbue a start of humanity?
I didn't write anything about "humanity", moron. Why are you being so
dishonest?
Never said you did
So you're just free-associating and not actually trying to discusss
anything at all.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Hylander" |
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16 Oct 2003 09:58:32 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Some moment must be chosen to mark the start of a human being's life.
For many sound practical reasons that moment is and has been birth.
Birth has many moments,
Only for pedantic assholes who like to argue.
Such is usenet...get used to it or leave. I was trying to have a
discussion.
Apparently, you don't read very well.
Stangely enough, the
rest of humanity seems to have very little difficulty in figuring out
when childbirth happens.
And yet you seem to be too stupid to figure it out.
You seem to be unable to answer anything without getting all hurt and
defensive like a little *****.
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| User: "Patrick Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Why is birth a determinant if conception, implantation are not? |
17 Oct 2003 06:14:42 AM |
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(Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Some moment must be chosen to mark the start of a human being's life.
For many sound practical reasons that moment is and has been birth.
Birth has many moments,
Only for pedantic assholes who like to argue.
Such is usenet...get used to it or leave. I was trying to have a
discussion.
Apparently, you don't read very well.
Apparently, you don't have any more interest in discussion than you did before
you ran away the last time.
Stangely enough, the
rest of humanity seems to have very little difficulty in figuring out
when childbirth happens.
And yet you seem to be too stupid to figure it out.
You seem to be unable to answer anything without getting all hurt and
defensive like a little *****.
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking your
bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually have a
thought, Wheelie.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Hylander" |
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17 Oct 2003 11:38:17 PM |
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Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking your
bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually have a
thought, Wheelie.
You like making fun of people in wheelchairs don't you Pat. It doesn't
amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or those human
organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe oxygen from air
and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic traditions
here) didn't care about it.
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| User: "Patrick Humphrey" |
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18 Oct 2003 09:10:31 AM |
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(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking
your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually
have a thought, Wheelie.
You like making fun of people in wheelchairs don't you Pat.
Not at all, since I *do* know a few who fit that description -- but they're
not anonymous nutless wonders like you portray yourself to be online.
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or those
human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe oxygen from air
and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic traditions here)
didn't care about it.
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you got
86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are times when
you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of what *you*
think. Me, I see the person -- the woman. You're fixated on the Holy Fetus.
If it's not yours, then it's none of your business. That's how I see it.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Hylander" |
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26 Oct 2003 01:46:17 AM |
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Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk8ynitz54.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking
your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually
have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to
newsgroups niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or those
human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe oxygen from air
and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic traditions here)
didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you got
86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are times when
you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of what *you*
think.
I'm just open minded. While you are a close minded misogynist who
feigns women's rights so you can have your free love events. You have
Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come here
and talk for herself. I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for
infecting women with STDs either if it meant you had to be
responsible.
Me, I see the person -- the woman. You're fixated on the Holy Fetus.
If it's not yours, then it's none of your business. That's how I see it.
The human treatment of millions of human beigns is everyone's
business...not just mine or yours. It seems you can't see this because
you only think about yourself and your own sex objects and no one
else.
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| User: "Patrick Humphrey" |
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26 Oct 2003 08:08:47 AM |
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(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk8ynitz54.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking
your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually
have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There are
valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the weak-brained
cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an ***** and not have to be
held accountable for your words. Therefore, you don't get any respect from me.
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or those
human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe oxygen from
air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic traditions
here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you
got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are
times when you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of
what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away long
ago.
While you are a close minded misogynist who feigns women's rights so you can
have your free love events.
*laugh*
You suck at building strawmen, son. The frustration's getting to you, isn't
it? Too bad, even though it shows when you try and make such backhanded
statements as above. The only women's rights you appear to be interested in
are the "rights" to submit to anything you demand -- fortunately, most women
have brains and aren't afraid to use them, so I guess you'll just have to live
with that fact of life.
You have Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come here
and talk for herself.
Really? You mean she can't decide for herself that she trusts me to speak for
both of us? I don't know about you, but that's a responsibility that means
some pretty heavy work, at times -- like, living up to that trust she puts in
me. Not that you'd know about that, though.
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with STDs
either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so logical it
completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to Dale, and she's the
only one who gets me. Other women are right out of luck. (Some of us took
our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you appear to be able to do.)
Me, I see the person -- the woman. You're fixated on the Holy Fetus.
If it's not yours, then it's none of your business. That's how I see it.
The human treatment of millions of human beigns is everyone's
business...not just mine or yours. It seems you can't see this because
you only think about yourself and your own sex objects and no one
else.
You're an arrogant little *****, John. Live with that fact. You're
working up to a fit because you just can't bully me into thinking (to really
stretch the word out of shape) your way. Feel free to continue ramming your
head into the concrete wall repeatedly, though.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Why be anything but honest when dealing with anti-abort kooks?
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| User: "Hylander" |
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26 Oct 2003 08:36:06 PM |
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Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk3cdgf5w0.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk8ynitz54.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just taking
your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you actually
have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There are
valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the weak-brained
cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an ***** and not have to be
held accountable for your words. Therefore, you don't get any respect from me.
Held accountable? What does that mean? You want to pesonally cause me
trouble?
I don't owe any acountability to you....you big asswipe. You want to
punish people for beliefs? If that's what you want, I'll make sure you
get what's coming to you. Who is the ***** here you visciously evil
little *****...
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or those
human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe oxygen from
air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic traditions
here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
No....You didn't reply to me...I did reply to the silence...or rather,
lack or response from you. Figure it out...I suppose you have a neuron
left? How much X are you taking?
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you
got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are
times when you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of
what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away long
ago.
Nope, its people like you who want to enforce their ideas with
brutality towards peaceful prolifers.
While you are a close minded misogynist who feigns women's rights so you can
have your free love events.
are the "rights" to submit to anything you demand -- fortunately, most women
have brains and aren't afraid to use them, so I guess you'll just have to live
with that fact of life.
