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"Papa Jack" |
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04 Mar 2004 03:51:23 PM |
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Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
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Excerpts:
"As lawyers and court watchers have long suspected,
the Supreme Court was ready to effectively overturn
the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion
in 1992, but Justice Anthony M. Kennedy got cold
feet, and the vote went the other way.
"Internal notes in the papers of late Justice Harry
A. Blackmun reveal the secretive dealings that led
to the court's ruling in Planned Parenthood v. Casey
that year.
[...]
"Blackmun's notes show that Chief Justice William H.
Rehnquist led a five-justice majority to overrule Roe.
Four other justices voting with Rehnquist were Byron
White, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Kennedy.
Rehnquist himself was to write the majority opinion.
"Unbeknownst to him, Kennedy was having second thoughts,
and agreed with Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David
Souter, to a compromise position.
"The Casey ruling carved out a middle ground that upheld
a woman's right to abortion largely free from state
regulation.
"The case was argued in April and Rehnquist was at
work on his majority ruling, when Kennedy sent a
note to Blackmun, NPR reported.
"'I need to see you as soon as you have a few
moments,' the note read. 'I want to tell you about
a new development in Planned Parenthood v.
Casey. It should come as welcome news.'
"Blackmun picked up a pink memo pad and
scribbled, 'Roe Sound,' The New York Times
reported Thursday.
"Blackmun had written the Roe ruling 18 years
before, and had guarded it from previous attack
from conservative justices.
"Blackmun's paper legacy, filling more than 1,500
boxes, will be unsealed Thursday on the fifth
anniversary of his death.
[...]
"His authorship of Roe v. Wade brought him more
than 60,000 angry letters and repeated threats
on his life.
[...]
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Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun? After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
How about the "Author of Death?" Or, simply,
"Justice Death?"
Thanks for considering my point of view.
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
04 Mar 2004 04:56:51 PM |
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"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0403041351.594d678e@posting.google.com...
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
I found this snippet particularly interesting:
"His authorship of Roe v. Wade brought him more
than 60,000 angry letters and repeated threats
on his life.
[...]
"Repeated threats on his life"...from whom, pray tell? Certainly not
"pro-lifers", hmmm?
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
"Man of his convictions" works for me.
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
Still haven't figured out the 'human, born, alive' thing, eh?
How about the "Author of Death?" Or, simply,
"Justice Death?"
Keep your day job, Bagdad Jack.
Thanks for considering my point of view.
© Lifenews, AbortionFacts, Crosswalk, wherever you can steal it...
"Patterning your life around other's opinions is nothing more than
slavery."~Lawana Blackwell
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| User: "Dorothy" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
07 Mar 2004 05:45:06 PM |
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"Loose Cannon" <looseain't@this.com> wrote in message
news:TuO1c.21771$aT1.6056@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0403041351.594d678e@posting.google.com...
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
I found this snippet particularly interesting:
"His authorship of Roe v. Wade brought him more
than 60,000 angry letters and repeated threats
on his life.
[...]
"Repeated threats on his life"...from whom, pray tell? Certainly not
"pro-lifers", hmmm?
Since when should we expect those who support ending human life to tell the
truth about anything. I wouldn't have expected Blackman to tell the truth
about what he ate for breakfast and, even less, the truth about anything
that had to do with morality. It's a lot like Hitler supporters saying
Hitler couldn't have had anything to do with the death of the Jews since he
never said anything about killing Jews. Anyone who expects killers to tell
the truth about anything is very stupid. Blackman reporting threats on his
life? Give me a break. He was hyping his own image most likely, making
himself out to be important when he was only a shill for a larger movement.
He probably got a good payoff from International Planned Parenthood and
other rich supporters of the ongoing eugenics movement.
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
"Man of his convictions" works for me.
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
Still haven't figured out the 'human, born, alive' thing, eh?
How about the "Author of Death?" Or, simply,
"Justice Death?"
Keep your day job, Bagdad Jack.
Thanks for considering my point of view.
© Lifenews, AbortionFacts, Crosswalk, wherever you can steal it...
"Patterning your life around other's opinions is nothing more than
slavery."~Lawana Blackwell
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| User: "Galen Hekhuis" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
04 Mar 2004 04:19:00 PM |
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On 4 Mar 2004 13:51:23 -0800, (Papa Jack) wrote:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun? After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
How about the "Author of Death?" Or, simply,
"Justice Death?"
What nickname will you give W for pushing his anti-gay agenda to the point
of an amendment while largely ignoring his anti-abortion agenda?
Thanks for considering my point of view.
Do you too consider it more important to keep gays from marrying than an
amendment that might slow the "senseless slaughter," as you put it?
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
We are the CroMagnon of the future
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| User: "Bert Bishop" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
05 Mar 2004 08:02:53 AM |
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Papa Jack wrote:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"Blackmun had written the Roe ruling 18 years
before, and had guarded it from previous attack
from conservative justices.
[...]
[...]
"His authorship of Roe v. Wade brought him more
than 60,000 angry letters and repeated threats
on his life.
[...]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun? After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
[...]
There have been perhaps 35,000,000+ abotions since 1973 but not
355,000,000 (in the U.S). Perhaps it was a typo.
