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Shall Conservative Women Abort Their Liberal Children? |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883038/posts
Gays and Baby Killers: A Shaky Alliance?
Mark Crutcher Blog ^ | 8/18/07 | Mark Crutcher
Posted on 08/18/2007 7:48:42 AM PDT by Zender500
How would you like to ask the pro-choice mob a question that is
guaranteed to have them jumping around like worms on a hot rock? Well,
read on.
Three facts are important to know. First, though there are certainly
members of the gay community who are pro-life, go to any large public
event put on by the pro-choice gang, or read any edition of the NOW
Times or MS Magazine, and you will see that the "mainstream"
homosexual lobby and the "mainstream" abortion lobby are joined at the
hip.
Second, the current "enlightened" and "politically correct" view is
that homosexuality is not a choice but a function of genetics. While I
am not convinced this is true, if it is then it is only a matter of
time before scientists identify the genetic marker for homosexuality.
Third, the abortion lobby has made it clear that they will never back
away from their fundamental assertion that the reasons for abortion
are no ones business except the women who have them.
In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
When you ask that question, their only options are to either abandon
their basic position or risk alienating one of their most loyal
support groups. We should also keep in mind that these people have
failed this sort of test before. You may recall that standing-up for
the disabled was, at one point, sold as an integral part of the
liberal agenda. But the first time that effort conflicted with the
abortion license, the Godless Left did not hesitate for one moment to
throw the disabled under the bus.
The result is that, for example, in America today over 90 percent of
babies with Down syndrome are killed in the womb. In fact, legalized
abortion has so decayed American society that abortion is now the
default position for women carrying a child with even the most
insignificant abnormalities. In our brave new world, if a new mom
delivers a handicapped baby she better be prepared to routinely answer
the question, "Didn't your doctor tell you about this while you were
still pregnant?"
That sorry question and all it implies is part of the "better-dead-
than-disabled" mentality that now infects our country. And make no
mistake about it, that mindset is the sole responsibility of the pro-
choice mob and it has helped them sell lots of abortions. To one
degree or another, it has also created a rift between them and those
who truly care about the disabled.
Whatever the consequences, it is pretty clear that the Choice Mafia is
not going to turn off this path. They have apparently decided that
they cannot afford to say that any woman should be denied her "right
to choose" for any reason. If a "homosexual gene" is ever identified,
the bloodbath they are currently prosecuting against Down syndrome and
other "imperfect" children will be expanded to include those who might
turn out to be gay. In fact, we may discover that parents are actually
more likely to have a potentially gay child killed than one with Down
syndrome.
If the homosexual lobby has not yet thought about this issue, it's
time they did. We need to show them that when the American holocaust
turns its attention in their direction, it will be their pro-choice
buddies who not only defend it but carry it out.
We should also introduce the reality that this phenomenon is not going
to be limited to homosexuality. Some scientists are now speculating
that genetics may influence people to embrace certain political
ideologies. So imagine that someday a conservative, but otherwise pro-
choice, organization launches a campaign to encourage - not force or
require but simply encourage - pregnant women to kill any fetus they
are carrying who is identified as having a politically liberal genetic
marker. Would these pro-choice death-merchants have any problem with
that?
If you analyze what genetic scientists are now suggesting, the
possibilities for this line of dialog are endless. If it is true that
virtually every person born into the world is a potential member of a
group that could be genetically identified, that means they could be
targeted for extinction through abortion.
The bizarre part of this is that, if we press this issue to its
logical conclusion, the abortion lobby may be forced to adopt a
completely different "abortion-justification" argument. Instead of
saying that women should be allowed to abort for any reason
whatsoever, they may have to say that the only women who should be
allowed to abort are those who are doing so for no reason whatsoever.
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23 Aug 2007 03:25:29 PM |
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On Aug 23, 8:25 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
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In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
Yes. Whether or not a woman wants any children or a particular child
is nobody's business but hers.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Aug 2007 04:43:37 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:25:29 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
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On Aug 23, 8:25 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
<Snippage>
In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
Yes. Whether or not a woman wants any children or a particular child
is nobody's business but hers.
