Science > Abortion > SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!!
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"Craig Chilton" |
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08 Oct 2003 09:28:21 AM |
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SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
And it's not as though voters didn't have a viable alternative!
"IT DOESN'T MATTER if the candidate is PRO-Choice and
PRO-equal Rights for Gays!! We REJECT the bigotry of the RRR
cult."
They might just as well have shouted that in unison, verbally,
because that is EXACTLY what today's resounding victory for
personal individual liberties boiled down to.
Gray Davis was governor for five years before he got ousted last
night. It was his lousing up the state's economy that got him the gate.
NOT the fact that he's a Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social liberal.
And the proof of that is the fact that Californians just overwhelmingly
replaced him with ANOTHER Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social
liberal!
The ONLY *viable* candidate in the race who was NOT a social
liberal was McClintock. As this is written, 98% of precincts have
reported in, and per CNN.com, it's as follows:
Schwarzenegger -- 3,529,388 48%
Bustamante -- 2,373,015 32%
McClintock -- 972,894 13%
ALL Others -- 7%
Our most populous state has just spoken, and the message is
WONDROUSLY encouraging: The RRR cult's values matter more
than the economy to only ONE-SEVENTH of them... at the MOST.
And probably less than that, since some of McClintock's supporters
undoubtedly had other reasons for voting for him... INCLUDING ones
pertaining to the economy.
Fascinatingly, in the field of more than 150 candidates, a *nemesis*
of the RRR cult -- porn king and publisher of Hustler magazine, Larry
Flynt -- garnered another 14,969 votes of people who wanted HIM
more than they wanted McClintock. In that huge field, Flynt actually
came in seventh!!
The clear lesson to ALL who are running for public office, or who
already hold office:
You do NOT need to support the RRR cult's warped
and bigoted, so-called "values" (i.e., their anti-personal
liberties agenda) to WIN. You'll do just FINE if you stand
up for abortion rights, for example, and equal rights for
gays. And as we just saw with Schwarzenegger, you
DON'T have to be the least bit tentative in declaring
that. He made his Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay-Rights
stance known unconditionally and without hesitation,
very publicly, during his campaign. REJECT the
RRR cult's hateful agenda, and do it openly. You can
**win** on the pocketbook issues. ("It **IS** the econ-
omy, stupid.") The RRR cultists have to hate that, but
tough. That's the way it IS. It's time to take our
country BACK from their loathesome influence.
It was a very bad day for the RRR cult.
And any *bad* day for *them* is a GREAT day for *America*!!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
08 Oct 2003 10:32:54 AM |
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Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out of
step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's been
the case for a long time, now.
Candidates with Arnold's profile do well in California, but virtually no
where else.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
When the only choice presented to a voter is between a [Pro-Choice],
anti-second amendment, pro gay rights Democrat and the same positions
in a Republican, when the only choice is between party labels, democracy
is as good as dead.
Democracy is doing just fine. Yesterday, California proved that.
And see below, to see the implications of that for the loathesome
RRR cult, and its bigoted and hateful agendas ---
And it's not as though voters didn't have a viable alternative!
"IT DOESN'T MATTER if the candidate is PRO-Choice and
PRO-equal Rights for Gays!! We REJECT the bigotry of the RRR
cult."
They might just as well have shouted that in unison, verbally,
because that is EXACTLY what today's resounding victory for
personal individual liberties boiled down to.
Gray Davis was governor for five years before he got ousted last
night. It was his lousing up the state's economy that got him the gate.
NOT the fact that he's a Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social liberal.
And the proof of that is the fact that Californians just overwhelmingly
replaced him with ANOTHER Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social
liberal!
The ONLY *viable* candidate in the race who was NOT a social
liberal was McClintock. As this is written, 98% of precincts have
reported in, and per CNN.com, it's as follows:
Schwarzenegger -- 3,529,388 48%
Bustamante -- 2,373,015 32%
McClintock -- 972,894 13%
ALL Others -- 7%
Our most populous state has just spoken, and the message is
WONDROUSLY encouraging: The RRR cult's values matter more
than the economy to only ONE-SEVENTH of them... at the MOST.
