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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Papa Jack"
Date: 04 May 2004 11:44:57 AM
Object: Reasons for Abortions
_ABOUT_, Women's Issues, Abortion Statistics from Nikki Katz
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionstats.htm
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
* 47% of abortions are performed on women who have
already had one or more abortions
Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)
* 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want
to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
* 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their
partner does not want a child
* 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or
others object to the pregnancy)
* 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their
education or career
* 7.9% of women want no (more) children
* 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
fetal health
* 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to
maternal health
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
At times, Pro-Aborts criticize my statement that many
abortions are done for the convenience of the pregnant
woman's lifestyle -- rather, than for reasons related
to actual emergencies.
That doesn't mean I am not sympathetic to how upsetting
an unwanted pregnancy can be to a woman. I do emphatize
with couples who have reasons not to get pregnant, but
we are talking about homicide and inconvenience is
simply not adequate defense.
Another related point is the fact that almost half of
the women having abortions have previously had one or
more abortions. That reduces my sympathy factor a
great deal.
Thanks for considering my point of view.
.

User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 04:28:55 PM
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And I notice that the ones bitching about people not adopting

unwanted

children are doing nothing about it themselves

==============================
We're not the ones who COERCED women and teens to produce all these
unwanted children - YOU ARE!


You were given a chance to prove that claim before
You failed, and it has been established you lied
Come back when you can prove your claims.

==============
I already have - read your posts for the past week or so.

You haven't proved anything except that you are a raving lunatic who
just screams out accusations without getting to understand another persons
point of view.
I am reading them and nowhere in my post have I suggested I coerce anyone
Try again...when you can learn to be honest with yourself
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 09:07:28 PM
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"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message

Try again...when you can learn to be honest with yourself

=================
You try again...when you can learn to be honest with yourself.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.

User: "Lawrence E. McKnight"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 07:56:26 PM
On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:28:55 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

You haven't proved anything except that you are a raving lunatic who
just screams out accusations without getting to understand another persons
point of view.

SPROING!!! Another workout for the Irony Meter.
-
Larry
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 10:11:17 AM
In article <DoidnS-JXbObDgbd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:13:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How is that gaining? It goes to the child.
First I would have to build an addition to the home for a room, buy
necessities, and support the child


A child requires an additional room?


Yes, in my home an additional child would.

In other words, it would inconvenience Heishman and, while it is easy
to tell others they should sacrifice, he refuses to do so.


Many, many parents don't know that.

In fact, whole families have been brought up in one room homes. In
ignorance, I guess, because they just didn't realize the requirement. And
just out of couriousity, how would you support the child without buying
necessities? I notice you see those as two distinct things.


And I notice that the ones bitching about people not adopting unwanted
children are doing nothing about it themselves

They endorse a woman's free choice, idiot. We don't endorse adoption
and then fail to follow through on our convictions. That is YOU.




You are the one complaining that we don't want to adopt.
Right now I am not in a position to adopt, I am supporting two families

as

it is...not that it is any of your business.
But if you want to really care about adopting unwanted children in this
world and since you are not willing to do it but
complain about others...fine..I will do it..if you are willing to donate.


"Donate" I could see. Throwing money at your rather poorly conceived
scheme is not quite the same.


Then don't ***** about others not wanting to help unwanted children if you
are not willing to do anything yourself
I don't see you doing anything for unwanted children

Look again, dummy. We encourage responsibility. We say, "my a choice."



Personally I think I could agree with almost anything you would say and it
still wouldn't be good enough..you just enjoy bitching at people too much,
assuming and complaining.
Life is too short

Apparently not for you.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 12:57:57 PM
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
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In article <DoidnS-JXbObDgbd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:13:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


How is that gaining? It goes to the child.
First I would have to build an addition to the home for a room, buy
necessities, and support the child


A child requires an additional room?


Yes, in my home an additional child would.


In other words, it would inconvenience Heishman and, while it is easy
to tell others they should sacrifice, he refuses to do so.

