Science > Abortion > Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior
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Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned? Of course not.
Kudos to the educators who have their priorities in order.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2503.html
Philadelphia, PA (LifeNews.com) -- A new study conducted by researchers at
the University of Pennsylvania finds that teaching abstinence education to
young teenagers in public schools reduces their sexual behavior. The study
found that abstinence helped delay the starting point at which teenagers
begin having sexual relations.
The Penn researchers studied 662 African-American students in 6th and 7th
grade from inner-city schools in Philadelphia.
They found that those who were taught abstinence were less likely to have
had sexual relations in a 24 month followup compared to those who were
taught about safer sex through the use of condoms but didn't mention
abstinence.
At the International AIDS Conference in Toronto yesterday, former President
Bill Clinton echoed the claims made by abortion advocates that abstinence
programs make teens less likely to use condoms when they do start having
sex.
But the University of Pennsylvania study found the opposite to be true.
"It did not reduce intentions to use condoms, it did not reduce beliefs
about the efficacy of condoms, it did not decrease consistent condom use and
it did not decrease condom use at last sexual [encounter]," lead author John
Jemmott, of the University of Pennsylvania, told the CanWest News Service.
"There aren't any studies that show that children are less likely to use
condoms as a result of an abstinence intervention. I've looked in the
literature, there are no studies that show that," Jemmott said.
The kids involved the study were between the ages of 10 and 15 and were
split evenly between boys and girls. Some 23 percent said they had had sex
before the study began.
Jemmott's study involved teaching kids not to have any kind of sexual
relations until later in their life when they would be ready to handle the
consequences of it.
"We caused them to have more positive attitudes towards abstinence and the
negative consequences of engaging in sexual activity at an early age,
including less likely to achieve one's career goals," he said.
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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03 Sep 2006 04:26:19 AM |
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"Mr. Young" wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
Who is the Republican champion of chastity and virtue?
Bill Bennet!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The gambler who prefer the US would abort all blacks to "reduce crime"
The champion of morality and decency
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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03 Sep 2006 11:38:26 PM |
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"cor" <cor@exchangenet.net> wrote in message
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"Mr. Young" wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts
that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean
the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
Who is the Republican champion of chastity and virtue?
Bill Bennet!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The gambler who prefer the US would abort all blacks to "reduce crime"
Not to defend Bill Bennet, who is just a weenie like the rest of 'em. But I
don't believe he ever said that. I heard his abortion riff played over and
over again, and I don't recall it going like that.
Curt
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| User: "bob young" |
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01 Sep 2006 11:27:02 PM |
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"Mr. Young" wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned? Of course not.
Kudos to the educators who have their priorities in order.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2503.html
Philadelphia, PA (LifeNews.com) -- A new study conducted by researchers at
the University of Pennsylvania finds that teaching abstinence education to
young teenagers in public schools reduces their sexual behavior. The study
found that abstinence helped delay the starting point at which teenagers
begin having sexual relations.
Probably only by about two months.
Too bad the evolutionary process provides us with a dose of sexuality varying
from, person to person.
Then there are the 'extremes' who struggle with their sexuality and fall into
what narrow minded bigots refer to as 'the sinful group'
Too bad they cannot find the compassion and reason to accept what is fact.
Bob
The Penn researchers studied 662 African-American students in 6th and 7th
grade from inner-city schools in Philadelphia.
They found that those who were taught abstinence were less likely to have
had sexual relations in a 24 month followup compared to those who were
taught about safer sex through the use of condoms but didn't mention
abstinence.
At the International AIDS Conference in Toronto yesterday, former President
Bill Clinton echoed the claims made by abortion advocates that abstinence
programs make teens less likely to use condoms when they do start having
sex.
But the University of Pennsylvania study found the opposite to be true.
"It did not reduce intentions to use condoms, it did not reduce beliefs
about the efficacy of condoms, it did not decrease consistent condom use and
it did not decrease condom use at last sexual [encounter]," lead author John
Jemmott, of the University of Pennsylvania, told the CanWest News Service.
"There aren't any studies that show that children are less likely to use
condoms as a result of an abstinence intervention. I've looked in the
literature, there are no studies that show that," Jemmott said.
The kids involved the study were between the ages of 10 and 15 and were
split evenly between boys and girls. Some 23 percent said they had had sex
before the study began.
