Science > Abortion > So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
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So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
Legal marriage in general losing popularity, especially in Quebec;
single person residences increasing the most
By Hilary White
OTTAWA, September 12, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Newly released numbers
from Statistics Canada have shown that in the year since "gay
marriage" has been a legal reality in Canada, there has been a less
than overwhelming level of interest in mimicking natural marriage by
actual homosexuals.
Statistics Canada's "family portrait" of Canadians examines
developments in families, marital status, households and living
arrangements in Canada between 2001 and 2006, what StatsCan calls
"evolving" family structures. For the first time, the federal census
agency lists those in officially recognised "gay marriages".
45,300 homosexual pairings, either formally "married" or common-law,
were registered.
Of the total, 7,465, or 16.5 per cent, were "married". Despite claims
by the homosexual activist movement that homosexuals account for 10
per cent of the general population, by 2006, a year after same-sex
"marriage" was legalized, same-sex couples, either "married" or
cohabiting, represented only 0.6 per cent of all couples in Canada.
In the 1999 ruling in M. v. H., the Supreme Court of Canada decided
that same-sex partners would also be included in common law
relationships. After the imposition of legal same-sex "marriage" in
2005 the StatsCan survey shows the number of same-sex couples
officially registering as "married" grew 32.6 per cent since 2000.
The figures for same-sex relationships are also more a time snap-shot
statistic compared with the figures for opposite-sex married couples
given the relatively much more unstable and different nature of
usually open and childless same-sex relationships.
A study of homosexual men under age 30 in Amsterdam, sponsored by the
Dutch AIDS project and published in AIDS 2003, found that single men
acquire 22 casual partners a year, men with a steady partner acquire
eight casual partners a year, and "steady partnerships" last an
average of 18 months. In a book published in 1996 and entitled
Virtually Normal, Andrew Sullivan argues that stable homosexual
couples have a "need for extramarital outlets".
Legal marriage in general is losing popularity in Canada. Married-
couple families accounted for 68.6 per cent of all census families in
2006, down from 70.5 per cent five years earlier. The proportion of
common-law-couple families rose from 13.8 per cent to 15.5 per cent.
Twenty years ago, common-law-couple families accounted for only 7.2
per cent of all census families.
In Quebec, where marriage as a stablising force has been declining
since the "Quiet Revolution" of the 1960's, common-law-couple families
increased 20.3 per cent. Close to one-quarter (23.4 per cent) of all
common-law-couples in Canada lived in Montr=E9al and Qu=E9bec City.
In Canada, the legal definition and regulation of common law marriage
fall under provincial jurisdiction. In 1999, after the court case M.
v=2E H., the Supreme Court of Canada decided that same-sex partners
would also be included in common-law relationships. In Ontario, a
couple must live together for three years to be considered to be in a
common-law marriage. In British Columbia and Nova Scotia a couple must
cohabit for two years in a "marriage-like" relationship.
Reflecting a growing trend around the world, one of the largest
changes was not in any form of marriage, but in the number of one-
person households. The number of single-person residences increased
11.8 per cent, more than twice as fast as the 5.3 per cent increase
for the total population in private households.
Perhaps most ominously for the future of Canada, the households with
the slowest growth between 2001 and 2006 were those comprised of
couples and children aged 24 years and under; these households edged
up only 0.4%.
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 05:55:16 AM |
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"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two entirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 08:39:47 AM |
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On Sep 13, 6:55 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
"J Young" <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two entirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
So the statistics, really, prove nothing.
Secondly there is all the points parsival brought up. Really your
argument can be put on its head: So if a lesser number of green eyed
heterosexual people got married than they are statistically
represented in the population, then it mean that marriage for green
eyed people is invalid? Or do you mean that the stats for the number
of green eyed people is therefore wrong?
When look at under the cold light of reason, your argument falls
apart.
And I'd like to add, that I always thought the 10% figure was an
inflated activist figure, I'm just too honest and logical to cherry
pick statistics to fit my gut feeling of around 4 to 5%. Of course
true statistic are nearly impossible due the politicly charged
atmosphere, and the fact homosexuality isn't clearly definable. Is a
woman who got drunk and made out with another woman and enjoyed it
homosexual? Is a man who had one same sex partner in college
homosexual. Is a bisexual who has three opposite sex partner for every
same sex partner homosexual?Now what if he was currently in a long
term relationship with a same sex partner? The line is a very broad
one indeed.