And probably less than that, since some of McClintock's supporters
undoubtedly had other reasons for voting for him... INCLUDING ones
pertaining to the economy.
Fascinatingly, in the field of more than 150 candidates, a *nemesis*
of the RRR cult -- porn king and publisher of Hustler magazine, Larry
Flynt -- garnered another 14,969 votes of people who wanted HIM
more than they wanted McClintock. In that huge field, Flynt actually
came in seventh!!
The clear lesson to ALL who are running for public office, or who
already hold office:
You do NOT need to support the RRR cult's warped
and bigoted, so-called "values" (i.e., their anti-personal
liberties agenda) to WIN. You'll do just FINE if you stand
up for abortion rights, for example, and equal rights for
gays. And as we just saw with Schwarzenegger, you
DON'T have to be the least bit tentative in declaring
that. He made his Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay-Rights
stance known unconditionally and without hesitation,
very publicly, during his campaign. REJECT the
RRR cult's hateful agenda, and do it openly. You can
**win** on the pocketbook issues. ("It **IS** the econ-
omy, stupid.") The RRR cultists have to hate that, but
tough. That's the way it IS. It's time to take our
country BACK from their loathesome influence.
It was a very bad day for the RRR cult.
And any *bad* day for *them* is a GREAT day for *America*!!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
09 Oct 2003 05:45:28 AM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f8a246f.9721160@netnews.mchsi.com...
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out of
step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state.
We are talking about the same people that elected Reagan, right?
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
09 Oct 2003 08:59:22 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:45:28 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out of
step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state.
We are talking about the same people that elected Reagan, right?
A *portion* of them, probably. But MANY millions of Californians
have reached voting age since then. That was already two DECADES
ago... and longer, if you're talking about his becoming governor. AND...
Reagan was NOT a control-freakish, RRR cultish type of conservative.
Those became influencial later.
And it's not as though voters didn't have a viable alternative!
"IT DOESN'T MATTER if the candidate is PRO-Choice and
PRO-equal Rights for Gays!! We REJECT the bigotry of the RRR
cult."
They might just as well have shouted that in unison, verbally,
because that is EXACTLY what today's resounding victory for
personal individual liberties boiled down to.
Gray Davis was governor for five years before he got ousted last
night. It was his lousing up the state's economy that got him the gate.
NOT the fact that he's a Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social liberal.
And the proof of that is the fact that Californians just overwhelmingly
replaced him with ANOTHER Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay-Rights social
liberal!
The ONLY *viable* candidate in the race who was NOT a social
liberal was McClintock. As this is written, 98% of precincts have
reported in, and per CNN.com, it's as follows:
Schwarzenegger -- 3,529,388 48%
Bustamante -- 2,373,015 32%
McClintock -- 972,894 13%
ALL Others -- 7%
Our most populous state has just spoken, and the message is
WONDROUSLY encouraging: The RRR cult's values matter more
than the economy to only ONE-SEVENTH of them... at the MOST.
And probably less than that, since some of McClintock's supporters
undoubtedly had other reasons for voting for him... INCLUDING ones
pertaining to the economy.
Fascinatingly, in the field of more than 150 candidates, a *nemesis*
of the RRR cult -- porn king and publisher of Hustler magazine, Larry
Flynt -- garnered another 15,000+ votes of people who wanted HIM
more than they wanted McClintock. In that huge field, Flynt actually
came in seventh!!
The clear lesson to ALL who are running for public office, or who
already hold office:
You do NOT need to support the RRR cult's warped
and bigoted, so-called "values" (i.e., their anti-personal
liberties agenda) to WIN. You'll do just FINE if you stand
up for abortion rights, for example, and equal rights for
gays. And as we just saw with Schwarzenegger, you
DON'T have to be the least bit tentative in declaring
that. He made his Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay-Rights
stance known unconditionally and without hesitation,
very publicly, during his campaign. REJECT the
RRR cult's hateful agenda, and do it openly. You can
**win** on the pocketbook issues. ("It **IS** the econ-
omy, stupid.") The RRR cultists have to hate that, but
tough. That's the way it IS. It's time to take our
country BACK from their loathesome influence.
