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"J Young" |
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03 Jan 2006 12:11:32 PM |
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Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
The pro-choice people will tell you they are pro-woman, yet they won't tell
women about the psychological consequences of an abortion. Pro-life
activists do inform women of *all* the facts available. If you're a woman
contemplating an abortion, would you rather know all the facts or just some
of them?
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48160
Study: Abortion raises risk of depression
A new study finds women who have an abortion in their youth raise the risk
of developing depression, anxiety and other mental health problems.
The researchers tracked 1,265 children from birth in the 1970s in New
Zealand in the Christchurch Health and Development Study, the Herald Sun
newspaper of Melbourne, Australia reported.
Among the women in the study who had an abortion, 42 percent at age 25 had
experienced major depression at some stage during the previous four years.
That's nearly double the rate of those who had never been pregnant.
The researchers said the risk of anxiety disorders also increased by a
similar degree, the Melbourne paper reported.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
04 Jan 2006 01:06:59 AM |
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If a woman is depressed, WHY does that concern you...unless of
course, it's the can't get out of bed to cook and clean for family/shop and
grow the economy/attend church when required type.
Paul
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| User: "Edgar A Pearlstein" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 12:58:03 PM |
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: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression
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: A new study finds women who have an abortion in their youth raise the risk
: of developing depression, anxiety and other mental health problems.
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: The researchers tracked 1,265 children from birth in the 1970s in New
: Zealand in the Christchurch Health and Development Study, the Herald Sun
: newspaper of Melbourne, Australia reported.
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: Among the women in the study who had an abortion, 42 percent at age 25 had
: experienced major depression at some stage during the previous four years.
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: That's nearly double the rate of those who had never been pregnant.
WRONG CONTROL GROUP! The comparison should be done with women who
carried to term, especially those whose pregnancy was unintentional.
Post-partum depression is very common.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion lowers risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 12:34:34 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The pro-choice people will tell you they are pro-woman,
I have never written any such thing. Quite the contrary, I have
stated more than once that I am NOT pro-woman.
yet they won't tell
women about the psychological consequences of an abortion.
Abortion doesn't affect well-being, study says
New York Times (as printed in the San Jose Mercury 2/12/97)
Abortion does not trigger lasting emotional trauma in young women who
are psychologically healthy before they become pregnant, an eight-year
study of nearly 5,300 women has shown. Women who are in poor shape
emotionally after an abortion are likely to have been feeling bad about
their lives before terminating their pregnancies, the researchers said.
The findings, the researchers say, challenge the validity of laws
that have been proposed in many states, and passed in several, mandating
that women seeking abortions be informed of mental health risks.
The researchers, Dr. Nancy Felipe Russo, a psychologist at Arizona
State University in Tempe, and Dr. Amy Dabul Marin, a psychologist at
Phoenix College, examined the effects of race and religion on the
well-being of 773 women who reported on sealed questionnaires that
they had undergone abortions, and they compared the results with the
emotional status of women who did not report abortions.
The women, initially 14 to 24 years old, completed questionnaires and
were interviewed each year for eight years, starting in 1979. In 1980
and in 1987, the interview also included a standardized test that
measures overall well-being, the Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale.
"Given the persistent assertion that abortion is associated with
negative outcomes, the lack of any results in the context of such a
large sample is noteworthy," the researchers wrote. The study took
into account many factors that can influence a woman's emotional
well-being, including education, employment, income, the presence of
a spouse and the number of children.
Higher self-esteem was associated with being employed, having a
higher income, having more years of education and bearing fewer children,
but having had an abortion "did not make a difference," the researchers
reported. And the women's religious affiliations and degree of involvement
with religion did not have an independent effect on their long-term
reaction to abortion. Rather, the women's psychological well-being before
having abortions accounted for their mental state in the years after the
abortion, the researchers said..
In considering the influence of race, the researchers again found
that the women's level of self-esteem before having abortions was the
strongest predictor of their well-being after an abortion.