Hatter
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| User: "Jay Young" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 08:53:47 AM |
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Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:55 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
"J Young" <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two entirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 09:11:07 AM |
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"Jay Young" <jayyoung@church.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.21530afa382957ed989836@news.albasani.net...
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:55 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
"J Young" <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and
what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two
entirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that
gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
Is this the same Catholic Church that has implicitely condoned Priest/boy or
teen sex for several decades now? I'd have to say that their "moral
authority" is to be questioned. My guess is that the priests are leaving
the priesthood in droves because society if finally waking up and putting
these bastards in jail for molesting kids and teens and they no longer have
a safe sanctuary in which to operate.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 10:46:51 AM |
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Jay Young <jayyoung@church.net> writes:
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
Who gives a damn what proclamation some church issues when said proclamation
(if not a figment of Young's imagination) is shear nonsense?
The idea that men are becoming gay merely because they can legally get
married is utter nonsense: men generally won't marry someone they don't
want to have sex with.
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| User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 10:49:33 AM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87lkbar2j8.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
Jay Young <jayyoung@church.net> writes:
Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that
gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so
because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
Who gives a damn what proclamation some church issues when said
proclamation
(if not a figment of Young's imagination) is shear nonsense?
The idea that men are becoming gay merely because they can legally get
married is utter nonsense: men generally won't marry someone they don't
want to have sex with.
Not in an open society at least.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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28 Sep 2007 03:23:49 PM |
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On Sep 13, 11:46 am, No One <no...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
Jay Young <jayyo...@church.net> writes:
Hatter<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
Who gives a damn what proclamation some church issues when said proclamation
(if not a figment of Young's imagination) is shear nonsense?
The idea that men are becoming gay merely because they can legally get
married is utter nonsense: men generally won't marry someone they don't
want to have sex with.- Hide quoted text -
<groucho marx eyebrow waggle>
"However, they generally end up that way."
Hatter
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13 Sep 2007 09:21:28 AM |
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On 13 Sep, 15:53, Jay Young <jayyo...@church.net> wrote:
Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:55 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
"J Young" <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...http://www.=
lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represe=
nt
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and w=
hat
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two e=
ntirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that g=
ay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
But that trend has been going on for a long time.
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.- D=F6lj citera=
d text -
So it would be better for the women to be married to men who really
aren't attracted to them?
And the article you've posted makes the issue seem unimportant. There
are so few. You really don't quite know how to whine about this issue.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 09:24:56 AM |
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On Sep 13, 9:53 am, Jay Young <jayyo...@church.net> wrote:
Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:55 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:
"J Young" <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two entirely
different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes. Yes he can. Plus gay marriage hasn't been around that long 6,
0.6% may be low, but a better statistic would be to pompare it to all
marriages that started since 2001, you are certainly not going to get
10%, but it would be a much more accurate measure. Plus it wasn't
until 2005 that there was any real affmation that Canada wouldn't pull
the rug out from same sex marriage.
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
And if the church said black is white, that makes it so?
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.- Hide quoted text -
So closeted homosexuals are leaving the preisthood (and the requisite
repressing their instincts) and telling people they are moral
authority in hypocricy of their situation, just because a socially
acceptable alternative is being offered.
You would think the church would be glad of getting rid of preists
that were only in the preisthood for sexual reasons.
I know I would be relieved.
Hatter
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Sep 2007 10:28:48 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:24:56 -0700, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 9:53 am, Jay Young <jayyo...@church.net> wrote:
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
And if the church said black is white, that makes it so?
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to
be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
You would think the church would be glad of getting rid of preists
that were only in the preisthood for sexual reasons.
I know I would be relieved.
The Church is, and always has been, more concerned with quantity than
with quality.
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 01:39:39 PM |
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On Sep 13, 11:28 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:24:56 -0700, Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 9:53 am, Jay Young <jayyo...@church.net> wrote:
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
And if the church said black is white, that makes it so?
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to
be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
You would think the church would be glad of getting rid of preists
that were only in the preisthood for sexual reasons.
I know I would be relieved.
The Church is, and always has been, more concerned with quantity than
with quality.
Of course. The more people that you have, the bigger your armies when
"fighting the infidels and unbelievers". And the less intelligent and
less educated they are, the more likely they will believe the
propaganda and superstitions that you try to feed them.
Large masses of idiots make great cannon fodder.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Sep 2007 03:33:02 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:39:39 -0700, Mark Sebree
<sebree@infionline.net> wrote:
Large masses of idiots make great cannon fodder.
