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Date: 19 May 2006 09:44:52 PM
Object: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi
On the bright side, if President Bush's amnesty proposal for illegal
immigrants ends up hurting Republicans and we lose Congress this November,
maybe the Democrats will impeach him and we'll get Cheney as president.
At least Bush has dropped his infernal references to slacker Americans when
talking about illegal immigrants. In his speech Monday night, instead of 47
mentions of "jobs Americans won't do," Bush referred only once to "jobs
Americans are not doing" - which I take it means other than border
enforcement and intelligence-gathering at the CIA. For the record, I'll
volunteer right now to clean other people's apartments if I don't have to
pay taxes on what I earn.
Also, someone must have finally told Bush that the point about America being
a "nation of immigrants" is moronic. All nations are "nations of
immigrants" - as Peter Brimelow pointed out brilliantly in his 1992 article
in National Review on immigration, which left nothing for anyone else to say
(Time to Rethink Immigration? ).
Of the "nation of immigrants" locution, Brimelow says:
"No discussion of U.S. immigration policy gets far without someone making
this helpful remark. As an immigrant myself, I always pause respectfully.
You never know. Maybe this is what they're taught to chant in schools
nowadays, a sort of multicultural Pledge of Allegiance. ... Do they really
think other nations sprouted up out of the ground?"
Brimelow then ran through the Roman, Saxon, Viking, Norman-French, Welsh and
Celtic immigrant influences in Britain alone.
Instead of a moratorium on new immigration, I'd settle for a moratorium on
the use of the expression "We're a nation of immigrants." Throw in a ban on
"Diversity is our strength" and you've got my vote for life.
Bush has also apparently learned that the word "amnesty" does not poll well.
On Monday night, he angrily denounced the idea of amnesty just before
proposing his own amnesty program. The difference between Bush's amnesty
program and "amnesty" is: He'd give amnesty only to people who have been
breaking our laws for many years - not just a few months. (It's the same
program that allows Ted Kennedy to stay in the Senate.)
Bush calls this the "rational middle ground" because it recognizes the
difference between "an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and
someone who has worked here for many years." Yes, the difference is: One of
them has been breaking the law longer. If our criminal justice system used
that logic, a single murder would get you the death penalty, while serial
killers would get probation.
Bush claimed the only other alternative - I assume this is the "irrational
extreme" - is "a program of mass deportation." Really? Is the only
alternative to legalizing tax cheats "a program of mass arrest of tax
cheats"?
This is the logic of the pro-abortion zealots (aka "the Democratic Party"):
Either lift every single restriction on abortion or ... every woman in
America will be impregnated by her father and die in a back-alley abortion!
Those are your only two answers? Do you need another minute?
How about the proposal made on Brimelow's Web site, Vdare.com, that illegal
immigrants be told they have two months to leave the country voluntarily and
not have their breaking of our immigration laws held against them when they
apply for citizenship from their home countries - or not leave and be banned
from U.S. citizenship forever?
Or how about just not giving illegal aliens green cards - as Bush is
proposing - and deport them when we catch them?
Instead of choosing immigrants based on the longevity of their lawbreaking,
another idea is to choose the immigrants we want, for example, those who
speak English or have special skills. (And by "special skills" I don't mean
giving birth to an anchor baby in a border-town emergency room.)
Why not use immigration the way sports teams use the draft - to upgrade our
roster? We could take our pick of the world's engineers, doctors,
scientists, uh ... smoking-hot Latin guys who stand around not wearing
shirts between workouts. Or, you know, whatever ...
As Peter Brimelow says in his book Alien Nation: Common Sense About
America's Immigration Disaster, why not choose immigrants who are better
than us?
Bush thinks it's not fair to favor people with special skills - a policy
evidenced by his Harriet Miers pick.
How about this: It's not fair to want to go out with someone just because
that person is attractive and has a good personality because it
discriminates against people who are ugly with bad social skills! That's our
immigration policy.
Press "1" for English; press "2" for a new president ...
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User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 12:48:54 AM
Why on earth should we, atheists and decent human beings care about
what a hysterical and lying sack of ***** has to say on this topic?
.
User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 01:33:48 AM
On 19 May 2006 22:48:54 -0700, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Why on earth should we, atheists and decent human beings care about
what a hysterical and lying sack of ***** has to say on this topic?

