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"Craig Chilton" |
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03 Dec 2005 10:37:47 AM |
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Straights can change if they want. |
Straights can change if they want.
But they don't want to change, any more than gays do.
Expecting anyone to change his/her sexual orientation
would be as bone-stupid as it would be to expect a left-handed
person to become a right-hander, or vice-versa.
Most gays know that. So do most straights.
And then... there are those dumber-than-dead-rock RRR cultists.
Take the average IQ of all RRR cult lemmings, and I'd be
willing to bet that it's between 70 and 85, And they certainly keep
right on providing all the evidence that we need in order to think so.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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03 Dec 2005 10:40:52 PM |
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In News klukf.62$FX1.20566@news.uswest.net,, Richard Dawkins at
Dawkins@Hell.com, typed this:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:ekm4p1lg9521bph5anhpf5aj60achqgb1a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:18:17 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
John P. Boatwright [<name@For-Satan.net>] wrote:
...NOTHING but his usual moronic LIES.
<Lying swill flushed. *My* response to Dawkins follows> ---
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
Why would we want to do the wrong thing by promoting an
anti-propagation agenda? The Earth would go dark in 100 years
if everyone were [gay].
And the problem with that would be? 100 years from now, almost
no one alive today would give a flying rat's *****.
But in reality, there's nothing "anti-propagation" about being
gay. Really?
Ok then.... if everyone were gay what would happen to
civilization?
Tell me -- WHY did you OMIT the *rest* of the thought I was
expressing, in which I said THIS? ---
Answer the question.
If everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
Pretty much the same as what is happening to it now. Bush would just have
to fight his wars with gay men, invitro fertilization would be free, and gay
men and gay women who desire children could still do it the old fashioned
way if they choose to. However, your question is ridiculous.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Jenn" |
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03 Dec 2005 11:49:03 PM |
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In article <klukf.62$FX1.20566@news.uswest.net>,
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:ekm4p1lg9521bph5anhpf5aj60achqgb1a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:18:17 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
John P. Boatwright [<name@For-Satan.net>] wrote:
...NOTHING but his usual moronic LIES.
<Lying swill flushed. *My* response to Dawkins follows> ---
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
Why would we want to do the wrong thing by promoting an
anti-propagation agenda? The Earth would go dark in 100 years
if everyone were [gay].
And the problem with that would be? 100 years from now, almost
no one alive today would give a flying rat's *****.
But in reality, there's nothing "anti-propagation" about being gay.
Really?
Ok then.... if everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
Tell me -- WHY did you OMIT the *rest* of the thought I was
expressing, in which I said THIS? ---
Answer the question.
If everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
This is the silliest of questions. Some people are gay. A part of the
population will always be gay. The vast majority of the population will
always be hetero.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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03 Dec 2005 10:42:39 PM |
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In article <klukf.62$FX1.20566@news.uswest.net>, Richard Dawkins
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:ekm4p1lg9521bph5anhpf5aj60achqgb1a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:18:17 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
John P. Boatwright [<name@For-Satan.net>] wrote:
...NOTHING but his usual moronic LIES.
<Lying swill flushed. *My* response to Dawkins follows> ---
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
Why would we want to do the wrong thing by promoting an
anti-propagation agenda? The Earth would go dark in 100 years
if everyone were [gay].
And the problem with that would be? 100 years from now, almost
no one alive today would give a flying rat's *****.
But in reality, there's nothing "anti-propagation" about being gay.
Really?
Ok then.... if everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
Tell me -- WHY did you OMIT the *rest* of the thought I was
expressing, in which I said THIS? ---
Answer the question.
If everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
We would all be in really good physical condition.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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03 Dec 2005 11:27:30 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 21:34:23 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
John P. Boatwright [<name@For-Satan.net>] wrote:
...NOTHING but his usual moronic LIES.
<Lying swill flushed. *My* response to Dawkins follows> ---
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0700,
Richard Dawkins <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
Why would we want to do the wrong thing by promoting an
anti-propagation agenda? The Earth would go dark in 100 years
if everyone were [gay].
And the problem with that would be? 100 years from now, almost
no one alive today would give a flying rat's *****.
But in reality, there's nothing "anti-propagation" about being gay.
Really?