And a moron puppet gets the same number of pulls at the lever as an
informed person.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Does it ever amaze anyone else how little faith some heterosexuals have
in heterosexuality? It's supposed to be this god-given human instinct
that only the warped and perverted ever stray from; but, it seems, if we
once tell our straight children a message even as mild as "some people
are gay, and that's all right," that'll be enough to send lil' Suzy into
the arms of women forever. It's a wonder the race has survived this
long, really..."
- Charles M Seaton (21 Dec 1994)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada |
13 Sep 2007 10:26:21 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:53:47 -0400, Jay Young <jayyoung@church.net>
wrote:
The Church has issued a proclamation through Lifesite News stating that gay
marriage is the cause of why fewer hetereo couples are getting married.
And the logic behind that statement is?
As with the massive exodus of Clergy leaving the priesthood, men are
leaving their wives and taking up with other men and only doing so because
marriage between those of the same sex is now permissible.
Heterosexual men are taking up with other men? Homosexual men married
women?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the
one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Sep 2007 08:14:47 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:55:16 -0400, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two
entirely different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be
that statistically ignorant, can you?
I wouldn't put money on that if I were you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're
told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what
is right."
- Jerry Sturdivant
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13 Sep 2007 10:53:27 AM |
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Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two
entirely different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be
that statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes, he can. Not only that, he is.
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13 Sep 2007 06:08:45 PM |
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"IAAH" <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:1ZydnW4kDIBlwXTbnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com...
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two
entirely different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be that
statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes, he can. Not only that, he is.
It's another steaming pile from LieSiteSpews. Their target audience can't do
third grade math.
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13 Sep 2007 04:44:25 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:53:27 -0400, IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You do understand that saying that 10% of the population is gay and what
percentage of the population of all couples are gay couples are two
entirely different measurements, right? I mean, not even you can be
that statistically ignorant, can you?
Yes, he can. Not only that, he is.
It's impossible to underestimate his intelligence.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him, the
spinal cord would fully suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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14 Sep 2007 02:23:05 PM |
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In article <1189660602.094342.16200@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> J Young <younginsights@aol.com> writes:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You know, the famous Larson/Witham study of religious beliefs
among top-ranking scientists and mathematicians found that
of all disciplines, mathematicians were most likely to
believe in God.
Thus we see that having religious beliefs doesn't mean
you HAVE to be completely, knuckle-dragging innumerate.
So, what happened to J Young?
-- cary
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13 Sep 2007 09:08:41 PM |
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J Young wrote:
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
News flash: Heterosexual couples represent less than all heterosexuals *anywhere*.
(Guess that means that the heterosexual percentages are off.)
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And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Every man has three characters: That which he exhibits, that which he has, and that which
he thinks he has.
--Alphonse Karr
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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13 Sep 2007 12:44:07 AM |
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On 13 sep, 07:16, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
So why are you homophobes accusing gays who want to marry to "destroy
the santtity of marriage" if there are so few of them?
Second, if you're not gay (yeah, right...) why do you care so much
about them?
Thirdly, "Lifesite", really? Have I ever told you that if you want to
be taken seriously, you should use serious sources?
And finally, and?
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13 Sep 2007 08:07:08 AM |
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<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 sep, 07:16, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
So why are you homophobes accusing gays who want to marry to "destroy
the santtity of marriage" if there are so few of them?
Second, if you're not gay (yeah, right...) why do you care so much
about them?
Thirdly, "Lifesite", really? Have I ever told you that if you want to
be taken seriously, you should use serious sources?
And finally, and?
Lifesite is run by fanatical
Christian homosexual pedophile
clergy. All religion should be
banned permanently, especially
Christianity. The Catholic
Church is the world's biggest
pedophile ring.
Studies have repeatedly demonstrated
that most bible thumpers like Young
get sexually aroused by images of
prepubescent children.
There is no God. Religion is all
about power and influence, and getting
access to children for the purpose of
sex.
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13 Sep 2007 09:25:34 AM |
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On Sep 13, 1:16 am, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
Ah, I see.
So, only MARRIED people have a sexual orientation.
How are you going to classify all the single people in Canada? Are
they all asexual? Or does their preference to remain unmarried
suggest that they are all gay?
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13 Sep 2007 09:30:56 AM |
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ScottyFLL <1scott@lycos.com> wrote:
On Sep 13, 1:16 am, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
Ah, I see.
So, only MARRIED people have a sexual orientation.
That means that no one in the Bible had a sexual orientation because
marriage didn't become a tradition until the 13th century.