So why is it your problem? Why can't Dale come and defend herself
against all of us (men and women alike) who represent the unborn
living human organisms.(with the ability to feel pain no less)
You proaborts cannot address the pain or the birth issue at all. You
worship Holy Sex and Holy Feminism (in hypocrisy so you can disguise
your misogyny)
You have Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come here
and talk for herself.
Really? You mean she can't decide for herself that she trusts me to speak for
both of us?
Why don't you put her on. It seems her decision is clearly based on
your idea...not hers.
I don't know about you, but that's a responsibility that means
some pretty heavy work, at times -- like, living up to that trust she puts in
me. Not that you'd know about that, though.
*laugh*. What trust. And why should this woman trust you to talk for
her? Why are you a better talker than her?
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with STDs
either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so logical it
completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to Dale, and she's the
only one who gets me. Other women are right out of luck. (Some of us took
our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you appear to be able to do.)
Well, how about before then? We were talking about your high school
years when you brought it up. What you do in your bedroom is not my
business but what you do to someone else who isn't your chattel in a
hospital is. Would you allow Dale to abort all your children if she
wanted it? Didn't think so.
Me, I see the person -- the woman. You're fixated on the Holy Fetus.
If it's not yours, then it's none of your business. That's how I see it.
The human treatment of millions of human beigns is everyone's
business...not just mine or yours. It seems you can't see this because
you only think about yourself and your own sex objects and no one
else.
You're an arrogant little *****, John. Live with that fact. You're
working up to a fit because you just can't bully me into thinking (to really
stretch the word out of shape) your way.
Bully? You want my personal info so you can "make me accountable" for
what I say....sounds like someone here has some time on their hands.
Your reply count is a lot higher than mine on this group....it seems
you have a vendetta against anyone who stands up for their own
beleifs. You don't seem interested in being persuaded...I'm more
interested in defending my beliefs. But you raise an interesting
topic...what is the most persuasive argument that prolifers have
offered or is your thinking completely black and white here and unable
to look at possibly valid arguements coming from a stance different
than yours? Then again, I know the answer...you indicate that close
mindedness is a virtue by the way you address open mindedness.
Feel free to continue ramming your
head into the concrete wall repeatedly, though.
You reply, I reply back. I never initiated it so feel free to ram your
head against a wall. You aren't convincing me or any pro-lifer or
whatever you want to call them to your cause either Pat.
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| User: "Patrick Humphrey" |
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26 Oct 2003 10:50:22 PM |
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(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk3cdgf5w0.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk8ynitz54.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szk4qy8yv31.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
(Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just
taking your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you
actually have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There are
valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the weak-brained
cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an ***** and not have to be
held accountable for your words. Therefore, you don't get any respect from
me.
Held accountable? What does that mean? You want to pesonally cause me
trouble?
I'm already causing you trouble, Nutless Wonder. You're too full of yourself
to tolerate anyone poking holes in your fantasy. You don't understand what
being accountable for your actions is about? I guess life is going to suck
with a vengeance, in your case...and I won't have anything to do with that. I
may get to watch, though.
I don't owe any acountability to you....you big asswipe. You want to
punish people for beliefs? If that's what you want, I'll make sure you
get what's coming to you. Who is the ***** here you visciously evil
little *****...
Look in the mirror, son. There's the answer to *that* question.
(Incidentally, I don't intimidate very easily. If you're going to repeat your
little banty rooster act, you're going to have to put some effort into it.)
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or
those human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe
oxygen from air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic
traditions here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
No....You didn't reply to me...I did reply to the silence...or rather,
lack or response from you. Figure it out...I suppose you have a neuron
left? How much X are you taking?
Why should I be expected to respond to YOUR mental masturbation, Wheelie? You
can't even lie credibly.
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you
got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are
times when you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of
what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away long
ago.
Nope, its people like you who want to enforce their ideas with brutality
towards peaceful prolifers.
Yeah, telling me I'm doing drugs is really peaceful. Maybe if you could be
bothered to deal with what reality is, rather than what you wish it was, you
might be worth a more considerate response than the metaphorical boot to your
head.
While you are a close minded misogynist who feigns women's rights so you
can have your free love events.
are the "rights" to submit to anything you demand -- fortunately, most
women have brains and aren't afraid to use them, so I guess you'll just
have to live with that fact of life.
Creative editing, there...what's the matter, didn't want to deal with my
categorical statement about your content-free assertions about my life?
That's SOP for you.
So why is it your problem? Why can't Dale come and defend herself
against all of us (men and women alike) who represent the unborn
living human organisms.(with the ability to feel pain no less)
Because she chooses to let me do the typing for both of us. That's all you
need to know, and if you get obnoxious enough to try and force your way into
our lives, she'll let you know in no uncertain terms.
You proaborts cannot address the pain or the birth issue at all. You
worship Holy Sex and Holy Feminism (in hypocrisy so you can disguise
your misogyny)
So, you're a delusional little *****. I'm not at all surprised.
You have Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come
here and talk for herself.
Really? You mean she can't decide for herself that she trusts me to speak
for both of us?
Why don't you put her on. It seems her decision is clearly based on
your idea...not hers.
Neither one of us give a damn what some blithering moron up in some snotty
suburban enclave thinks about what *we* think.
I don't know about you, but that's a responsibility that means some pretty
heavy work, at times -- like, living up to that trust she puts in me. Not
that you'd know about that, though.
*laugh*. What trust. And why should this woman trust you to talk for
her? Why are you a better talker than her?
Why are you such a pathetic fuckup of an anti-abort loon? We trust each
other, and if you can't figure that out, I have to wonder if you're not lying
about being married, yourself. People aren't mass-produced carbon copies,
whether you understand or not.
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with STDs
either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so logical
it completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to Dale, and she's
the only one who gets me. Other women are right out of luck. (Some of us
took our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you appear to be able to
do.)