What of the millions of abortions preceding Roe-v-Wade? And is Blackmun
really responsible for legal abortions which would have been done even
if abortion was illegal? Whenever "pro-life" people quote the number of
legal abortions they give credence to "pro-choice" claims that
"pro-life" people are more interested in making abortion illegal than
they are in opposing abortion itself or in protecting fetal life.
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| User: "Papa Jack" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
06 Mar 2004 12:03:34 PM |
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Bert Bishop <bert_bishop@eudroamail.com> wrote in message
news:<4048888D.AC3B3695@eudroamail.com>...
Papa Jack wrote:
============================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"Blackmun had written the Roe ruling 18 years
before, and had guarded it from previous attack
from conservative justices.
[...]
[...]
"His authorship of Roe v. Wade brought him more
than 60,000 angry letters and repeated threats
on his life.
[...]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun? After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
[...]
============================================================================
Bert Bishop wrote:
There have been perhaps 35,000,000+ abotions since 1973 but not
355,000,000 (in the U.S). Perhaps it was a typo.
============================================================================
Papa Jack blushed:
Oops! My bad. Got my fat finger on the "5" an extra stroke.
I meant to type 35,000,000.
Please excuse my mistake.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
04 Mar 2004 04:07:42 PM |
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Papa Jack wrote:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
______________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
Hero?
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths of actual people.
355,000,000+ and still counting.
How about the "Author of Death?" Or, simply,
"Justice Death?"
Justice Women's Lives?
Thanks for considering my point of view.
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| User: "Papa Jack" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
06 Mar 2004 12:39:32 PM |
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sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c289ep$1r852p$2@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Papa Jack wrote:
=======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"As lawyers and court watchers have long suspected,
the Supreme Court was ready to effectively overturn
the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion
in 1992, but Justice Anthony M. Kennedy got cold
feet, and the vote went the other way.
[snip]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Hero?
=======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
"Hero of the Culture of Death?" That would be
appropriate.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths
of actual people.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
Not according to the Nazi philosophy -- they
considered the Holocaust victims to be sub-humans.
You know, like Pro-Aborts consider fetuses to
be sub-humans.
Why is that concept (i.e., sub-human) always
associated with mass slaughter of human beings?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Nazi plan displaced millions of families
from all over Europe. Through their massive
concentration camp system, with well over one
thousand camps of various sizes, all designed
to imprison innocent humans, considered
SUB-HUMAN by Nazi standards.
[HITLER'S PLANS FOR EASTERN EUROPE]
http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/General/ListeEng.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"...The ‘superior race' belief was based on the
theory of group inequality within each species,
a major presumption and requirement of Darwin's
original ‘survival of the fittest' theory. This
philosophy culminated in the ‘final solution',
the extermination of approximately six million
Jews and four million other people who belonged
to what German scientists judged as ‘INFERIOR RACES'."
[CREATION EVOLUTION NAZI HITLER]
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3836c4427871.htm
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
06 Mar 2004 05:26:53 PM |
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Papa Jack wrote:
sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c289ep$1r852p$2@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Papa Jack wrote:
=======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"As lawyers and court watchers have long suspected,
the Supreme Court was ready to effectively overturn
the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion
in 1992, but Justice Anthony M. Kennedy got cold
feet, and the vote went the other way.
[snip]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Hero?
=======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
"Hero of the Culture of Death?" That would be
appropriate.
You could stop at Hero.
And with death in childbirth on the rise in countries where abortion is
not legal, how do you figure that WE are the culture of death? Why is
life only ever valid when it's a fetus?
=======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths
of actual people.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
Not according to the Nazi philosophy -- they
considered the Holocaust victims to be sub-humans.
The Nazi philosophy was not that they were subhuman, but that they were
races that must be wiped out to purify Germany. They wanted pretty white
**christian** folks only. Funny how the word "christian" tends to
come up associated with mass slaughter.
You know, like Pro-Aborts consider fetuses to
be sub-humans.
I consider it irrelevant. The woman is human and it's in her body.
Why is that concept (i.e., sub-human) always
associated with mass slaughter of human beings?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Nazi plan displaced millions of families
from all over Europe. Through their massive
concentration camp system, with well over one
thousand camps of various sizes, all designed
to imprison innocent humans, considered
SUB-HUMAN by Nazi standards.
[HITLER'S PLANS FOR EASTERN EUROPE]
http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/General/ListeEng.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"...The ‘superior race' belief was based on the
theory of group inequality within each species,
a major presumption and requirement of Darwin's
original ‘survival of the fittest' theory. This
philosophy culminated in the ‘final solution',
the extermination of approximately six million
Jews and four million other people who belonged
to what German scientists judged as ‘INFERIOR RACES'."
[CREATION EVOLUTION NAZI HITLER]
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3836c4427871.htm
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| User: "Papa Jack" |
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| Title: Re: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
07 Mar 2004 05:01:24 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c2dmnv$1sbhrm$1@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Papa Jack wrote:
sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa Jack wrote:
=======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On March 4, 2004, the AP posted an article titled: "
Papers Reveal Roe v. Wade Almost Overturned; Blackmun's
Records Unsealed on Fifth Anniversary of his death." Go to:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/04/scotus.blackmun.papers/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"As lawyers and court watchers have long suspected,
the Supreme Court was ready to effectively overturn
the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion
in 1992, but Justice Anthony M. Kennedy got cold
feet, and the vote went the other way.