In fact, back in those days it wasn't allowed within the confines of the
church and anyone getting married had to do so on the steps outside.
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28 Sep 2007 10:53:33 PM |
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On Sep 13, 1:16=EF=BF=BDam, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
Legal marriage in general losing popularity, especially in Quebec;
single person residences increasing the most
By Hilary White
OTTAWA, September 12, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Newly released numbers
from Statistics Canada have shown that in the year since "gay
marriage" has been a legal reality in Canada, there has been a less
than overwhelming level of interest in mimicking natural marriage by
actual homosexuals.
Statistics Canada's "family portrait" of Canadians examines
developments in families, marital status, households and living
arrangements in Canada between 2001 and 2006, what StatsCan calls
"evolving" family structures. For the first time, the federal census
agency lists those in officially recognised "gay marriages".
45,300 homosexual pairings, either formally "married" or common-law,
were registered.
Of the total, 7,465, or 16.5 per cent, were "married". Despite claims
by the homosexual activist movement that homosexuals account for 10
per cent of the general population, by 2006, a year after same-sex
"marriage" was legalized, same-sex couples, either "married" or
cohabiting, represented only 0.6 per cent of all couples in Canada.
In the 1999 ruling in M. v. H., the Supreme Court of Canada decided
that same-sex partners would also be included in common law
relationships. After the imposition of legal same-sex "marriage" in
2005 the StatsCan survey shows the number of same-sex couples
officially registering as "married" grew 32.6 per cent since 2000.
The figures for same-sex relationships are also more a time snap-shot
statistic compared with the figures for opposite-sex married couples
given the relatively much more unstable and different nature of
usually open and childless same-sex relationships.
A study of homosexual men under age 30 in Amsterdam, sponsored by the
Dutch AIDS project and published in AIDS 2003, found that single men
acquire 22 casual partners a year, men with a steady partner acquire
eight casual partners a year, and "steady partnerships" last an
average of 18 months. In a book published in 1996 and entitled
Virtually Normal, Andrew Sullivan argues that stable homosexual
couples have a "need for extramarital outlets".
Legal marriage in general is losing popularity in Canada. Married-
couple families accounted for 68.6 per cent of all census families in
2006, down from 70.5 per cent five years earlier. The proportion of
common-law-couple families rose from 13.8 per cent to 15.5 per cent.
Twenty years ago, common-law-couple families accounted for only 7.2
per cent of all census families.
In Quebec, where marriage as a stablising force has been declining
since the "Quiet Revolution" of the 1960's, common-law-couple families
increased 20.3 per cent. Close to one-quarter (23.4 per cent) of all
common-law-couples in Canada lived in Montr=E9al and Qu=E9bec City.
In Canada, the legal definition and regulation of common law marriage
fall under provincial jurisdiction. In 1999, after the court case M.
v. H., the Supreme Court of Canada decided that same-sex partners
would also be included in common-law relationships. In Ontario, a
couple must live together for three years to be considered to be in a
common-law marriage. In British Columbia and Nova Scotia a couple must
cohabit for two years in a "marriage-like" relationship.
Reflecting a growing trend around the world, one of the largest
changes was not in any form of marriage, but in the number of one-
person households. The number of single-person residences increased
11.8 per cent, more than twice as fast as the 5.3 per cent increase
for the total population in private households.
Perhaps most ominously for the future of Canada, the households with
the slowest growth between 2001 and 2006 were those comprised of
couples and children aged 24 years and under; these households edged
up only 0.4%.
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Who cares what the stats are? If it was 90% gays would that make it
right? Or would it just mean that our species is decomposing and
heading in the wrong direction?
The mind manacled atheists at our forum say100% of the atheists here
hate me...does that make hate right?
It's been said that 98% of the people in the world either believe in a
God or an afterlife or soul...does that make it true if 98% of the
people think so?
Don't worry what the numbers are when it comes to truth. Truth is not
truth because of an argumentum ad populum proposal.
..=2E..my discussion of this topic from an earlier post.
Provoker writes:
Hello V:
What do you mean when you write: "I am truth based"?
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Hi Provoker
Truth based?
Good question.
The contemplative life finds it's joy in discovering truth.
Now all we have to do is find out 'what truth is' to experience such
joy?
Where does truth reside so I can pay it a visit?
Truth resides within us and is available; to us all if we just back
down on the ego.
As my atheist friend Neil tells me, we all have an ego.
And as I've told Neil before, the prominence of that ego determines if
we are truth based or ego based.