Ok then.... if everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
Tell me -- WHY did you OMIT the *rest* of the thought I was
expressing, in which I said THIS? ---
Around a million gay singles and couples (despite the prevailing
idiocy keeping most American ones outside of Massachusetts from
being able to marry their same-sex partners) HAVE and are raising
kids. There are *many* legal ways to have children beyond having
a heterosexual sex partner, and as soon as human cloning becomes
commonplace, as it surely WILL someday, that will simply ADD to
the list of ways.
Oh. Yeah. So that you could be DISHONEST, right?
Tough luck, fool. GOTCHA!!!! (Again. As usual.)
Thanks for this further proof of my statement in my sig ---
Answer the question. If everyone were gay what would happen
to civilization?
Fine. Now that we've dealt with your dishonesty, your trollish-
ness, and your lack of credibility.
Just for the record -- probably not much, except that perhaps the
overpopulation problem would be solved because it would grow at
a slower rate. But it would continue, because a significantly large
percentage of gays choose to raise kids, and there are MANY ways,
as I pointed out above, to accomplish that other than opposite-sex
intercourse.
Too bad you were too ignorant to realize the first time that the
material you OMITTED rendered you question pointless and moot.
Or else you're nothing but a troll.
Which ALSO has being ignorant as a prerequisite.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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04 Dec 2005 08:53:27 AM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
Ok then....if everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
The arts would experience a resurgence. "Birdhouse suburbia" would made
illegal. Home Ec. classes would feature "real" cooking. Oh, and you'd be
able to slap your waiter if he really deserved it.
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "K6" |
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03 Dec 2005 08:30:08 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
But in reality, there's nothing "anti-propagation" about being gay.
Really?
Ok then....if everyone were gay what would happen to civilization?
Never read a line about artificial insemination ? Heterosexuality is
not indispensible to the continuation of the human specie,though it
will likely remain its main reproductive
method for a while.
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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03 Dec 2005 09:05:46 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:59:34 GMT,
John P. Boatwright [<name@For-Satan.net>] wrote:
...NOTHING but his usual moronic LIES.
You're following the typical progression there Craig:
Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation
of the world are clearly seen, being understood by
the things that are made, even his eternal power
and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified
him not as God, neither were thankful; but became
vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart
was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into
an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds,
and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
and served the creature more than the Creator, who
is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into
that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use
of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is unseemly, and
receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind,
to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of
envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without
natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which
commit such things are worthy of death, not only
do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Typical.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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03 Dec 2005 09:56:43 PM |
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In article <43925B56.6CB7@For-God.net>, John P. Boatwright
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
What makes you think that?
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| User: "John P. Boatwright" |
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04 Dec 2005 05:25:06 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <43925B56.6CB7@For-God.net>, John P. Boatwright
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
What makes you think that?
God's words.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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04 Dec 2005 10:53:45 AM |
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In article <4392D05F.34F7@For-God.net>, John P. Boatwright
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <43925B56.6CB7@For-God.net>, John P. Boatwright
<name@For-God.net> wrote:
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
What makes you think that?
God's words.
What makes you think they are "Gods words."
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
What makes you think that?
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03 Dec 2005 07:58:43 PM |
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=== COWARDLY bullcrap regarding archiving flushed.
Anyone responding to my posts can assume that they
will ALWAYS be archived. I have NOTHING to hide,
and I stand behind ALL of my up to 15,000 posts 100% ===
=== FULL range of relevant cross-postings RESTORED ===
"The Alien" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
But they don't want to change, any more than gays do.
Expecting anyone to change his/her sexual orientation
would be as bone-stupid as it would be to expect a left-handed
person to become a right-hander, or vice-versa.
Most gays know that. So do most straights.
And then... there are those dumber-than-dead-rock RRR cultists.
Take the average IQ of all RRR cult lemmings, and I'd be
willing to bet that it's between 70 and 85, And they certainly keep
right on providing all the evidence that we need in order to think so.
To answer this cross posted troll, ...
Troll posts are bullcrap that usually contain NO relevant facts,
and NON-troll posts almost always contain irrefutable facts, or
are based on such facts and their associated probabilities... as
mine are. TRY to learn the OBVIOUS difference, despite the fact
that doing such appears to be a major strain on the mentalities of
most who are gullible enough to be RRR Cult lemmings.