Well, how about before then? We were talking about your high school
years when you brought it up. What you do in your bedroom is not my
business but what you do to someone else who isn't your chattel in a
hospital is. Would you allow Dale to abort all your children if she
wanted it? Didn't think so.
You don't think at all, son. That issue that's got you all hot and bothered
isn't going to be an issue for us, for reasons you'll eventually understand,
assuming you live long enough to learn about basic human development. She's
never aborted, and neither has her daughter -- both of whom chose to give
birth. ***** your pants because they didn't ask your opinion.
Me, I see the person -- the woman. You're fixated on the Holy Fetus.
If it's not yours, then it's none of your business. That's how I see it.
The human treatment of millions of human beigns is everyone's
business...not just mine or yours. It seems you can't see this because
you only think about yourself and your own sex objects and no one
else.
You're an arrogant little *****, John. Live with that fact. You're
working up to a fit because you just can't bully me into thinking (to really
stretch the word out of shape) your way.
Bully? You want my personal info so you can "make me accountable" for
what I say....sounds like someone here has some time on their hands.
You're a liar, as usual. Point out precisely where I said I want *your*
personal details. (You'll have to deal with me stating just the opposite, but
I understand you're skilled at denying such inconvenient facts.)
Your reply count is a lot higher than mine on this group....it seems
you have a vendetta against anyone who stands up for their own
beleifs.
Stand up for your beliefs all you want, boy -- try and force them on anyone
else, and don't whine when you get your gimpy ***** kicked. Grasp the common
sense embedded in that opinion.
You don't seem interested in being persuaded...I'm more interested in
defending my beliefs.
Demanding that others bow to your beliefs isn't defending them.
But you raise an interesting topic...what is the most persuasive argument
that prolifers have offered or is your thinking completely black and white
here and unable to look at possibly valid arguements coming from a stance
different than yours? Then again, I know the answer...you indicate that close
mindedness is a virtue by the way you address open mindedness.
Of course, you assume you know the answer before you bother to read...which
only makes it logical that I reply to you with the respect you've earned by
being such a presumptuous little *****.
Feel free to continue ramming your head into the concrete wall repeatedly,
though.
You reply, I reply back. I never initiated it so feel free to ram your
head against a wall. You aren't convincing me or any pro-lifer or
whatever you want to call them to your cause either Pat.
Take it up with Pat, though she'll be no more kind to you than I am -- you're
talking to me, and I'm Patrick. I've answered to nothing else for almost as
long as I've been pro-choice, though the two events are in no way connected by
anything but coincidence.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szku15vs2r5.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
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You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just
taking your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when you
actually have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There are
valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the weak-brained
cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an ***** and not have to be
held accountable for your words. Therefore, you don't get any respect from
me.
Held accountable? What does that mean? You want to pesonally cause me
trouble?
I'm already causing you trouble, Nutless Wonder.
Not really. Did you do something already that I can sue you for that I
don't know about yet? I'll get back to you then.
You're too full of yourself
to tolerate anyone poking holes in your fantasy. You don't understand what
being accountable for your actions is about? I guess life is going to suck
with a vengeance, in your case...and I won't have anything to do with that. I
may get to watch, though.
No, I could care less about your idle threats or your perspective.
That's why I'm snipping most of your voraciously vomitted bile here.
Look in the mirror, son.
You know I'm not part of your Louisianna culture so please don't call
me that. That paints a disgusting picture.
There's the answer to *that* question.
(Incidentally, I don't intimidate very easily. If you're going to repeat your
little banty rooster act, you're going to have to put some effort into it.)
Incidentally you do...hence the reply.
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or
those human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe
oxygen from air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some basic
traditions here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
No....You didn't reply to me...I did reply to the silence...or rather,
lack or response from you. Figure it out...I suppose you have a neuron
left? How much X are you taking?
Why should I be expected to respond to YOUR mental masturbation, Wheelie? You
can't even lie credibly.
You still don't have a clue.
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before you
got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and there are
times when you show some convincing evidence that you're none too sure of
what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away long
ago.
Nope, its people like you who want to enforce their ideas with brutality
towards peaceful prolifers.
Yeah, telling me I'm doing drugs is really peaceful.
I asked if you were cause it seems like you do....unlike Ray, I didn't
accuse you. (ie:like he does of lying per se). You should ask the
peaceful drug taking liberals of other countries if drugs is not a
peaceful thing to them. I suppose a peacepipe is also foreign to you.
You assume too much. (for your own good)
Maybe if you could be
bothered to deal with what reality is, rather than what you wish it was, you
might be worth a more considerate response than the metaphorical boot to your
head.
Don't bother getting too deep about reality Patrick. You're liable to
get lost.
It looks like you are wishing the ability to emulate my well-mastered
"boot to the head" move. (last time you tried, I think you lost your
toe)
[snipping a bunch of bs about snipping]
So why is it your problem? Why can't Dale come and defend herself
against all of us (men and women alike) who represent the unborn
living human organisms.(with the ability to feel pain no less)
Because she chooses to let me do the typing for both of us.
Sounds rather subjugated. The topic should affect her more than you.
Is she totally helpless? I'd understand a single guy in college
wanting to come here and debate on the prochoice side...but you are
pathetically hippocritical.
That's all you
need to know, and if you get obnoxious enough to try and force your way into
our lives, she'll let you know in no uncertain terms.
You know, that was in fact all I really wanted to know. I really
really don't want to know anything past that about your relationship.
Fair enough?
You proaborts cannot address the pain or the birth issue at all. You
worship Holy Sex and Holy Feminism (in hypocrisy so you can disguise
your misogyny)
So, you're a delusional little *****. I'm not at all surprised.
You think your da bomb with women. It turns out you're just a *****
who uses and subjugates them and can't appreciate them....not
surprising you also have cocksucking issues that are coming out now. I
think your buddies in Montrose were looking for you. You could also
try the blue little pill if you aren't happy Patsy.
You have Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come
here and talk for herself.