It was a very bad day for the RRR cult.
And any *bad* day for *them* is a GREAT day for *America*!!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
09 Oct 2003 05:02:37 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f8f670b.4187542@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:45:28 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out
of
step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute
people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state.
We are talking about the same people that elected Reagan, right?
A *portion* of them, probably. But MANY millions of Californians
have reached voting age since then. That was already two DECADES
ago... and longer, if you're talking about his becoming governor. AND...
Reagan was NOT a control-freakish, RRR cultish type of conservative.
Those became influencial later.
Hmmm... If you say so...
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!! *BIG* Time!! |
09 Oct 2003 06:06:46 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:02:37 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out
of step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute
people live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state.
We are talking about the same people that elected Reagan, right?
A *portion* of them, probably. But MANY millions of Californians
have reached voting age since then. That was already two DECADES
ago... and longer, if you're talking about his becoming governor. AND...
Reagan was NOT a control-freakish, RRR cultish type of conservative.
Those became influencial later.
Hmmm... If you say so...
Recent history bears that out.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: SEE, Fellow Republicans? You CAN **Reject** the RRR Cult and WIN!!*BIG* Time!! |
08 Oct 2003 11:02:11 AM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
The message rang out loud and clear throughout California,
yesterday.
Yep, the message that California is far more liberal and well out of
step with the rest of the country.
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state.
Recall Hillary! :-)
If they're any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's been
the case for a long time, now.
Recall, earthquakes, bad movies, pollution, high cost of living, whiny
socialites, murderers playing golf, major sports figures being arrested
- Why does the thought of following California's lead strike me as
unsettling?
Candidates with Arnold's profile do well in California, but virtually no
where else.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Arnold is following a trend already set: Ventura, Largent, Bono,
Eastwood, et al.
When the only choice presented to a voter is between a [Pro-Choice],
anti-second amendment, pro gay rights Democrat and the same positions
in a Republican, when the only choice is between party labels, democracy
is as good as dead.
Democracy is doing just fine.
I, for one, couldn't agree more.
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08 Oct 2003 11:31:52 AM |
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In alt.politics.homosexuality Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Recall, earthquakes, bad movies, pollution, high cost of living, whiny
socialites, murderers playing golf, major sports figures being arrested
- Why does the thought of following California's lead strike me as
unsettling?
Because that's the way you WANT to see it. You'd rather be following
my state of Alabama, perhaps?
--
Curtis at Sieber dot Com
"You never know what's really in any fondue that a gay person makes, so I
wouldn't have none no way. I think this was her SMEGMA." Lurlean Tucker
makes a really bad impression as the newspaper's food critic.
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| User: "Paul" |
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08 Oct 2003 02:09:22 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californian's like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
California's are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the trend is
away from support for their positions.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Guess what he was.
Liberalism is dead, trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Paul Galvanek - Ver. 4.01
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can
vote themselves largess from the public treasury.”
-- Sir Alex Fraser Tytler
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08 Oct 2003 04:41:19 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:09:22 -0400,
Paul Galvanek <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californians like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
During the years I lived in California, I seldom had the perception
that we were trend-setting. I've FAR more perceived that during the
years I've lived in the South (VA and FL), the East (NY), and the Midwest
(IN and IA). Often, over the years, Ive observed something that was
happening in California but not there... only to see it catch on in my
area weeks or months later. With luck, California's social liberalism
will strongly influence the rest of America in the same direction.
Californians are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the
trend is away from support for their positions.
Reliable and respected polls, such as Gallup and harris, have
consistently shown for decades that the USA is Pro-Choice, 2-1.