...what it boils down to is this:
It does not matter what we think, the question to ask is what
does the Bible say? Lev. 18:22...
...is irrelevant, no matter WHAT it says. Everything in leviticus
applied to a long-EXTINCT dispensation not remotely associated
with the current one.
...and 1 Cor. 6:8 & 9 say it very plainly.
It says:
8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and
you do this to your brothers.
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...
But it CONTINUES ON to say THIS:
10 ...nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of
God.
And THAT pretty much would put the screws to the
ENTIRE human race. Interesting that you omitted that!
Fortunately for Christian believers (and possibly for all
who are not, via some unknown process of grace that the
Bible doesn't reveal), Jesus died so that we could live.
1 Cor. 6:18 says to flee from sexual immorality, not just
Homosexual ... but all sexual immorality and it says why.
In the opinion of Paul of Tarsus, who clearly was a
devoted and usually-accurate apostle... but who also may
very well have been one of the world's earliest PRUDES
to go on record as such. (Note that the Big Ten is not
at all condemnatory of sex, except when a married person
gets it on with someone other than his/her spouse.)
But since this is most likely a troll, ...
Wrong (as I pointed out above). But then, that seems to
be a habit with you
...I'm sure I'll be labled a Bigot as well.
Only if you PROVE yourself to be one. In this post,
you've accomplished nothing but the earning of "ignorant"
as an accurate descriptor.
Good! I'm glad to be punished for doing something that
is right and just! For standing up to a standard greater than
my own.
I do that all the time. In REALITY. By actively opposing
the loathsome agendas of the RRR Cult, which are designed
to accomplish NOTHING worthwhile, and in the process
would do nothing but impose immense hardship, for no good
purpose, upon tens of millions of people.
Hopefully, you're doing more with *your* life than making
a complete fool of yourself, as you did in this post.
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04 Dec 2005 09:39:06 AM |
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-No-archive: yes On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:58:43 GMT, Craig Chilton
<xanadu222_@mchsi.com> used recycled pixels to say:
=== COWARDLY bullcrap regarding archiving flushed.
Anyone responding to my posts can assume that they
will ALWAYS be archived. I have NOTHING to hide,
and I stand behind ALL of my up to 15,000 posts 100% ===
=== FULL range of relevant cross-postings RESTORED ===
"The Alien" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
But they don't want to change, any more than gays do.
Expecting anyone to change his/her sexual orientation
would be as bone-stupid as it would be to expect a left-handed
person to become a right-hander, or vice-versa.
Most gays know that. So do most straights.
And then... there are those dumber-than-dead-rock RRR cultists.
Take the average IQ of all RRR cult lemmings, and I'd be
willing to bet that it's between 70 and 85, And they certainly keep
right on providing all the evidence that we need in order to think so.
To answer this cross posted troll, ...
Troll posts are bullcrap that usually contain NO relevant facts,
and NON-troll posts almost always contain irrefutable facts, or
are based on such facts and their associated probabilities... as
mine are. TRY to learn the OBVIOUS difference, despite the fact
that doing such appears to be a major strain on the mentalities of
most who are gullible enough to be RRR Cult lemmings.
...what it boils down to is this:
It does not matter what we think, the question to ask is what
does the Bible say? Lev. 18:22...
...is irrelevant, no matter WHAT it says. Everything in leviticus
applied to a long-EXTINCT dispensation not remotely associated
with the current one.
...and 1 Cor. 6:8 & 9 say it very plainly.
It says:
8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and
you do this to your brothers.
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...
But it CONTINUES ON to say THIS:
10 ...nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of
God.
And THAT pretty much would put the screws to the
ENTIRE human race. Interesting that you omitted that!
Fortunately for Christian believers (and possibly for all
who are not, via some unknown process of grace that the
Bible doesn't reveal), Jesus died so that we could live.
1 Cor. 6:18 says to flee from sexual immorality, not just
Homosexual ... but all sexual immorality and it says why.
In the opinion of Paul of Tarsus, who clearly was a
devoted and usually-accurate apostle... but who also may
very well have been one of the world's earliest PRUDES
to go on record as such. (Note that the Big Ten is not
at all condemnatory of sex, except when a married person
gets it on with someone other than his/her spouse.)
But since this is most likely a troll, ...