========================================
You got that right. He believes a 14 or 15 year old girl can and should
afford to support her unwanted child once forced/coerced to bear it. The
anti-choicers will be long gone after the birth. She should make every
sacrifice for it no matter what kind of place she lives in - but he also
"requires" a child have it's own bedroom..... it's senseless. Where would
she get the money for such fancy digs? Where would she get the $1000 a
month he feels it takes to raise a child? Rent alone in the big cities is
$900 a month and up? What about utilities? Or is it OK for her to live in
squalor and poverty with the unwanted child - what am I missing here?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
======================
.


User: "Lawrence E. McKnight"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 07:54:09 PM
On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:46:08 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:13:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How is that gaining? It goes to the child.
First I would have to build an addition to the home for a room, buy
necessities, and support the child


A child requires an additional room?


Yes, in my home an additional child would.

Hmm. You mean that there is no way you could find room for another
bed? Anyplace in your home? I doubt that. It is just that you are
not willing to make any changes in your lifestyle in order to support
the child. You just want to mandate that for others. Hypocrite.


Many, many parents don't know that.

In fact, whole families have been brought up in one room homes. In
ignorance, I guess, because they just didn't realize the requirement. And
just out of couriousity, how would you support the child without buying
necessities? I notice you see those as two distinct things.


And I notice that the ones bitching about people not adopting unwanted
children are doing nothing about it themselves



You are the one complaining that we don't want to adopt.
Right now I am not in a position to adopt, I am supporting two families

as

it is...not that it is any of your business.
But if you want to really care about adopting unwanted children in this
world and since you are not willing to do it but
complain about others...fine..I will do it..if you are willing to donate.


"Donate" I could see. Throwing money at your rather poorly conceived
scheme is not quite the same.


Then don't ***** about others not wanting to help unwanted children if you
are not willing to do anything yourself
I don't see you doing anything for unwanted children


Personally I think I could agree with almost anything you would say and it
still wouldn't be good enough..you just enjoy bitching at people too much,
assuming and complaining.
Life is too short

-
Larry
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User: "Galen Hekhuis"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 10:01:14 AM
On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:46:08 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Yes, in my home an additional child would.

Back again to personal criteria. Why not let others decide? You think
that people other than those involved can decide about abortion. How about
legislation mandating the "right" way to bring up a child, which in your
opinion requires an additional room? Why stop at laws (or legislators) to
restrict abortion? Remember, an additional room is not a nicety or
convenience, to you it is a *requirement*.

...
Life is too short

I can agree in part with that, life is too short to be concerned with what
is in other people's bodies.
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA

We are the CroMagnon of the future
.

User: "Galen Hekhuis"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 06:28:24 PM
On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month

That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA

We are the CroMagnon of the future
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 06:32:47 PM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?

If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt
Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.
In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.
As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for one
to handle
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 09:22:24 PM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:



"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?


If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt

$ They don't. I searched the web and didn't turn up one agency for
anti-choicers to adopt (or support in any way) unwanted children they
coerced women/girls to bear. No place the women/girls they abandoned after
birth for anti-choicer help of any kind. Where are they hiding?

Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.

$ Why should I? I'm not the one coercing women/girls to bear unwanted
children -YOU ARE! Now then, put your money where your pie-hole is.

In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.

$ My $$$ is where my mouth is - I support CHOICE! :-)

As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for one
to handle

$ Yeah,... right...... and you expect others to support the unwanted
children your ilk coerces women to have. Figures...
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 04:55:49 AM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:



"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?


If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt


$ They don't. I searched the web and didn't turn up one agency for
anti-choicers to adopt (or support in any way) unwanted children they
coerced women/girls to bear. No place the women/girls they abandoned after
birth for anti-choicer help of any kind. Where are they hiding?

Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.


$ Why should I? I'm not the one coercing women/girls to bear unwanted
children -YOU ARE! Now then, put your money where your pie-hole is.

In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.


