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Posted on December 26, 2005=20
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government guidelines =
on abortion, after a new study into the mental effects of abortion has =
revealed that women who terminate pregnancies can still suffer from =
distress up to five years after the event. Research published by the =
University of Oslo indicates that women who have abortions suffer more =
long-term mental distress than those who have miscarriages during =
pregnancy. According to the study, after five years just 2.6 per cent of =
women in the miscarriage group were still suffering distress compared =
with 20 per cent in the abortion group. "This provides further evidence =
of the reality of post-abortion trauma, which is distinct in nature from =
trauma following a miscarriage," Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political =
secretary, commented. "The Government has for decades made post-abortion =
trauma worse for women by denying them the 'permission' to grieve," Mr =
Ozimic, added. "We will be challenging the Government to withdraw its =
pro-abortion propaganda that 'only a small minority of women experience =
any long-term, psychological effects after abortion.' "If the law was =
changed to create in effect a right to abortion on demand in early =
pregnancy, it would actually place women under psychological pressure to =
have abortions." The Norwegian report confirms what many who work day in =
day out with women who have had abortions already knew - that abortions =
are seriously damaging to mental health. Laura Middleton, National =
Director of Caring at LIFE, a pro-life group that offers confidential =
pre and post abortion counselling hotlines, said: "Forty-five percent of =
calls to our help line are from women seeking support several years =
after having an abortion."=20
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25 Dec 2005 10:47:53 PM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in
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Study confirms long-term mental trauma
of abortion Posted on December 26, 2005
You forget this is obvious. When a woman is considering abortion, she is
deciding between two horrid options. No one pretends abortion is nice,
it isn't.
Strictly, it is not mental trauma, because mental disorders are only
caused by themselves. The long term trauma to which you refer is caused
by abortion, and pregnancy, so it is not mental.
Notice psychosis caused by Japanese war torture is not Schizophrenia, and
depression caused by Cancer is not Depressive Illness.
That could be grounds for challenging abortions performed to protect a
woman's mental health. Pregnancy is not a mental disorder, so the
problems it causes, including Post Natal Depression (about 50% of all
mothers), are not mental disorders.
But then, challenging medical mendacity and taking your alleged beliefs
seriously, is not the Christian way.
In Jesus' Name we pay.
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| User: "Michael" |
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25 Dec 2005 06:49:28 PM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:EKGrf.32172$Mi5.16757@dukeread07...
"Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government guidelines on
abortion, after a new study into the mental effects of abortion has revealed
that women who terminate pregnancies can still suffer from distress up to
five years after the event. Research published by the University of Oslo
indicates that women who have abortions suffer more long-term mental
distress than those who have miscarriages during pregnancy. According to the
study, after five years just 2.6 per cent of women in the miscarriage group
were still suffering distress compared with 20 per cent in the abortion
group. "This provides further evidence of the reality of post-abortion
trauma, which is distinct in nature from trauma following a miscarriage,"
Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political secretary, commented. "The Government has for
decades made post-abortion trauma worse for women by denying them the
'permission' to grieve," Mr Ozimic, added. "We will be challenging the
Government to withdraw its pro-abortion propaganda that 'only a small
minority of women experience any long-term, psychological effects after
abortion.' "If the law was changed to create in effect a right to abortion
on demand in early pregnancy, it would actually place women under
psychological pressure to have abortions." The Norwegian report confirms
what many who work day in day out with women who have had abortions already
knew - that abortions are seriously damaging to mental health. Laura
Middleton, National Director of Caring at LIFE, a pro-life group that offers
confidential pre and post abortion counselling hotlines, said: "Forty-five
percent of calls to our help line are from women seeking support several
years after having an abortion.""
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SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell
because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and
to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take
away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com"
NO, SAY THIS PRAYER INSTEAD: Dear Jesus, Thank you for redeeming our world
and atoning for all our sins. Please tell us how we can spread this really
good news and what we can do each day to show our gratitude.