A person has to either be very ignorant, or very programmed, to be
ANTI-Choice. Thus, as tolerance for person liberties increases, I
think that the extinction of that form of bigotry isn't too far off. And
the same pollong services have found that America s RAPIDLY
losing its bigotry with respect to homosexuality. This is probably
largely due to TV programs that reflect it as it SHOULD be reflected:
a perfectly normal alternate lifestyle.
I never noticed any anti-Second Amendment sentiment while
living in California. But that's not an issue for me, in any case.
Guns? I can take 'em or leave 'em. It's not a necessary right in
the 21st century. So if it lasted forever, that wouldn't bother me a
bit. And if it were repealed tomorrow, that wouldn't bother me either.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Guess what he was.
I assume you're talking about Reagan. If so, he was a harmless
conservative... NOT the RRR cult variety that prevails so much today.
He took NO active action against abortion, and gay rights activism was
still in its infancy, so wasn't anything he dealt with, to my knowledge.
Liberalism is dead,...
In your DREAMS!!! As i just pointd out, it's THRIVING! And can be
expected to do so even more in a couple of months when the new liberal
radio network gets going, and starts publicly blowing the whistle on the
rampant and blatant (and MINDLESS!!) control-freakism and busybodyism of
the RRR cultists. That should be a major contributor to reducing that
brand of social conservatives to laughingstock status, and to severely
damaging their hateful agendas against First Amendment rights, abortion
rights, and gays.
...trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
You're living in a fantasy world.
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Clinton was a liberal from the word, "Go!!" And was very clear
in his support, for example, for equal rights for gays, and for safe
and legal abortion on request. He was RE-elected in a breeze,
and probably would have gotten a third term, had it still been
Constitutional. (Despite the idiocy foisted against him about
Monica.) During his presidency, we had the greates period of
peace and prosperity in American history.
Let us know when you're ready to join the REAL world.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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08 Oct 2003 02:55:54 PM |
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Paul wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californian's like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
California's are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the trend is
away from support for their positions.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Guess what he was.
Popular
Liberalism is dead, trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Reagan was out of California.
Clinton wasn't liberal?
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08 Oct 2003 03:14:42 PM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F846BD1.77F38552@citlink.net...
Paul wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute
people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're
any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see
America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's
been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californian's like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
California's are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the trend is
away from support for their positions.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Sonny Bono
Guess what he was.
Popular
Liberalism is dead, trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Reagan was out of California.
Clinton wasn't liberal?
You know what? If Arnold is successul, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
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09 Oct 2003 05:21:13 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:DfucnYdgYYWy7RmiXTWJjg@comcast.com...
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F846BD1.77F38552@citlink.net...
Paul wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute
people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If
they're
any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not
in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see
America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's
been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californian's like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
California's are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the trend
is
away from support for their positions.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Sonny Bono
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
Guess what he was.
Popular
Liberalism is dead, trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Reagan was out of California.
Clinton wasn't liberal?
You know what? If Arnold is successul, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
They have to ammend the constitution first. He wasn't born in the U.S.
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09 Oct 2003 06:09:52 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:21:13 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Paul wrote:
Name the last California governor, or politician for that
matter, to have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Sonny Bono
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
ROTFL!!! One tree at a time.
-- Craig Chilton
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09 Oct 2003 06:22:57 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:21:13 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Paul wrote:
Name the last California governor, or politician for that
matter, to have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Sonny Bono
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
ROTFL!!! One tree at a time.
It was a sick joke at a dead guy's expense, but I couldn't help myself. :c)
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09 Oct 2003 07:48:08 PM |
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"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in
news:l5mhb.8156$Eo2.6919@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Sonny Bono
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
ROTFL!!! One tree at a time.
It was a sick joke at a dead guy's expense, but I couldn't help
myself. :c)
After all, he and his then-wife performed a song called "I've got yew,
babe."
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09 Oct 2003 08:35:40 PM |
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"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns940FCA8C1A472ebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4...
"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in
news:l5mhb.8156$Eo2.6919@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Sonny Bono
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
ROTFL!!! One tree at a time.
It was a sick joke at a dead guy's expense, but I couldn't help
myself. :c)
After all, he and his then-wife performed a song called "I've got yew,
babe."