Atheists are always hard to pin down when the discussion cannot be
perfected in terms that will satisfy the them.
One time I posted:
"Whenever we take it upon ourselves to beat down others, we are headed
in a direction of destroying peace. We destroy our own peace as well
as others peace. It takes no energy from me to pass something by and
leave it alone in peace. But it takes my energy as well as my peace to
pick something up to destroy it."
After I posted this paragraph, an atheist piped to call me a liar and
accuse me of hypocrisy, telling me that I destroy a potato when I pick
it up to eat it.
Natural law dictates I must eat, but there is no law that says I must
spew venom from my mouth to destroy others.
If atheists can get over fishing for red herrings and get onto bigger
fish to fry they will see a world of difference in their peace
practice.
The destruction of inner peace by destroying potatoes comes about when
I destroy my neighbors crop field of potatoes by poisoning them to
bankrupt him in order to take over his farmland...it does not come
about by eating a potato.
The God of Nature gives me potatoes to eat, the God of inner Peace
tells me to not eat potatoes in excess or to destroy others if I wish
to be at peace. I cannot see either God, I know not how they work, I
just know they are.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D342.0
Another time I was discussing virtue and developing a good heart. The
atheists told me that the heart is only a blood pump...and they are
right...so let's say that our virtue emanates from the fabric of our
very being...but I guess the atheists will argue we are not made of
fabric either!
I learn from all whether atheists or theists.
The theist reminds me to look for God in all things and to practice
charity and peace promotion.
The atheists remind me to come back to earth once in a while and not
get caught in speculation too much.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D543.0
Do I hate atheists?
No, I think they are pretty much right with their evaluation of the
monotheists...if one leaves hate out of the equation.
I just write about atheists a lot since I've been kicked out and
banned from the Christian and Buddhist forums...so that is where I
ended up...with the atheists.
Ses:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D343.0
But being an agnostic, I also have an open mind to God or a higher
spiritual power.
Atheists seem to be like animals caught in trap, squirming and
writhing in every direction, looking, grasping outside of themselves
for freedom from this trap to find a modicum of inner peace.
But the trap is an 'inner one' and all your efforts at hatred and
snapping at others are futile.
Always remember, passions are rooted in the self and the self is
always is in flux which accounts for the rise and fall of these
passions.
Whereas, truth is stable - for the truth is that which does not
change.
Seek truth mind manacled atheist and just do not pay it lip service
Certain Buddhists and Taoists I run into, especially the debaters,
great philosophers and sensationalists, like to promote the idea of
there is 'no true or false'. or 'no right and wrong' to judge in life.
Taoist's believe that if we do not favor right or wrong, good or bad,
beauty or ugliness we will not become attached to such outcomes. They
also believe that the cosmic forces do not favor any of these things
but treat all with equanimity, so they wish to mimic the cosmos to be
in unity with it.
While this extreme view of "no right or wrong" holds some truth, it
also needs to be balanced with the idea of the conventual view of
right and wrong to find a balanced "middle path" view of right and
wrong if we wish to live within society.
So that is how I approach your question by answering as imperfectly
and perfectly as I can.
Sometime the truth is relative, sometimes it is a best fit scenario.
But generally we can say the truth is that which does not change.
Huxley may have said it best:
"The highest object that human beings can set before themselves is not
the pursuit of any such chimera as the annihilation of the unknown: it
is simply the unwearied endeavor to remove its boundaries a little
further from our little sphere of action."
And if you are not a fan of Huxley, I will offer you some Aristotle:
"It is the mark of an educated mind to rest satisfied with the degree
of precision which the nature of the subject admits and not to seek
exactness where only an approximation is possible."
This in itself is a good indicator of whether you are 'truth based' or
'ego based' Provoker. For why would you favor one philosopher over
another?
Why not favor truth?
I argue with no one Provoker.
If I have the truth, I keep it and use it and share it.
If you do not want it that is OK, I make no demands you adopt it.
If I am wrong and you have the truth I adopt it readily and now I have
the truth as well.
Wherever the truth is - that is where I go.
This is not so just because people have the cleverest argument to
prove such things. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
If it was otherwise, the spin doctors would be the kings and queen of
inner peace.
What is rhetoric based on?
Truth?
No...rhetoric is based on making the lie 'appear' as if it was truth.
Rhetoric is based on ego.
The truth can be tested Provoker.
The rhetoricians lies does not hold up to testing, they only holds up
to lip service.
