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"Deuteros" |
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20 Jul 2005 10:18:33 AM |
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Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed more
people than religion ever has.
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| User: "builderbos" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
20 Jul 2005 01:57:16 PM |
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Deuteros wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121793196.627602.173910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed more
people than religion ever has.
You could say that, and you'd be right on track:
To "govern" means "to control."
Religion's prime objective has always been to control people and the
way they think.
All too often, the people in any country will insist that their
government is of a specific religion; and that just adds to the crime.
There's ample proof that many of America's founding father's were NOT
christians, and that the whole idea was to get away from the century
upon centuries of christian dogma and rule. It just makes sense.
People get tired of limited belief systems after a while. They no
longer make sense in a person's personal growth.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
20 Jul 2005 04:03:00 PM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Deuteros wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121793196.627602.173910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed more
people than religion ever has.
You could say that, and you'd be right on track:
To "govern" means "to control."
Religion's prime objective has always been to control people and the
way they think.
All too often, the people in any country will insist that their
government is of a specific religion; and that just adds to the crime.
There's ample proof that many of America's founding father's were NOT
christians, and that the whole idea was to get away from the century
upon centuries of christian dogma and rule. It just makes sense.
People get tired of limited belief systems after a while. They no
longer make sense in a person's personal growth.
Seems to me this is where your Freudian slip is showing.
You are against control because you are undisciplined/misbehaved, imo.
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| User: "builderbos" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
21 Jul 2005 12:15:12 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121885836.769426.176100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Deuteros wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121793196.627602.173910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed more
people than religion ever has.
You could say that, and you'd be right on track:
To "govern" means "to control."
Religion's prime objective has always been to control people and the
way they think.
All too often, the people in any country will insist that their
government is of a specific religion; and that just adds to the crime.
There's ample proof that many of America's founding father's were NOT
christians, and that the whole idea was to get away from the century
upon centuries of christian dogma and rule. It just makes sense.
People get tired of limited belief systems after a while. They no
longer make sense in a person's personal growth.
Seems to me this is where your Freudian slip is showing.
You are against control because you are undisciplined/misbehaved, imo.
In order for it to be a Freudian Slip, it would have to exist outside
of your own personal opinion. It would demonstrate a person telling a
truth inside of a misspoken phrase that was unintended.
That hasn't happened.
Just because you can't see how a person can live a responsible life
(which is what you mean by "undisciplined/misbehaved," because those
attributes are subjective to your own beliefs) doesn't mean that they
don't actually live one, by common standards; standards accepted by the
vast majority of people as being acceptable and "right."
I actually am very highly disciplined and well-behaved. But likely not
by your standards. Your standards require you to have an outside
influence dictate to you what is and is not "right" and "wrong." You
can't discern it for yourself, because you don't believe you are
capable.
Many of us *can* discern. We don't need an outside authority, in the
form of a govt or religion, to explain to us what is right or wrong.
We just know.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
21 Jul 2005 03:37:07 PM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121885836.769426.176100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Deuteros wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121793196.627602.173910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed
more
people than religion ever has.
You could say that, and you'd be right on track:
To "govern" means "to control."
Religion's prime objective has always been to control people and the
way they think.
All too often, the people in any country will insist that their
government is of a specific religion; and that just adds to the crime.
There's ample proof that many of America's founding father's were NOT
christians, and that the whole idea was to get away from the century
upon centuries of christian dogma and rule. It just makes sense.
People get tired of limited belief systems after a while. They no
longer make sense in a person's personal growth.
Seems to me this is where your Freudian slip is showing.
You are against control because you are undisciplined/misbehaved, imo.
In order for it to be a Freudian Slip, it would have to exist outside
of your own personal opinion. It would demonstrate a person telling a
truth inside of a misspoken phrase that was unintended.
That hasn't happened.
Just because you can't see how a person can live a responsible life
(which is what you mean by "undisciplined/misbehaved," because those
attributes are subjective to your own beliefs) doesn't mean that they
don't actually live one, by common standards; standards accepted by the
vast majority of people as being acceptable and "right."
I actually am very highly disciplined and well-behaved. But likely not
by your standards. Your standards require you to have an outside
influence dictate to you what is and is not "right" and "wrong." You
can't discern it for yourself, because you don't believe you are
capable.