[snip]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun?
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Hero?
=======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
"Hero of the Culture of Death?" That would be
appropriate.
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Kitten wrote:
You could stop at Hero.
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Papa Jack remarked:
But, "Hero of the Culture of Death" is so much
more appropriate. That recognizes his strong
role in the slaughter of so many millions of
living human beings.
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Kitten wrote:
And with death in childbirth on the rise in countries
where abortion is not legal, how do you figure that
WE are the culture of death?
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Papa Jack explained:
Because Pro-Aborts encourage and fight for the
rights of the abortion industry. The purpose
and goals of the abortion industry is "DEATH."
BTW, your claim that death in childbirth is on the
rise is ridiculous. Modern medicine has greatly
improved such mortality rates in all but the most
backward of nations. So, your logic is flaky.
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Kitten wrote:
Why is life only ever valid when it's a fetus?
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Papa Jack commented:
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
I celebrate all human life at all stages of
development -- from conception to death.
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Papa Jack wrote:
After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths
of actual people.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
Not according to the Nazi philosophy -- they
considered the Holocaust victims to be sub-humans.
=======================================================================
Kitten wrote:
The Nazi philosophy was not that they were subhuman,
but that they were races that must be wiped out to
purify Germany.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack corrected:
You are wrong, Kitten. Do some research on the
subject. You might start with:
HITLER'S PLANS FOR EASTERN EUROPE
http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/General/ListeEng.html
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Kitten wrote:
They wanted pretty white **christian** folks only.
Funny how the word "christian" tends to come up
associated with mass slaughter.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Do you really believe the Nazis wanted Christians?
That is funny.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
You know, like Pro-Aborts consider fetuses to
be sub-humans.
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Kitten wrote:
I consider it irrelevant. The woman is human and
it's in her body.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
IOW, please don't confuse you with the facts.
When you resort to quoting "bumper sticker"
slogans like that, it shows you can't defend
your position.
=======================================================================
Papa Jack comments continued:
Why is that concept (i.e., sub-human) always
associated with mass slaughter of human beings?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Nazi plan displaced millions of families
from all over Europe. Through their massive
concentration camp system, with well over one
thousand camps of various sizes, all designed
to imprison innocent humans, considered
SUB-HUMAN by Nazi standards.
[HITLER'S PLANS FOR EASTERN EUROPE]
http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/General/ListeEng.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"...The ‘superior race' belief was based on the
theory of group inequality within each species,
a major presumption and requirement of Darwin's
original ‘survival of the fittest' theory. This
philosophy culminated in the ‘final solution',
the extermination of approximately six million
Jews and four million other people who belonged
to what German scientists judged as ‘INFERIOR RACES'."
[CREATION EVOLUTION NAZI HITLER]
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3836c4427871.htm
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07 Mar 2004 05:19:44 PM |
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On 7 Mar 2004 15:01:24 -0800, (Papa Jack) wrote:
When you resort to quoting "bumper sticker"
slogans like that, it shows you can't defend
your position.
-
Larry
(this space unintentionally left blank .....
make obvious deletion for email
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Roe v Wade Almost Overturned |
06 Mar 2004 01:29:18 PM |
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Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths
of actual people.
Not according to the Nazi philosophy -- they
considered the Holocaust victims to be sub-humans.
Just as you consider pregnant women to be sub-humans.
You know, like Pro-Aborts consider fetuses to
be sub-humans.
As do you.
And you're also the one who has tried to justify the murder of
innocent children.
Why is that concept (i.e., sub-human) always
associated with mass slaughter of human beings?
Come to think of it. you have also tried to justify the killing of
millions of people in Vietnam, and the killing of thousands of people
in Iraq. In fact you're generally pro-war, pro-facism, pro-big
government.
Just like the Nazis.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Mar 2004 01:17:57 PM |
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Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Not true. Mengele was responsible for actual deaths
of actual people.
Not according to the Nazi philosophy -- they
considered the Holocaust victims to be sub-humans.
Just as you consider pregnant women to be sub-humans.
You know, like Pro-Aborts consider fetuses to
be sub-humans.
As do you.
And you're the one who tried to justify the murder of innocent
children.
Why is that concept (i.e., sub-human) always
associated with mass slaughter of human beings?
Come to think of it. you have also tried to justify the killing of
millions of people in Veitnam, and the killing of thousands of people
in Iraq. In fact you're generally pro-way, pro-facism, pro-big
government.
Just like the Nazis.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Mar 2004 12:24:31 AM |
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Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:
Josef Mengele was known as the "Angel of Death."
And you are just as callous and coldhearted as was he.
I wonder what nickname should be given to Harry
A. Blackmun? After all, he is responsible for
far more innocent deaths than Mengele --
355,000,000+ and still counting.
And so Jackass justifies his hatred with lies.
Just like Mengele.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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