See: http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
Is their distress really not from the guilt producing theology of
conservative christians? Why would they be distressed if they had asked a
live God what to do directly instead of asking a dead book? Why would they
be distressed if they knew they were redeemed and were only working out
their salvation with the comfort of the Comforter? I have worked with with
many that were distressed by their conservative leagalistic christian guilt,
and the blame game taught by the world and christians, and they only began
their recovery by learning how to forgive themselves like Jesus taught.
Very Respectfully, Michael
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25 Dec 2005 10:58:05 PM |
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"Michael" <nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote in
news:crqdnWws6JSHozLeRVn-vA@adelphia.com:
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus,
You claim You are omniscient, but Werner Karl Heisenberg proved omniscience
is impossible, with his Uncertainty Principle, so You do not exist, and I
and not going to listen to You any more.
Amen.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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27 Dec 2005 01:38:52 PM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote:
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<rofl!> And I bet that thousands of utterly insane Christian buttfucks
actually believe it, too. }:-}
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25 Dec 2005 07:07:08 PM |
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Abortions are seriously damaging to mental health most often in the
case of women who did NOT want the abortion and were
pressured/threatened by spouse, parents, medical issues against their
ultimate wishes. That would be around 20% (maybe even 30% or more but
it's difficult to tell) of abortions.
I feel truly sorry for women in these situations. It is my STRONG
belief that women in these situations should just go ahead and have the
child, despite the pressure and take those risks because that is what
they truly want and that would be the best choice for her. In many
cases it's just the parents or spouse testing the woman to see how far
they can push her. If the woman rejects the authority of those
pressuring her and goes ahead to keep the child those around her will
support her even more. The fact that so many a woman cannot stand up
for herself and their own identity deeply saddens me.
It seems that so many women do not have real choices but rather feel
coerced into abortion as a means or protecting or pleasing someone else.
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| User: "Shawn Hirn" |
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26 Dec 2005 06:40:59 PM |
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In article <EKGrf.32172$Mi5.16757@dukeread07>,
"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote:
Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government guidelines on
abortion, after a new study into the mental effects of abortion has
revealed that women who terminate pregnancies can still suffer from
distress up to five years after the event.
This is the same study you posted a while ago that was bebunked. You are
such a liar you can't even remember which lies you have tried to foist
upon people.
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| User: "enialle" |
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26 Dec 2005 10:42:01 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 19:23:40 -0500, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
<Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote:
-Life groups are calling for a change to Government guidelines on
abortion, after a new study into the mental
effects of abortion has revealed that women who
terminate pregnancies can still suffer from distress
up to five years after the event.
I would never believe any study conducted by a group with an agenda.
Let's see the study and see if it done correctly and peer reviewed and
printed in a respected scientific journal.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Dec 2005 07:11:54 PM |
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Rev. Donald Spitz <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote:
Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government guidelines on abortion, after a new study into the
WASHINGTON -- Social scientists have known for years that the
availability of legal abortion is not associated with long-term
psychological distress in women who use it. An eight-year longitudinal
study involving nearly 5,300 young women published in 1992 found that
the best predictor of well-being in women over the course of the study
was their well-being at the start of the study, not their income
level, job status, level of education or martial status or -- quite
specifically -- whether they had had an abortion. Now a new follow-up
study, published in the current edition of the American Psychological
Association's (APA) journal Professional Psychology: Research and
Practice finds that the same conclusion still applies regardless of
religious or racial differences.
The study, by psychologists Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D., of Arizona
State University and Amy J. Dabul, Ph.D., of Phoenix College, is
further analysis of data gathered from a national sample of 5,295
women aged 14 to 24 (in 1979) who were interviewed annually from 1979
to 1987. The women's well-being was assessed using a reliable and
valid measure of self-esteem in 1980 and again in 1987. This time, in
addition to looking at variables such as income, employment and
education, the researchers looked at race and religious beliefs and
practices to see if they had any effect on women's well-being after
having had an abortion.
