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28 Jun 2004 02:14:54 AM |
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Scanner shows unborn babies smile |
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
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num tibi mentireris?
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28 Jun 2004 02:54:24 PM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
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This is nothing NEW,... as you seem to think it is. Also tell us about
animal fetuses as they exhibit the SAME random, involuntary and voluntary
movements that human fetuses exhibit. What has this got to do with the
legality of abortion?
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Flower Power....
And there is ALSO the option of obtaining a legal and safe
abortion that will immediately get her life BACK on track as though
the unwanted pregnancy had never occured. No harm done, except for
spending some time and money on the reasonable fee charged
(a fraction of giving birth). After aborting, her well-being
and full range of future opportunities will have immediately been
RESTORED to before the unwanted pregnancy. (Insp. by GR).
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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28 Jun 2004 11:39:35 AM |
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Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
Anybody who has been a parent knows that infants don't smile until
they're about 3 months old.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pastor Flower Power" |
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28 Jun 2004 02:56:23 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
Anybody who has been a parent knows that infants don't smile until
they're about 3 months old.
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What would a fetus have to actually smile about? Their last trip to the
zoo? Their vacation in France? The thought of a nice warm pacifier and dry
diaper?
--
Flower Power....
And there is ALSO the option of obtaining a legal and safe
abortion that will immediately get her life BACK on track as though
the unwanted pregnancy had never occured. No harm done, except for
spending some time and money on the reasonable fee charged
(a fraction of giving birth). After aborting, her well-being
and full range of future opportunities will have immediately been
RESTORED to before the unwanted pregnancy. (Insp. by GR).
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| User: "Steenkin Man" |
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| Title: Re: Scanner shows unborn babies smile (Pro-lie propaganda) |
28 Jun 2004 03:19:24 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:56:23 -0500, "Pastor Flower Pot"
<LesbianWomen@Freedoms.house> wrote:
What would a fetus have to actually smile about? Their last trip to the
zoo? Their vacation in France? The thought of a nice warm pacifier and dry
diaper?
Warmth, comfort, the friendly and familiar sound of their mother's
heartbeat.
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num tibi mentireris?
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| User: "Saint Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Scanner shows unborn babies smile (Pro-lie propaganda) |
29 Jun 2004 02:09:13 AM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:56:23 -0500, "Pastor Flower Pot"
<LesbianWomen@Freedoms.house> wrote:
What would a fetus have to actually smile about? Their last trip to the
zoo? Their vacation in France? The thought of a nice warm pacifier and
dry
diaper?
Warmth, comfort, the friendly and familiar sound of their mother's
heartbeat.
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They wouldn't have any idea what those things mean since they never
experienced being cold, being uncomfortable, or meeting someone unfriendly.
The heartbeat of the mother would be background noise like the sounds of
cars outside one's window. You don't even hear them anymore.....
FP.........
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| User: "EvilZak" |
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29 Jun 2004 12:33:02 PM |
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"Saint Flower Power" <LiberatedLadies@Freedom.com> wrote in message news:<ZrGdnU5pbYoBiHzdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kbcqdFa5qpU2@uni-berlin.de...
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:56:23 -0500, "Pastor Flower Pot"
<LesbianWomen@Freedoms.house> wrote:
What would a fetus have to actually smile about? Their last trip to the
zoo? Their vacation in France? The thought of a nice warm pacifier and
dry
diaper?
Well, until about 10 weeks gestation, it hasn't even got a proper
face, let alone the ability to move muscles to form a smile.
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29 Jun 2004 12:44:17 PM |
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On 29 Jun 2004 10:33:02 -0700, (EvilZak)
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Well, until about 10 weeks gestation, it hasn't even got a proper
face, let alone the ability to move muscles to form a smile.
Define a proper face. Does a face need a nose? Eyes? A jaw?
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num tibi mentireris?
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| User: "Mother Flower Power" |
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30 Jun 2004 01:13:02 AM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kdo3kF16vdeU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 29 Jun 2004 10:33:02 -0700, (EvilZak)
wrote:
Well, until about 10 weeks gestation, it hasn't even got a proper
face, let alone the ability to move muscles to form a smile.
Define a proper face. Does a face need a nose? Eyes? A jaw?
