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25 Jun 2003 11:03:55 PM |
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Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 03:42:24 GMT, Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
No, statistics prove that black men are PROSECUTED more than white men.
...because they commit more crime.
Evidence?
I've posted statistics,
No, you've posted statistics showing that blacks are prosecuted more
than whites, but not that they commit more crime.
No, I'm not talking about prosecutions, I'm talking about convictions.
Convictions follow prosecutions.
You still don't get it, do you? The statistics I cited have nothing to do
with the rate of prosecution of blacks or whites. The statistics refer to
convictions only.
But if blacks are PROSECUTED more than are whites then the CONVICTION
rate will also be higher since you don't get convictions without
prosecutions.
And you don't get prosecutions without crimes.
But I just provided an example of several prosecutions with no crime
at all. Here it still is...
Snicker. It's been just a week that a dozen or so black men were
freed from prison after being convicted based upon the lies of one
white sheriff.
Further there have been cases where white men have committed crimes
but were not prosecuted and not convictied. One example being the
bomb that killed black several children in the 60s.
Yes, ONE white sheriff turned out to be an *****, and the system caught up
with him. Is this your "evidence" that most black men convicted of crimes all
over the country are innocent?
Where's your evidence that black men are always guilty?
Where did I state that they were?
When you claim that conviction always means guilt.
Show me where I ever made that statement.
Above where you insist that conviction equals guilt.
Damn, that isn't showing up on my monitor... could you possibly point it out
for me?
Here's your problem, Ray: You have yet to actually state what your argument
is.
Ah. Let me make it clear.
You're a racist bigot.
I don't like bigots.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!> bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
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Checkmate
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
26 Jun 2003 12:55:01 AM |
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Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Here's your problem, Ray: You have yet to actually state what your argument
is.
Ah. Let me make it clear.
You're a racist bigot.
I don't like bigots.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!> bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
Against whom? What particular creed?
No, you don't know. You just think it sounds good to accuse others of
bigotry while you continue with your racism.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Randy Jabsco" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
26 Jun 2003 01:37:40 AM |
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LOL!!!
You sure made him look stupid this time Checker!!! Not only does he have
any idea what the word BIGOT means, he did not even take the time to read
the definition that you took out of the dictionary for his convenience.
Let me help you out Ray... The definition of "Bigot" is NOT "Racist". The
two words have two completely different meanings. They are NOT synonymous.
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Randy
Please don't bottom-post...
It's a ***** to scroll down.
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bde1rl$c2d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Here's your problem, Ray: You have yet to actually state what your
argument
is.
Ah. Let me make it clear.
You're a racist bigot.
I don't like bigots.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!>
bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
Against whom? What particular creed?
No, you don't know. You just think it sounds good to accuse others of
bigotry while you continue with your racism.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Checkmate" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
26 Jun 2003 01:48:32 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:55:01 GMT, Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Here's your problem, Ray: You have yet to actually state what your argument
is.
Ah. Let me make it clear.
You're a racist bigot.
I don't like bigots.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!> bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
Against whom? What particular creed?
As usual, you select only what you want to read, and see only what you want to
see. Let me break it down for you...
Bigot: "a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
--->opinion,<--- etc."
You've expressed the --->opinion<--- that I'm a racist and a bigot. Look...
you did it again:
No, you don't know. You just think it sounds good to accuse others of
bigotry while you continue with your racism.
Now, I want you to show me where I've said anything that supports that
contention. I've cited statistical evidence that black people commit far more
crime than white people on a per capita basis. This is factual evidence...
NOT an opinion, and as such, is not a racist remark. I've never said I hated
or even disliked black people. In fact, I've told you that as an employer, I
hired black people right along with white people when they were equally
qualified. Yet you've formed a blind and intolerant opinion about me, with no
basis in fact. THAT, sir, makes YOU a bigot, and a hypocrite to boot. You
are about as closed-minded as anyone I've ever run across. So closed-minded,
in fact, that you can't even see it yourself. The tragedy of it is that the
very narrow-mindedness that you display so well, is probably the biggest
barrier to any real improvement in racial relations between whites and blacks.
You can't fix a problem as long as you blindly choose to deny that it even
exists.
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Checkmate
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| User: "Checkmate" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
27 Jun 2003 12:25:33 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 05:01:50 GMT, Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote:
Ray Fischer put forth the notion that...
Here's your problem, Ray: You have yet to actually state what your argument
is.
Ah. Let me make it clear.
You're a racist bigot.
I don't like bigots.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!> bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
Against whom? What particular creed?
As usual, you select only what you want to read, and see only what you want to
see. Let me break it down for you...
Bigot: "a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
--->opinion,<--- etc."
What creed? I asked you above and all you have is the usual *****.
See where I put those little --->arrow<--- thingies? That means I was
referring to the word "opinion," not the word "creed." HTH
You've expressed the --->opinion<--- that I'm a racist and a bigot. Look...
you did it again:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of replies
back. Take a wander back up the thread, and you'll stumble right over it.
No, wait... never mind... I'll go get it:
Bigot: "a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc." -Webster
So to answer your question, "opinions" have always been in the definition of
bigotry. Perhaps you could borrow a dictionary from someone and verify this
yourself.
No, you don't know. You just think it sounds good to accuse others of
bigotry while you continue with your racism.
Now, I want you to show me where I've said anything that supports that
contention.
Why?
To redeem yourself, Ray. To look like slightly less of a putz than you do at
present... but don't feel obligated or anything.