"Although highly religious Catholic women were slightly more likely
to exhibit post-abortion psychological distress than other women, this
fact is explained by lower pre-existing self-esteem," the researchers
wrote in the current issue of Professional Psychology: Research and
Practice, a journal of the American Psychological Association.
Overall, Catholic women who attended church one or more times a week,
even those who had not had abortions, had generally lower self-esteem
than other women, although within the normal range, so it was hardly
surprising that they also had lower self-esteem after abortions, the
researchers said in interviews.
Gail Quinn, executive director of anti-abortion activities for the
United States Catholic Conference, said the findings belied the
experience of post-abortion counselors. She said, "While many women
express `relief' following an abortion, the relief is transitory."
In the long term, the experience prompts "hurting people to seek the
help of post-abortion healing services," she said.
The president of the National Right to Life Committee, Dr. Wanda
Franz, who earned her doctorate in developmental psychology, challenged
the researchers' conclusions. She said their assessment of self-esteem
"does not measure if a woman is mentally healthy," adding, "This requires
a specialist who performs certain tests, not a self-assessment of how
the woman feels about herself."
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 12:58:35 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The pro-choice people will tell you they are pro-woman, yet they
won't tell women about the psychological consequences of an abortion.
Pro-life activists do inform women of *all* the facts available. If
you're a woman contemplating an abortion, would you rather know all
the facts or just some of them?
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48160
Study: Abortion raises risk of depression
A new study finds women who have an abortion in their youth raise the
risk of developing depression, anxiety and other mental health
problems.
The researchers tracked 1,265 children from birth in the 1970s in New
Zealand in the Christchurch Health and Development Study, the Herald
Sun newspaper of Melbourne, Australia reported.
Among the women in the study who had an abortion, 42 percent at age
25 had experienced major depression at some stage during the previous
four years.
That's nearly double the rate of those who had never been pregnant.
The researchers said the risk of anxiety disorders also increased by a
similar degree, the Melbourne paper reported.
The "study" (or the report made) compares people who have never been
pregnant with those who had an abortion.
I'd bet a nickel that they didn't compare abortion with full term
pregnancies because "major" (what ever that means) depression is common
among such women after childbirth and some depression is almost the norm.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 12:30:10 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The pro-choice people will tell you they are pro-woman, yet they won't tell
women about the psychological consequences of an abortion.
Because there aren't any.
Pro-life
activists do inform women of *all* the facts available.
Like abortion is 10 times safe than childbirth? Actually, anti-choice
people like you are known to lie and distort the truth to women.
If you're a woman
contemplating an abortion, would you rather know all the facts or just some
of them?
And who would you more truth with the facts? An anti-choice,
anti-woman person with an agenda, or a reputable agency that has no
stake in the matter, such as the American Psychiatric Association for
the subject of his following news article?
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48160
Not a reputable source.
Study: Abortion raises risk of depression
A new study finds women who have an abortion in their youth raise the risk
of developing depression, anxiety and other mental health problems.
The researchers tracked 1,265 children from birth in the 1970s in New
Zealand in the Christchurch Health and Development Study, the Herald Sun
newspaper of Melbourne, Australia reported.
Among the women in the study who had an abortion, 42 percent at age 25 had
experienced major depression at some stage during the previous four years.
That's nearly double the rate of those who had never been pregnant.
The researchers said the risk of anxiety disorders also increased by a
similar degree, the Melbourne paper reported.
Correlation does NOT equal causation. Were demographics normalized so
that the same types and economic and educational statused women were
being compared to each other? Were other causes for depression,like
life and family problems, poverty, guilt trips laid on the women for no
reason, accounted for? What was the original journal that the research
was published in? Is it a major, reputable journal, or one that is not
used by serious scientists? How was the data collected, and what
selection methods were used? Were the researchers or the organization
that they worked for known to have an agenda that might taint the data
or its interpretation?
