Science > Abortion > Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy
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Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07102602.html
Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral
Palsy
31.5% of children born with very low birth weight due to prior induced
abortions
By Hilary White
VANCOUVER, Canada, October 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An article
appearing in this month's edition of the Journal of Reproductive
Medicine concludes that nearly 32 per cent of "very-preterm" U.S.
births, that is, before 32 weeks gestation, are due to the mother
having had a prior abortion. This information, combined with previous
research in the relation between low birth weight children and
cerebral palsy (CP), results in an estimated 1,096 children suffering
from CP because of their mother's prior abortion.
The 2002 data examines 4,021,726 births, 4,021,726 preterm babies and
72,751 very-preterm babies.
The study's authors, with the Reduce Preterm Risk Coalition based in
Vancouver, are Dr. Byron Calhoun an obstetrics and gynecology
professor at Western Virginia University, Dr. Elizabeth Shadigian,
obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Michigan and Brent
Rooney the research director. They concluded that prior induced
abortion is a significant risk factor in very pre-term births and
cerebral palsy.
The research backs up previous findings published in 2006 by Dr.
Richard E. Behrman of Stanford University's Institute of Medicine,
that named "prior first trimester induced abortion" as "immutable
medical risk factor associated with preterm birth".
Very pre-term babies have much higher than normal risks of suffering
medical problems including cerebral palsy, mental retardation, autism,
epilepsy, blindness, deafness, lung impairment and serious infections.
The estimate combines a study of 58,717 newborns with a birth weight
under 1500 grams (3 pounds 5 ounces) most of whom were very-preterm.
Calhoun estimated that since 31.5 per cent of children born with very
low birth weight are due to prior induced abortions. Approximately 7.7
per cent of children with very low birth weight develop CP, at least
1,096 cases of CP are directly associated with the mother's prior
abortion.
The article further estimated a direct cost to the health care system
of abortion-related pre-term babies at US $1.2 billion in 2002. This
estimate did not include long-term costs for ongoing, often life-long
medical expenses and lost income such children will suffer.
The article is listed in the Journal index as:
Cost Consequences of Induced Abortion as an Attributable Risk for
Preterm Birth and Impact on Informed Consent
B. C. Calhoun, E. Shadigian and B. Rooney
Induced abortion contributes to significantly increased initial
neonatal health costs, >$1.2 billion, and 1,096 excess cerebral palsy
cases per year in the United States
Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
1,100 Excess Brain Damaged Babies are Born Yearly in US Due to
Previous Abortions
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/04042209.html
New Study Confirms Abortion Increases Risk of Future Premature Births
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/apr/05042906.html
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28 Oct 2007 03:33:23 AM |
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On 28 Okt., 03:55, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07102602.html
Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral
Palsy
See: nothing left!
J Young, if you want to be taken seriously on any topic, how about
using serious sources?
As for the Journal of Reproductive Medicine, that's the rag that
claimed women being prayed for by Christian groups doubled their
chances of becoming pregnant through in vitro fertilization. Enough
said.
No surprise you quote it...
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| User: "Greg Carr" |
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28 Oct 2007 05:46:48 AM |
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http://www.reproductivemedicine.com/TOC/Toc.htm seems to be a reputable peer
reviewed journal although I can't find the article that Lifesite claims is
on it.
Dr.Calhoun is a very outspoken pro-lifer.
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again and walked the earth. We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
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Sheep are extremely fluffy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4NEbU_YkZw#gAhmzK_HQgc
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On 28 Okt., 03:55, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07102602.html
Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral
Palsy
See: nothing left!
J Young, if you want to be taken seriously on any topic, how about
using serious sources?
As for the Journal of Reproductive Medicine, that's the rag that
claimed women being prayed for by Christian groups doubled their
chances of becoming pregnant through in vitro fertilization. Enough
said.
No surprise you quote it...
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28 Oct 2007 11:41:50 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:55:05 -0700, J Young wrote:
Study:
J Young posts linked to arrogant stupidity and bigotry.
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28 Oct 2007 08:24:15 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:55:05 -0700, J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net
You mean liesite.net...
(Truth in advertising ya see)
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
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31 Oct 2007 09:16:01 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:24:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:55:05 -0700, J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net
You mean liesite.net...
(Truth in advertising ya see)
You used "truth" and "J Young" in the same Usenet.
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and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger
with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:16:01 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:24:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:55:05 -0700, J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net
You mean liesite.net...
(Truth in advertising ya see)
You used "truth" and "J Young" in the same Usenet.
No *wonder* my machine crashed.
And here I thought it had something to do with jumping on the first
release of Leopard...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach
their heart's desire at last, and the White House will
be adorned by a downright moron.”
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01 Nov 2007 10:52:44 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:14:24 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:16:01 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:24:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:55:05 -0700, J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net
You mean liesite.net...