Many of us *can* discern. We don't need an outside authority, in the
form of a govt or religion, to explain to us what is right or wrong.
We just know.
Another indication that you are against proper government is the abundance
of lies in your response to me.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
21 Jul 2005 04:19:39 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121966112.410904.224790@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121885836.769426.176100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Deuteros wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121793196.627602.173910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Religion has always effectively destroyed humanity. It creates
division and hatred. No matter what the religion is.
I could say the same thing about government. Governments have killed
more
people than religion ever has.
You could say that, and you'd be right on track:
To "govern" means "to control."
Religion's prime objective has always been to control people and the
way they think.
All too often, the people in any country will insist that their
government is of a specific religion; and that just adds to the crime.
There's ample proof that many of America's founding father's were NOT
christians, and that the whole idea was to get away from the century
upon centuries of christian dogma and rule. It just makes sense.
People get tired of limited belief systems after a while. They no
longer make sense in a person's personal growth.
Seems to me this is where your Freudian slip is showing.
You are against control because you are undisciplined/misbehaved, imo.
In order for it to be a Freudian Slip, it would have to exist outside
of your own personal opinion. It would demonstrate a person telling a
truth inside of a misspoken phrase that was unintended.
That hasn't happened.
Just because you can't see how a person can live a responsible life
(which is what you mean by "undisciplined/misbehaved," because those
attributes are subjective to your own beliefs) doesn't mean that they
don't actually live one, by common standards; standards accepted by the
vast majority of people as being acceptable and "right."
I actually am very highly disciplined and well-behaved. But likely not
by your standards. Your standards require you to have an outside
influence dictate to you what is and is not "right" and "wrong." You
can't discern it for yourself, because you don't believe you are
capable.
Many of us *can* discern. We don't need an outside authority, in the
form of a govt or religion, to explain to us what is right or wrong.
We just know.
Another indication that you are against proper government is the abundance
of lies in your response to me.
That means that since builderbos told no lies, then he is not against
"proper government", whatever that nonsense is supposed to mean.
If you think that he told some lies, then let's see your objective
proof of your statement. I see nothing in his statements that is
either incorrect or a lie.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "builderbos" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 09:45:35 AM |
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Mark already responded sufficiently.
(You're on to me Johnny...that's exactly the kind of reputation I have;
one of telling lie after lie.)
{Sarcasm}
You are so terribly lost that you don't even know what a lie actually
is. But here's your opportunity to get Mark and I good; point out the
lies and then, tell the "truth."
I look forward to it.
(Yawn)
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 10:00:20 AM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark already responded sufficiently.
His words are unacceptable to me.
(You're on to me Johnny...that's exactly the kind of reputation I have;
one of telling lie after lie.)
Yep.
Good response.
{Sarcasm}
You lost then, by exposing yourself as a liar.
You are so terribly lost that you don't even know what a lie actually
is. But here's your opportunity to get Mark and I good; point out the
lies and then, tell the "truth."
You lied above at least once.
You contradicted yourself.
I look forward to it.
Who cares?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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22 Jul 2005 10:47:48 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark already responded sufficiently.
His words are unacceptable to me.
That is because you have a problem with the facts and the truth.
Especially when those facts and truth support equality and compassion
between people.
(You're on to me Johnny...that's exactly the kind of reputation I have;
one of telling lie after lie.)
Yep.
Good response.
It shows you for the idiot that you are, so it is good.
{Sarcasm}
You lost then, by exposing yourself as a liar.
No, he did not. He LABELED what he said as being sarcasm, which means
that what he is stating is not the literal truth, and should not be
taken as such. Rather, it is meant to be a toungue-in-cheek response
that helps show how stupid the opposing side (i.e. you) is being. Try
learning what sarcasm is and how it is used in debate and in writing.
You are so terribly lost that you don't even know what a lie actually
is. But here's your opportunity to get Mark and I good; point out the
lies and then, tell the "truth."
You lied above at least once.
No lies are in evidence.
You contradicted yourself.
He lied not at all. You have not pointed out any lies by either of us,
and you have not supported anything within your position with objective
facts.
I look forward to it.
Who cares?
Obviously not you. You don't care about the truth or the facts. All
you care about is your oppressive, tyrannical agenda and your lies.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 10:54:37 AM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122043535.629555.309870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark already responded sufficiently.