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What's your description of a proper face? An unformed shapeless glob with
no muscles or features yet developed?
--
Flower Power........
What an abortion REALLY looks like.
http://www.angelfire.com/pq/pepsii/nuva.html
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| User: "EvilZak" |
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30 Jun 2004 09:31:35 AM |
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"Mother Flower Power" <LiberatedLadies@Freedom.com> wrote in message news:<UvSdnQ_kitJlxH_dRVn-ig@heartoftn.net>...
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kdo3kF16vdeU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 29 Jun 2004 10:33:02 -0700, (EvilZak)
wrote:
Well, until about 10 weeks gestation, it hasn't even got a proper
face, let alone the ability to move muscles to form a smile.
Define a proper face. Does a face need a nose? Eyes? A jaw?
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What's your description of a proper face? An unformed shapeless glob with
no muscles or features yet developed?
(from Pregnancy & Birth Magazine's Pregnancy Planner)
"Week 8 [[of gestation] the outline of your baby's face now appears -
the two halves of the face will come together and meet in the
middle."
"Week 10 the face is now recognisably human"
A fetus does not have a proper face until about 10 weeks gestation.
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| User: "Sister Flower Power" |
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30 Jun 2004 12:16:13 PM |
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"EvilZak" <> wrote in message
news:1e57ec88.0406300631.6b930711@posting.google.com...
"Mother Flower Power" <LiberatedLadies@Freedom.com> wrote in message
news:<UvSdnQ_kitJlxH_dRVn-ig@heartoftn.net>...
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kdo3kF16vdeU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 29 Jun 2004 10:33:02 -0700, (EvilZak)
wrote:
Well, until about 10 weeks gestation, it hasn't even got a proper
face, let alone the ability to move muscles to form a smile.
Define a proper face. Does a face need a nose? Eyes? A jaw?
==================================
What's your description of a proper face? An unformed shapeless glob
with
no muscles or features yet developed?
(from Pregnancy & Birth Magazine's Pregnancy Planner)
"Week 8 [[of gestation] the outline of your baby's face now appears -
the two halves of the face will come together and meet in the
middle."
"Week 10 the face is now recognisably human"
A fetus does not have a proper face until about 10 weeks gestation.
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Geeze, the anti-choicer crowd would like us to believe it has a face in a
few days after conception.
FP........
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| User: "Graham" |
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29 Jun 2004 12:15:07 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
Anybody who has been a parent knows that infants don't smile until
they're about 3 months old.
Read the article, you stupid, sick, *****:
Babies do not normally smile after birth until they are about six
weeks old.
"This may indicate the baby's calm, trouble-free existence in the womb
and the relatively traumatic first few weeks after birth, when the
baby is reacting to a strange, new environment," Prof Campbell said.
"I don't think people realise the range of facial expressions you get
inside the uterus, or indeed that babies blink."
--Professor Stuart Campbell
Obstetrician
Seems to me like Fischer will deny anything put in front of his face.
That's because he's a LIARRRRRR.
Who pays you, you *****? Planned Parenthood? The Tides Foundation?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Jun 2004 12:16:02 AM |
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Graham <sfdg@fdg.fdg> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
Anybody who has been a parent knows that infants don't smile until
they're about 3 months old.
Read the article, you stupid, sick, *****:
Gee, another pro-liar screeching his hatred.
What're the odds.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Jun 2004 04:25:53 AM |
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Where did I call the obstetrician a liar, you lying Democrat fuckwit?
Ray Fischer wrote:
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30 Jun 2004 11:08:00 AM |
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Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
Where did I call the obstetrician a liar, you lying Democrat fuckwit?
Stupid hypocrite.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Jun 2004 04:27:23 AM |
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Steenkin Man wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
Is it any wonder that the most energetic pro-abortion activists are
lesbian feminists who will never have an abortion nor bear children
themselves....
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| User: "Sister Flower Power" |
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30 Jun 2004 12:20:39 PM |
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"Graham" <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote in message
news:40E2877B.E1A58DD6@fdsg.hgfd...
Steenkin Man wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
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The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
## What's a pro-abortionist? Little people who come out at night to
capture pregnant women to drug senseless and abort them?
Is it any wonder that the most energetic pro-abortion activists are
lesbian feminists who will never have an abortion nor bear children
themselves....