They found that, overall, White women and Black women did not differ
statistically on measures of self-esteem. Approximately the same
proportion of Black women and White women reported having had an
abortion (14.6% and 14.9% respectively), but Black women had more
abortions than White women and Black women who had abortions were more
likely than White women to be mothers (86% vs 57%). Nonetheless,
having had an abortion (or more than one) had no relation with
self-esteem in either group: "For both Black women and White women,
prior self-esteem was the biggest predictor of subsequent
self-esteem," the authors note. The same held true when they compared
Black and White women who reported a religious affiliation and high or
low church attendance with those who were not religious.
Since the type of religion to which women who had an abortion belonged
also did not make a difference in their post-abortion well-being, the
researchers focused specifically on Catholic versus non-Catholic
women, given that the Catholic Church "has a consistent antiabortion
position that is vigorously promoted."
Their findings in this analysis were more complex: non- Catholic women
who had high church attendance and one abortion had the highest
self-esteem; non-Catholic women who had low church attendance and
repeat abortions had the lowest self-esteem. But at the same time,
high-church-attendance non-Catholic women with one abortion had
significantly higher self-esteem than did low-church- attendance
Catholic women with no abortions. "Although highly religious Catholic
women were slightly more likely to exhibit postabortion psychological
distress than other women," the researchers say, "this fact is
explained by lower pre-existing well-being."
Given these findings, the researchers ask: "Do highly distressed women
who have had an abortion exist?" And, they answer: "Yes. But their
distress is likely to be rooted in events and conditions that existed
before they became pregnant. Legal abortion per se does not increase a
woman's risk of negative well- being."
Article: "The Relationship of Abortion to Well-Being: Do Race and
Religion Make a Difference?" by Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D., Arizona
State University, and Amy J. Dabul, Ph.D., Phoenix College, in
Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, Vol. 28, No. 1.
(Full texts available from the APA Public Affairs Office.)
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Icarus" |
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25 Dec 2005 06:30:33 PM |
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Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government
guidelines on abortion, after a new study into the mental
effects of abortion has revealed that women who terminate
pregnancies can still suffer from distress up to five years
after the event. Research published by the University of Oslo
indicates that women who have abortions suffer more long-term
mental distress than those who have miscarriages during
pregnancy. According to the study, after five years just 2.6
per cent of women in the miscarriage group were still
suffering distress compared with 20 per cent in the abortion
group. "This provides further evidence of the reality of
post-abortion trauma, which is distinct in nature from trauma
following a miscarriage," Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political
secretary, commented...
Only a fool would deny that abortion can be distressing, but the point
is that the alternatives (many years of rearing an unwanted child, or
giving birth and then having the baby adopted) *could* be just as
distressing or more so, and the only person entitled to decide which
course to take is the woman concerned.
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25 Dec 2005 08:56:26 PM |
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While I oppose abortion I agree with the president (eg during 2000
debates) that we don't want this to turn into a civil war. The way to
avoid a civil war is to not fight abortion in the courts and
legislatures (because that battle will be an endless see-saw) but in
the hearts and minds. Christianity won over the Roman Empire because
of its opposition to.. yep.. abortion. Ironically, as it is,t he
abortionists are extincting themselves.. by abortion.
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Pataki+JebBush in 2008!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Dec 2005 09:21:42 PM |
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<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
While I oppose abortion I agree with the president (eg during 2000
debates) that we don't want this to turn into a civil war.
Of course Bush and the neocons want to turn it into a civil war.
Haven't you been paying attention? What do you think the smear
campaigns and the attacks on non-Christians have been about?
The way to
avoid a civil war is to not fight abortion in the courts and
legislatures (because that battle will be an endless see-saw) but in
the hearts and minds.
Gonna be tough given the fanatical intolerance and outright lying we
see from abortion opponents.
Christianity won over the Roman Empire because
of its opposition to.. yep.. abortion.
You don't prove the morality of your position with such lies.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "banana" |
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25 Dec 2005 10:54:36 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:43af61c6$0$58039
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Of course Bush and the neocons want
to turn it into a civil war.
The Republican Party was born in war, and with any luck, will die in the
Iraq war.
