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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Papa Jack" |
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04 May 2004 11:44:57 AM |
| Object: |
Reasons for Abortions |
_ABOUT_, Women's Issues, Abortion Statistics from Nikki Katz
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionstats.htm
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
* 47% of abortions are performed on women who have
already had one or more abortions
Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
* 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want
to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
* 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their
partner does not want a child
* 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or
others object to the pregnancy)
* 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their
education or career
* 7.9% of women want no (more) children
* 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
fetal health
* 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
maternal health
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Papa Jack comments:
At times, Pro-Aborts criticize my statement that many
abortions are done for the convenience of the pregnant
woman's lifestyle -- rather, than for reasons related
to actual emergencies.
That doesn't mean I am not sympathetic to how upsetting
an unwanted pregnancy can be to a woman. I do emphatize
with couples who have reasons not to get pregnant, but
we are talking about homicide and inconvenience is
simply not adequate defense.
Another related point is the fact that almost half of
the women having abortions have previously had one or
more abortions. That reduces my sympathy factor a
great deal.
Thanks for considering my point of view.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 10:19:16 AM |
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"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au...
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child.
* So if a girl of 11 or 12 gets pregnant (and they do) you believe she's
MATURE enough to be a good mother and raise the child to be a productive
member of society when she's just about giving up her dolls and toys?
That's the SICKEST thing I ever heard of.
If the
person is not old enough to care for the child, then that person should
not have sex. Simple.
* Because YOU say so, all the women on earth will suddenly stop having sex!
Simple.
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones."
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| User: "Murdoc" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 04:19:04 PM |
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Flower Power wrote:
"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au...
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child.
* So if a girl of 11 or 12 gets pregnant (and they do) you believe
she's MATURE enough to be a good mother and raise the child to be a
productive member of society when she's just about giving up her
dolls and toys? That's the SICKEST thing I ever heard of.
Then why did she have consentual sex?
[...]
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones."
======================================
You like taking verses out of context, don't you?
--
Murdoc
; =================================
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties,
nations and epochs, it is the rule."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a
compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."
-- Mark Twain
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
-- Joseph Stalin
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 05:11:48 PM |
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"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhy0451953w00g@news.bri.connect.com.au...
Flower Power wrote:
"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au...
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child.
* So if a girl of 11 or 12 gets pregnant (and they do) you believe
she's MATURE enough to be a good mother and raise the child to be a
productive member of society when she's just about giving up her
dolls and toys? That's the SICKEST thing I ever heard of.
Then why did she have consentual sex?
===============================
Why does ANYONE have consenual sex?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 10:02:09 AM |
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In article <xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <xn0dhwz247scgk000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa Jack wrote:
ABOUT, Women's Issues, Abortion Statistics from Nikki Katz
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionstats.h
tm
__________________________________________________________________
____ ___ Excerpts:
* 47% of abortions are performed on women who have
already had one or more abortions
Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
* 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want
to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
* 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their
partner does not want a child
* 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or
others object to the pregnancy)
* 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their
education or career
* 7.9% of women want no (more) children
* 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
fetal health
* 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
maternal health
Two things:
1) What about the other 2.1% (97.9% are listed in total above)?
2) According to the above statistics, 91.8% of all abortions are for
'convenience'. That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing to do with
the life of either the mother or foetus being in immediate danger.
Disgusting.
Why do you find that "disgusting?" Besides, I don't see the word
"convenience" on that list. That is just more pro-life propaganda.
The lies just never stop with you people, does it? What are you
afraid of?
Read the rest of my post. Notice this sentence:
"That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing to do with the life of either
the mother or foetus being in immediate danger."
Which you distort into "convenience?" Don't you think that when
someone has to take the truth, and twist it into something else in
order to support their own reality, that indicates their version of
reality is weak?
For example, disruption of career.
Careers are disrupted by an unwanted child. If the person prefers an
career over an unwanted child, isn't she being responsible by having an
abortion?
One thing I did notice, though, is that it says:
"12.2% of women are too young (parents or others object to the
pregnancy)"
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child. If the
person is not old enough to care for the child, then that person should
not have sex. Simple.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child." That
is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the child. She
wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs, and rock and
roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for the child. But
still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted child. What does
she do now?