His words are unacceptable to me.
That is because you have a problem with the facts and the truth.
Especially when those facts and truth support equality and compassion
between people.
(You're on to me Johnny...that's exactly the kind of reputation I have;
one of telling lie after lie.)
Yep.
Good response.
It shows you for the idiot that you are, so it is good.
{Sarcasm}
You lost then, by exposing yourself as a liar.
No, he did not. He LABELED what he said as being sarcasm, which means
that what he is stating is not the literal truth, and should not be
taken as such. Rather, it is meant to be a toungue-in-cheek response
that helps show how stupid the opposing side (i.e. you) is being. Try
learning what sarcasm is and how it is used in debate and in writing.
You are so terribly lost that you don't even know what a lie actually
is. But here's your opportunity to get Mark and I good; point out the
lies and then, tell the "truth."
You lied above at least once.
No lies are in evidence.
You contradicted yourself.
He lied not at all. You have not pointed out any lies by either of us,
and you have not supported anything within your position with objective
facts.
I look forward to it.
Who cares?
Obviously not you. You don't care about the truth or the facts. All
you care about is your oppressive, tyrannical agenda and your lies.
Mark Sebree
Are you two guys sexually actrive with one another?
Was that you on the people's court the other day?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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22 Jul 2005 11:42:28 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122047268.451544.118560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122043535.629555.309870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark already responded sufficiently.
His words are unacceptable to me.
That is because you have a problem with the facts and the truth.
Especially when those facts and truth support equality and compassion
between people.
(You're on to me Johnny...that's exactly the kind of reputation I have;
one of telling lie after lie.)
Yep.
Good response.
It shows you for the idiot that you are, so it is good.
{Sarcasm}
You lost then, by exposing yourself as a liar.
No, he did not. He LABELED what he said as being sarcasm, which means
that what he is stating is not the literal truth, and should not be
taken as such. Rather, it is meant to be a toungue-in-cheek response
that helps show how stupid the opposing side (i.e. you) is being. Try
learning what sarcasm is and how it is used in debate and in writing.
You are so terribly lost that you don't even know what a lie actually
is. But here's your opportunity to get Mark and I good; point out the
lies and then, tell the "truth."
You lied above at least once.
No lies are in evidence.
You contradicted yourself.
He lied not at all. You have not pointed out any lies by either of us,
and you have not supported anything within your position with objective
facts.
I look forward to it.
Who cares?
Obviously not you. You don't care about the truth or the facts. All
you care about is your oppressive, tyrannical agenda and your lies.
Mark Sebree
Are you two guys sexually actrive with one another?
No. I do not know him/her. ANd if it is a him, I would not be
sexually active with him in any case. I am heterosexual.
Was that you on the people's court the other day?
I have never been on TV or in court.
So, you have resorted to diversions again because you cannot handle the
facts. Typical for you.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "builderbos" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 02:35:50 PM |
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Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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22 Jul 2005 09:53:49 PM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> writes:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
I can agree with that.
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thirteen? That's pretty reverted, considering he's 44.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I can sympathize with your view of Wentzky, but I wouldn't expect any
improvement from him any time before the heat death of the universe.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
31 Jul 2005 05:19:28 AM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
So much for not labeling folks, and for equality and compassion: you just
lumped all christians together and called them "lacking in substance".
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| User: "builderbos" |
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09 Aug 2005 02:27:33 PM |
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*\**\]]]] R To The Usty [[[[/**/* wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
So much for not labeling folks, and for equality and compassion: you just
lumped all christians together and called them "lacking in substance".
Labeling has no bearing on my capacity for compassion. Label me
"open-minded, genuine, and balanced" and you'd hit it right on the
nail. Use labels, and I'll let ya know if they're applicable, just as
you will.
So what.
"Lacking in substance" is easily demonstrated with every argument a
christian makes as to why what they think they know is more important
than what I know.
In this sense, no, there is no real equality because christians almost
always insist that they're better informed, or better period, than I
am. All based on questionable morals and adherence to a book whose
authors they never even met.
Hence "lacking in substance."