Jemmott's study involved teaching kids not to have any kind of sexual
relations until later in their life when they would be ready to handle the
consequences of it.
"We caused them to have more positive attitudes towards abstinence and the
negative consequences of engaging in sexual activity at an early age,
including less likely to achieve one's career goals," he said.
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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02 Sep 2006 11:46:46 AM |
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House bound loser "Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Trolling at 11pm on a Friday night: "Ms. Young's" abstinence on display.
Fitting, really.
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:27:03 AM |
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In our last episode, <Rs2dnSkYYMGQn2TZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, the
lovely and talented Mr. Young broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither.
There is no one, in any "liberal establishment" or otherwise, who is opposed
to abstenance education. It has been shown repeatedly that abstenance ONLY
education is ineffective and dangerous. And the study you quote does not
say otherwise. Your study did not compare abstenance ONLY education with
sex education, in which cases sex education always has better outcomes.
The study compared sexual eduction including abstenance and sex education
without abstenance. An no one, "liberal establishment" or not, ever doubted
the outcome.
You see, liberalism is about personal liberty and personal responsibility
based on the best and most complete information available. No liberal has
ever opposed the teaching of abstenance as a part of sex eduction that
includes complete information about all options including safer sex and
contraception. The only argument liberals have ever had with teaching
abstenance is when it is presented as the only option in a program which
provides no useful information about other options.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."
--Ann Coulter, on 9/11 widows
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| User: "Claude" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:07:31 AM |
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It's just like taking candy away from a baby.
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Attention Please:
All those who have 2, turn one in.
All those who are without, draw 1.
Thank you very much.
Claude Hopper
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 Sep 2006 02:05:53 AM |
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Mr. Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither.
You prefer to dispense with courts and laws and just murder the people
who you don't like.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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02 Sep 2006 02:08:08 AM |
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Mr. Young schrieb:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true,
What has abstinence to do with "morality" and "common sense"? Just
because you can't get any doesn't mean that the rest of the planet has
to be as pathetic as you.
but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither.
This, coming from a racist, homophone and intolerant ***** like you.
No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned? Of course not.
Kudos to the educators who have their priorities in order.
Idiot. These "programs" don't work. How come countries with a more
liberal approach to sexuality and sexual education have a much lower
teenage pregnancy rate and a much lower abortion rate than the USA,
especially compared with the states from the "bible belt"? How come the
USA have firgures that can only be compared to countries with a much
more repressed attitude toward sex?
But since you're such a hypocrite, you've never answered these
questions that I've asked several times. Actually, if you were honest,
you'd admit that these "abstinence programs" are a total disaster.
Why is it that people like you are so obsessed with sexuality, nudity
and sexual orientation?
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2503.html
How about using credible sources next time.
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| User: "" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:58:18 AM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
human anthropologists and health care workers have proven it to be
impossible.
There, fixed it for your. Gad, you people have been trying to get
people to stop fucking for damn near twenty centuries. Have you ever
stopped to think perhaps you're tilting at a windmill?
Abstinence is for ugly people.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Mike" |
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03 Sep 2006 04:06:55 AM |
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wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
human anthropologists and health care workers have proven it to be
impossible.
There, fixed it for your. Gad, you people have been trying to get
people to stop fucking for damn near twenty centuries. Have you ever
stopped to think perhaps you're tilting at a windmill?
The solution is very obvious. At birth the boys should have their
ballocks cut off and the girls should have their genitalia mutulated.
That way there would be none of this immoral hanky panky that leads to
unwanted pregnancies and abortion would not have to be an issue.
Yours in Christ
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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03 Sep 2006 09:07:26 AM |
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Mike wrote:
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
human anthropologists and health care workers have proven it to be
impossible.
There, fixed it for your. Gad, you people have been trying to get
people to stop fucking for damn near twenty centuries. Have you ever
stopped to think perhaps you're tilting at a windmill?
The solution is very obvious. At birth the boys should have their
ballocks cut off and the girls should have their genitalia mutulated.
That way there would be none of this immoral hanky panky that leads to
unwanted pregnancies and abortion would not have to be an issue.
Yours in Christ
Didn't school start yet? If not you still have a chance to stock up on
pimple cream. Posts like this obviously come from school children who
think they discovered a new word.
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| User: "Mike" |
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05 Sep 2006 05:58:11 PM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Mike wrote:
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
human anthropologists and health care workers have proven it to be
impossible.