I'm torn between laughter, and hurling... :c)
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09 Oct 2003 09:49:24 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 23:22:57 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Paul wrote:
Name the last California governor, or politician for that
matter, to have an impact on national politics...
Reagan.
Sonny Bono.
I thought he had an impact on the forestry department. :c)
ROTFL!!! One tree at a time.
It was a sick joke at a dead guy's expense, but I couldn't help myself. :c)
<<<chuckle>>> I agree. We meant no malice. But it WAS too good
to resist! :) Considering Sonny's sense of humor, he probably would
have appreciated it.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Adam H." |
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08 Oct 2003 03:23:58 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:14:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F846BD1.77F38552@citlink.net...
Paul wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
"Sorry" to disappoint you, but many of America's most astute
people
live in California -- America's most TREND-SETTING state. If they're
any
more liberal than the rest of the country (true in some areas, not in
others), that just means they're ahead of the curve. Want to see
America
*five years from now*? Just look at California *today*. And that's
been
the case for a long time, now.
You should look a little closer.
Californian's like to think they're trend setters but they rarely are.
California's are solidly pro-abortion, gay rights and anti second
amendment while polling over the last few decades has shown the trend is
away from support for their positions.
See above. And now he can set the trend!
Yeah like Pete Wilson did?
Name the last California governor, or politician for that matter, to
have an impact on national politics...
Reagan
Sonny Bono
Guess what he was.
Popular
Liberalism is dead, trends in opinions are tot he conservative side,
Californians have little or no sway in politics any more...
It's the south that sets the trends my friend, that's where the
conservative power flows from - that's where the last five presidents
have come from and none of them ever ran as liberals.
Reagan was out of California.
Clinton wasn't liberal?
You know what? If Arnold is successul, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Not without a constitutional amendment, he can't.
---
Militant Agnostic:
I don't know and you don't either.
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08 Oct 2003 04:01:20 PM |
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In alt.politics.homosexuality Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:14:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successul, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Not without a constitutional amendment, he can't.
Maybe Maria could run with a quick 'winking' promise that Ahnuld would
*really* be in control, like the Wallaces in Alabama in 1966?
--
Curtis at Sieber dot Com
"You do know there's a special wing of hell just for homosexuals,
don't you?" -- Bernadette attempts to elicit a 'Holy Apartheid,
Batman!' response
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08 Oct 2003 03:55:07 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
First there's the Constitutional prohibition against it happening...
Then shall we put together list of pro abortion, anti second amendment
and pro gay Republicans from California who've tried and gotten smacked
down hard?
Paul Galvanek - Ver. 4.01
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can
vote themselves largess from the public treasury.”
-- Sir Alex Fraser Tytler
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08 Oct 2003 10:05:12 PM |
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"Paul" <send_it_to@aol.com> wrote in message
news:bm1u32$f6f$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
Osprey wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason why he
shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
First there's the Constitutional prohibition against it happening...
Then shall we put together list of pro abortion, anti second amendment
and pro gay Republicans from California who've tried and gotten smacked
down hard?
Paul Galvanek - Ver. 4.01
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09 Oct 2003 12:33:02 AM |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:12 -0700,
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introuced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
-- Craig Chilton
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09 Oct 2003 05:24:22 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f86f168.3673402@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:12 -0700,
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introuced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you never
know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea of a
president with the possibility of split allegiances.
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09 Oct 2003 05:59:48 PM |
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Light Templar wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f86f168.3673402@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:12 -0700,
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introuced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you never
know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea of a
president with the possibility of split allegiances.
I read in another newsgroup someone claiming that Arnold was the
antichrist. A test of that would be if Arnold became so popular with
the masses that they demanded and got passage of an amendment allowing
somene like him to be president.
--
Why do more men than women support legal abortion? Abortion is a man's
best friend. It enables him to pressure his woman to kill her offspring
and allows her man to enjoy sex without consequences. Abortion. What a
beautiful choice.