Really? You mean she can't decide for herself that she trusts me to speak
for both of us?
Why don't you put her on. It seems her decision is clearly based on
your idea...not hers.
Neither one of us give a damn what some blithering moron up in some snotty
suburban enclave thinks about what *we* think.
enclave eh? Don't tell me, you write for Martha Stewart Living on the
side. You really have a lot of these issues. Next you'll want to
decorate my parlour.
I don't know about you, but that's a responsibility that means some pretty
heavy work, at times -- like, living up to that trust she puts in me. Not
that you'd know about that, though.
*laugh*. What trust. And why should this woman trust you to talk for
her? Why are you a better talker than her?
Why are you such a pathetic fuckup of an anti-abort loon? We trust each
other, and if you can't figure that out, I have to wonder if you're not lying
about being married, yourself. People aren't mass-produced carbon copies,
whether you understand or not.
Why are you such a sick busy-body pro-abort ***** who can't shut his
fat ***** hole? I wonder if Dale is even a woman after all. I get the
impression she trusts you talk for her everwhere she goes. I don't buy
it. You start off talking *****...you ended up talking about "trust"?
Yah right. Physics tells us that ***** tends to "stream" for those with
diarrhea of the mouth.
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with STDs
either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so logical
it completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to Dale, and she's
the only one who gets me. Other women are right out of luck. (Some of us
took our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you appear to be able to
do.)
Well, how about before then? We were talking about your high school
years when you brought it up. What you do in your bedroom is not my
business but what you do to someone else who isn't your chattel in a
hospital is. Would you allow Dale to abort all your children if she
wanted it? Didn't think so.
You don't think at all, son.
ew....you did it again. Please...no need to use your sickening
endearments. You can barely think past what the reply was about.
You reply, I reply back. I never initiated it so feel free to ram your
head against a wall. You aren't convincing me or any pro-lifer or
whatever you want to call them to your cause either Pat.
Take it up with Pat, though she'll be no more kind to you than I am -- you're
talking to me, and I'm Patrick. I've answered to nothing else for almost as
long as I've been pro-choice, though the two events are in no way connected by
anything but coincidence.
Ok, "PATPRICK". It was directed at you...not the other Pat. Mastered
conversation flow and gist yet? Didn't think so.
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29 Oct 2003 09:59:13 AM |
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(Hylander) writes:
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(Hylander) writes:
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(Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
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You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just
taking your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when
you actually have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There
are valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the
weak-brained cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an *****
and not have to be held accountable for your words. Therefore, you
don't get any respect from me.
Held accountable? What does that mean? You want to pesonally cause me
trouble?
I'm already causing you trouble, Nutless Wonder.
Not really. Did you do something already that I can sue you for that I don't
know about yet? I'll get back to you then.
I'll take that to mean you're already "investigating" me. If you're going to
make the assertion, you get to prove it -- so you'll have to lie, as usual.
Most courts take a dim view of perjury, though.
You're too full of yourself to tolerate anyone poking holes in your
fantasy. You don't understand what being accountable for your actions is
about? I guess life is going to suck with a vengeance, in your case...and
I won't have anything to do with that. I may get to watch, though.
No, I could care less about your idle threats or your perspective.
That's why I'm snipping most of your voraciously vomitted bile here.
Please tell the cops that someone's holding a gun to your pointy little head
and forcing you to read anything I post. They'll enjoy the laugh.
Look in the mirror, son.
You know I'm not part of your Louisianna culture so please don't call
me that. That paints a disgusting picture.
Appalachian != "Louisanna", son. (Now you'll just get a few Cajuns laughing
at you, as well, since you can't even spell Louisiana. This Kentucky native
can. Why is that, I wonder?)
There's the answer to *that* question. (Incidentally, I don't intimidate
very easily. If you're going to repeat your little banty rooster act,
you're going to have to put some effort into it.)
Incidentally you do...hence the reply.
Keep repeating that mantra. It'll be all the more entertaining in the event
you go to the trouble of confronting me and you find out how wrong you are.
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or
those human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe
oxygen from air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some
basic traditions here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
No....You didn't reply to me...I did reply to the silence...or rather,
lack or response from you. Figure it out...I suppose you have a neuron
left? How much X are you taking?
Why should I be expected to respond to YOUR mental masturbation, Wheelie?
You can't even lie credibly.
You still don't have a clue.
That explains why I've given you enough to sink the Texas and you still can't
find any of them with a map and both hands.
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before
you got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and
there are times when you show some convincing evidence that you're
none too sure of what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away
long ago.
Nope, its people like you who want to enforce their ideas with brutality
towards peaceful prolifers.
Yeah, telling me I'm doing drugs is really peaceful.
I asked if you were cause it seems like you do....unlike Ray, I didn't
accuse you. (ie:like he does of lying per se).
No, you just insinuate it and then try and claim "I didn't say that!". It
might be a way to influence people, but it's not much good for making friends.
You should ask the peaceful drug taking liberals of other countries if drugs
is not a peaceful thing to them. I suppose a peacepipe is also foreign to
you. You assume too much. (for your own good)
I suppose you think you have something to say. Unfortunately for you, the
only drug I'm interested in is the one I'm stuck with at the moment --
Vancomycin, one gram dissolved in 250cc of 0.9% saline solution, as a means
of rooting out a bone infection in my right foot.
Maybe if you could be bothered to deal with what reality is, rather than
what you wish it was, you might be worth a more considerate response than
the metaphorical boot to your head.
Don't bother getting too deep about reality Patrick. You're liable to
get lost.
Keep trying to convince yourself of that.
It looks like you are wishing the ability to emulate my well-mastered
"boot to the head" move. (last time you tried, I think you lost your
toe)
You don't think, though. (I lost one toe in January and three in May, for
reasons you had nothing to do with...and once the smaller foot heals in the
next month, we can always see if I can boot you through the uprights from
about the 35.)