Wrong (as I pointed out above). But then, that seems to
be a habit with you
...I'm sure I'll be labled a Bigot as well.
Only if you PROVE yourself to be one. In this post,
you've accomplished nothing but the earning of "ignorant"
as an accurate descriptor.
Good! I'm glad to be punished for doing something that
is right and just! For standing up to a standard greater than
my own.
I do that all the time. In REALITY. By actively opposing
the loathsome agendas of the RRR Cult, which are designed
to accomplish NOTHING worthwhile, and in the process
would do nothing but impose immense hardship, for no good
purpose, upon tens of millions of people.
Hopefully, you're doing more with *your* life than making
a complete fool of yourself, as you did in this post.
....so what is the *REAL* reason for your post, why the projected
hostility? What happened to make you so stern?
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mailto:postmaster@127.0.0.1
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04 Dec 2005 10:31:30 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 10:39:06 -0500,
The Alien wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
=== COWARDLY bullcrap regarding archiving flushed.
Anyone responding to my posts can assume that they
will ALWAYS be archived. I have NOTHING to hide,
and I stand behind ALL of my up to 15,000 posts 100% ===
"The Alien" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Straights can change if they want.
But they don't want to change, any more than gays do.
Expecting anyone to change his/her sexual orientation
would be as bone-stupid as it would be to expect a left-handed
person to become a right-hander, or vice-versa.
Most gays know that. So do most straights.
And then... there are those dumber-than-dead-rock RRR cultists.
Take the average IQ of all RRR cult lemmings, and I'd be
willing to bet that it's between 70 and 85, And they certainly keep
right on providing all the evidence that we need in order to think so.
To answer this cross posted troll, ...
Troll posts are bullcrap that usually contain NO relevant facts,
and NON-troll posts almost always contain irrefutable facts, or
are based on such facts and their associated probabilities... as
mine are. TRY to learn the OBVIOUS difference, despite the fact
that doing such appears to be a major strain on the mentalities of
most who are gullible enough to be RRR Cult lemmings.
...what it boils down to is this:
It does not matter what we think, the question to ask is what
does the Bible say? Lev. 18:22...
...is irrelevant, no matter WHAT it says. Everything in leviticus
applied to a long-EXTINCT dispensation not remotely associated
with the current one.
...and 1 Cor. 6:8 & 9 say it very plainly.
It says:
8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and
you do this to your brothers.
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the
sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male
prostitutes nor homosexual offenders...
But it CONTINUES ON to say THIS:
10 ...nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of
God.
And THAT pretty much would put the screws to the
ENTIRE human race. Interesting that you omitted that!
Fortunately for Christian believers (and possibly for all
who are not, via some unknown process of grace that the
Bible doesn't reveal), Jesus died so that we could live.
1 Cor. 6:18 says to flee from sexual immorality, not just
Homosexual ... but all sexual immorality and it says why.
In the opinion of Paul of Tarsus, who clearly was a
devoted and usually-accurate apostle... but who also may
very well have been one of the world's earliest PRUDES
to go on record as such. (Note that the Big Ten is not
at all condemnatory of sex, except when a married person
gets it on with someone other than his/her spouse.)
But since this is most likely a troll, ...
Wrong (as I pointed out above). But then, that seems to
be a habit with you
...I'm sure I'll be labled a Bigot as well.
Only if you PROVE yourself to be one. In this post,
you've accomplished nothing but the earning of "ignorant"
as an accurate descriptor.
Good! I'm glad to be punished for doing something that
is right and just! For standing up to a standard greater than
my own.
I do that all the time. In REALITY. By actively opposing
the loathsome agendas of the RRR Cult, which are designed
to accomplish NOTHING worthwhile, and in the process
would do nothing but impose immense hardship, for no good
purpose, upon tens of millions of people.
Hopefully, you're doing more with *your* life than making
a complete fool of yourself, as you did in this post.
...so what is the *REAL* reason for your post, why the projected
hostility? What happened to make you so stern?
Calling me a "troll" at the outset didn't do you a whole lot of good.
Beyond that, I simply provided an honest response, which included
my pointing out your convenient OMISSION of the next verse of a
Biblical passage that puts **everyone** in the same boat as the
people you were targeting.