But that doesn't mean I can't feel compassion for them. If that is too
much for your mind to grapple with, consider reading other books
besides just the one with 1000 different versions and 1000 different
interpretations pushed in 10,000 different institutions. Expand your
horizons. You have a God-given right to.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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22 Jul 2005 08:58:46 PM |
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"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
You can't handle it.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
And, now you resort to your ineffective, in law, attack on religion, as if
anyone who disagrees with you is somehow automatically labelled as a
religious fanatic.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
Your problem is your side is the losing side.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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22 Jul 2005 10:23:06 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122060950.074700.39610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
You can't handle it.
No, he chooses not to waste his time trying to teach a pig to sing. That is
his choice, whether you agree with it or not.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
And, now you resort to your ineffective, in law, attack on religion, as if
anyone who disagrees with you is somehow automatically labelled as a
religious fanatic.
In your case, it's fairly accurate - since you go out of your way to
substantiate his opinion of you.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
Your problem is your side is the losing side.
If his "side" loses, it'll not be because of anything YOU do.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 09:49:08 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"builderbos" <builderbos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122060950.074700.39610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
You can't handle it.
He just does not want to deal with your idiocy.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
And, now you resort to your ineffective, in law, attack on religion, as if
anyone who disagrees with you is somehow automatically labelled as a
religious fanatic.
It looks more like an exercise of his rights to free speech. Besides,
you have shown yourself in the past to be a religious kook. If nothing
else, you use the same lousy arguments they do.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
Your problem is your side is the losing side.
Not in the least. Our side is the side of compassion, freedom,
liberty, equality, and justice. You are on the side that is losing.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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22 Jul 2005 03:46:01 PM |
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builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
He has made oblique threats to me, claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
He is an arrogant idiot that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands just because he tells them to. He refuses
to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims that it
helps people without showing any way that it does.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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22 Jul 2005 10:08:36 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> writes:
builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
He appears to be 44, from a number of public records, but crediting him with
being thirteen is a bit too charitable, in my opinion. (For what it's worth,
our granddaughter was acting more mature than him at the age of six.)
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
That's been one of the few things he's been consistent in.
He has made oblique threats to me, claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
Likewise, in my case.
He is an arrogant idiot that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands just because he tells them to. He refuses
to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims that it
helps people without showing any way that it does.
Insanity is endemic in his agenda, along with the "enfant terribe" mindset,
considering the call he made to my home phone a few years ago - listening to
my greeting on the machine, but not leaving a message.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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22 Jul 2005 09:01:35 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122065161.006752.304880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
He has made oblique threats to me,
When?
claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
I never claimed that, liar.
He is an arrogant idiot
Your personality disorder is not my problem.
that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
just because he tells them to.
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
He refuses
to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims that it
helps people without showing any way that it does.
Blah, blah, blah.
Excessively insubstantive and verbose attempts at defending yourself score
how many points in reality?
Zero.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 10:19:27 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122065161.006752.304880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
He has made oblique threats to me,
When?
If you could control your fetish of responding before you read the entire
sentence, you might not look like such a blithering idiot, n'est-ce pas?
claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
I never claimed that, liar.
Given your refusal to understand the printed words of others - and your recent
forgery of another poster, editing his words - your credibility is anything
but believable.
He is an arrogant idiot
Your personality disorder is not my problem.
He's addressing YOU, Mister Narcissist.
that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
No, you're damning them to hell seven different ways from Sunday because
others dare to disagree with your patent insanity.
just because he tells them to.
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
Could a parrot hold a more rational conversation than you? Sadly, that
appears to be the case more often than not.
He refuses to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims that
it helps people without showing any way that it does.
Blah, blah, blah.
That sums up the vast majority of your (ahem) arguments in this forum.
Excessively insubstantive and verbose attempts at defending yourself score
how many points in reality?
Zero.
That's more accurately a representation of your ability to understand any
opinion not held by you.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
23 Jul 2005 07:57:13 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szku0imi4zk.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122065161.006752.304880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
He has made oblique threats to me,
When?
If you could control your fetish of responding before you read the entire
sentence, you might not look like such a blithering idiot, n'est-ce pas?
claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
I never claimed that, liar.
Given your refusal to understand the printed words of others - and your
recent
forgery of another poster, editing his words - your credibility is
anything
but believable.
I never forged another poster's comments.
Was I sitting at his computer and sending posts through his account as if it
was his post?
No.
Understand what forgery really is, and understand that I did none of it.
He is an arrogant idiot
Your personality disorder is not my problem.