## And the proof of that is found where..... ?
Why would lesbians care what pregnant women do? That's not their problem
just like it's not YOUR problem. :-) And your ignorance is showing like a
shining beacon in the dark - since many lesbians do indeed "choose to have
children."
--
Flower Power........
One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan.
What an abortion REALLY looks like.
http://www.angelfire.com/pq/pepsii/nuva.html
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30 Jun 2004 11:08:53 AM |
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Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
The evidence is that you're a rage-filled fanatic just $50 away from
murdering some doctors.
Women still aren't your slaves.
Deal with it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sister Flower Power" |
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30 Jun 2004 12:32:31 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
The evidence is that you're a rage-filled fanatic just $50 away from
murdering some doctors.
Women still aren't your slaves.
Deal with it.
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They can't deal with it rationally. They cannot let go of the thought of
the power they believe they should still have over women. The power men had
several generations ago. It's killing their souls and poisoning their minds
and hearts.... if you suggest they seek professional help they get
offended. They claim men have no choices. When you point out their choices
they don't even want to consider them.
There are several men on this NG who are $50 away from releasing their pent
up anger, angst and hatred for women by killing them.
FP....
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30 Jun 2004 01:09:37 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:32:31 -0500, "Sister Flower Power"
<LiberatedWomen@Freedom.house> wrote:
They can't deal with it rationally. They cannot let go of the thought of
the power they believe they should still have over women. The power men had
several generations ago. It's killing their souls and poisoning their minds
and hearts.... if you suggest they seek professional help they get
offended. They claim men have no choices. When you point out their choices
they don't even want to consider them.
There are several men on this NG who are $50 away from releasing their pent
up anger, angst and hatred for women by killing them.
if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
you havent said one positive thing about men at all, that i've seen,
on this entire thread. very negative attitude towards men. "Lesbians
dont hate men". Heh. Funniest thing all week long. You're kidding
yourself if you honestly believe that. Some lesbians dont hate men.
Many do.
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| User: "Flower Power DePastor" |
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01 Jul 2004 03:40:31 PM |
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"howldog" <nope@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:32:31 -0500, "Sister Flower Power"
<LiberatedWomen@Freedom.house> wrote:
They can't deal with it rationally. They cannot let go of the thought of
the power they believe they should still have over women. The power men
had
several generations ago. It's killing their souls and poisoning their
minds
and hearts.... if you suggest they seek professional help they get
offended. They claim men have no choices. When you point out their
choices
they don't even want to consider them.
There are several men on this NG who are $50 away from releasing their
pent
up anger, angst and hatred for women by killing them.
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if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
## What's a control issue freak? You mean like all those people who want to
FORCE women to have unwanted children?
you havent said one positive thing about men at all, that i've seen,
## Because you haven't read all my posts. There are many positive things
about men - just as there are about women. Tell me - what POSITIVE things
have the 3 misogynists on this NG said about women?
on this entire thread. very negative attitude towards men. "Lesbians
dont hate men". Heh.
## Why would they HATE men? They're just not sexually attracted to men.
How does THAT mean they hate them? What's the connection? I'm not
attracted to OBESE men - that doesn't mean I hate all OBESE men.
Funniest thing all week long. You're kidding
yourself if you honestly believe that. Some lesbians dont hate men.
Many do.
## Of course some do - some straight women also hate men after a few bad
experiences.
--
Flower Power....
And there is ALSO the option of obtaining a legal and safe
abortion that will immediately get her life BACK on track as though
the unwanted pregnancy had never occured. No harm done, except for
spending some time and money on the reasonable fee charged
(a fraction of giving birth). After aborting, her well-being
and full range of future opportunities will have immediately been
RESTORED to before the unwanted pregnancy. (Insp. by GR).
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01 Jul 2004 04:17:42 PM |
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:40:31 -0500, "Flower Power DePastor"
<Imposters@thisNG.now> wrote:
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if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
## What's a control issue freak?
why, a hypocrit feminist, of course.
next question, please.
You mean like all those people who want to
FORCE women to have unwanted children?
any worse than those women who force men to have be the father of a
child they dont want? Now THAT is a serious issue of control.
you havent said one positive thing about men at all, that i've seen,
## Because you haven't read all my posts.
probably not, but on this particular thread, you;ve been very
negative.