(Truth in advertising ya see)
You used "truth" and "J Young" in the same Usenet.
No *wonder* my machine crashed.
I would have expected half of the routers in the world to crash. I
guess we were just lucky.
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Al at Webdingers dot com
"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation
and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger
with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change
them."
- Abraham Lincoln
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| User: "Greg Carr" |
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27 Oct 2007 11:38:10 PM |
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What does this have to do with can.politics?
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Read and obey the Bible. Yu'shua died on the cross for our sins, He rose
again and walked the earth. We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
Judgment.
Sheep are extremely fluffy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4NEbU_YkZw#gAhmzK_HQgc
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1193540105.133367.220270@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07102602.html
Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral
Palsy
31.5% of children born with very low birth weight due to prior induced
abortions
By Hilary White
VANCOUVER, Canada, October 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An article
appearing in this month's edition of the Journal of Reproductive
Medicine concludes that nearly 32 per cent of "very-preterm" U.S.
births, that is, before 32 weeks gestation, are due to the mother
having had a prior abortion. This information, combined with previous
research in the relation between low birth weight children and
cerebral palsy (CP), results in an estimated 1,096 children suffering
from CP because of their mother's prior abortion.
The 2002 data examines 4,021,726 births, 4,021,726 preterm babies and
72,751 very-preterm babies.
The study's authors, with the Reduce Preterm Risk Coalition based in
Vancouver, are Dr. Byron Calhoun an obstetrics and gynecology
professor at Western Virginia University, Dr. Elizabeth Shadigian,
obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Michigan and Brent
Rooney the research director. They concluded that prior induced
abortion is a significant risk factor in very pre-term births and
cerebral palsy.
The research backs up previous findings published in 2006 by Dr.
Richard E. Behrman of Stanford University's Institute of Medicine,
that named "prior first trimester induced abortion" as "immutable
medical risk factor associated with preterm birth".
Very pre-term babies have much higher than normal risks of suffering
medical problems including cerebral palsy, mental retardation, autism,
epilepsy, blindness, deafness, lung impairment and serious infections.
The estimate combines a study of 58,717 newborns with a birth weight
under 1500 grams (3 pounds 5 ounces) most of whom were very-preterm.
Calhoun estimated that since 31.5 per cent of children born with very
low birth weight are due to prior induced abortions. Approximately 7.7
per cent of children with very low birth weight develop CP, at least
1,096 cases of CP are directly associated with the mother's prior
abortion.
The article further estimated a direct cost to the health care system
of abortion-related pre-term babies at US $1.2 billion in 2002. This
estimate did not include long-term costs for ongoing, often life-long
medical expenses and lost income such children will suffer.
The article is listed in the Journal index as:
Cost Consequences of Induced Abortion as an Attributable Risk for
Preterm Birth and Impact on Informed Consent
B. C. Calhoun, E. Shadigian and B. Rooney
Induced abortion contributes to significantly increased initial
neonatal health costs, >$1.2 billion, and 1,096 excess cerebral palsy
cases per year in the United States
Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
1,100 Excess Brain Damaged Babies are Born Yearly in US Due to
Previous Abortions
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/04042209.html
New Study Confirms Abortion Increases Risk of Future Premature Births
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/apr/05042906.html
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(c) Copyright: LifeSiteNews.com. Permission to republish is granted
(with limitation*) but acknowledgement of source is *REQUIRED* (use
LifeSiteNews.com).
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 12:08:57 AM |
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On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
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| User: "Chom Noamsky" |
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28 Oct 2007 02:33:45 AM |
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"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Some more facts:
* global incidence of birth before 32 weeks: 1-2% of live born
* 40-50% of pre-term births are due to infections
* smoking increases the risk of very pre-term delivery by 100%
* assisted reproduction and multiple births greatly increase the incidence
of birth
Other risk factors include:
- Assisted reproduction
- Illicit drug use
- Alcohol use
- Pregnant with twins, triplets or more
- Previous preterm delivery
- Preterm premature rupture of the membranes
- Maternal history of one or more spontaneous second-trimester miscarriages
- Lack of prenatal care
- Stress
- Long periods of standing
- Domestic violence
- Myomata
- Uterine septum
- Bicornuate uterus
- Cervical incompetence
- Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES)
- Certain infections
- Intrauterine fetal death
- Intrauterine growth retardation
- Abnormal placenta
- Presence of a retained IUD
- Clotting disorders
- Obesity
- Being underweight before pregnancy
- Short time between pregnancy (less than 6-9 months between birth and
beginning of next pregnancy)
- Diabetes
Prior abortion is a contributing risk factor in less than 0.66% of very
pre-term (before 32 weeks) births.
If you honestly cared about the health of babies you should be concerned
about the serious risk factors... not the least relevant ones like prior
abortion.