As an activist agnostic, I believe Ann Coulter has important things to
say and I don't care if she "believes" in god or the tooth fairy.
.
User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 02:41:06 AM
*As an activist agnostic, I believe Ann Coulter has important things to
*say and I don't care if she "believes" in god or the tooth fairy.
The "person" who posted this article calls himself a good and decent
Christian...
Besides, Ann Coulter has been caught lying or distorting the facts so
often that its quite surprising that she still has an audience. As for
having "important things to say", you should read this:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter
She's obviously a sick and troubled person.
.

User: "655321"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 12:48:37 PM
In article <p0et625uvv3em04nfch0vskpjoh4anq1np@4ax.com>,
Not PC <fspn@gnbc.com> wrote:

I believe Ann Coulter has important things to
say

Then let us know when she does. Until then, run along...
--
655321
"There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and
AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the
world today." -- Arthur Jensen, 'Network' (1976)
.

User: "Chris Hayes"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 21 May 2006 02:27:02 AM
Not PC wrote:

On 19 May 2006 22:48:54 -0700, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Why on earth should we, atheists and decent human beings care about
what a hysterical and lying sack of ***** has to say on this topic?


As an activist agnostic, I believe Ann Coulter has important things to
say

Why? She's at best there for entertainment (mocked and ridiculed by
sane people, taken seriously by retarded wingnuts).
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 06:57:35 AM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Not PC in episode
<p0et625uvv3em04nfch0vskpjoh4anq1np@4ax.com>...

On 19 May 2006 22:48:54 -0700, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:

Why on earth should we, atheists and decent human beings care about
what a hysterical and lying sack of ***** has to say on this topic?


As an activist agnostic, I believe Ann Coulter has important things to say
and I don't care if she "believes" in god or the tooth fairy.

Ann Coulter's most important thing to say would be found at elite cocktail
parties where she's laughing as she says, "The rubes keep falling for it
and I'm making a mint!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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User: "Paul Mitchum"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 06:22:31 PM
wrote:

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter

One wonders if she'll do as well with this promise as Bush the Elder
did when he said, "Read my lips. No new taxes." (No lips: new taxes.)
I mean, sheesh. Coulter's supposed to be the uber-conservative
commentator, and yet she's not cognizant of the allusion she's making.
.
User: "Clave"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 09:48:12 PM
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com> wrote in message
news:1148167351.276682.294090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...


youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter


One wonders if she'll do as well with this promise as Bush the Elder
did when he said, "Read my lips. No new taxes." (No lips: new taxes.)

I mean, sheesh. Coulter's supposed to be the uber-conservative
commentator, and yet she's not cognizant of the allusion she's making.

If she were asked about that on a bobblehead show, there is no doubt in my
mind that she would *insist* that it was Clinton who'd said it.
Jim
.
User: "Paul Mitchum"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 21 May 2006 01:59:16 AM
Clave wrote:

"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com> wrote in message
news:1148167351.276682.294090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...


youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter


One wonders if she'll do as well with this promise as Bush the Elder
did when he said, "Read my lips. No new taxes." (No lips: new taxes.)

I mean, sheesh. Coulter's supposed to be the uber-conservative
commentator, and yet she's not cognizant of the allusion she's making.


If she were asked about that on a bobblehead show, there is no doubt in my
mind that she would *insist* that it was Clinton who'd said it.

Jim

On a bobblehead show, she'd get away with it, too.
.



User: "Attila2"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 05:22:47 PM
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<Pb2dnaGqTKAFH_PZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Off topic spam.
What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 22 May 2006 05:42:01 PM
"Attila2" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:cl5v621b5jaim31gskqkte3l8cvd5c8cl5@4ax.com...