There, fixed it for your. Gad, you people have been trying to get
people to stop fucking for damn near twenty centuries. Have you ever
stopped to think perhaps you're tilting at a windmill?
The solution is very obvious. At birth the boys should have their
ballocks cut off and the girls should have their genitalia mutulated.
That way there would be none of this immoral hanky panky that leads to
unwanted pregnancies and abortion would not have to be an issue.
Yours in Christ
Didn't school start yet? If not you still have a chance to stock up on
pimple cream. Posts like this obviously come from school children who
think they discovered a new word.
??? Which word did I use that you think I just discovered? Yes school
has started. I am a professor of mathematics. Haven't had any pimples
for a few decades.
Praise Jesus
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03 Sep 2006 04:11:11 AM |
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Mike wrote:
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
human anthropologists and health care workers have proven it to be
impossible.
There, fixed it for your. Gad, you people have been trying to get
people to stop fucking for damn near twenty centuries. Have you ever
stopped to think perhaps you're tilting at a windmill?
The solution is very obvious. At birth the boys should have their
ballocks cut off and the girls should have their genitalia mutulated.
That way there would be none of this immoral hanky panky that leads to
unwanted pregnancies and abortion would not have to be an issue.
Yours in Christ
LOL!
-PF, Atl.
Numberzzz n stuff
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| User: "" |
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03 Sep 2006 11:00:07 AM |
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Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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03 Sep 2006 02:21:50 PM |
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<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts
that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Of course this is where you end up. You start by, legitimately, saying we
must be compassinate to those who haven't lived up to the ideal, and
fathered children out of wedlock or been involved in prostitution.
Then you start talking about alternative family structures and "sex
workers", refusing even to acknowledge that these people are doing anythign
wrong.
Finally you fail to see that chastity is worthwhile. I think people can
convince themselves of this for a time. But no man, faced with an adulterous
wife, will say 'what she is doing is fine by me, I still love her'. If he
does accept the adultery it is only because he himself is commiting
adultery, and the marraige becomes a formality only, in the rare cases when
there is no divorce.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "Curt" |
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03 Sep 2006 11:42:10 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts
that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean
the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Of course this is where you end up. You start by, legitimately, saying we
must be compassinate to those who haven't lived up to the ideal, and
fathered children out of wedlock or been involved in prostitution.
Then you start talking about alternative family structures and "sex
workers", refusing even to acknowledge that these people are doing
anythign
wrong.
Finally you fail to see that chastity is worthwhile. I think people can
convince themselves of this for a time. But no man, faced with an
adulterous
wife, will say 'what she is doing is fine by me, I still love her'. If he
does accept the adultery it is only because he himself is commiting
adultery, and the marraige becomes a formality only, in the rare cases
when
there is no divorce.
I'm not sure everyone is using the word "chastity" here in the same way.
There is no particular virtue in chastity.
There is a demonstrable virtue, in many cases, in fidelity, which is what I
think you must have meant.
But neither chastity nor fidelity has anything to do with the "alternative
family structures" and "sex worker" stuff you bandy about.
Curt
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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04 Sep 2006 07:20:43 PM |
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Malcolm wrote:
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts
that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Of course this is where you end up. You start by, legitimately, saying we
must be compassinate to those who haven't lived up to the ideal, and
fathered children out of wedlock or been involved in prostitution.
Then you start talking about alternative family structures and "sex
workers", refusing even to acknowledge that these people are doing anythign
wrong.
Finally you fail to see that chastity is worthwhile. I think people can
convince themselves of this for a time. But no man, faced with an adulterous
wife, will say 'what she is doing is fine by me, I still love her'. If he
does accept the adultery it is only because he himself is commiting
adultery, and the marraige becomes a formality only, in the rare cases when
there is no divorce.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
Your analogy, to borrow a phrase from Son of Discord, blows goats.
Here's why.
There is a difference between having sex BEFORE marriage and having sex
with other partners DURING it.
Of course it's pretty bad to be in a relationship where your other half
is unfaithful, but basically, all we are talking about here is serial
monogamy. IE, get into a relationship, tis cool while it lasts, stay
faithful etc, but then it ends and you move on.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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03 Sep 2006 11:09:50 AM |
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wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir‧tu‧ous  /ˈvɜrtʃuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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07 Sep 2006 08:21:50 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one doubts
that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not mean
the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir‧tu‧ous  /ˈvɜrtʃuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and have
no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which make no sense
in the first place? *shrugs*
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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07 Sep 2006 08:26:56 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir‧tu‧ous  /ˈvɜrtʃuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and have
no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which make no
sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
The left is very well known for their spinning when caught in a lie!