[snipping a bunch of bs about snipping]
So why is it your problem? Why can't Dale come and defend herself
against all of us (men and women alike) who represent the unborn
living human organisms.(with the ability to feel pain no less)
Because she chooses to let me do the typing for both of us.
Sounds rather subjugated. The topic should affect her more than you.
....so, of course, it affects *you* more than anyone else hanging around here.
(She's laughing at you, and I'd rather you mind your own business than trying
to manage my marriage for me. We do that well enough by ourselves, and your
"help" isn't needed.)
Is she totally helpless? I'd understand a single guy in college
wanting to come here and debate on the prochoice side...but you are
pathetically hippocritical.
Why would I go to the zoo and criticize hippos? She's anything but helpless
-- and she chooses to let me be the point man for the two of us. ***** your
pants about it if you want to, but we'll laugh at you just the same.
That's all you need to know, and if you get obnoxious enough to try and
force your way into our lives, she'll let you know in no uncertain terms.
You know, that was in fact all I really wanted to know. I really
really don't want to know anything past that about your relationship.
Fair enough?
I suggest you killfile me now, then. Oops! You don't have enough of a spine
to do even that much.
You proaborts cannot address the pain or the birth issue at all. You
worship Holy Sex and Holy Feminism (in hypocrisy so you can disguise
your misogyny)
So, you're a delusional little *****. I'm not at all surprised.
You think your da bomb with women.
At least I think...you're just acting like the overgrown twelve-year-old that
you are. (I don't have to worry about any woman but my wife, and we both take
those wedding vows a bit more seriously than you ever will.)
It turns out you're just a ***** who uses and subjugates them and can't
appreciate them....not surprising you also have cocksucking issues that are
coming out now.
What a surprise -- you're back to the Nazikooks' fantasies about me being gay,
when I'm straighter than you are, Gimpy. Why is my marriage your business?
(At least I didn't buy my wife at the Megaplexx on I-45 -- how much *do* you
spend on duct tape and Krazy Glue, again?)
I think your buddies in Montrose were looking for you.
I think you have me confused with someone who takes you seriously.
You could also try the blue little pill if you aren't happy Patsy.
You're obviously trying the little pink pills that Rush admitted to.
You have Dale completely subjugated to your politics that she won't come
here and talk for herself.
Really? You mean she can't decide for herself that she trusts me to
speak for both of us?
Why don't you put her on. It seems her decision is clearly based on
your idea...not hers.
Neither one of us give a damn what some blithering moron up in some snotty
suburban enclave thinks about what *we* think.
enclave eh? Don't tell me, you write for Martha Stewart Living on the
side. You really have a lot of these issues. Next you'll want to
decorate my parlour.
You misspelled "demolish" -- and I'm looking forward to Martha's forthcoming
TV series, "This Old Cell".
I don't know about you, but that's a responsibility that means some
pretty heavy work, at times -- like, living up to that trust she puts in
me. Not that you'd know about that, though.
*laugh*. What trust. And why should this woman trust you to talk for
her? Why are you a better talker than her?
Why are you such a pathetic fuckup of an anti-abort loon? We trust each
other, and if you can't figure that out, I have to wonder if you're not
lying about being married, yourself. People aren't mass-produced carbon
copies, whether you understand or not.
Why are you such a sick busy-body pro-abort ***** who can't shut his
fat ***** hole?
Because it pisses overgrown teenage thugs like you to no end, and it's fun
watching you machine-gun your own feet when you get into a rage.
I wonder if Dale is even a woman after all.
You might want to ask her daughter that...but I know she is, considering I'm
the one married to her. (If she's not a woman, I'll praise her plastic
surgeon until the cows come home.)
I get the impression she trusts you talk for her everwhere she goes. I don't
buy it.
Neither do I, since it's your impotent fantasy we're talking about. She
speaks for herself well enough in the situations she chooses. She just
doesn't choose to waste her time arguing with *****-ups like you.
You start off talking *****...you ended up talking about "trust"?
Yah right. Physics tells us that ***** tends to "stream" for those with
diarrhea of the mouth.
You're a jealous little *****, son. Live with it.
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with
STDs either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so
logical it completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to
Dale, and she's the only one who gets me. Other women are right out of
luck. (Some of us took our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you
appear to be able to do.)
Well, how about before then? We were talking about your high school
years when you brought it up. What you do in your bedroom is not my
business but what you do to someone else who isn't your chattel in a
hospital is. Would you allow Dale to abort all your children if she
wanted it? Didn't think so.
You don't think at all, son.
ew....you did it again. Please...no need to use your sickening
endearments. You can barely think past what the reply was about.
Sorry, son, you don't decide how I address you. Don't like it? Whine, *****,
WHINE!
You reply, I reply back. I never initiated it so feel free to ram your
head against a wall. You aren't convincing me or any pro-lifer or whatever
you want to call them to your cause either Pat.
Take it up with Pat, though she'll be no more kind to you than I am --
you're talking to me, and I'm Patrick. I've answered to nothing else for
almost as long as I've been pro-choice, though the two events are in no way
connected by anything but coincidence.
Ok, "PATPRICK". It was directed at you...not the other Pat. Mastered
conversation flow and gist yet? Didn't think so.
You don't think, Hitlerjugend reject. You just bellow. I just laugh at your
inability to make me do anything.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkoew0ox0u.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szku15vs2r5.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
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dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
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dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
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dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
You seem to be unable to do anything but accuse others of not just
taking your bleatings as the unquestioned truth. Wake me up when
you actually have a thought, Wheelie.
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to newsgroups
niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
What you suppose has very little to do with reality, as usual. There
are valid reasons for posting anonymously, but you're one of the
weak-brained cowards who uses your anonymity so you can be an *****
and not have to be held accountable for your words. Therefore, you
don't get any respect from me.
Held accountable? What does that mean? You want to pesonally cause me
trouble?
I'm already causing you trouble, Nutless Wonder.
Not really. Did you do something already that I can sue you for that I don't
know about yet? I'll get back to you then.