$ My $$$ is where my mouth is - I support CHOICE! :-)

As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for one
to handle


$ Yeah,... right...... and you expect others to support the unwanted
children your ilk coerces women to have. Figures...

Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something she
didn't want to do.
By the way, we have established that you are the one that doesn't care
about unwanted children. I am fully willing to do my part, you are
not.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 12:45:54 PM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something she
didn't want to do.

$$ Every women who reads your posts here.

By the way, we have established that you are the one that doesn't care
about unwanted children. I am fully willing to do my part, you are
not.

$$ You do NOTHING for children but waste time posting anti-choice BS here on
Usenet. And *WE* have established the fact that YOU care nothing about
unwanted children.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 02:57:43 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something she
didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.

Message ID's are needed to back up your claim


By the way, we have established that you are the one that doesn't care
about unwanted children. I am fully willing to do my part, you are
not.


$$ You do NOTHING for children but waste time posting anti-choice BS here

on

Usenet. And *WE* have established the fact that YOU care nothing about
unwanted children.

You don't know what I do or don't do.
Fact is, you rather ***** and holler than actually listen or reason
I have established the fact that it is you who cares nothing about unwanted
children
What do you do for unwanted children?
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 04:22:59 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something she
didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.
--
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 04:27:52 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.

Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 07 May 2004 09:06:35 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.


Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims

===========
But all YOUR posts are proof of your lies.. :-)
--
FP.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 08 May 2004 08:01:33 AM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing

something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.


Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims

===========
But all YOUR posts are proof of your lies.. :-)

Proof can be tested and stand up...you lied
It is all you got to rely on...you are weak
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 08 May 2004 11:29:00 AM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing

something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.


Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims

===========
But all YOUR posts are proof of your lies.. :-)


Proof can be tested and stand up...you lied

$$ No -YOU LIED!

It is all you got to rely on...you are weak

$$ It's all you got to rely on...you are weak, ineffectual, a failure and
you lie!
--
FP.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 08 May 2004 12:04:10 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing

something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.


Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims

===========
But all YOUR posts are proof of your lies.. :-)


Proof can be tested and stand up...you lied


$$ No -YOU LIED!

Where is the lie?


It is all you got to rely on...you are weak


$$ It's all you got to rely on...you are weak, ineffectual, a failure and
you lie!

Prove I lied
OH wait, here comes her famous trick of evasion. She will say something
weak like
"all your post are proof"
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 08 May 2004 06:07:44 PM
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Name one woman you have seen me try to coerce into doing

something

she

didn't want to do.


$$ Every women who reads your posts here.


Message ID's are needed to back up your claim

=================
Nope - they're all still on the news server.


Sorry but your lies are not proof to back up your claims

===========
But all YOUR posts are proof of your lies.. :-)


Proof can be tested and stand up...you lied


$$ No -YOU LIED!


Where is the lie?

$$ The same place my lie is.

It is all you got to rely on...you are weak


$$ It's all you got to rely on...you are weak, ineffectual, a failure

and

you lie!


Prove I lied

$$ You prove I lied.

OH wait, here comes her famous trick of evasion. She will say something
weak like
"all your post are proof"

$$ They are!
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.











User: "Galen Hekhuis"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 06:39:00 PM
On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:32:47 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Galen Hekhuis" <

> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <

> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?


If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt
Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.
In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.

As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for one
to handle.

Thanks for your thoughts. Would you be kind enough to answer the
questions? Oh, and here's another, why is supporting only two families
enough?
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA

We are the CroMagnon of the future
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 09:27:10 PM
"Galen Hekhuis" <
> wrote in message
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Thanks for your thoughts. Would you be kind enough to answer the
questions? Oh, and here's another, why is supporting only two families
enough?

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA


We are the CroMagnon of the future

==================================
You'll notice that Osprey and IBen never answer questions. They just pound
away about punishing those horrible, dirty, fornicating, irresponsible,
sinner women and teenagers who want to abort unwanted zygotes/embryos. Also
note how they ask the same mindless questions over and over and over....
reminds me of those religious freaks on some NGs. You never can get
straight answers from them. All you get is misdirection, smoke screens, and
other avoidance tactics.... not to mention pure male bovine excreta.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.