There are many positive things
about men - just as there are about women. Tell me - what POSITIVE things
have the 3 misogynists on this NG said about women?
not much, i bust their asses all the time.
besides, there's only three?
on this entire thread. very negative attitude towards men. "Lesbians
dont hate men". Heh.
## Why would they HATE men?
go down to Agnes Scott in Decatur and ask them. LOL
They're just not sexually attracted to men.
How does THAT mean they hate them?
i think you're confused. with many lesbians, sure, they dont hate men,
they simply arent attracted to them. For many other lesbians, it goes
way beyond not being attracted to men. They hate them and descriminate
against them constantly.
What's the connection? I'm not
attracted to OBESE men - that doesn't mean I hate all OBESE men.
Funniest thing all week long. You're kidding
yourself if you honestly believe that. Some lesbians dont hate men.
Many do.
## Of course some do -
then why in the ***** did you say "lesbians dont hate men" when you
just admitted, at least SOME do?
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02 Jul 2004 11:54:56 AM |
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"howldog" <nope@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:40:31 -0500, "Flower Power DePastor"
<Imposters@thisNG.now> wrote:
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if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
## What's a control issue freak?
why, a hypocrit feminist, of course.
next question, please.
$$ Where you expecting a Stepford Wife? A servant girl from the 1800s? :-)
You mean like all those people who want to
FORCE women to have unwanted children?
any worse than those women who force men to have be the father of a
child they dont want? Now THAT is a serious issue of control.
$$ What stops the man from PROTECTING HIMSELF with a condom? What stops him
from doing as the men who sire all the welfare children do? They don't pay
a dime. No one can force a man to be a father.
you havent said one positive thing about men at all, that i've seen,
## Because you haven't read all my posts.
probably not, but on this particular thread, you;ve been very
negative.
$$ But so have you. I've said it many times already - men can protect
themselves and the smart ones do. If they depend on the women alone for
birth-control they're taking a chance, and should not ***** if she gets
pregnant.
There are many positive things
about men - just as there are about women. Tell me - what POSITIVE
things
have the 3 misogynists on this NG said about women?
not much, i bust their asses all the time.
besides, there's only three?
$$ I'm sure I'm missing some.
on this entire thread. very negative attitude towards men. "Lesbians
dont hate men". Heh.
## Why would they HATE men?
go down to Agnes Scott in Decatur and ask them. LOL
$$ Sorry, it's not worth the bother. :-) How about YOU tell me why they
hate men and what the percentage is.
They're just not sexually attracted to men.
How does THAT mean they hate them?
i think you're confused. with many lesbians, sure, they dont hate men,
they simply arent attracted to them. For many other lesbians, it goes
way beyond not being attracted to men. They hate them and descriminate
against them constantly.
$$ Move to a different area. The Lesbians in your city have a problem.
What's the connection? I'm not
attracted to OBESE men - that doesn't mean I hate all OBESE men.
Funniest thing all week long. You're kidding
yourself if you honestly believe that. Some lesbians dont hate men.
Many do.
## Of course some do -
then why in the ***** did you say "lesbians dont hate men" when you
just admitted, at least SOME do?
$$ Where did I say *NO* lesbians hate men? Are your delusional? :-) Even
SOME men hate men.
--
Flower Power....
And there is ALSO the option of obtaining a legal and safe
abortion that will immediately get her life BACK on track as though
the unwanted pregnancy had never occured. No harm done, except for
spending some time and money on the reasonable fee charged
(a fraction of giving birth). After aborting, her well-being
and full range of future opportunities will have immediately been
RESTORED to before the unwanted pregnancy. (Insp. by GR).
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02 Jul 2004 12:57:18 PM |
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:54:56 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FreeWomen@thisNG.today> wrote:
"howldog" <nope@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:40:31 -0500, "Flower Power DePastor"
<Imposters@thisNG.now> wrote:
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if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
## What's a control issue freak?
why, a hypocrit feminist, of course.
next question, please.
$$ Where you expecting a Stepford Wife?
i'm not expecting, hold onto your cigars.