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 05:10:49 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child." That
is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the child. She
wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs, and rock and
roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for the child. But
still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted child. What does
she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child anyway now
matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how neglected, how
abused, how unloved it is.... remember, once the child is BORN the
anti-choicers head for the hills and couldn't care less about it or the
unwilling, possibly unfit mother.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "Murdoc" |
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05 May 2004 05:20:23 PM |
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Flower Power wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child."
That is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the
child. She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for
the child. But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted
child. What does she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child
anyway now matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how
neglected, how abused, how unloved it is.... [...]
Can the mother be 100% certain that, once the child is born, it would
still be unloved and unwanted? Answer: No.
--
Murdoc
; =================================
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties,
nations and epochs, it is the rule."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a
compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."
-- Mark Twain
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
-- Joseph Stalin
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 08:00:44 PM |
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"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhy1sd3j3ni000@news.bri.connect.com.au...
Flower Power wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child."
That is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the
child. She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for
the child. But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted
child. What does she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child
anyway now matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how
neglected, how abused, how unloved it is.... [...]
Can the mother be 100% certain that, once the child is born, it would
still be unloved and unwanted? Answer: No.
===================
Can you be 100% certain she will suddenly become a NEW person by some
miracle? That she will change 100% and be a good and loving mother? Answer:
No. That seldom happens. I can see you never worked around or with these
women and teenage mothers. What happens in that case, when she doesn't
CHANGE,..... since the Anti-Choicer will be long gone by then. Will YOU be
there to rescue and adopt the suffering abused child? Answer: No.
Time for the likes of YOU to put up or shut up.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 08:47:54 PM |
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In article <xn0dhy1sd3j3ni000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Flower Power wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child."
That is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the
child. She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for
the child. But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted
child. What does she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child
anyway now matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how
neglected, how abused, how unloved it is.... [...]
Can the mother be 100% certain that, once the child is born, it would
still be unloved and unwanted? Answer: No.
Even if true, so what? I guess you are willing to take the chance -
even though it isn't you who will pay the price.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 10:20:19 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520041847546282%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <xn0dhy1sd3j3ni000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Flower Power wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child."
That is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the
child. She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for
the child. But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted
child. What does she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child
anyway now matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how
neglected, how abused, how unloved it is.... [...]
Can the mother be 100% certain that, once the child is born, it would
still be unloved and unwanted? Answer: No.
======================
Even if true, so what?
* "So what" that the child is neglected and abused because the unwilling
mother can't or wont care properly for it? See, none of you CARE at all
about the baby once the women is coerced or forced to have it. All children
DESERVE to be wanted and loved.
I guess you are willing to take the chance -
* It's NOT my choice - it's the pregnant woman's choice.
even though it isn't you who will pay the price.
* What price?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 10:23:39 PM |
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In article <T7WdnfF6kNBnMwTdRVn-gg@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@spamless.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520041847546282%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <xn0dhy1sd3j3ni000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Flower Power wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520040802091508%
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child."
That is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the
child. She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs,
and rock and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for
the child. But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted
child. What does she do now?
================
According to the anti-choicers she should have the unwanted child
anyway now matter how miserable the child will be. No matter how
neglected, how abused, how unloved it is.... [...]
Can the mother be 100% certain that, once the child is born, it would
still be unloved and unwanted? Answer: No.
======================
Even if true, so what?
* "So what" that the child is neglected and abused because the unwilling
mother can't or wont care properly for it? See, none of you CARE at all
about the baby once the women is coerced or forced to have it. All children
DESERVE to be wanted and loved.
I guess you are willing to take the chance -
* It's NOT my choice - it's the pregnant woman's choice.
even though it isn't you who will pay the price.
* What price?
One of us is confused. I'm on your side.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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06 May 2004 05:43:34 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042023391001%
One of us is confused. I'm on your side.
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Gotcha! :-) I get carried away.....
--
FP........
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
06 May 2004 11:02:05 PM |
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In article <p_qdnTRv2uAAIgfdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042023391001%
One of us is confused. I'm on your side.
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Gotcha! :-) I get carried away.....
Actually, I think it was me. I read something you replied to and
thought you said it. No harm, no foul...