User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 06:45:24 PM
"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:32:47 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:22:17 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:



"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:13:53 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?


If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt
Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.
In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.

As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for

one

to handle.


Thanks for your thoughts. Would you be kind enough to answer the
questions?

What do I contribute?
A home
Furniture
Clothes
education
Food
Loving family
Oh, and here's another, why is supporting only two families

enough?

I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
I take care of my mother and my own family.
Thanks to our government lying to our vets, when my father died my mother
didn't get all that they were promised after his 21 years of faithful
service to our country.
So I help her out
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 11:02:06 PM
In article <IZKdnRschPZ0UAfdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


...
You help donate I will seek adoption for a unwanted child


How much?


$1000.00 per month


That's what you consider "help"? How much do you plan to contribute?


If Flower Power wants to complain, saying that pro-lifers don't want to
adopt
Then she can help contribute to cover expenses and setting up a college
fund,
and I will adopt.
In other words, is she willing to put her money where her mouth is.

As it is right now, I take care of two families and that is enough for

one

to handle.


Thanks for your thoughts. Would you be kind enough to answer the
questions?


What do I contribute?
A home
Furniture
Clothes
education
Food
Loving family

In other words he only "contributes" where he is already obligated.
Such a chore. Another Republican who doesn't care for anyone but
himself.
.

User: "Galen Hekhuis"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 07:01:02 PM
On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...

Oh, it's enough because you say so. I'll bet the ability to make that
decision for yourself is pretty important to you, isn't it?
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA

We are the CroMagnon of the future
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 07:13:49 PM
"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...


Oh, it's enough because you say so.

Yea, I think I would know better than you..don't you?
I'll bet the ability to make that

decision for yourself is pretty important to you, isn't it?

I would think that I would be in a much better position to know what I can
handle than you.
Do you think you know better than I?
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 09:31:37 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...


Oh, it's enough because you say so.


Yea, I think I would know better than you..don't you?

===================================
Yea, I think the women who want's to abort would know better than YOU,...
don't you?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 10:08:13 PM
On Thu, 6 May 2004 21:31:37 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FlowersAreFree@womans.net> wrote:


"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...


Oh, it's enough because you say so.


Yea, I think I would know better than you..don't you?

===================================
Yea, I think the women who want's to abort would know better than YOU,...
don't you?

No. No, he doesn't. It's like a pathology with him. He will *not*
admit that anybody who might acknowledge the primacy of determining
the use of one's own body is worth listening to, because that would
mean that he *doesn't* get to control.
--
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
- Richard Dawkins
.


User: "Galen Hekhuis"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 07:24:37 PM
On Thu, 6 May 2004 20:13:49 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <

> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...


Oh, it's enough because you say so.


Yea, I think I would know better than you..don't you?

Oh I agree with you, you are in a much better position to know.

I'll bet the ability to make that
decision for yourself is pretty important to you, isn't it?


I would think that I would be in a much better position to know what I can
handle than you.
Do you think you know better than I?

Not at all. See if you can extend your thoughts to others, especially
women.
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA

We are the CroMagnon of the future
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Reasons for Abortions 06 May 2004 07:26:45 PM
"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 20:13:49 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:45:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


I really don't think it is your business, but I will leave at this
It is all I can personally handle at this time.
...


Oh, it's enough because you say so.


Yea, I think I would know better than you..don't you?


Oh I agree with you, you are in a much better position to know.

Good, then there is no further need for you to ask questions.


I'll bet the ability to make that
decision for yourself is pretty important to you, isn't it?


I would think that I would be in a much better position to know what I

can

handle than you.
Do you think you know better than I?


Not at all. See if you can extend your thoughts to others, especially
women.

And what is that supposed to mean?
I don't try to pretend to know another persons personal position any better
than they.
.









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