Science > Abortion > Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer
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07 Aug 2006 11:04:32 AM |
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Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2478.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life law firm has filed a brief with
the Supreme Court in the case concerning the Congressional-approved ban on
partial-birth abortions. The American Center for Law and Justice told the
court to reject the argument made by abortion advocates that abortion is
safer than childbirth.
After President Bush signed the partial-birth abortion ban, pro-abortion
groups launched three lawsuits against it and federal appeals courts in
Nebraska, New York and California declared the ban unconstitutional.
The ACLJ has already filed a brief in the Nebraska case and submitted papers
in the California case on Thursday.
"Yet again we see the proponents of abortion making the false assertion that
abortion is actually safer than childbirth," said Jay Sekulow, the ACLJ's
chief counsel.
"That assertion is not only inaccurate but in fact is the reverse of the
truth, which is that abortion is more dangerous than childbirth. Our brief,
with careful documentation, explodes the myth of abortion as safer than
childbirth," Sekulow explained.
The legal papers are important because the Supreme Court rejected a state
ban on partial-birth abortions in a 2000 case and said the ban needed a
health exception in cases when a partial-birth abortion is necessary to
protect the woman's health.
However, numerous doctors groups have said that the three-day long abortion
procedure is never necessary to protect the health of the mother or in an
emergency situation and specialists testified to that during the lower court
trials.
The ACLJ brief explains that the comparison of maternal mortality and
abortion mortality statistics is akin to mixing apples and oranges and
cannot be compared one-to-one. Further, the brief asserts the comparison is
invalid because the data itself is inaccurate and incomplete.
The brief also cites numerous published research studies - in this country
and abroad - as evidence that "strongly indicates that abortion, rather than
being safer than childbirth, is in fact more dangerous."
"In sum, there is ample reason to believe that abortion is detrimental to
maternal health and, if anything, more likely to lead to death or other
adverse consequences than is continuing the pregnancy," the brief argues.
"This Court should take with a very large grain of salt any assertion that
abortion is healthy for women, much less some sort of panacea. There is good
reason to believe precisely the contrary," it said.
In the Nebraska case, the ACLJ filed an amicus brief with the high court
representing some 80 members of Congress and more than 320,000 Americans
asking the high court to uphold the ban.
The California case is Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood Federation of America
and the high court will likely combine the cases into one. The Nebraska case
is Gonzales v. Carhart.
The high court is expected to hold hearings this fall and announce a
decision in early 2007.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer (because judges know better than doctors) |
08 Aug 2006 01:21:34 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are.
Your pro-liar propaganda.
Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother,
Where did you get your medical dreee?
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rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
07 Aug 2006 04:36:02 PM |
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schrieb:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are expos=
ed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
There is no "killing babies" implied in an abortion. Stop lying.
Besides, your mere existence is doing more for abortion than you'll
ever know.
You wanna help your cause? Stop posting your nonsense.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2478.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life law firm has filed a brief wi=
th
the Supreme Court in the case concerning the Congressional-approved ban on
partial-birth abortions. The American Center for Law and Justice told the
court to reject the argument made by abortion advocates that abortion is
safer than childbirth.
After President Bush signed the partial-birth abortion ban, pro-abortion
groups launched three lawsuits against it and federal appeals courts in
Nebraska, New York and California declared the ban unconstitutional.
The ACLJ has already filed a brief in the Nebraska case and submitted pap=
ers
in the California case on Thursday.
"Yet again we see the proponents of abortion making the false assertion t=
hat
abortion is actually safer than childbirth," said Jay Sekulow, the ACLJ's
chief counsel.
"That assertion is not only inaccurate but in fact is the reverse of the
truth, which is that abortion is more dangerous than childbirth. Our brie=
f,
with careful documentation, explodes the myth of abortion as safer than
childbirth," Sekulow explained.
The legal papers are important because the Supreme Court rejected a state
ban on partial-birth abortions in a 2000 case and said the ban needed a
health exception in cases when a partial-birth abortion is necessary to
protect the woman's health.
However, numerous doctors groups have said that the three-day long aborti=
on
procedure is never necessary to protect the health of the mother or in an
emergency situation and specialists testified to that during the lower co=
urt
trials.
The ACLJ brief explains that the comparison of maternal mortality and
abortion mortality statistics is akin to mixing apples and oranges and
cannot be compared one-to-one. Further, the brief asserts the comparison =
is
invalid because the data itself is inaccurate and incomplete.