A servant girl from the 1800s? :-)
so, there are only three role models for modern women? control freak,
stepford wife, and 19th century servant? nothing in between?
any worse than those women who force men to have be the father of a
child they dont want? Now THAT is a serious issue of control.
$$ What stops the man from PROTECTING HIMSELF with a condom?
nothing. what recourse does the man have if
A) the condom breaks
B) the woman lies and says she's on the pill when she isnt, and tells
him to not wear a condom
C) the woman IS on the pill but gets pregnant anyway
at that point, the man has no options. the woman controls part of his
fate for the next 18 years. If you cant see this as a serious issue of
control, well, i wouldnt be surprised.
all i can say is, hurry up science, bring on the male birth control
pill
What stops him
from doing as the men who sire all the welfare children do? They don't pay
a dime.
they're assholes.
No one can force a man to be a father.
except the courts who always side with the mother.
you havent said one positive thing about men at all, that i've seen,
## Because you haven't read all my posts.
probably not, but on this particular thread, you;ve been very
negative.
$$ But so have you.
CLASSIC FEMINIST RESPONSE
excusing womans bad behavior because a man is worse
I've said it many times already - men can protect
themselves and the smart ones do. If they depend on the women alone for
birth-control they're taking a chance, and should not ***** if she gets
pregnant.
thats more patented feminist ***** - you're not a man (are you?)
but you know how they should act and feel and what they should do.
There are many positive things
about men - just as there are about women. Tell me - what POSITIVE
things
have the 3 misogynists on this NG said about women?
not much, i bust their asses all the time.
besides, there's only three?
$$ I'm sure I'm missing some.
if you look, you'll see i'm not exactly kind in my responses to them,
either.
i dislike all the extremists in here.
on this entire thread. very negative attitude towards men. "Lesbians
dont hate men". Heh.
## Why would they HATE men?
go down to Agnes Scott in Decatur and ask them. LOL
$$ Sorry, it's not worth the bother. :-) How about YOU tell me why they
hate men and what the percentage is.
i'm not them, i dont know WHY they hate men. I just know i've been the
target of their hatred and bias on many an occassion.
percentage, i'm not interested in.
They're just not sexually attracted to men.
How does THAT mean they hate them?
i think you're confused. with many lesbians, sure, they dont hate men,
they simply arent attracted to them. For many other lesbians, it goes
way beyond not being attracted to men. They hate them and descriminate
against them constantly.
$$ Move to a different area. The Lesbians in your city have a problem.
ROFL
good one.
as if it would be any different than anywhere else. Like the hateful
lesbians who pollute every single gender-oriented newsgroup, only come
from my city. well thats an interesting thought there buttercup but
not overly realistic.
What's the connection? I'm not
attracted to OBESE men - that doesn't mean I hate all OBESE men.
Funniest thing all week long. You're kidding
yourself if you honestly believe that. Some lesbians dont hate men.
Many do.
## Of course some do -
then why in the ***** did you say "lesbians dont hate men" when you
just admitted, at least SOME do?
$$ Where did I say *NO* lesbians hate men?
nice backpeddle but no dice, yer busted.
"LESBIANS DONT HATE MEN"
thats what you said.
you didnt say NOT ALL or even MOST
scream "reading comprehension" all you want. you made a horrible
generalization, i counted you on it, you backpeddled, now its my fault
for not reading your tiny little mind.
Are your delusional? :-)
are my what delusional?
Even
SOME men hate men.
true. lookit Blob versus the rump riders.
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02 Jul 2004 08:03:18 PM |
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"RC Moonpie" <nope@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:54:56 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FreeWomen@thisNG.today> wrote:
"howldog" <nope@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:40:31 -0500, "Flower Power DePastor"
<Imposters@thisNG.now> wrote:
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if thats true, thats terrible. There are a few men in here that
continually advocate violence in a disturbing way. They're either
whackjobs or trolls.
however, if these morons do blow a gasket and take somebody out,
wouldnt surprise me if it was some obnoxious condescending
control-issues freak like you on the receiving end.
## What's a control issue freak?
why, a hypocrit feminist, of course.
next question, please.
$$ Where you expecting a Stepford Wife?
i'm not expecting, hold onto your cigars.
A servant girl from the 1800s? :-)
so, there are only three role models for modern women? control freak,
stepford wife, and 19th century servant? nothing in between?