Except in STrumpet's case. If ever there was a case for forced
abortion ...
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| User: "MarkA" |
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23 Aug 2007 11:03:01 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:25:27 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883038/posts
Gays and Baby Killers: A Shaky Alliance?
Mark Crutcher Blog ^ | 8/18/07 | Mark Crutcher
Posted on 08/18/2007 7:48:42 AM PDT by Zender500
How would you like to ask the pro-choice mob a question that is
guaranteed to have them jumping around like worms on a hot rock? Well,
read on.
Three facts are important to know. First, though there are certainly
members of the gay community who are pro-life, go to any large public
event put on by the pro-choice gang, or read any edition of the NOW
Times or MS Magazine, and you will see that the "mainstream"
homosexual lobby and the "mainstream" abortion lobby are joined at the
hip.
Second, the current "enlightened" and "politically correct" view is
that homosexuality is not a choice but a function of genetics. While I
am not convinced this is true, if it is then it is only a matter of
time before scientists identify the genetic marker for homosexuality.
Third, the abortion lobby has made it clear that they will never back
away from their fundamental assertion that the reasons for abortion
are no ones business except the women who have them.
I'm with you so far...
In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
If by "kill her unborn child", you mean "electively terminate her
pregnancy," then the answer is (Duh) yes. The WOMAN gets to chose. Her
reasons are her own. I guess that must be a really hard concept for you
to grasp.
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MarkA
(This space accidentally filled in)
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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23 Aug 2007 08:19:59 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
The answer to that is already known. They will say that they would not, that they would
love the child, yadda, yadda, yadda. The might even mention that the fees their child's
psychologist charges them when they become adults are actually a form of economic stimulus.
The result is that, for example, in America today over 90 percent of
babies with Down syndrome are killed in the womb.
And that is bad. Right?
Consider one thing: How many people can afford the child. Down's Syndrome incurs quite a
formidable set of bills. I know this first hand, as a coworker has a child with it. The
child is nice, sweet, generous, giving, a pleasure to be around. She also is hospitalized
several times a year. Sometimes for weeks on end.
Not everyone can afford the financial strain. Is it moral to force that upon them?
Not everyone can deal with the emotional strain. Facing death is a draining experience.
Now picture facing it -- guaranteed -- at least once a year; And picture the
almost-certain knowledge that you will outlive your child. (Barring venturing into the
path of an oncoming semi, being shot during a mugging, etc...)
It is a form of slow torture. But let's support it; Demand it even.
And the care... The child, well adult now, still does not grasp that boiling water is
harmful. All animals are good, even the ones which are growling, barking, straining at the
tether, and displaying all the obvious signs that if they get to you, you're lunch --
literally. (Yep, she was mauled once. "Nice doggie do bad thing.")
Priced a babysitter lately? What do they charge per hour? You'll need a team. They'll need
special training. They'll cost a lot more than the neighborhood teenager. Many Down's
Syndrome children will require 24/7 supervision for their entire life. Letting them out of
your site can literally be fatal.
I will admit, my life has been enriched. The parents could afford the financial burden.
She has the best care.
They also took out three mortgages, despite their salaries. (She's 19 now, most unusual
for a Down's child.)
Mom is frequently not at work for days on end. Sometimes leaving post-haste -- several
times during meetings she was leading -- at the chirp of her cell phone. And she'll be a
basket case for days thereafter.
Yeppers. Let's make everyone experience that; Even if they can't.
Seen the suicide stats for Down's parents?
The simple fact is that some folks know what they can and can't handle.
And my personal little example? She's back home now. Last week she was in the hospital for
yet another bout with pneumonia. They're getting worse. The drugs less effective.
I love her to death. And I also know the dish I'll bring to her wake: Orange Jell-O with
cherries and pineapple, made with Sprite instead of water. Her favorite. We planned it
over two years ago.
If the homosexual lobby has not yet thought about this issue, it's
time they did. We need to show them that when the American holocaust
turns its attention in their direction, it will be their pro-choice
buddies who not only defend it but carry it out.
<chuckle> *SURE* it will. And then we'll look at their position before they knew, and note
something interesting.
I don't know where you dug this person up, Trumpet. But would you please consider
re-interring them?