Dishonesty -- particularly when it's directed against the personal
liberties of others, isn't appreciated by any sensible egalitarian,
myself included.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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03 Dec 2005 11:09:11 AM |
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If we gays are to behave as realistic political actors on the world
stage,we cannot rest content with mere defectors of the heterosexual
lifestyle.Who has witdrawn his/her adhesion to something,sexual
orientation or other,will do so again on the first occasion and given
the opportunity or the proper impulse.No side trusts deserters or
converts.We gays
could eventually use deserters from the heterosexual side,but never
ever consider them as members of our circle,of our culture,of our
political body,or of our people.
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
03 Dec 2005 12:53:03 PM |
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"K6" <kingsix@abacom.com> wrote in message
news:1133629751.455495.39230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If we gays are to behave as realistic political actors on the world
stage,we cannot rest content with mere defectors of the heterosexual
lifestyle.Who has witdrawn his/her adhesion to something,sexual
orientation or other,will do so again on the first occasion and given
the opportunity or the proper impulse.No side trusts deserters or
converts.We gays
could eventually use deserters from the heterosexual side,but never
ever consider them as members of our circle,of our culture,of our
political body,or of our people.
troll
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
03 Dec 2005 01:45:15 PM |
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On 3 Dec 2005 09:09:11 -0800,
"K6" <kingsix@abacom.com> wrote:
If we gays are to behave as realistic political actors on the world
stage,we cannot rest content with mere defectors of the heterosexual
lifestyle.Who has witdrawn his/her adhesion to something,sexual
orientation or other,will do so again on the first occasion and given
the opportunity or the proper impulse.No side trusts deserters or
converts.We gays could eventually use deserters from the hetero-
sexual side, but never ever consider them as members of our circle,
of our culture,of our political body,or of our people.
Works for me. Just as long as you're open-minded enough
to remember that we straight ALLIES of you, in your quest for
across-the-board EQUAL rights, and the end of discrimination
forever, outnumber you who are gay, yourselves, by 9-to-1.
So keep us on your side, just as the blacks welcomed their
alliance with we who were their *Caucasian* egalitarian friends
back during the dark days we faced together during Civil Rights
Movement I.
And even if you don't appreciate our assistance, we'll stand
alongside you despite that. Because that's what we are: fair-
minded and sensible egalitarians who loathe all forms of bigotry
and discriminatory ignorance and mindlessness.
And... we are no more inclined to become bigots than you
are inclined to become "straights."
BTW -- your sexual orientation doesn't DEFINE you any
more than it does we who are straight. Or any more than
handedness and eye color do.
ALL of those aspects are TRIVIALITES, and should never
under any circumstances have been turned into "issues," It
was wrong when bigots **artificially and arbitrarily** forced the
TRIVIALITY of skin color to be an "issue." And it is JUST as
wrong when the RRR cultists of today try to beat the drum of
bigotry against people over the NON-issue of being gay... even
to the point of treating them as though they were second-class
citizens and deserving of having ANY rights denied to them
that the *bigots* have.
It's hard to even **comprehend** just HOW any person
could possibly be bone-ignorant, stupid, and hateful enough
to WHINE about people and try to make them downtrodden
over something as utterly trivial and unimportant as they way
someone enjoys sex... in PRIVATE.
With the exception of porn stars and a few other exhibitionist
types, EVERYONE has their sex **in private**. Thus making it
NO issue at all, and NO one else's business. That's the ONLY
difference between gays and straights, and it is a NON-issue.
Not even on the table of any person having a normally-func-
tioning brain.
It's not something that most INTELLIGENT people would
want any part of, whatsoever. I'm betting that the average
IQ of RRR Cult lemmings is somewhere between 70 and 85.
(100 is the norm, for any sizable random population.) The
RRR Cult's leaders (yes, it is an oligarchy) TARGET people
who had the misfortune to be born with limited mental capa-
bilities, with some of the most INANE and control-freak-appeal-
ing propaganda imaginable. Lie upon lie upon hate-ridden
lie. Lies SO abjectly absurd that almost no one of average or
better IQ would fall for such sociopathic swill.
That makes the RRR Cults leaders psycho-criminals.
And if there's no law against that yet, there **should** be.
For victimizing and polluting the minds of the mentally-gullible
with hate and disinformation/lies.
And you know what's just funnier than hell?
