Frank Dwyer wrote:

False Document wrote:

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The Republicans hope to do what they did in Florida in 2000,
everywhere in 2004.

Defend victory from Democracy? You bet.

I fixed it for you.

How dishonest of you.

Making your statement more accurate is dishonest?

What's dishonest is to think that Gore won Florida. Gore never had
more votes than Bush in Florida. All subsequent recounts consfirmed
that. Bush rightfully won the election and nothing you say can change
those facts.

Kathy Harris. There, all done. lol

Norc analysis proves you wrong.

Then you'd better tell CNN, as they claim the NORC analysis proved Bush
still won Florida:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html

As well as attempting to discern voter intent in ballots that might have been
re-examined had the recount gone forward, the study
also looked at the possible
effect of poor ballot design, voter error and
malfunctioning machines. That
secondary analysis suggests that more Florida voters
may have gone to the polls
intending to vote for Democrat Al Gore but failed to
cast a valid vote.

Also they ignored the attemt to keep 60,000 innocent black voters of
the rolls by claiming they were felons.

Frank Dwyer wrote:

False Document wrote:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
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False Document <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:1097865745.U5aJHa+
3nMJGdjuMU7odZg@bubbanews:

False Document <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns958394864D864biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in
news:1097864862.V5T0DruR9aM+LR9gKC01NA@bubbanews:

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:141020042125032119%spam@aol.com:

The Republicans hope to do what they did in Florida in 2000,
everywhere in 2004.

Defend victory from Democracy? You bet.

I fixed it for you.

How dishonest of you.

Making your statement more accurate is dishonest?

What's dishonest is to think that Gore won Florida. Gore never had
more votes than Bush in Florida. All subsequent recounts consfirmed
that. Bush rightfully won the election and nothing you say can change
those facts.

Kathy Harris. There, all done. lol

Norc analysis proves you wrong.

Then you'd better tell CNN, as they claim the NORC analysis proved Bush
still won Florida:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html

As well as attempting to discern voter intent in ballots that might have been
re-examined had the recount gone forward, the study
also looked at the possible
effect of poor ballot design, voter error and
malfunctioning machines. That
secondary analysis suggests that more Florida voters
may have gone to the polls
intending to vote for Democrat Al Gore but failed to
cast a valid vote.

Also they ignored the attemt to keep 60,000 innocent black voters of
the rolls by claiming they were felons.

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:57:58 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net>
wrote:

What's dishonest is to think that Gore won Florida. Gore never had
more votes than Bush in Florida. All subsequent recounts consfirmed
that. Bush rightfully won the election and nothing you say can change
those facts.

Norc analysis proves you wrong.

Then you'd better tell CNN, as they claim the NORC analysis proved Bush
still won Florida:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html

Um from that cite:

Use of Palm Beach County standard

Out of Palm Beach County emerged one of the least restrictive
standards for determining a valid punch-card ballot. The county
elections board determined that a chad hanging by up to two corners
was valid and that a dimple or a chad detached in only one corner
could also count if there were similar marks in other races on the

same ballot. If that standard had been adopted statewide, the study

shows a slim, 42-vote margin for Gore.

Inclusion of overvotes
In addition to undervotes, thousands of ballots in the Florida
presidential election were invalidated because they had too many
marks. This happened, for example, when a voter correctly marked a
candidate and also wrote in that candidate's name. The consortium
looked at what might have happened if a statewide recount had included

these overvotes as well and found that Gore would have had a margin

of fewer than 200 votes.

In article <1097948372.W2B5iLHppR7zjj99d3oYrQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Hmm. Not likely. Of course the networks calling Florida for Gore before the
polls closed there likely cost Bush 50,000 votes.

What universe were you living in that year? It's widely reported that
Fox called Florida for Bush many, many hours before it even began to
look like a close race.

And I think the Congressional Black Caucus can tell you about the voters
that were turned away from the polls that year. Or are you saying
they're all lying? 'Cuz for a bunch of liars, they were pretty damn
adamant that they were being ripped off.