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http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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26 Dec 2005 10:48:51 AM |
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On 26 Dec 2005 03:21:42 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
While I oppose abortion I agree with the president (eg during 2000
debates) that we don't want this to turn into a civil war.
Of course Bush and the neocons want to turn it into a civil war.
Haven't you been paying attention? What do you think the smear
campaigns and the attacks on non-Christians have been about?
bush is such a phony. There is rumor he took a Gf to have an abortion.
A lot of these pro lifers when confronted with an unwanted pregnancy
all of a sudden are not so full of convictions.
Abortion should never be banned. Each person in order to make a
decision should be allowed to have make an informed decisions with all
the options on the table. Then they should have a three day waiting
period before they decide what to do. If they choose an abortion then
it should be legal to do so.
I said this before: I know some people who had abortions and from what
i can tell they have absolutely no regrets. I also know others who
were pressured to have one (eg.,by a BF) and regret that decision all
their lives.
The way to
avoid a civil war is to not fight abortion in the courts and
legislatures (because that battle will be an endless see-saw) but in
the hearts and minds.
Gonna be tough given the fanatical intolerance and outright lying we
see from abortion opponents.
Christianity won over the Roman Empire because
of its opposition to.. yep.. abortion.
You don't prove the morality of your position with such lies.
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| User: "Michael" |
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25 Dec 2005 06:55:42 PM |
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"Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com> wrote in message
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Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government
guidelines on abortion, after a new study into the mental
effects of abortion has revealed that women who terminate
pregnancies can still suffer from distress up to five years
after the event. Research published by the University of Oslo
indicates that women who have abortions suffer more long-term
mental distress than those who have miscarriages during
pregnancy. According to the study, after five years just 2.6
per cent of women in the miscarriage group were still
suffering distress compared with 20 per cent in the abortion
group. "This provides further evidence of the reality of
post-abortion trauma, which is distinct in nature from trauma
following a miscarriage," Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political
secretary, commented...
Only a fool would deny that abortion can be distressing, but the point
is that the alternatives (many years of rearing an unwanted child, or
giving birth and then having the baby adopted) *could* be just as
distressing or more so, and the only person entitled to decide which
course to take is the woman concerned.
And they have the freedom of religion under our Constitution to consult with
their Lord Most High on their decision.
Michael @ http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com
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25 Dec 2005 10:50:52 PM |
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"Michael" <nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote in
news:YMqdnZy_ap0SojLeRVn-iQ@adelphia.com:
And they have the freedom of religion under our Constitution
to consult with their Lord Most High on their decision.
If she doesn't, He'll send in the US Armed Forces, like He did to Iraq, in
order to prove our invisible friend is more powerful than their invisible
friend.
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http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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25 Dec 2005 06:48:22 PM |
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Michael wrote:
"Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com> wrote in message
news:418solF1d8mmeU1@individual.net...
Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
Study confirms long-term mental trauma of abortion
Posted on December 26, 2005
Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government
guidelines on abortion, after a new study into the mental
effects of abortion has revealed that women who terminate
pregnancies can still suffer from distress up to five years
after the event. Research published by the University of Oslo
indicates that women who have abortions suffer more long-term
mental distress than those who have miscarriages during
pregnancy. According to the study, after five years just 2.6
per cent of women in the miscarriage group were still
suffering distress compared with 20 per cent in the abortion
group. "This provides further evidence of the reality of
post-abortion trauma, which is distinct in nature from trauma
following a miscarriage," Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political
secretary, commented...
Only a fool would deny that abortion can be distressing, but
the point is that the alternatives (many years of rearing an
unwanted child, or giving birth and then having the baby
adopted) *could* be just as distressing or more so, and the
only person entitled to decide which course to take is the
woman concerned.
And they have the freedom of religion under our Constitution
to consult with their Lord Most High on their decision.
Much good will it do them...