MILLIONS of HETEROsexuals ("straights") engage in
the very SAME sex acts with their partners that the gays do!
Making the RRR cultists not only doltish and hateful. But
also some of the world's worst and most ludicrous hypocrites.
America: It is *time* to openly and vigorously REJECT
the RRR Cult and its vicious agendas against human & civil
rights, and individual liberties. The timing for that is *perfect*,
now that everyone has become so AWARE that the party
that they infested and polluted the Republican Party) is truly
the Culture of Corruption.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "K6" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
03 Dec 2005 06:55:43 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
BTW -- your sexual orientation doesn't DEFINE you any
more than it does we who are straight. Or any more than
handedness and eye color do.
Once it has become an object of conflict or of tensions,the difference
in sexual orientation is political.All the more that it has an impact
on reproduction and demography.And demography is also political.
The conflict wasn`t started by us gays,and at less than 1 against 9 in
population ratio could not have been.Fairness commands however not to
ascribe our problems to the heterosexual population in its entirety.Our
difficulties rather originate in certain unstable sectors of the
heterosexual population.
The ideal setting for us gays would be one where we would be dealing
with the stable and happy elements of the heterosexual society who mean
no harm to us.We can perfectly deal with heterosexuals as
allies,provided that they are in power an in control of the unstable
elements of their own society.If,for example,they are secularists and
allow no religion or church to interfere in social and political
matters,which include gay issues.
If they have failed to control religionnists for instance,and thus
aren`t in power,the matter of a conflict initiated by such
religionnists and against us gays is no longer in the hands of the
good,decent and progressive elements of the heterosexual society.Its
outcome depend solely upon our not being defeated.And as long as we
gays exist,we aren`t defeated yet.We aren`t after all asked to do more
than that in order to win.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
03 Dec 2005 08:11:39 PM |
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K6 wrote:
Once it has become an object of conflict or of tensions,the difference
in sexual orientation is political.
So Gerrymander the perfect state...
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "K6" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
03 Dec 2005 08:38:07 PM |
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We gays could not have an independent state of ours at the moment.But
while denying being a state,we could still act in certain respects as
if we were one.
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
06 Dec 2005 09:17:46 AM |
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On 3 Dec 2005 18:38:07 -0800, "K6" <kingsix@abacom.com>
spake thusly:
We gays could not have an independent state of ours at the moment.But
while denying being a state,we could still act in certain respects as
if we were one.
Oh goody, a separatist! Yea, your arguments should
be credible!
BAWAHAHAHAHA!!!
But hey, I'm all for happy people having a place to be
happy. Now homosexuals, that's another story, although
I wouldn't mind having my environment homosexual free.
But of course, then I'd have to travel to preach the
Gospel to them and they need it very badly!
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Cleopatra" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 10:13:54 AM |
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X-No-archive: yes
K6 wrote:
We gays could not have an independent state of ours at the moment.But
while denying being a state,we could still act in certain respects as
if we were one.
Well, we'd be more than happy to give you one! We would love to set
aside some island in the Pacific and give you all free passage to your
new state and gay republic. Perhaps somewhere in the Enewetak Atoll at
ground zero would be a great choice. We would, of course, have to do a
bit more "testing" before we sent you there. Better yet, AFTER we sent
you there.
Cleopatra
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 10:30:10 AM |
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"Cleopatra" <Let_Em_Eat_Indictments@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133799234.488698.290030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
X-No-archive: yes
K6 wrote:
We gays could not have an independent state of ours at the moment.But
while denying being a state,we could still act in certain respects as
if we were one.
Well, we'd be more than happy to give you one! We would love to set
aside some island in the Pacific and give you all free passage to your
new state and gay republic. Perhaps somewhere in the Enewetak Atoll at
ground zero would be a great choice. We would, of course, have to do a
bit more "testing" before we sent you there. Better yet, AFTER we sent
you there.
Cleopatra
but....but Cleopatra if we gave them an island then they could not
propagate and they would die off.
That's discriminating against them.
We couldn't have that.