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| User: "Murdoc" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 05:56:22 PM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <xn0dhwz247scgk000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa Jack wrote:
ABOUT, Women's Issues, Abortion Statistics from Nikki Katz
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionsta
ts.h tm
______________________________________________________________
____ ____ ___ Excerpts:
* 47% of abortions are performed on women who have
already had one or more abortions
Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
* 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want
to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
* 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their
partner does not want a child
* 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or
others object to the pregnancy)
* 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their
education or career
* 7.9% of women want no (more) children
* 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
fetal health
* 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
maternal health
Two things:
1) What about the other 2.1% (97.9% are listed in total above)?
2) According to the above statistics, 91.8% of all abortions
are for 'convenience'. That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing
to do with the life of either the mother or foetus being in
immediate danger. Disgusting.
Why do you find that "disgusting?" Besides, I don't see the word
"convenience" on that list. That is just more pro-life
propaganda. The lies just never stop with you people, does it?
What are you afraid of?
Read the rest of my post. Notice this sentence:
"That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing to do with the life of
either the mother or foetus being in immediate danger."
Which you distort into "convenience?" Don't you think that when
someone has to take the truth, and twist it into something else in
order to support their own reality, that indicates their version of
reality is weak?
For example, disruption of career.
Careers are disrupted by an unwanted child. If the person prefers an
career over an unwanted child, isn't she being responsible by having
an abortion?
She would have been more responsible by not getting pregnant in the
first place.
One thing I did notice, though, is that it says:
"12.2% of women are too young (parents or others object to the
pregnancy)"
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child. If
the person is not old enough to care for the child, then that
person should not have sex. Simple.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child." That
is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the child.
She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs, and rock
and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for the child.
But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted child. What
does she do now?
She should carry the pregnancy to term. If, once the child is born, she
still doesn't want the child, then put it up for adoption. If, however,
her mind is changed and she does want the child, then she should be
glad she didn't destroy that chance.
--
Murdoc
; =================================
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties,
nations and epochs, it is the rule."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
"All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a
compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity."
-- Mark Twain
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
-- Joseph Stalin
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 08:03:34 PM |
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"Murdoc" <murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dhy2gm4i7zl001@news.bri.connect.com.au...
She would have been more responsible by not getting pregnant in the
first place.
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And how will THAT mindless suggestion help her when birth control failed and
she is now pregnant? Do you suggest married couples sleep in separate pats
or rooms when they don't want children. What kind of a marriage would it be
without sex? Do you and your wife sleep in separate rooms or apts to
prevent an unwanted pregnancy?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 08:47:54 PM |
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In article <xn0dhy2gm4i7zl001@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <xn0dhx0b59gbc6000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <xn0dhwz247scgk000@news.bri.connect.com.au>, Murdoc
<murdoc_0@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa Jack wrote:
ABOUT, Women's Issues, Abortion Statistics from Nikki Katz
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionsta
ts.h tm
______________________________________________________________
____ ____ ___ Excerpts:
* 47% of abortions are performed on women who have
already had one or more abortions
Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
* 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want
to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
* 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their
partner does not want a child
* 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or
others object to the pregnancy)
* 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their
education or career
* 7.9% of women want no (more) children
* 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
fetal health
* 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
maternal health
Two things:
1) What about the other 2.1% (97.9% are listed in total above)?
2) According to the above statistics, 91.8% of all abortions
are for 'convenience'. That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing
to do with the life of either the mother or foetus being in
immediate danger. Disgusting.
Why do you find that "disgusting?" Besides, I don't see the word
"convenience" on that list. That is just more pro-life
propaganda. The lies just never stop with you people, does it?
What are you afraid of?
Read the rest of my post. Notice this sentence:
"That is, 91.8% of abortions have nothing to do with the life of
either the mother or foetus being in immediate danger."
Which you distort into "convenience?" Don't you think that when
someone has to take the truth, and twist it into something else in
order to support their own reality, that indicates their version of
reality is weak?
For example, disruption of career.
Careers are disrupted by an unwanted child. If the person prefers an
career over an unwanted child, isn't she being responsible by having
an abortion?
She would have been more responsible by not getting pregnant in the
first place.
YES. She would have. So what? That doesn't make the argument weaker.