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25 Dec 2005 10:19:13 PM |
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The question is, do you want BIG GOVERNMENT telling you what to do on a
private issue? That's what it all boils down to. I don't think abortion is,
in general, a good thing. But I also realize it's a personal issue. That's
right, it is personal. We will never all agree on when life begins, on what
is a valid reason for abortion, or whether aborting a child to a woman
unprepared for it is preferable or not to seeing the pregnancy through and
having the child live in an unsupportive home. Oh, that's right, an
UNSUPPORTIVE HOME. Because Rethugs, being the hypocritic fucks they are,
don't give one flying ***** about the baby after it's born. So, given the
disagreements and lack of consensus, it is, and always will be, a personal
decision. Democrats believe personal decisions should be made by, get this,
THE PERSON WHO IS AFFECTED BY THE DECISION. Republicans, despite their
breathless and seeingly constant rhetoric to the contrary, believe personal
decisions should be made by BIG GOVERNMENT. And there you have it, folks.
Democratic personal responsibility, or the Republican nanny state. Me? I
choose personal responsibility. I don't want Republican BIG GOVERNMENT
making my decisions for me.
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26 Dec 2005 10:50:53 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:19:13 -0600, <dan@dan.com> wrote:
The question is, do you want BIG GOVERNMENT telling you what to do on a
private issue? That's what it all boils down to. I don't think abortion is,
in general, a good thing. But I also realize it's a personal issue. That's
right, it is personal. We will never all agree on when life begins, on what
is a valid reason for abortion, or whether aborting a child to a woman
unprepared for it is preferable or not to seeing the pregnancy through and
having the child live in an unsupportive home. Oh, that's right, an
UNSUPPORTIVE HOME. Because Rethugs, being the hypocritic fucks they are,
don't give one flying ***** about the baby after it's born. So, given the
disagreements and lack of consensus, it is, and always will be, a personal
decision. Democrats believe personal decisions should be made by, get this,
THE PERSON WHO IS AFFECTED BY THE DECISION. Republicans, despite their
breathless and seeingly constant rhetoric to the contrary, believe personal
decisions should be made by BIG GOVERNMENT. And there you have it, folks.
Democratic personal responsibility, or the Republican nanny state. Me? I
choose personal responsibility. I don't want Republican BIG GOVERNMENT
making my decisions for me.
Remember in the good old days the repugs used to say we should get Big
Government out of our lives?
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26 Dec 2005 10:26:31 AM |
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Wow, someone who actually thought about the issue.
Thanks
Michael @ http://RecoveryByDiscovey.com
<dan@dan.com> wrote in message news:ftidnc7L8P7S8jLeRVn-rA@comcast.com...
The question is, do you want BIG GOVERNMENT telling you what to do on a
private issue? That's what it all boils down to. I don't think abortion
is, in general, a good thing. But I also realize it's a personal issue.
That's right, it is personal. We will never all agree on when life begins,
on what is a valid reason for abortion, or whether aborting a child to a
woman unprepared for it is preferable or not to seeing the pregnancy
through and having the child live in an unsupportive home. Oh, that's
right, an UNSUPPORTIVE HOME. Because Rethugs, being the hypocritic fucks
they are, don't give one flying ***** about the baby after it's born. So,
given the disagreements and lack of consensus, it is, and always will be,
a personal decision. Democrats believe personal decisions should be made
by, get this, THE PERSON WHO IS AFFECTED BY THE DECISION. Republicans,
despite their breathless and seeingly constant rhetoric to the contrary,
believe personal decisions should be made by BIG GOVERNMENT. And there you
have it, folks. Democratic personal responsibility, or the Republican
nanny state. Me? I choose personal responsibility. I don't want Republican
BIG GOVERNMENT making my decisions for me.
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25 Dec 2005 06:27:29 PM |
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Pro-Life groups are calling for a change to Government =
guidelines on abortion, after a new study into the mental effects of =
abortion has revealed that women who terminate pregnancies can still =
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published by the University of Oslo indicates that women who have =
abortions suffer more long-term mental distress than those who have =
miscarriages during pregnancy. According to the study, after five years =
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further evidence of the reality of post-abortion trauma, which is =
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abortion on demand in early pregnancy, it would actually place women =
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| User: "Submariner" |
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25 Dec 2005 09:23:33 PM |
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Too bad you weren't aborted.
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