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| User: "Mike" |
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08 Sep 2006 03:18:19 PM |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /?v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
I want to point out some obvious facts that are always ignored in
discussions of teenagers' sexual conduct. Let us suppose for the sake
of argument that it is good to be "chaste" and not experiment with
multiple partners before settling down with someone. We inherited this
so-called traditional morality from previous generations and I want to
observe that things are rather DIFFERENT than they used to be.
Specifically, the age of puberty plummeted over the 20th century (I
don't think the medical people claim to understand exactly why) and at
the same time for economic and sociological reasons the age of marriage
has gone way up. 150 years ago girls typically had puberty at 15 or 16
and were typically married by 18 or 19. Boys typically had puberty at
16 or 17 and were married by 21 or 22. Nowadays girls have puberty at
12 or 13 and boys at 13 or 14 and most people don't marry until their
mid to late 20s. OBVIOUSLY that creates a problem. There is not,
never has been, and never will be a human culture where celibacy for
more than a decade after puberty is the norm. That is simply not a
reasonable way for people to be happy and healthy.
I don't have a good answer to this dilemma. I am not thrilled with
teenagers sexually experimenting at increasingly young ages, but what
exactly is the solution? Abstinence before marriage is simply NOT a
good solution for the reasons I mentioned above. Anyways it amuses me
to see right wing Christians with a cultivated Victorian prudery
scratching their heads to understand the breakdown of "traditional
morality". (The devil is triumphing in the world you know; or perhaps
its those awful leftists?) If everyone would simply take note of the
obvious facts I mentioned above then the mystery would be dispelled.
How could it be otherwise?
The left is very well known for their spinning when caught in a lie!
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08 Sep 2006 04:58:58 PM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message
news:1157746699.853515.112770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
I don't have a good answer to this dilemma. I am not thrilled with
teenagers sexually experimenting at increasingly young ages, but what
exactly is the solution?
Education. I'm not saying it worked on me, but, on the other hand, if they'd
have shown the stuff the military shows you before your first liberty...
"This is what your junk looks like with syphillis. This is what your junk
looks like with gonorrhea (sp). This Marine has actual -FIRE- shooting out
of his *****. This Marine thought that by wearing a condom he was safe. Oh,
look...crotch crabs!"
Find the biggest, nastiest oral herpe example you can find and explain that
it's what you can get from oral sex and your partner might never know he's
infected. "HPV? Here's what cervical cancer looks like..."
-c
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
08 Sep 2006 08:18:00 AM |
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir‧tu‧ous  /ˈvɜrtʃuəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
The left is very well known for their spinning when caught in a lie!
1) Left?
2) What lie?
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| User: "Sancho Panza" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
08 Sep 2006 06:21:08 PM |
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences of both
actions are analagous, too.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
08 Sep 2006 10:02:00 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:21:08 -0400, Sancho Panza <otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which
make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences of
both
actions are analagous, too.
In this day and age, use a condom every time (or if you're a woman, stick
to other women XD) and one can be as promiscuous as they want without
having to worry about getting or spreading anything, period. *shrugs*
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| User: "Sancho Panza" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
09 Sep 2006 12:17:33 AM |
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tflb0xpg5i5s70@chris...
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:21:08 -0400, Sancho Panza <otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which
make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences of
both
actions are analagous, too.
In this day and age, use a condom every time (or if you're a woman, stick
to other women XD) and one can be as promiscuous as they want without
having to worry about getting or spreading anything, period. *shrugs*
Got those figures on condom use and efficacy?
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
09 Sep 2006 06:56:02 AM |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:17:33 -0400, Sancho Panza <otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tflb0xpg5i5s70@chris...
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:21:08 -0400, Sancho Panza
<otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally
excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary
and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which
make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't
eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences of
both
actions are analagous, too.
In this day and age, use a condom every time (or if you're a woman,
stick
to other women XD) and one can be as promiscuous as they want without
having to worry about getting or spreading anything, period. *shrugs*
Got those figures on condom use and efficacy?