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
Let us know when you decide to start following these principles. And
you might add "Equality and Tolerance" to your watch list, since you
need to exhibit those as well.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 02:43:26 PM |
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:11:32 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Youngy, you are so fucking obsessed with abortion anyone would think
you bring yourself to orgasm over it.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 12:26:26 PM |
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Only the Christian Taliban would like to control a womans reproductive
organs. Like the religious police in some Muslim country control the dress,
behavior and beliefs of women.
If a woman is not in full charge of deciding whether she chooses an abortion
or not depends whether she lives in slavery or not!
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3KudnYNf-YXMIyfenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
The pro-choice people will tell you they are pro-woman, yet they won't
tell
women about the psychological consequences of an
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 04:38:06 PM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:Mizuf.91774$k76.87075@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
would like to control a womans reproductive organs.
Hands off is much better than to be someone who uses the hands on approach
in dealing with women's reproductive organs, which shows your accusatory
innuendo to be the very thing you are guilty of.
Like the religious police in some Muslim country control the dress,
behavior and beliefs of women.
In your fearmonger world of lies and deceit you assume that such references
and insulting language will somehow deceive persons into your less than
ideal concept of women's rights and false-love theology.
If a woman is not in full charge of deciding whether she chooses an
abortion or not depends whether she lives in slavery or not!
Slavery is illegal, according to the Constitution.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 06:17:51 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:P_Cuf.19625$3I3.3501@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:Mizuf.91774$k76.87075@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
You can join the Taliban in hiding in Afghanistan.
They have exactly the same beliefs concerning religious police and abortion
as you do.
would like to control a womans reproductive organs.
Hands off is much better than to be someone who uses the hands on approach
in dealing with women's reproductive organs, which shows your accusatory
innuendo to be the very thing you are guilty of.
Like the religious police in some Muslim country control the dress,
behavior and beliefs of women.
In your fearmonger world of lies and deceit you assume that such
references and insulting language will somehow deceive persons into your
less than ideal concept of women's rights and false-love theology.
If a woman is not in full charge of deciding whether she chooses an
abortion or not depends whether she lives in slavery or not!
Slavery is illegal, according to the Constitution.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 05:05:31 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
Here's a link to one of it's leaders:
www.patrobertson.com
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 06:46:00 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43bb033b$0$58104$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
Here's a link to one of it's leaders:
www.patrobertson.com
I did not ask about any other organization by any other name than the
Christian Taliban.
English isn't one of the things you are talented at, huh?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
03 Jan 2006 10:44:33 PM |
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(newsgroups de-spammed, since Johnny's too stupid and insane to figure out
what the headers are for)
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43bb033b$0$58104$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
Here's a link to one of it's leaders:
www.patrobertson.com
I did not ask about any other organization by any other name than the
Christian Taliban. English isn't one of the things you are talented at, huh?
Thinking isn't one of the things you're even remotely acquainted with,
Wentzky.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, San Antonio 3 (OT) (December 31)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, January 5 at San Antonio, 7:05
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
04 Jan 2006 12:58:34 AM |
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*I did not ask about any other organization by any other name than the
*Christian Taliban.
*English isn't one of the things you are talented at, huh?
Obviously, the concept of metaphors is way beyond you, Johnny...
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Abortion raises risk of depression |
04 Jan 2006 01:27:57 AM |
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in article 43bb033b$0$58104$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, Ray Fischer at
rfischer@sonic.net wrote on 1/3/06 6:05 PM:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
Only the Christian Taliban
Is there such an organization so I can donate to it?
Here's a link to one of it's leaders:
www.patrobertson.com
He's already on Johnny's speed dial...
Paul
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| User: "satyr" |
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04 Jan 2006 02:22:45 AM |
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:38:06 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
If a woman is not in full charge of deciding whether she chooses an
abortion or not depends whether she lives in slavery or not!
Slavery is illegal, according to the Constitution.
Still legal in the Bible, though.
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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