## Describe what YOU consider inbetween.
any worse than those women who force men to have be the father of a
child they dont want? Now THAT is a serious issue of control.
$$ What stops the man from PROTECTING HIMSELF with a condom?
nothing. what recourse does the man have if
A) the condom breaks
## Woman's BC fails as well.
B) the woman lies and says she's on the pill when she isnt, and tells
him to not wear a condom
## Any woman who *requires* unprotected sex is an ignorant, uncaring danger
to herself, you and society.
C) the woman IS on the pill but gets pregnant anyway
## If she's on the pill and you use a condom there is a very slim chance of
a pregnancy.
at that point, the man has no options.
## His option is to ALWAYS use a condom.
the woman controls part of his
fate for the next 18 years.
## Not necessarily - visit any Welfare office and see all the unplanned
children who get no support from their fathers.
If you cant see this as a serious issue of
control, well, i wouldnt be surprised.
## How is it control when YOU control the condom use?
all i can say is, hurry up science, bring on the male birth control
pill
## I read they've been working on it but it is not effective.
What stops him
from doing as the men who sire all the welfare children do? They don't
pay
a dime.
they're assholes.
## All men who do not protect themselves are assholes. Disease can be worse
than an unplanned pregnancy.
No one can force a man to be a father.
except the courts who always side with the mother.
## Not necessarily - visit any Welfare office and see all the unplanned
children who get no support from their fathers.
--
BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
-- Robert Anton Wilson
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30 Jun 2004 01:54:33 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
The evidence is that you're a rage-filled fanatic just $50 away from
murdering some doctors.
Good idea. Can we take up a collection?
Here's $100 to start it off. Maybe we can include a few Hillary voters
too.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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| User: "Steenkin Man" |
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30 Jun 2004 07:44:09 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:27:23 +1200, Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
Steenkin Man wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
Is it any wonder that the most energetic pro-abortion activists are
lesbian feminists who will never have an abortion nor bear children
themselves....
That's a fair point. Why are lesbians so concerned about abortion?
It's my belief that they only promote abortion to annoy men. "Kill his
baby! Make him suffer!"
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num tibi mentireris?
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| User: "Sister Flower Power" |
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30 Jun 2004 12:27:03 PM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2kfqstF1kuqjU3@uni-berlin.de...
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:27:23 +1200, Graham <ytu@fdsg.hgfd> wrote:
Steenkin Man wrote:
Advances in ultrasound scanning have allowed doctors to see that
babies in the womb exhibit facial expressions as a reflex in
preparation for birth, obstetrician Stuart Campbell said.
It was previously thought babies learned to smile after birth by
copying their mothers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3105580.stm
The evidence suggests that the pro-abortion movement is animated by
sick, psychopathic liars, who would deny the truth even if put in
front of them.
Is it any wonder that the most energetic pro-abortion activists are
lesbian feminists who will never have an abortion nor bear children
themselves....
That's a fair point. Why are lesbians so concerned about abortion?
It's my belief that they only promote abortion to annoy men. "Kill his
baby! Make him suffer!"
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Lesbians are concerned about women's rights and the right to choose, as are
all normal rational women. Many of them themselves CHOOSE to bear children.
Now you anti-choicers are going to attack lesbians? Your ignorance is
showing again since lesbians don't hate men - they're just not physically
attracted to them. Don't you ever leave the house, watch TV, read a paper?
How can you be so ill informed on things in this day and age?
FP....
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| User: "howldog" |
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30 Jun 2004 01:03:59 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:27:03 -0500, "Sister Flower Power"
<LiberatedWomen@Freedom.house> wrote:
Your ignorance is
showing again since lesbians don't hate men -
ROFL
what planet do you live on?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Jun 2004 07:35:13 PM |
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howldog <nope@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Sister Flower Power"
Your ignorance is
showing again since lesbians don't hate men -
ROFL
what planet do you live on?
Do YOU hate men?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Bob" |
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30 Jun 2004 07:46:18 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
howldog <nope@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Sister Flower Power"
Your ignorance is
showing again since lesbians don't hate men -
ROFL
what planet do you live on?
Do YOU hate men?
Ray idiot obvously does.
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
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