97% when used perfectly (frankly, I never understood how some people have
condoms break on them etc. They should learn how to use one, because I
never had a problem--never got so much as a scare of a condom break) seems
to be the general consensus on several sites. Also:
"By blocking the exchange of body fluids that might be infected, the latex
condom provides the best protection available against STDs. Used
consistently and correctly, condoms are highly effective at preventing the
transmission of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the virus that
causes AIDS, and at reducing the risk of infection from other STDs.
In fact, with the spread of AIDS and other STDs, latex condoms may have a
greater role in disease prevention than in contraception. Condoms are
almost synonymous with safe sex. In any non-exclusive sexual relationship
— or in any relationship in which one partner's HIV status is unknown —
you should automatically be using a condom, even if your partner is on the
pill or using another form of contraception. Condoms greatly reduce the
risk that either partner will pass a sexually transmitted virus or
bacterium to the other. Condoms protect the penis and urethra, where
sexually transmitted infections may begin after contact with STD-causing
agents in the partner's vagina, rectum or mouth. In turn, they protect
men's partners from sexually transmitted organisms that may be in penile
lesions, semen or pre-ejaculatory fluid." --
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/condoms/HQ00463
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| User: "Sancho Panza" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
11 Sep 2006 05:59:42 PM |
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfl0qyzg5i5s70@chris...
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:17:33 -0400, Sancho Panza <otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tflb0xpg5i5s70@chris...
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:21:08 -0400, Sancho Panza
<otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally
excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary
and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which
make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't
eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences of
both
actions are analagous, too.
In this day and age, use a condom every time (or if you're a woman,
stick
to other women XD) and one can be as promiscuous as they want without
having to worry about getting or spreading anything, period. *shrugs*
Got those figures on condom use and efficacy?
97% when used perfectly
Sorry, looking for real-life numbers, not some made up laboratory ideal.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
11 Sep 2006 11:21:36 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:59:42 -0400, Sancho Panza <otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfl0qyzg5i5s70@chris...
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:17:33 -0400, Sancho Panza
<otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tflb0xpg5i5s70@chris...
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:21:08 -0400, Sancho Panza
<otterpower@xhotmail.com>
wrote:
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfj9vmlk5i5s70@chris...
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:56 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:09:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:
Mr. Young wrote:
Morality and common sense would dictate this to be true, but
unfortunately,
the liberal establishment apparently possesses neither. No one
doubts that
some teenagers will engage in pre-marital sex, but that does
not
mean the
entire concept of chastity and virtue should be abandoned?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Michael
Damn communist LIAR!
vir?tu?ous /'v?rt?u?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[vur-choo-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
Pronunciation
-adjective
1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally
excellent;
upright: Lead a virtuous life.
2. chaste: a virtuous young person.
Thing is the "principles" and "ethics" are completely arbitrary
and
have no real meaning. Who cares about adhering to "virtues" which
make
no sense in the first place? *shrugs*
These your words?
There is NOTHING virtuous about chastity.
Nope. But I agree with it. What's so great about resisting a
natural,
harmless biological urge? That's like someone bragging they didn't
eat a
banana in 10 years. Okay, good for you, so what?
That's surely some equivalency. I bet you would say the consequences
of
both
actions are analagous, too.
In this day and age, use a condom every time (or if you're a woman,
stick
to other women XD) and one can be as promiscuous as they want without
having to worry about getting or spreading anything, period. *shrugs*
Got those figures on condom use and efficacy?
97% when used perfectly
Sorry, looking for real-life numbers, not some made up laboratory ideal.
Pff, it's not my fault no one's teaching these kids how to use condoms
correctly. Damnit, no one taught me, and I've never fucked it up. The
concept of a condom breaking sounds almost mythical to me, honestly.
The perfect number is what matters most, I think. Once you know how well
something can work, then one works on making sure that they know what the
***** they're doing, no? Wouldn't that make sense? I mean, it's not rocket
science to use a condom correctly, sheesh.
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| User: "gatt" |
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| Title: Re: Study Shows Abstinence Education Reduces Teenage Sexual Behavior |
12 Sep 2006 05:23:36 PM |
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tfqzp80z5i5s70@chris...
The perfect number is what matters most, I think. Once you know how well
something can work, then one works on making sure that they know what the
***** they're doing, no? Wouldn't that make sense? I mean, it's not rocket
science to use a condom correctly, sheesh.
Quality control or material defects can cause them to break. It happens.
-c
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