After all homosexuality is normal.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 02:29:19 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:30:10 -0700, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
| "Cleopatra" <Let_Em_Eat_Indictments@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:1133799234.488698.290030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| > X-No-archive: yes
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| > K6 wrote:
| >> We gays could not have an independent state of ours at the moment.But
| >> while denying being a state,we could still act in certain respects as
| >> if we were one.
| >
| > Well, we'd be more than happy to give you one! We would love to set
| > aside some island in the Pacific and give you all free passage to your
| > new state and gay republic. Perhaps somewhere in the Enewetak Atoll at
| > ground zero would be a great choice. We would, of course, have to do a
| > bit more "testing" before we sent you there. Better yet, AFTER we sent
| > you there.
| >
| > Cleopatra
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| but....but Cleopatra if we gave them an island then they could not
| propagate and they would die off.
| That's discriminating against them.
| We couldn't have that.
| After all homosexuality is normal.
We gays don't need to propagate. You breeders pop us out at a regular
rate.
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jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply
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| User: "K6" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 04:26:46 PM |
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Jeff North a =E9crit :
We gays don't need to propagate. You breeders pop us out at a regular
rate.
Breeding or not breeding,that is the question.
By not breeding,heterosexuals would instantly put an end to our
existence,but to theirs as well.By breeding,they run the definite risk
of having gay descendants who won`t send back the elevator by which
they were raised.
We are the winners in this combination,in the sense that we get our
human ressources anyway and wether the heterosexuals want it or
not,without the risks or costs involved in breeding.More or less like a
country like Canada,which gets about half of its yearly human
replacements by way of immigration.
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
06 Dec 2005 09:32:20 AM |
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On 5 Dec 2005 14:26:46 -0800, "K6" <kingsix@abacom.com>
spake thusly:
Jeff North a écrit :
We gays don't need to propagate. You breeders pop us out at a regular
rate.
Breeding or not breeding,that is the question.
Seems to me, if it was Adam and Steve, you wouldn't
be here to argue about it. :)
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
06 Dec 2005 08:33:01 PM |
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Ananias917 wrote:
Seems to me, if it was Adam and Steve, you wouldn't
be here to argue about it. :)
Let's see, three immortals -- together since eternity began -- decide to
create. The first thing one of them does is to create another man. Um,
"oops."
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
08 Dec 2005 06:48:00 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:33:01 GMT, Dionisio
<moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> spake thusly:
Ananias917 wrote:
Seems to me, if it was Adam and Steve, you wouldn't
be here to argue about it. :)
Let's see, three immortals -- together since eternity began -- decide to
create. The first thing one of them does is to create another man. Um,
"oops."
R U really this dumb? They obviously had daughters.
You're here, or didn't you know that? The dance
doesn't help you. Having a son does not eliminate
the fact that if it was Adam and Steve, you wouldn't
be here. DUH!
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "K6" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 11:23:00 AM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
but....but Cleopatra if we gave them an island then they could not
propagate and they would die off.
A gay independent state would have no problem in replacing its human
ressources by way of gay immigration.There will always be plenty of
available gays abroad for that purpose.
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 11:15:45 PM |
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"K6" <kingsix@abacom.com> wrote in message
news:1133803380.815650.176390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Richard Dawkins wrote:
but....but Cleopatra if we gave them an island then they could not
propagate and they would die off.
A gay independent state would have no problem in replacing its human
ressources by way of gay immigration.There will always be plenty of
available gays abroad for that purpose.
The point is spud that queers cannot reproduce.
Hence they are abnormal.
Don't blame me blame scientific fact.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Straights can change if they want. |
05 Dec 2005 11:25:35 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:15:45 -0700,
Richard Dawkins wrote:
K6 <kingsix@abacom.com> wrote:
Richard Dawkins wrote:
but....but Cleopatra if we gave them an island then
they could not propagate and they would die off.
A gay independent state would have no problem in
replacing its human resources by way of gay immigration.
There will always be plenty of available gays abroad for
that purpose.
(Not to mention, of course, the MANY ways -- including
upcoming human cloning -- by which they can obtain and
raise children, thanks to modern science and medicine.)
The point is spud that queers cannot reproduce.
Hence they are abnormal.
Don't blame me blame scientific fact.
ROTFL!!!! That's like saying:
Right-handers write well only with their right hand.
Left-handers write well only with their left hand.
Hence, the latter are abnormal.
Don't blame me blame scientific fact.
[[[ READERS: RRR cultists are truly some of the
absolutely most IGNORANT louts on the face
of the planet. And they keep right on *proving*
it to everyone. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
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