I'll take that to mean you're already "investigating" me. If you're going to
make the assertion, you get to prove it -- so you'll have to lie, as usual.
Most courts take a dim view of perjury, though.
If I had any time in my day, I'd investigate you. Fortunate for you, I
don't. Something about picking on a bald-footed freak with foot rot
that seeps up to the brain stem doesn't seem to tickle me enough.
You're too full of yourself to tolerate anyone poking holes in your
fantasy. You don't understand what being accountable for your actions is
about? I guess life is going to suck with a vengeance, in your case...and
I won't have anything to do with that. I may get to watch, though.
No, I could care less about your idle threats or your perspective.
That's why I'm snipping most of your voraciously vomitted bile here.
Please tell the cops that someone's holding a gun to your pointy little head
and forcing you to read anything I post. They'll enjoy the laugh.
Perhaps you can then explain how you wanted to kick ***** but couldn't
(and then you can show them your feet). Perhaps you should have put
the ice skates on right side up when you play ice hockey. Let them
know so they'll sympathize with you and your fat noggin.
Look in the mirror, <snipped gross, disgusting allusion to filial relations>.
You know I'm not part of your Louisianna culture so please don't call
me that. That paints a disgusting picture.
Appalachian != "Louisanna", son. (Now you'll just get a few Cajuns laughing
at you, as well, since you can't even spell Louisiana. This Kentucky native
can. Why is that, I wonder?)
At least I have all my fingers...even though I admit I had perhaps one
too many javas when I typed that.
There's the answer to *that* question. (Incidentally, I don't intimidate
very easily. If you're going to repeat your little banty rooster act,
you're going to have to put some effort into it.)
Incidentally you do...hence the reply.
Keep repeating that mantra. It'll be all the more entertaining in the event
you go to the trouble of confronting me and you find out how wrong you are.
I don't need to repeat things in my head to keep them there like you
Patprick.
You can suck my big toe...(since you don't have *one*)
It doesn't amaze me that you think even less of women or infants or
those human organisms whose only crime was that they don't breathe
oxygen from air and their "host" (mother for those who honor some
basic traditions here) didn't care about it.
Yep, you do think even less then. The lack of direct reply and silence
is noted.
Way to go, Einstein. You're arguing with your own statement. (Check the
attributions and count the chevrons. You *can* count, can't you?)
No....You didn't reply to me...I did reply to the silence...or rather,
lack or response from you. Figure it out...I suppose you have a neuron
left? How much X are you taking?
Why should I be expected to respond to YOUR mental masturbation, Wheelie?
You can't even lie credibly.
You still don't have a clue.
That explains why I've given you enough to sink the Texas and you still can't
find any of them with a map and both hands.
LOL...read it again moron....(if it will be less than 20 times before
you get it)
It doesn't amaze me that you're the same arrogant SOB you were before
you got 86ed last time, either. You don't know what I think, and
there are times when you show some convincing evidence that you're
none too sure of what *you* think.
I'm just open minded.
Too bad you're so open-minded that your brain fell out and bounced away
long ago.
Nope, its people like you who want to enforce their ideas with brutality
towards peaceful prolifers.
Yeah, telling me I'm doing drugs is really peaceful.
I asked if you were cause it seems like you do....unlike Ray, I didn't
accuse you. (ie:like he does of lying per se).
No, you just insinuate it and then try and claim "I didn't say that!". It
might be a way to influence people, but it's not much good for making friends.
Would your wife's last name happen to be "Carnegie"? (*****! I'm in an
alternate universe again!)
You should ask the peaceful drug taking liberals of other countries if drugs
is not a peaceful thing to them. I suppose a peacepipe is also foreign to
you. You assume too much. (for your own good)
I suppose you think you have something to say. Unfortunately for you, the
only drug I'm interested in is the one I'm stuck with at the moment --
Vancomycin, one gram dissolved in 250cc of 0.9% saline solution, as a means
of rooting out a bone infection in my right foot.
You could use some Vicodin and Oxycontin too... For an infection that
deep....you must have.... Are you auto-cannibalistic? (warning to
younger readers like Ray,Pat& Kris: looking this up in dictionary will
give you a graphic shock to your imagination.... drink isopropyl as
needed to put out mind's eye)
Maybe if you could be bothered to deal with what reality is, rather than
what you wish it was, you might be worth a more considerate response than
the metaphorical boot to your head.
Don't bother getting too deep about reality Patrick. You're liable to
get lost.
Keep trying to convince yourself of that.
How do you keep Patprick busy? (hand him a card with "turn over" on
both sides)
It looks like you are wishing the ability to emulate my well-mastered
"boot to the head" move. (last time you tried, I think you lost your
toe)
You don't think, though. (I lost one toe in January and three in May, for
reasons you had nothing to do with...and once the smaller foot heals in the
next month, we can always see if I can boot you through the uprights from
about the 35.)
You ran short of sausage links at your last family breakfast?
Unfortunately, you will never see your stubs make any impact here.
Because it pisses overgrown teenage thugs like you to no end, and it's fun
watching you machine-gun your own feet when you get into a rage.
No, I have all my toes.
I wonder if Dale is even a woman after all.
You might want to ask her daughter that...but I know she is, considering I'm
the one married to her. (If she's not a woman, I'll praise her plastic
surgeon until the cows come home.)
Don't underestimate your cataracts. At least you're now acknowledging
possibilities you haven't considered before. Still too bad they left
the pointy headed face intact.
I get the impression she trusts you talk for her everwhere she goes. I don't
buy it.
Neither do I, since it's your impotent fantasy we're talking about. She
speaks for herself well enough in the situations she chooses. She just
doesn't choose to waste her time arguing with *****-ups like you.
You start off talking *****...you ended up talking about "trust"?
Yah right. Physics tells us that ***** tends to "stream" for those with
diarrhea of the mouth.
You're a jealous little *****, son. Live with it.