One thing I did notice, though, is that it says:
"12.2% of women are too young (parents or others object to the
pregnancy)"
Now, if a person is old (and mature) enough to have consentual sex,
then the person is old (and mature) enough to care for a child. If
the person is not old enough to care for the child, then that
person should not have sex. Simple.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What if someone has consensual sex, not
wanting a child, but gets pregnant due to he own "irresponsible
actions," and then wants, while pregnant, to abort the "child." That
is, she wants, as you people love to claim, to "murder" the child.
She wants to continue on her care-free life of sex, drugs, and rock
and roll. She has no interest in the child, no desire for the child.
But still, she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted child. What
does she do now?
She should carry the pregnancy to term. If, once the child is born, she
still doesn't want the child, then put it up for adoption. If, however,
her mind is changed and she does want the child, then she should be
glad she didn't destroy that chance.
Adoption doesn't work. People don't want these children of sin. How
many children have you adopted?
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05 May 2004 10:30:39 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520041847546309%
Adoption doesn't work. People don't want these children of sin. How
many children have you adopted?
=================
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption Agencies) the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
--
FP.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
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| User: "Osprey" |
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05 May 2004 10:37:15 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:T9GdnS2937b6LATdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520041847546309%
Adoption doesn't work. People don't want these children of sin. How
many children have you adopted?
=================
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption Agencies) the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
What about those who have made mistakes and are thrown into prison?
What about those who are forgotten about?
Do you realize that approximately 93% of all people who go to jail are
released back into society?
What do you do to make sure they are taken care of? What do you do to show
that you care for them and
are willing to give them another chance in life?
Just because a judge has sentenced them to serve life, you just think it is
o.k. to forget all about them after they
go behind that wall.
What about all our vietnam vets who served this country and have no home?
What do you do to help them?
What about the starving children and families in the hills of Kentucky? Do
you help them?
Do you care?
This little game you play has a double edged sword. If you are going to
play this little game saying people who
oppose abortion don't care about children, then be prepared to show us how
much you care about the
millions of people who are starving, homeless, behind prison bars waiting to
come back to society.
I work around people who don't get a chance in life when they get out. Why?
Because people turn their backs on them.
They figure once a criminal, always a criminal. They end up coming right
back to jail, because people didn't care enough
to help them.
What do you do to help them? Nothing?
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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06 May 2004 05:58:30 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:_Lmdnc4QZrtTLwTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption Agencies)
the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
============================================
What about those who have made mistakes and are thrown into prison?
* What about them?
What about those who are forgotten about?
* Where?
Do you realize that approximately 93% of all people who go to jail are
released back into society?
* Yes, so?
What do you do to make sure they are taken care of? What do you do to show
that you care for them and
are willing to give them another chance in life?
* What are YOU doing for them? I don't know any criminals. What have they
got to do with CHOICE and abortion?
Just because a judge has sentenced them to serve life, you just think it
is
o.k. to forget all about them after they
go behind that wall.
* I'm not their JUDGE and I'm not their JURY and I didn't condom them nor
commit the crime so why ask me? Take this to a prison or law NG.
What about all our vietnam vets who served this country and have no home?
What do you do to help them?
* Take this to the Vets NGs.
What about the starving children and families in the hills of Kentucky?
Do
you help them?
Do you care?
* Take this to the NG for Appalachia - this is a NG about *abortion.*
This little game you play has a double edged sword.
* No it isn't - you're dragging in everything else as a smoke screen. Next
you'll be asking about the kittens at the animal shelters. This is
MISDIRECTION if I ever saw it,....... your little GAME snipped.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "Osprey" |
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06 May 2004 06:06:26 PM |
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"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:UKmdnZ0XEYaAXgfdRVn-tw@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:_Lmdnc4QZrtTLwTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're
not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption Agencies)
the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting
families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
============================================
What about those who have made mistakes and are thrown into prison?
* What about them?
where were you? Why aren't you helping them?
What about those who are forgotten about?
* Where?
Why aren't you helping them?
Do you realize that approximately 93% of all people who go to jail are
released back into society?
* Yes, so?
Do you go out and volunteer to help and make sure they get a job and a start
back on life?
What do you do to make sure they are taken care of? What do you do to
show
that you care for them and
are willing to give them another chance in life?
* What are YOU doing for them?
What do I do for them? I am involved in their rehabilitation stage, I do my
part.
I don't know any criminals. What have they
got to do with CHOICE and abortion?