Stupid religious fundies have nothign but ***** for brains.
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| User: "Greg Carr" |
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28 Oct 2007 05:32:59 AM |
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"Chom Noamsky" <b@t.me> wrote in message
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"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote:
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Some more facts:
* global incidence of birth before 32 weeks: 1-2% of live born
* 40-50% of pre-term births are due to infections
* smoking increases the risk of very pre-term delivery by 100%
* assisted reproduction and multiple births greatly increase the incidence
of birth
Other risk factors include:
- Assisted reproduction
- Illicit drug use
- Alcohol use
- Pregnant with twins, triplets or more
- Previous preterm delivery
- Preterm premature rupture of the membranes
- Maternal history of one or more spontaneous second-trimester
miscarriages
- Lack of prenatal care
- Stress
- Long periods of standing
- Domestic violence
- Myomata
- Uterine septum
- Bicornuate uterus
- Cervical incompetence
- Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES)
- Certain infections
- Intrauterine fetal death
- Intrauterine growth retardation
- Abnormal placenta
- Presence of a retained IUD
- Clotting disorders
- Obesity
- Being underweight before pregnancy
- Short time between pregnancy (less than 6-9 months between birth and
beginning of next pregnancy)
- Diabetes
Prior abortion is a contributing risk factor in less than 0.66% of very
pre-term (before 32 weeks) births.
I did a quick Google of this and found nothing to back it up. Have a cite?
If you honestly cared about the health of babies you should be concerned
about the serious risk factors... not the least relevant ones like prior
abortion.
That assertion was stated by medical doctors. Your assertion has no cite.
Stupid religious fundies have nothign but ***** for brains.
Whatever. The Lifesite ppl win this round. Make abortion a death penalty
crime for the provider and the female getting one.
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28 Oct 2007 03:35:19 AM |
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On 28 Okt., 06:08, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border?
There are no "pre-born". That's catholic newspeak. Intelligent people
say "foetus".
Are you a "pre-dead"?
My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Judging by your quasi daily postings, your "job" is to expose yourself
as a nazi turd, a bigot, an arrogant sack of ***** and a hypocrite.
Our "job" is to kick your *****.
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28 Oct 2007 05:34:39 AM |
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<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193560519.405552.302200@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 28 Okt., 06:08, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border?
There are no "pre-born". That's catholic newspeak. Intelligent people
say "foetus".
Are you a "pre-dead"?
I like the term pre-born. Fetus or foetus are both correct of course.
My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Judging by your quasi daily postings, your "job" is to expose yourself
as a nazi turd, a bigot, an arrogant sack of ***** and a hypocrite.
Our "job" is to kick your *****.
Do it honestly :-) Abortion is homicide.
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01 Nov 2007 08:53:22 AM |
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On Oct 28, 12:08 am, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border?
Is there a low supply of little girls up there? Has business been that
bad for you, IBenmolesting littlegirls?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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28 Oct 2007 05:59:26 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
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| User: "Tennessee Tuxedo" |
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28 Oct 2007 07:15:27 AM |
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John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
Birth Control is genocide.
Besides, there is no proof in the Bible that Jesus Christ ever had sex with a
woman, so why should anyone else? He was born of immaculate conception and
all religious fanatics should attempt the same method.
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28 Oct 2007 11:09:53 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:15:27 -0400, Tennessee Tuxedo
<getsmart@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
Birth Control is genocide.
Besides, there is no proof in the Bible that Jesus Christ ever had sex with a
woman, so why should anyone else?
So you're telling me ol' JC never dipped his wick in Mary Magdalene?
Come on, dude. Who do you think you're fooling? ;-)
He was born of immaculate conception and
all religious fanatics should attempt the same method.
If they only would.....
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28 Oct 2007 07:21:33 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:15:27 -0400, Tennessee Tuxedo
<getsmart@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
Birth Control is genocide.
Idiot.
Besides, there is no proof in the Bible that Jesus Christ ever had sex with a
woman, so why should anyone else? He was born of immaculate conception and
all religious fanatics should attempt the same method.
The moron doesn't even know his religion's own theology. It was Mary
who was supposed to have been born of immaculate conception.
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28 Oct 2007 07:29:21 AM |
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Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:15:27 -0400, Tennessee Tuxedo
<getsmart@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
Birth Control is genocide.
Idiot.
Those who wrote the Bible were convinced that spermatozoa were tiny little
humans. Are you doubting the time tested and extensive holy wisdom of the
Bible?
If you doubt me, it's all there in black and white. God's word on the printed
page.
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28 Oct 2007 11:04:07 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:21:33 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:15:27 -0400, Tennessee Tuxedo
<getsmart@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Your job, apparently, is to be a brain-dead fuckwt. And you're damned
good at it.
Birth Control is genocide.
Idiot.