You are only proving my point about inertia. I see the diarrhea still
hasn't stopped flowing. Perhaps you need a stub to suck on and it
would satiate your projected fantasies and stop the flow at the same
time. You could try yoga.
I suppose you wouldn't claim responsibility for infecting women with
STDs either if it meant you had to be responsible.
I don't claim responsibility for it for one simple reason that's so
logical it completely eludes you -- I'm monogamous. I'm married to
Dale, and she's the only one who gets me. Other women are right out of
luck. (Some of us took our wedding vows a bit more seriously than you
appear to be able to do.)
Well, how about before then? We were talking about your high school
years when you brought it up. What you do in your bedroom is not my
business but what you do to someone else who isn't your chattel in a
hospital is. Would you allow Dale to abort all your children if she
wanted it? Didn't think so.
You don't think at all, son.
ew....you did it again. Please...no need to use your sickening
endearments. You can barely think past what the reply was about.
Sorry, son, you don't decide how I address you. Don't like it? Whine, *****,
WHINE!
I don't decide how the crap flows but I can decide what it's made of.
Disney lied to you...fantasies don't come true! BTW, do you prefer
Stubby, Patprick or Stilts?
You reply, I reply back. I never initiated it so feel free to ram your
head against a wall. You aren't convincing me or any pro-lifer or whatever
you want to call them to your cause either Pat.
Take it up with Pat, though she'll be no more kind to you than I am --
you're talking to me, and I'm Patrick. I've answered to nothing else for
almost as long as I've been pro-choice, though the two events are in no way
connected by anything but coincidence.
Ok, "PATPRICK". It was directed at you...not the other Pat. Mastered
conversation flow and gist yet? Didn't think so.
You don't think, Hitlerjugend reject. You just bellow. I just laugh at your
inability to make me do anything.
If thinking means cooking my toes every time I run out of sausage, I'd
rather not...at least like you do. Addressing someone as your kin or
imagining the plastic surgury between you and Ms. Carnegie-Humphrey
would probably make anyone lose all desire to think. I'm sorry the
circus couldn't pick you up this time Patprick but at least you got
someone who can write self-help by your side.
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(trimmed back to four levels -- don't like it? Here's a nickel. Call someone
who cares.)
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkoew0ox0u.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com (Hylander) writes:
Patrick Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szku15vs2r5.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
[...]
I'm already causing you trouble, Nutless Wonder.
Not really. Did you do something already that I can sue you for that I
don't know about yet? I'll get back to you then.
I'll take that to mean you're already "investigating" me. If you're going
to make the assertion, you get to prove it -- so you'll have to lie, as
usual. Most courts take a dim view of perjury, though.
If I had any time in my day, I'd investigate you. Fortunate for you, I
don't. Something about picking on a bald-footed freak with foot rot
that seeps up to the brain stem doesn't seem to tickle me enough.
Hey, it's your fantasy -- too bad it has very little to do with the reality.
You're too full of yourself to tolerate anyone poking holes in your
fantasy. You don't understand what being accountable for your actions
is about? I guess life is going to suck with a vengeance, in your
case...and I won't have anything to do with that. I may get to watch,
though.
No, I could care less about your idle threats or your perspective.
That's why I'm snipping most of your voraciously vomitted bile here.
Please tell the cops that someone's holding a gun to your pointy little head
and forcing you to read anything I post. They'll enjoy the laugh.
Perhaps you can then explain how you wanted to kick ***** but couldn't
(and then you can show them your feet). Perhaps you should have put
the ice skates on right side up when you play ice hockey. Let them
know so they'll sympathize with you and your fat noggin.
Whining to the cops again, are you? That's no surprise. Control freaks like
you tend to do that.
Look in the mirror, <snipped gross, disgusting allusion to filial
relations>.
You know I'm not part of your Louisianna culture so please don't call
me that. That paints a disgusting picture.
Appalachian != "Louisanna", son. (Now you'll just get a few Cajuns laughing
at you, as well, since you can't even spell Louisiana. This Kentucky native
can. Why is that, I wonder?)
At least I have all my fingers...even though I admit I had perhaps one
too many javas when I typed that.
I've got all my fingers, as well -- what makes you think otherwise? (Delete
"otherwise" and it's an equally valid question, in your case.) Maybe you need
a case of Red Bull.
There's the answer to *that* question. (Incidentally, I don't intimidate
very easily. If you're going to repeat your little banty rooster act,
you're going to have to put some effort into it.)
Incidentally you do...hence the reply.
Keep repeating that mantra. It'll be all the more entertaining in the event
you go to the trouble of confronting me and you find out how wrong you are.
I don't need to repeat things in my head to keep them there like you
Patprick. You can suck my big toe...(since you don't have *one*)
Really? Your imagination is vivid, but it's hardly accurate. Would you mind
telling me how many toes I have? I'll appreciate the laugh.
[...]
Why should I be expected to respond to YOUR mental masturbation, Wheelie?
You can't even lie credibly.
You still don't have a clue.
That explains why I've given you enough to sink the Texas and you still
can't find any of them with a map and both hands.
LOL...read it again moron....(if it will be less than 20 times before
you get it)
I'm sorry, but I'm literate. I sussed it the first time. If you're going to
post content-free crap, could you go somewhere more appropriate, like
alt.revisionism?
[...]
Yeah, telling me I'm doing drugs is really peaceful.
I asked if you were cause it seems like you do....unlike Ray, I didn't
accuse you. (ie:like he does of lying per se).
No, you just insinuate it and then try and claim "I didn't say that!". It
might be a way to influence people, but it's not much good for making
friends.
Would your wife's last name happen to be "Carnegie"? (*****! I'm in an
alternate universe again!)
You evidently live in it, son. Have fun.
You should ask the peaceful drug taking liberals of other countries if
drugs is not a peaceful thing to them. I suppose a peacepipe is also
foreign to you. You assume too much. (for your own good)
I suppose you think you have something to say. Unfortunately for you, the
only drug I'm interested in is the one I'm stuck with at the moment --
Vancomycin, one gram dissolved in 250cc of 0.9% saline solution, as a means
of rooting out a bone infection in my right foot.