Oh, this is about people, not just abortion
You want to cry about people who oppose abortion and say they don't care
about people, lets find out if you care
Just because a judge has sentenced them to serve life, you just think it
is
o.k. to forget all about them after they
go behind that wall.
* I'm not their JUDGE and I'm not their JURY and I didn't condom them nor
commit the crime so why ask me? Take this to a prison or law NG.
Oh, but yet you expect us to go out and take care of the children when we
were not the ones who got pregnant or got them pregnant.
Nice little dodge you just threw in there.
Hypocrite
What about all our vietnam vets who served this country and have no
home?
What do you do to help them?
* Take this to the Vets NGs.
Hypocrite
What about the starving children and families in the hills of Kentucky?
Do
you help them?
Do you care?
* Take this to the NG for Appalachia - this is a NG about *abortion.*
Hypocrite
This little game you play has a double edged sword.
* No it isn't - you're dragging in everything else as a smoke screen.
Not at all, we just demonstrated you could care less about helping people
but you sure have plenty of time to sit in a news group and judge others
Hypocrite
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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06 May 2004 07:44:43 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:UKmdnZ0XEYaAXgfdRVn-tw@heartoftn.net...
What about the starving children and families in the hills of Kentucky? Do
you help them?
Do you care?
* Take this to the NG for Appalachia - this is a NG about *abortion.*
Hypocrite
You're the one that brought it up, cross-dressing Cop Reject -- so what *have*
you done besides be even more of an idiot? Let's see some conclusive proof of
your whining, and you don't even have to cover all of Appalachia (not that
you'd have any earthly idea of where it is in the first place, anyway) to show
that you deserve more than a kick to your bullet-shaped head: show me where
in Harlan County, Kentucky -- an average-sized county in the Commonwealth,
about a third the size of *your* postage-stamp state -- children are
starving. I can confidently say you aren't capable of doing it without lying.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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06 May 2004 09:56:05 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:o-KdnYtY3_pTWQfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:UKmdnZ0XEYaAXgfdRVn-tw@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:_Lmdnc4QZrtTLwTdRVn-jw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're
not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with
these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption
Agencies)
the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting
families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
============================================
What about those who have made mistakes and are thrown into prison?
* What about them?
where were you? Why aren't you helping them?
What about those who are forgotten about?
* Where?
Why aren't you helping them?
## MISDIRECTION NOTED. Helping them do what and what has this got to do
with abortion and choice?
Do you realize that approximately 93% of all people who go to jail are
released back into society?
* Yes, so?
Do you go out and volunteer to help and make sure they get a job and a
start
back on life?
## Second MISDIRECTION NOTED. Helping them get a job? What has this got to
do with abortion and choice?
=== SNIP "off topic" nonsense.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
05 May 2004 10:38:53 PM |
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In article <_Lmdnc4QZrtTLwTdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:T9GdnS2937b6LATdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520041847546309%
Adoption doesn't work. People don't want these children of sin. How
many children have you adopted?
=================
Children of "sin?* What looney still thinks in those terms? We're not
living in the dark ages anymore. :-) Ask anyone who works with these
unwanted children (Foster Care, special lawyers and Adoption Agencies) the
women/teenager was somehow forced or coerced to bear. Adopting families
want WHITE, healthy infants or very young children. They don't want
minority, disabled or disturbed children.
What about those who have made mistakes and are thrown into prison?
What about those who are forgotten about?
Do you realize that approximately 93% of all people who go to jail are
released back into society?
What do you do to make sure they are taken care of? What do you do to show
that you care for them and
are willing to give them another chance in life?
Just because a judge has sentenced them to serve life, you just think it is
o.k. to forget all about them after they
go behind that wall.
What about all our vietnam vets who served this country and have no home?
What do you do to help them?
What about the starving children and families in the hills of Kentucky? Do
you help them?
Do you care?
This little game you play has a double edged sword. If you are going to
play this little game saying people who
oppose abortion don't care about children, then be prepared to show us how
much you care about the
millions of people who are starving, homeless, behind prison bars waiting to
come back to society.
I work around people who don't get a chance in life when they get out. Why?
Because people turn their backs on them.
They figure once a criminal, always a criminal. They end up coming right
back to jail, because people didn't care enough
to help them.
What do you do to help them? Nothing?