Besides, there is no proof in the Bible that Jesus Christ ever had sex with a
woman, so why should anyone else? He was born of immaculate conception and
all religious fanatics should attempt the same method.
The moron doesn't even know his religion's own theology. It was Mary
who was supposed to have been born of immaculate conception.
Ummm.....Chris.... he's joking.
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28 Oct 2007 11:42:55 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:08:57 -0700, J Young wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
Why would Canada give a ***** what a some loon in the US thinks about
anything?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“To die for an idea; it is unquestionably noble.
But how much nobler it would be if men died for
ideas that were true!”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Greg Carr" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 05:26:12 AM |
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Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder we both know
that but to tell you the truth off-topic posting and spam bothers me more
than abortion. Go figure. Good luck in making abortion illegal where you
live.
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Read and obey the Bible. Yu'shua died on the cross for our sins, He rose
again and walked the earth. We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
Judgment.
Sheep are extremely fluffy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4NEbU_YkZw#gAhmzK_HQgc
"J Young" <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 12:38?am, "Greg Carr" <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Don't they legally kill the pre-born north of the border? My job is to
provide the facts, *your* job is to fight to change the law.
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and CerebralPalsy |
28 Oct 2007 07:11:10 AM |
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Greg Carr wrote:
Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder
Can you cite the law on that?
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| User: "Enigma" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 07:45:04 AM |
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Martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Greg Carr wrote:
Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder
Can you cite the law on that?
If Mr. Carr doesn't like abortion, he should avoid having one at all costs and
under any circumstances. That's what I would do if I were in his shoes.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 11:02:36 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:45:04 -0400, Enigma <enigma@hotmail.com> wrote:
Martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Greg Carr wrote:
Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder
Can you cite the law on that?
If Mr. Carr doesn't like abortion, he should avoid having one at all costs and
under any circumstances. That's what I would do if I were in his shoes.
An eminently sensible solution. Unfortunately, Mr. Carr, like most
fundamentalist Christians, suffers from a peculiar mental affliction
which compels him to mind everyone else's business.
People like Greg will never be happy as long as anyone anywhere is
permitted to do anything they don't approve of.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 07:27:43 AM |
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On Oct 28, 12:11 pm, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Greg Carr wrote:
Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder
Can you cite the law on that?
In UK law it most certainly isn't murder, as to be murder it must be
the killing of another person with malice aforethought, and a person,
as defined in the Attorney General reference no2 of 1994 (1996)
defines a person as someone who can survive independantly of maternal
support (in short, the only time someone was murdered before being
born is when a pregnant mother was stabbed at full term, the baby was
delivered alive and died two weeks later of it's injuries). Otherwise
it's not murder.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Tennessee Tuxedo" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 07:35:40 AM |
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Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
In UK law it most certainly isn't murder, as to be murder it must be
the killing of another person with malice aforethought, and a person,
as defined in the Attorney General reference no2 of 1994 (1996)
defines a person as someone who can survive independantly of maternal
support (in short, the only time someone was murdered before being
born is when a pregnant mother was stabbed at full term, the baby was
delivered alive and died two weeks later of it's injuries). Otherwise
it's not murder.
The Bible is firm on how people who dress in mixed threads should be stoned to
death but has no references to abortion save for the fact that a woman is the
property of her man. Get rid of your poly / cotton blends or face the holy
justice of the believers.
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| User: "Tom S." |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 08:42:24 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:27:43 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:11 pm, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Greg Carr wrote:
Your job is to make it relevant to the ng that you post it to. I don't think
JHVH cares about off-topic posts but I do. Abortion is murder
Can you cite the law on that?
In UK law it most certainly isn't murder, as to be murder it must be
the killing of another person with malice aforethought, and a person,
as defined in the Attorney General reference no2 of 1994 (1996)
defines a person as someone who can survive independantly of maternal
support (in short, the only time someone was murdered before being
born is when a pregnant mother was stabbed at full term, the baby was
delivered alive and died two weeks later of it's injuries). Otherwise
it's not murder.
The law is much the same in all of the United States. Of course, it
is a bit different here with each state having it's own laws, but the
laws are relatively consistent for all 50 states and the District of
Columbia.
Tom S.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth andCerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 11:42:25 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:38:10 +0000, Greg Carr wrote:
What does this have to do with can.politics?
Nothing.
Every newsgroup is "alt.fan.j-young" in Young's world...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy |
28 Oct 2007 06:35:01 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:38:10 GMT, "Greg Carr" <gregpcarr@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
Read and obey the Bible.
Why should we read the irrelevant scriptures of somebody else's
religion, let alone obey them, moron?
Yu'shua died on the cross for our sins,
Where did you prove this in the real world outside your religion
before rudely and stupidly presuming it?
He rose
again and walked the earth.
Prove it, question-begging moron.
We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
Judgment.
Don't be so in-your-face, rudely stupid.
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