You could use some Vicodin and Oxycontin too... For an infection that
deep....you must have.... Are you auto-cannibalistic? (warning to
younger readers like Ray,Pat& Kris: looking this up in dictionary will
give you a graphic shock to your imagination.... drink isopropyl as
needed to put out mind's eye)
Why should I need your worthless remedy? (Isopropyl is handy for cleaning the
IV ports, though -- gotta keep the catheter site as sterile as possible.)
I've got a prescription for codeine, for pain -- haven't used it yet. The
foot's healing, so I guess your daydream is a waste of time again.
Maybe if you could be bothered to deal with what reality is, rather than
what you wish it was, you might be worth a more considerate response than
the metaphorical boot to your head.
Don't bother getting too deep about reality Patrick. You're liable to
get lost.
Keep trying to convince yourself of that.
How do you keep Patprick busy? (hand him a card with "turn over" on
both sides)
Sorry, I didn't go to A&M.
It looks like you are wishing the ability to emulate my well-mastered
"boot to the head" move. (last time you tried, I think you lost your
toe)
You don't think, though. (I lost one toe in January and three in May, for
reasons you had nothing to do with...and once the smaller foot heals in the
next month, we can always see if I can boot you through the uprights from
about the 35.)
You ran short of sausage links at your last family breakfast?
Unfortunately, you will never see your stubs make any impact here.
Of course not -- because you'll never confront me. Tell me something I don't
know.
Because it pisses overgrown teenage thugs like you to no end, and it's fun
watching you machine-gun your own feet when you get into a rage.
No, I have all my toes.
Too bad you ditched most of your brain, though.
I wonder if Dale is even a woman after all.
You might want to ask her daughter that...but I know she is, considering I'm
the one married to her. (If she's not a woman, I'll praise her plastic
surgeon until the cows come home.)
Don't underestimate your cataracts. At least you're now acknowledging
possibilities you haven't considered before. Still too bad they left
the pointy headed face intact.
Can you find a more appropriate newsgroup for your bizarre fantasies, like
alt.drunken.bastards?
[...]
You start off talking *****...you ended up talking about "trust"?
Yah right. Physics tells us that ***** tends to "stream" for those with
diarrhea of the mouth.
You're a jealous little *****, son. Live with it.
You are only proving my point about inertia. I see the diarrhea still
hasn't stopped flowing. Perhaps you need a stub to suck on and it
would satiate your projected fantasies and stop the flow at the same
time. You could try yoga.
Keep on whining. How does it feel to be dancing to the pull of the strings?
[...]
You don't think at all, son.
ew....you did it again. Please...no need to use your sickening
endearments. You can barely think past what the reply was about.
Sorry, son, you don't decide how I address you. Don't like it? Whine,
*****, WHINE!
I don't decide how the crap flows but I can decide what it's made of.
Really? Have fun trying to make me address you in any way but what I choose.
(Congratulations on taking your first step towards kookdom.)
Disney lied to you...fantasies don't come true! BTW, do you prefer
Stubby, Patprick or Stilts?
They're your fantasies. I can laugh at all of them equally.
[...]
Take it up with Pat, though she'll be no more kind to you than I am --
you're talking to me, and I'm Patrick. I've answered to nothing else
for almost as long as I've been pro-choice, though the two events are in
no way connected by anything but coincidence.
Ok, "PATPRICK". It was directed at you...not the other Pat. Mastered
conversation flow and gist yet? Didn't think so.
You don't think, Hitlerjugend reject. You just bellow. I just laugh at
your inability to make me do anything.
If thinking means cooking my toes every time I run out of sausage, I'd
rather not...at least like you do. Addressing someone as your kin or
imagining the plastic surgury between you and Ms. Carnegie-Humphrey
would probably make anyone lose all desire to think. I'm sorry the
circus couldn't pick you up this time Patprick but at least you got
someone who can write self-help by your side.
Your approach sucks, as usual. A pity it is that you're too feeble to figure
out how to declare victory and run away yet again, but I got faith in you, son.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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26 Oct 2003 12:39:24 PM |
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Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
I suppose you would call black people who post anonymously to
newsgroups niggers too or kikes if they were jewish.
Don't project our own hatred onto others.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 Oct 2003 12:02:04 AM |
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Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Some moment must be chosen to mark the start of a human being's life.
For many sound practical reasons that moment is and has been birth.
Birth has many moments,
Only for pedantic assholes who like to argue.
Such is usenet...get used to it or leave. I was trying to have a
discussion.
Apparently, you don't read very well.
I read quite well, and I'm pretty good at noticing when some *****
is lying about wanting to have a discussion.
Stangely enough, the
rest of humanity seems to have very little difficulty in figuring out
when childbirth happens.
And yet you seem to be too stupid to figure it out.
You seem to be unable to answer anything without getting all hurt and
defensive like a little *****.
Still haven't figured it out, have you?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 Oct 2003 07:18:49 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmqhgb$iba$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bmm84k$5nk$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm5807$5rg$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Hylander <dontbothermeplease3333@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bm3o9h$ste$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Some moment must be chosen to mark the start of a human being's life.
For many sound practical reasons that moment is and has been birth.
Birth has many moments,
Only for pedantic assholes who like to argue.
Such is usenet...get used to it or leave. I was trying to have a
discussion.
Apparently, you don't read very well.
I read quite well, and I'm pretty good at noticing when some *****
is lying about wanting to have a discussion.
Stangely enough, the
rest of humanity seems to have very little difficulty in figuring out
when childbirth happens.
And yet you seem to be too stupid to figure it out.
You seem to be unable to answer anything without getting all hurt and
defensive like a little *****.
Still haven't figured it out, have you?
That you start it with people? Cause discussions to digress to
name-calling and "liar" stuff? Can't get over things?
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