The truth can only be found from a choice divorced from need
Provoker...we divorce the need to massage our ego and are honest with
ourselves and others
As atheists and theists, we test truth via practical application of a
life that yields us and others inner peace.
Contrast this to faith based...hate based...instinct based...
Again all these apply to us.
Yes, even the atheist 'have faith' that their hatred wilt provide them
peace.
But before one can test, one must be open to finding the truth.
Something the mind manacled, dogmatic atheist cannot do as their 'ego
based instincts' block them from ever finding a new way to live.
Neither can the delusional faith based theist for that matter. But at
least the theist pays attention to their religions prepackaged morals.
As a first step for seeking truth, we look honesty at what is said and
not at who says what.
See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/327805fdd9caec=
99/c99a0e01b4947eca?hl=3Den#c99a0e01b4947eca
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/125b41aa8fd2b8=
7b/cf400bdf88ba1701?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dconundrum&rnum=3D7&hl=3Den#cf400bdf88ba17=
01
If one sticks to: true, false or don't know in one's replies they can
avoid this trap by arguing facts and not personalities.
There is no such thing as 'opinionated' - 'provocative'
'controversial' subjects.
These are only subjective and prejudicial states of mind.
How do we know we are truth based Provoker?
When someone tells us the truth what do we do?
Do we thank them for the truth or do we hate them for the truth?
This is the acid test for determining truth based wisdom
Provoker...gratitude or hatred.
When we invest excessive time and energies in acquiring or building
attachments these attachments become veritable extensions of our being
and come to define us for ourselves as well as define who we are for
others.
When these attachments take on this role we become susceptible to pain
via these extensions. If the person, place or thing we are attached to
gets rebuked it is a personal rebuke on us, if they get damaged or
defaced so goes the defacement and damage to our very being.
It is hard to become full detached to ideas, for if we did we would be
like a feather floating wherever the wind blew us and would pick up
any old idea with no firm grounding of what we perceive as right or
wrong.
But, we can practice being open minded and look at ideas without
prejudice that we immediately hit ideas with. Learn to judge other
less. We especially do this with everyone we meet...they are better or
lesser than me type of thinking.
Fear based reasons for doing something, as theist mostly do, are not
authentic and natural actions.
The persons actions are based on negative consequences otherwise they
would not do them.
My actions are based on inner peace and if I stray - there goes my
peace - it is my choice.
Put your inner peace foremost and you will have your answer Provoker.
When you align real and authentic actions with those that promote
inner peace you are on the road to enlightenment.
Also See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D470.0
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D532.0
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D4.0
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D504.0
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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28 Sep 2007 11:04:07 PM |
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V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
It's been said that 98% of the people in the world either believe in a
God or an afterlife or soul...does that make it true if 98% of the
people think so?
Don't worry what the numbers are when it comes to truth. Truth is not
truth because of an argumentum ad populum proposal.
Most who claim that don't attend Church on Sunday.
But, to transliterate your second sentence about "Truth is not
truth because of an argumentum ad populum proposal."
I give you a similar saying:
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof.
And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
Eh?
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13 Sep 2007 10:24:15 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:16:42 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You don't understand the difference between "10% of all humans are
gay" and "0.6% of all Canadian couples are gay"?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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13 Sep 2007 10:31:02 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:16:42 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
You don't understand the difference between "10% of all humans are
gay" and "0.6% of all Canadian couples are gay"?
He's proven again that being an ignoramus is a moral imperative when you're
a superstitious religious nut case who believes in sky spirits, miracles
and demons.
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13 Sep 2007 08:31:10 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:16:42 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/sep/07091201.html
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
Why would you assume the same proportion of gay people are paired
off?
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13 Sep 2007 08:38:19 PM |
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On Sep 13, 9:31 pm, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
Why would you assume the same proportion of gay people are paired
off?
Exactly. Good point. Not only do all those who are gay not marry, many
don't even admit they're gay. Homophobes who sneer at the 10% figure
like to forget that a good many gays are in the closet. Some in fact
pretend to be conservative "family values" homophobes themselves: Bob
Allen, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, J. Edgar Hoover......
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Sep 2007 08:14:12 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:16:42 -0700, J Young wrote:
So Much for 10% Gay: New Statistics Show Homosexual Couples Represent
only 0.6% of All Couples in Canada
So a gay person can't be single? Does that also apply to straights?
Legal marriage in general losing popularity, especially in Quebec;
single person residences increasing the most
So, fewer people in general are getting married, therefore there are
fewer gay people.
What?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're
told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what
is right."
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