Want to know what abortion looks like?
http://www.geocities.com/sassme.geo/truthis.html
http://www.holylamb.com/abortion2.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mttu.com%2Fabort-pics%2F
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontruth.com%2Fpictures.html
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Ffacelife.org%2Fcontent%2Fvideoscontent.htm
http://womensissues.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abortiontv.com%2Fsilentscream.htm
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09 Oct 2003 06:22:06 PM |
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"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3F85E7DB.429F@excite.com...
Light Templar wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f86f168.3673402@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:05:12 -0700,
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introuced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President.
If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you never
know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea of a
president with the possibility of split allegiances.
I read in another newsgroup someone claiming that Arnold was the
antichrist. A test of that would be if Arnold became so popular with
the masses that they demanded and got passage of an amendment allowing
somene like him to be president.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to call him the antichrist. I don't think
he's intelligent enough for that. :c)
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09 Oct 2003 06:24:04 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:24:22 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introduced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you
never know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea
of a president with the possibility of split allegiances.
Before JFK, many people believed that about Catholics. He proved
otherwise, and it hasn't been an issue since.
I think this is long overdue, and I hope we get it done.
-- Craig Chilton
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09 Oct 2003 08:34:56 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f90ecd7.38444988@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:24:22 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no reason
why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introduced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you
never know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea
of a president with the possibility of split allegiances.
Before JFK, many people believed that about Catholics.
Some still do. :c)
He proved
otherwise, and it hasn't been an issue since.
I think this is long overdue, and I hope we get it done.
I don't. I think it's just fine the way it is.
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09 Oct 2003 09:53:13 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:34:56 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no
reason why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has introduced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President. If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you
never know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea
of a president with the possibility of split allegiances.
Before JFK, many people believed that about Catholics.
Some still do. :c)
He proved otherwise, and it hasn't been an issue since.
I think this is long overdue, and I hope we get it done.
I don't. I think it's just fine the way it is.
You may have noticed in my posts that I am
very MUCH a "big tent" person.
-- Craig Chilton
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10 Oct 2003 05:14:45 AM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3f961e08.51040278@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:34:56 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no
reason why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has
introduced
a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the provision that
currently prohibits those not born in America from being President.
If
that passes, he COULD be President someday. A fair-minded, sensible,
PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you
never know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea
of a president with the possibility of split allegiances.
Before JFK, many people believed that about Catholics.
Some still do. :c)
He proved otherwise, and it hasn't been an issue since.
I think this is long overdue, and I hope we get it done.
I don't. I think it's just fine the way it is.
You may have noticed in my posts that I am
very MUCH a "big tent" person.
Well, if you don't drink before going to bed, that doesn't happen as often.
:c)
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10 Oct 2003 07:21:18 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:14:45 GMT,
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"Light Templar" wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert Heishman ("Osprey") wrote:
You know what? If Arnold is successful, which I see no
reason why he shouldn't be, he could run for President one day.
Are you really that stupid?
He is.
Hmmm. Evidently you're unaware that Sen. Orrin Hatch has
introduced a Constitutional Amendment that would REPEAL the
provision that currently prohibits those not born in America from
being President. If that passes, he COULD be President someday.
A fair-minded, sensible, PRO-Choice, PRO-Gay Rights, President.
My understanding is that it has little chance of passage. But you
never know. Still a lot of repubs and dems that don't like the idea
of a president with the possibility of split allegiances.
Before JFK, many people believed that about Catholics.
Some still do. :c)
He proved otherwise, and it hasn't been an issue since.
I think this is long overdue, and I hope we get it done.
I don't. I think it's just fine the way it is.
You may have noticed in my posts that I am
very MUCH a "big tent" person.
Well, if you don't drink before going to bed, that
doesn't happen as often. :c)
LOL!! (But just for the record, the strongest thing I
drink is Vanilla Pepsi. [Just one of *many* things -- other
than having a publishing **empire** -- that I have in common
with Hugh Hefner. :) ])
-- Craig Chilton
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