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<Pb2dnaGqTKAFH_PZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

Off topic spam.

What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?

Dunno, but, you don't have to read this thread if you don't want to. KM
--
(-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3600 live cameras or
visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI or
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User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 05:34:31 PM
In article <cl5v621b5jaim31gskqkte3l8cvd5c8cl5@4ax.com>,
Attila2 <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<Pb2dnaGqTKAFH_PZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

Off topic spam.

What does this have to do with abortion or the Freedom of Choice?

you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
.


User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 01:17:18 AM
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi




On the bright side, if President Bush's amnesty proposal for illegal
immigrants ends up hurting Republicans and we lose Congress this November,
maybe the Democrats will impeach him and we'll get Cheney as president.

At least Bush has dropped his infernal references to slacker Americans when
talking about illegal immigrants. In his speech Monday night, instead of 47
mentions of "jobs Americans won't do," Bush referred only once to "jobs
Americans are not doing" - which I take it means other than border
enforcement and intelligence-gathering at the CIA. For the record, I'll
volunteer right now to clean other people's apartments if I don't have to
pay taxes on what I earn.

Also, someone must have finally told Bush that the point about America being
a "nation of immigrants" is moronic. All nations are "nations of
immigrants" - as Peter Brimelow pointed out brilliantly in his 1992 article
in National Review on immigration, which left nothing for anyone else to say
(Time to Rethink Immigration? ).

Of the "nation of immigrants" locution, Brimelow says:

"No discussion of U.S. immigration policy gets far without someone making
this helpful remark. As an immigrant myself, I always pause respectfully.
You never know. Maybe this is what they're taught to chant in schools
nowadays, a sort of multicultural Pledge of Allegiance. ... Do they really
think other nations sprouted up out of the ground?"

Brimelow then ran through the Roman, Saxon, Viking, Norman-French, Welsh and
Celtic immigrant influences in Britain alone.

Instead of a moratorium on new immigration, I'd settle for a moratorium on
the use of the expression "We're a nation of immigrants." Throw in a ban on
"Diversity is our strength" and you've got my vote for life.

Bush has also apparently learned that the word "amnesty" does not poll well.
On Monday night, he angrily denounced the idea of amnesty just before
proposing his own amnesty program. The difference between Bush's amnesty
program and "amnesty" is: He'd give amnesty only to people who have been
breaking our laws for many years - not just a few months. (It's the same
program that allows Ted Kennedy to stay in the Senate.)

Bush calls this the "rational middle ground" because it recognizes the
difference between "an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and
someone who has worked here for many years." Yes, the difference is: One of
them has been breaking the law longer. If our criminal justice system used
that logic, a single murder would get you the death penalty, while serial
killers would get probation.

Bush claimed the only other alternative - I assume this is the "irrational
extreme" - is "a program of mass deportation." Really? Is the only
alternative to legalizing tax cheats "a program of mass arrest of tax
cheats"?

This is the logic of the pro-abortion zealots (aka "the Democratic Party"):
Either lift every single restriction on abortion or ... every woman in
America will be impregnated by her father and die in a back-alley abortion!

Those are your only two answers? Do you need another minute?

How about the proposal made on Brimelow's Web site, Vdare.com, that illegal
immigrants be told they have two months to leave the country voluntarily and
not have their breaking of our immigration laws held against them when they
apply for citizenship from their home countries - or not leave and be banned
from U.S. citizenship forever?

Or how about just not giving illegal aliens green cards - as Bush is
proposing - and deport them when we catch them?

Instead of choosing immigrants based on the longevity of their lawbreaking,
another idea is to choose the immigrants we want, for example, those who
speak English or have special skills. (And by "special skills" I don't mean
giving birth to an anchor baby in a border-town emergency room.)

Why not use immigration the way sports teams use the draft - to upgrade our
roster? We could take our pick of the world's engineers, doctors,
scientists, uh ... smoking-hot Latin guys who stand around not wearing
shirts between workouts. Or, you know, whatever ...