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter."
-- Blaise Pascal
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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| User: "Thomas Keske" |
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23 Aug 2007 07:37:14 PM |
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The people who bellyache the loudest about abortion
are the very people who should have been aborted.
Tom Keske
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message news:1187882727.974031.59020@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883038/posts
Gays and Baby Killers: A Shaky Alliance?
Mark Crutcher Blog ^ | 8/18/07 | Mark Crutcher
Posted on 08/18/2007 7:48:42 AM PDT by Zender500
How would you like to ask the pro-choice mob a question that is
guaranteed to have them jumping around like worms on a hot rock? Well,
read on.
Three facts are important to know. First, though there are certainly
members of the gay community who are pro-life, go to any large public
event put on by the pro-choice gang, or read any edition of the NOW
Times or MS Magazine, and you will see that the "mainstream"
homosexual lobby and the "mainstream" abortion lobby are joined at the
hip.
Second, the current "enlightened" and "politically correct" view is
that homosexuality is not a choice but a function of genetics. While I
am not convinced this is true, if it is then it is only a matter of
time before scientists identify the genetic marker for homosexuality.
Third, the abortion lobby has made it clear that they will never back
away from their fundamental assertion that the reasons for abortion
are no ones business except the women who have them.
In light of these three facts, let's ask our enemies one simple and
completely appropriate question: Should it be legal for a woman to
kill her unborn child solely because there is genetic evidence that
the child may turn out to be gay?
When you ask that question, their only options are to either abandon
their basic position or risk alienating one of their most loyal
support groups. We should also keep in mind that these people have
failed this sort of test before. You may recall that standing-up for
the disabled was, at one point, sold as an integral part of the
liberal agenda. But the first time that effort conflicted with the
abortion license, the Godless Left did not hesitate for one moment to
throw the disabled under the bus.
The result is that, for example, in America today over 90 percent of
babies with Down syndrome are killed in the womb. In fact, legalized
abortion has so decayed American society that abortion is now the
default position for women carrying a child with even the most
insignificant abnormalities. In our brave new world, if a new mom
delivers a handicapped baby she better be prepared to routinely answer
the question, "Didn't your doctor tell you about this while you were
still pregnant?"
That sorry question and all it implies is part of the "better-dead-
than-disabled" mentality that now infects our country. And make no
mistake about it, that mindset is the sole responsibility of the pro-
choice mob and it has helped them sell lots of abortions. To one
degree or another, it has also created a rift between them and those
who truly care about the disabled.
Whatever the consequences, it is pretty clear that the Choice Mafia is
not going to turn off this path. They have apparently decided that
they cannot afford to say that any woman should be denied her "right
to choose" for any reason. If a "homosexual gene" is ever identified,
the bloodbath they are currently prosecuting against Down syndrome and
other "imperfect" children will be expanded to include those who might
turn out to be gay. In fact, we may discover that parents are actually
more likely to have a potentially gay child killed than one with Down
syndrome.
If the homosexual lobby has not yet thought about this issue, it's
time they did. We need to show them that when the American holocaust
turns its attention in their direction, it will be their pro-choice
buddies who not only defend it but carry it out.
We should also introduce the reality that this phenomenon is not going
to be limited to homosexuality. Some scientists are now speculating
that genetics may influence people to embrace certain political
ideologies. So imagine that someday a conservative, but otherwise pro-
choice, organization launches a campaign to encourage - not force or
require but simply encourage - pregnant women to kill any fetus they
are carrying who is identified as having a politically liberal genetic
marker. Would these pro-choice death-merchants have any problem with
that?
If you analyze what genetic scientists are now suggesting, the
possibilities for this line of dialog are endless. If it is true that
virtually every person born into the world is a potential member of a
group that could be genetically identified, that means they could be
targeted for extinction through abortion.
The bizarre part of this is that, if we press this issue to its
logical conclusion, the abortion lobby may be forced to adopt a
completely different "abortion-justification" argument. Instead of
saying that women should be allowed to abort for any reason
whatsoever, they may have to say that the only women who should be
allowed to abort are those who are doing so for no reason whatsoever.
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