He's addressing YOU, Mister Narcissist.
that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
No, you're damning them to hell seven different ways from Sunday because
others dare to disagree with your patent insanity.
You think they will like it there?
just because he tells them to.
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
Could a parrot hold a more rational conversation than you? Sadly, that
appears to be the case more often than not.
He refuses to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims
that
it helps people without showing any way that it does.
Blah, blah, blah.
That sums up the vast majority of your (ahem) arguments in this forum.
Excessively insubstantive and verbose attempts at defending yourself score
how many points in reality?
Zero.
That's more accurately a representation of your ability to understand any
opinion not held by you.
I don't say that about myself because it isn't the case.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
23 Jul 2005 02:54:34 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szku0imi4zk.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122065161.006752.304880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[...]
claiming that I will pay because I stand up and defend the rights of
others to equality and liberty.
I never claimed that, liar.
Given your refusal to understand the printed words of others - and your
recent forgery of another poster, editing his words - your credibility is
anything but believable.
I never forged another poster's comments.
It's already been shown. Live with your choice.
Was I sitting at his computer and sending posts through his account as if it
was his post? No.
Unfortunately for you, you didn't post using his account - you quoted him in
your response, and you edited the quoted text originally posted by him, adding
words that he never posted.
Understand what forgery really is, and understand that I did none of it.
I understand that you're delusional.
He is an arrogant idiot
Your personality disorder is not my problem.
He's addressing YOU, Mister Narcissist.
that thinks that he has the right to force others to do as he commands
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
No, you're damning them to hell seven different ways from Sunday because
others dare to disagree with your patent insanity.
You think they will like it there?
I don't think anything about your rambling assertions. You're too insane to
recognize a saying that can even be heard in your community.
[...]
He refuses to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims
that it helps people without showing any way that it does.
Blah, blah, blah.
That sums up the vast majority of your (ahem) arguments in this forum.
Excessively insubstantive and verbose attempts at defending yourself score
how many points in reality?
Zero.
That's more accurately a representation of your ability to understand any
opinion not held by you.
I don't say that about myself because it isn't the case.
Your history in this newsgroup indicates otherwise.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 10:01:23 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1122065161.006752.304880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
builderbos wrote:
Mark,
I'm just going to let you handle it from here, you're doing a fine job.
;-)
It's even borderline entertaining. ;->
John sounds like he's 13 years old, and I just don't have the time.
Thanks for the back-up; you answered everything just as I would have.
Those religious folks are so lacking in substance that it often just
isn't worth it.
I'll come back if I see anything remotely debateable.
I am used to handling him. He claims to be 44, and I don't think he
even sounds like he is 13.
You are unlikely to see anything debatable. Johnny quickly devolves
into insults and diversions when his position is challenged. You will
see him use "*****" alot when he does not like what I say. He will
call me an idiot, wimpy, arrogant, disrespectful, a liar, and all
manner of other things, none of which he supports. He also refuses to
support his position with any facts.
He has made oblique threats to me,
When?
Within the last couple weeks, when you said that I would be a "target",
implying a physical threat against me.
claiming that I will pay because I
stand up and defend the rights of others to equality and liberty.
I never claimed that, liar.
The implication was there in the threat.
He is an arrogant idiot
Your personality disorder is not my problem.
Sorry, but I was talking about YOUR personality, not myself.
that thinks that he has the right to force
others to do as he commands
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
just because he tells them to.
Am I dictating Pro-Choice and same-sex marriage?
No. You are not intelligent or compassionate enough to be pro-choice
or in favor of homosexual marriages. That is why I am saying that you
think that you can command others to do as you say just because you
command them to do so.
Besides, neither the pro-choice position nor the pro-homosexual
marriage position actually dictates what actions a person must or must
not take. Both positions are about making options available in order
for the people that want to take advantage of those options to be able
to do so. You are all about denying these options to people, and
thereby forcing them to suffer needlessly. Just because you are so
heartless as to want them to suffer.
He refuses
to see the harm indempic in his own agenda, and yet claims that it
helps people without showing any way that it does.
Blah, blah, blah.
Excessively insubstantive and verbose attempts at defending yourself score
how many points in reality?
At least I can defend myself, and I can use facts that are in evidence.
That is more than I can say for you.
Zero.