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
06 May 2004 06:02:06 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers? Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from the
hospital. No guarantee they'll take care of it properly of course. All
other infants are ignored and end up in Foster Care. And we know what
Foster Care is like. :-(
--
PQ....
"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive
and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes talking to people
and
guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"
-= Paul Provenza =-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
06 May 2004 06:13:53 PM |
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"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from the
hospital.
Bigot
No guarantee they'll take care of it properly of course. All
other infants are ignored and end up in Foster Care. And we know what
Foster Care is like. :-(
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
06 May 2004 09:13:49 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8qKdnWT1kdERWwfdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts are that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by forcing and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
07 May 2004 04:53:42 AM |
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"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message news:<39CdncfI59l-bQfdRVn-uQ@heartoftn.net>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8qKdnWT1kdERWwfdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts are that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by forcing and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
Name one woman I tried to punish or force.
Name, date, location that you witnessed this claim you are making.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
07 May 2004 12:59:30 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405070153.25c27bf6@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:<39CdncfI59l-bQfdRVn-uQ@heartoftn.net>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8qKdnWT1kdERWwfdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts are that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by forcing
and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
======================================
Name one woman I tried to punish or force.
Name, date, location that you witnessed this claim you are making.
Every women who reads this NG by trying to make them feel guilty they had an
abortion, or to feel guilty because they're thinking of having an abortion.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
07 May 2004 03:00:45 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:M6-dnbxMEeAWUwbdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405070153.25c27bf6@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:<39CdncfI59l-bQfdRVn-uQ@heartoftn.net>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8qKdnWT1kdERWwfdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from
the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts are
that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the
sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by forcing
and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
======================================
Name one woman I tried to punish or force.
Name, date, location that you witnessed this claim you are making.
Every women who reads this NG by trying to make them feel guilty they had
an
abortion, or to feel guilty because they're thinking of having an
abortion.
sorry but you failed...again
I have never tried to punish nor force any woman to do anything against her
will.
Your reply above proves you can only lie and can't back up anything.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions |
07 May 2004 04:27:56 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:LL-dnQk5psRGdwbdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:M6-dnbxMEeAWUwbdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405070153.25c27bf6@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:<39CdncfI59l-bQfdRVn-uQ@heartoftn.net>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8qKdnWT1kdERWwfdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote in message
news:0Kidna8ji7hrXgfdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:050520042038535842%
Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
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Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right from
the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts are
that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the
sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by
forcing
and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
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Name one woman I tried to punish or force.
Name, date, location that you witnessed this claim you are making.
Every women who reads this NG by trying to make them feel guilty they
had
an
abortion, or to feel guilty because they're thinking of having an
abortion.
sorry but you failed...again
$$ So did you!
I have never tried to punish nor force any woman to do anything against
her
will.
Your reply above proves you can only lie and can't back up anything.
$$ All YOU do is lie.
--
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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Note - Heishman has never adopted.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/05/malnourished.children.ap/index.html
================
Of course not. Do any of the anti-choicers?
Are you going to help donate food and financing?
* Are you?
I take care of two families right now.
So if you are willing to help donate, I am willing to adopt
* So go adopt! Take a few unwanted Foster children as well.
Wait, yes, a few, if they can
get a WHITE, blond haired, blue eyed, healthy INFANT right
from
the
hospital.
Bigot
* You anti-choice people are the RACISTS and BIGOTS! The facts
are
that
there's a shortage of white babies while the minority babies, the
sick,
disabled and older kids languish in foster care. Deal with it.
Challenge to flower power
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child
* Donate what? I'm not the one who wants to punish women by
forcing
and
coercing them to have kids they do not want.
======================================
Name one woman I tried to punish or force.
Name, date, location that you witnessed this claim you are making.
Every women who reads this NG by trying to make them feel guilty they
had
an
abortion, or to feel guilty because they're thinking of having an
abortion.
sorry but you failed...again
$$ So did you!
Failed at what? You are the one who made an accusation you can't back up
I have never tried to punish nor force any woman to do anything against
her
will.
Your reply above proves you can only lie and can't back up anything.
$$ All YOU do is lie.
Where is the lie?
You are the one making the claims and can't back them up.
You are the one who is the ranting lunatic
You want people to punish women or try to force them, just so you have
something to ***** about.
What a pathetic little person you are.
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