As Peter Brimelow says in his book Alien Nation: Common Sense About
America's Immigration Disaster, why not choose immigrants who are better
than us?

Bush thinks it's not fair to favor people with special skills - a policy
evidenced by his Harriet Miers pick.

How about this: It's not fair to want to go out with someone just because
that person is attractive and has a good personality because it
discriminates against people who are ugly with bad social skills! That's our
immigration policy.

Press "1" for English; press "2" for a new president ...

GREAT POST! I hope everyone will re-post it to their Congresscritters
and demand SECURE THE BORDERS! NO AMNESTY!
.

User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 19 May 2006 11:05:54 PM
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Read my lips, Ann. Shut the hell up, you hate-mongering, bigoted hag.
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 22 May 2006 05:42:00 PM
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:fs4t629ehb9tg0mqnnrtpr9ia01nq0ldft@4ax.com...

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Read my lips, Ann. Shut the hell up, you hate-mongering, bigoted hag.

Oh, if only the elite Leftwing could shut Ann Coulter up! Ain't freedom of
speech a *****? KM
--
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User: "Joseph Welch"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 22 May 2006 09:49:04 PM
"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote in message
news:Y6rcg.87995$Fs1.30708@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Oh, if only the elite Leftwing could shut Ann Coulter up!

Why would anyone want to do that? She NEEDS to be the face and voice of the
American radical right. I hope she gets in front of every camera and
microphone that will have her.

Ain't freedom of speech a *****?

Damn right.
--
George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider,
their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other
western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and
violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States
Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by underming American
freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government.
Supporting Bush is treason.
***************
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 22 May 2006 06:45:43 PM
On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:42:00 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
<alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:fs4t629ehb9tg0mqnnrtpr9ia01nq0ldft@4ax.com...

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Read my lips, Ann. Shut the hell up, you hate-mongering, bigoted hag.


Oh, if only the elite Leftwing could shut Ann Coulter up! Ain't freedom of
speech a *****? KM

No, actually, freedom of speech is a very *good* thing, and it enjoys
actual support on the Left rather than the empty lip service the Right
dishes out. Coulter has the right to spew her hate-filled idiocy. I,
by the same token, have the right to spank her for it.
I happen to be a slightly left-leaning moderate. I consider the far
Left every bit as loony and out of touch with reality as the far Right
(although you'll never hear me say they're just as *stupid* as the far
Right...). One advantage to being in the middle is that the trees
don't blind me to the existence of the forest. I can see clearly
enough to note that more often than not it's the Right that is
anti-freedom, not the Left.
.


User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 01:18:52 AM
On Sat, 20 May 2006 04:05:54 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Read my lips, Ann. Shut the hell up, you hate-mongering, bigoted hag.

Johnny, Johnny, Jorge. They need social workers down in Mexico.
VAMOS!
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 04:10:15 AM
On Sat, 20 May 2006 06:18:52 GMT, Not PC <fspn@gnbc.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 May 2006 04:05:54 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:52 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Read my lips, Ann. Shut the hell up, you hate-mongering, bigoted hag.


Johnny, Johnny, Jorge. They need social workers down in Mexico.
VAMOS!

So you haven't left yet?
.


User: "John Deer"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 19 May 2006 11:44:33 PM
On Sat, 20 May 2006 04:05:54 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

Read my lips

Slice them off.
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 04:14:27 AM
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:33 -0600, John Deer <plow@share.sword>
wrote:

On Sat, 20 May 2006 04:05:54 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

Read my lips


Slice them off.

If you're dumb enough to try....
.

User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: READ MY LIPS: NO NEW AMNESTY by Ann Coulter 20 May 2006 01:20:29 AM
On Fri, 19 May 2006 22:44:33 -0600, John Deer <plow@share.sword>
wrote:

On Sat, 20 May 2006 04:05:54 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

Read my lips


Slice them off.

My, what a "Kind, caring, respect-all-points-of-view" socialist
response.
.




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