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Checkmate
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
01 Jul 2003 12:11:04 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
Oh.
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"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Checkmate" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
01 Jul 2003 01:58:13 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:11:04 GMT, Al Klein put forth the notion that...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
That's the stupidest comment I've read all day... possibly all week if you
don't count Ray Fischer or Tom Shelly. Is it really your position that a
dictionary doesn't give the "actual meaning" of a word, or would you like to
rethink that during a more lucid moment?
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Checkmate
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| User: "Randy Jabsco" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
02 Jul 2003 12:53:52 PM |
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"Checkmate" <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote in message
news:bdrbdv$93q$0@pita.alt.net...
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:11:04 GMT, Al Klein put forth the notion that...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of
replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
That's the stupidest comment I've read all day... possibly all week if you
don't count Ray Fischer or Tom Shelly. Is it really your position that a
dictionary doesn't give the "actual meaning" of a word, or would you like
to
rethink that during a more lucid moment?
I once saw someone use the Bible that way. They said, "The Bible is the
Word of God as far as it is correctly translated". The problem existing
however is that there was not any indication about what that actually meant,
so whenever you said something, it was always "Yes, but....".
In any case, all it takes is a little "A dictionary gives common usage of a
word, not actual meaning." and you have an opening for "Yes, but....." in
any argument you desire. Often, in court, the dictionary is used to present
a case. Imagine the defence saying that the dictionary only gives the
common usage of a word and not the actual meaning.
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Checkmate
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| User: "Checkmate" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
02 Jul 2003 02:53:55 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 17:53:52 GMT, Randy Jabsco put forth the notion that...
"Checkmate" <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote in message
news:bdrbdv$93q$0@pita.alt.net...
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:11:04 GMT, Al Klein put forth the notion that...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of
replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
That's the stupidest comment I've read all day... possibly all week if you
don't count Ray Fischer or Tom Shelly. Is it really your position that a
dictionary doesn't give the "actual meaning" of a word, or would you like
to
rethink that during a more lucid moment?
I once saw someone use the Bible that way. They said, "The Bible is the
Word of God as far as it is correctly translated". The problem existing
however is that there was not any indication about what that actually meant,
so whenever you said something, it was always "Yes, but....".
In any case, all it takes is a little "A dictionary gives common usage of a
word, not actual meaning." and you have an opening for "Yes, but....." in
any argument you desire. Often, in court, the dictionary is used to present
a case. Imagine the defence saying that the dictionary only gives the
common usage of a word and not the actual meaning.
That's what attorneys do these days. If they can't change the law, the re-
interpret it. That's when you start hearing such ***** as the "spirit" of
the law is blah-blah-blah... Our Constitutional rights are being eroded in
this very same way. It's a lot easier than going through the steps to change
things legally, because no one would stand for it.
--
Checkmate
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| User: "Professor White" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
02 Jul 2003 05:36:50 AM |
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In article <tlj4gvc6vlv2ee00mhiv91nqcf52r9phv2@Pern.rk>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:58:13 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:11:04 GMT, Al Klein put forth the notion that...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of
replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
That's the stupidest comment I've read all day... possibly all week if you
don't count Ray Fischer or Tom Shelly. Is it really your position that a
dictionary doesn't give the "actual meaning" of a word, or would you like to
rethink that during a more lucid moment?
I'll get back to you when I stop laughing.
It's good that you can laugh at your own stupidity. Everyone else laughs
at your stupidity.
Perfesser White
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| User: "Randy Jabsco" |
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02 Jul 2003 02:43:09 AM |
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This guy got on my case a little while back about something and I couldn't
quite figure out what his problem was. From reading that last posting
however, I have just come to terms that he is the quite possibly one of the
most benightedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound
lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting. "I think I said that
right"
--
Randy
Please don't bottom-post...
It's a ***** to scroll down.
"Checkmate" <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> wrote in message
news:bdrbdv$93q$0@pita.alt.net...
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:11:04 GMT, Al Klein put forth the notion that...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:25:33 -0700, Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge>
posted in alt.atheism:
And? Siunce when are "opinions" an indication of bigotry?
Since I posted the definition straight out of Webster's a couple of
replies
back.
A dictionary gives common usage of a word, not actual meaning. Any
even semi-intelligent person knows that.
That's the stupidest comment I've read all day... possibly all week if you
don't count Ray Fischer or Tom Shelly. Is it really your position that a
dictionary doesn't give the "actual meaning" of a word, or would you like
to
rethink that during a more lucid moment?
--
Checkmate
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| User: "Randy Jabsco" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
25 Jun 2003 11:42:28 PM |
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LOL!!!! That one ranked pretty high in my book....
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!>
bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
--
Randy
Please don't bottom-post...
It's a ***** to scroll down.
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| User: "Checkmate" |
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| Title: Re: Why rednecks love using % instead of hard numbers |
25 Jun 2003 11:31:21 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:42:28 GMT, Randy Jabsco put forth the notion that...
LOL!!!! That one ranked pretty high in my book....
This boy's in WAY over his head... he just hasn't figured that out yet.
Fair enough. Let's see just what it is that you don't like then:
<Webster>
BIGOT n.
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed,
opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person.
Uh-ohhhhh...
I hate to break it to you, Raymond, but it looks like you're a <gasp!>
bigot
yourself then... ain't that a *****?
--
Randy
Please don't bottom-post...
It's a ***** to scroll down.
--
Checkmate
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