Therefore, your scare must be -100 on a scale of -100 to 0. You have
made many unsubstantiated claims and have completely failed to defend
any of them. All you can do is insult people and make diversions to
avoid answering simple and pertinent questions or defending your
baseless claims. My claims are substantiated, and I have defended
them.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
22 Jul 2005 10:05:30 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
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| User: "*" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
31 Jul 2005 05:19:28 AM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42e1b3fa$0$90338$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
Bingo. Murder for convenience is all abortion is, in most cases.
Most are repeat, by the way.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Xtian Terrorist Rudolph Sentenced |
31 Jul 2005 11:02:07 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:19:28 GMT, "*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty
[[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> in alt.abortion with message-id
<QA1He.227387$xm3.49754@attbi_s21> wrote:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42e1b3fa$0$90338$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
Bingo. Murder for convenience is all abortion is, in most cases.
Impossible since abortion is legal and murder must be an illegal act.
Most are repeat, by the way.
So what?
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| User: "*" |
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31 Jul 2005 07:15:54 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:19:28 GMT, "*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty
[[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> in alt.abortion with message-id
<QA1He.227387$xm3.49754@attbi_s21> wrote:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42e1b3fa$0$90338$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
Bingo. Murder for convenience is all abortion is, in most cases.
Impossible since abortion is legal and murder must be an illegal act.
Abortion is murder, and should be illegal. The decision on Roe Vs. Wade was
a travesty and should be reversed.
Most are repeat, by the way.
So what?
I agree, kill 'em all, let's start with you. I think it should be legal for
me to cut you up and burn your parts (or use some of 'em for research) for
my convenience.
Don't like it?
Tough.
It's my choice.
I've found a way to label you unviable.
Your life is inconvenient.
Your painful death is a necessity for you are a tumor on the earth.
Doesn't sound so nice now, does it?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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31 Jul 2005 10:03:19 PM |
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"*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty [[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> writes:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aetpe19oum7e4ugaob68n3ikk41b8n7hhs@4ax.com...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:19:28 GMT, "*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty
[[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> in alt.abortion with message-id
<QA1He.227387$xm3.49754@attbi_s21> wrote:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42e1b3fa$0$90338$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
Bingo. Murder for convenience is all abortion is, in most cases.
Impossible since abortion is legal and murder must be an illegal act.
Abortion is murder, and should be illegal. The decision on Roe Vs. Wade was
a travesty and should be reversed.
Your opinion doesn't count for much, nor should it. (If abortion is murder,
why was it never prosecuted as such in this country?) As has been pointed out
to you by others, murder is illegal, and abortion isn't. You obviously can't
accept the logical conclusion of those two facts.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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31 Jul 2005 10:27:22 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkiryqjr48.fsf@eris.io.com...
"*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty [[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> writes:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aetpe19oum7e4ugaob68n3ikk41b8n7hhs@4ax.com...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:19:28 GMT, "*\\**\\]]]] R To The Usty
[[[[/**/*" <rusty@x-privat.org> in alt.abortion with message-id
<QA1He.227387$xm3.49754@attbi_s21> wrote:
"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:42e1b3fa$0$90338$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in
news:1122086698.332174.89710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No. You are trying to force women to continue their unwanted
pregnancies against their wills, and denying homosexuals the right to
marry. That is why I said that you think that you have the right to
force others to suffer for no reason just because you demand it.
You want to make the unborn suffer because it is inconvenient for you.
Bingo. Murder for convenience is all abortion is, in most cases.
Impossible since abortion is legal and murder must be an illegal act.
Abortion is murder, and should be illegal. The decision on Roe Vs. Wade
was
a travesty and should be reversed.
Your opinion doesn't count for much, nor should it. (If abortion is
murder,
why was it never prosecuted as such in this country?) As has been pointed
out
to you by others, murder is illegal, and abortion isn't. You obviously
can't
accept the logical conclusion of those two facts.
The reason abortion is such a contentious issue that causes so much debate
and heated argument is that your side used the Supreme Court to make law
rather than appropriately interpret The Constitution.
Abortion for convenience is murder, period.
You are killing something, in this case the most precious and fragile of
life, for your own convenience.
Abortion to save the life of the mother can be justified, but "abortion on
demand" for no other reason than "I don't want to have a child now" is
murder.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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