The brief also cites numerous published research studies - in this country
and abroad - as evidence that "strongly indicates that abortion, rather t=
han
being safer than childbirth, is in fact more dangerous."
"In sum, there is ample reason to believe that abortion is detrimental to
maternal health and, if anything, more likely to lead to death or other
adverse consequences than is continuing the pregnancy," the brief argues.
"This Court should take with a very large grain of salt any assertion that
abortion is healthy for women, much less some sort of panacea. There is g=
ood
reason to believe precisely the contrary," it said.
In the Nebraska case, the ACLJ filed an amicus brief with the high court
representing some 80 members of Congress and more than 320,000 Americans
asking the high court to uphold the ban.
The California case is Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood Federation of Ameri=
ca
and the high court will likely combine the cases into one. The Nebraska c=
ase
is Gonzales v. Carhart.
The high court is expected to hold hearings this fall and announce a
decision in early 2007.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
07 Aug 2006 06:19:28 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154986562.457170.219490@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
There is no "killing babies"
*Liar.
implied in an abortion. Stop lying.
******. A liar telling someone to stop lying?
Besides, your mere existence is doing more for abortion than you'll
ever know.
*actually, existence will erase you and your agenda.
You wanna help your cause?
*Unqualified question.
Stop posting your nonsense.
*Unqualified advice, unless it is used to show your guilt.
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says ChildbirthSafer |
07 Aug 2006 06:26:11 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154986562.457170.219490@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
There is no "killing babies"
*Liar.
implied in an abortion. Stop lying.
******. A liar telling someone to stop lying?
So god is a child murderer seeing as around 50% of pregnancies end in
abortion?
Besides, your mere existence is doing more for abortion than you'll
ever know.
*actually, existence will erase you and your agenda.
You wanna help your cause?
*Unqualified question.
Stop posting your nonsense.
*Unqualified advice, unless it is used to show your guilt.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
08 Aug 2006 07:29:22 AM |
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"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44d7cc14$0$30326$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
Johnny wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154986562.457170.219490@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
youngopinions@aol.com schrieb:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer
for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
There is no "killing babies"
*Liar.
implied in an abortion. Stop lying.
******. A liar telling someone to stop lying?
So god is a child murderer seeing as around 50% of pregnancies end in
abortion?
Where is any evidence that God causes any miscarriage?
Besides, your mere existence is doing more for abortion than you'll
ever know.
*actually, existence will erase you and your agenda.
You wanna help your cause?
*Unqualified question.
Stop posting your nonsense.
*Unqualified advice, unless it is used to show your guilt.
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| User: "Lady Carrigaholt" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case SaysChildbirth Safer |
07 Aug 2006 09:00:12 PM |
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wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
We don't all subscribe to your faith's beliefs about when life begins.
--
Brightest Blessings;
Caillean; Lady Carrigaholt
I Who am the beauty of the green earth and the white moon among the stars and
the mysteries of the waters,
I call upon your soul to arise and come unto me.
For I am the soul of nature that gives life to the universe.
From Me all things proceed and unto Me they must return.
Let My worship be in the heart that rejoices, for behold, all acts of love and
pleasure are My rituals.
Let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility,
mirth and reverence within you.
And you who seek to know Me, know that the seeking and yearning will avail you
not, unless you know the Mystery: for if that which you seek, you find not
within yourself, you will never find it without.
For behold, I have been with you from the beginning, and I am That which is
attained at the end of desire
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
07 Aug 2006 01:03:07 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, youngopinions wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be
safer for both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to
reach fruition.
When considering the safety of abortion vs childbirth, it goes without
saying that it is the mother's safety being considered. OTOH, considering
the apparent stupidity of fuckwits like "youngopinions", perhaps it does
need saying.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
07 Aug 2006 06:17:43 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.07.18.03.06.22677@stopspam.net...
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, youngopinions wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be
safer for both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process
to
reach fruition.
When considering the safety of abortion vs childbirth, it goes without
saying that it is the mother's safety being considered.
Which shows discrimination.
OTOH,
You have no other hand.
considering the apparent stupidity of fuckwits like "youngopinions",
perhaps it does
need saying.
That you are a biased fool?
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| User: "Tak_a#344" |
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07 Aug 2006 09:43:16 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
Its amazing since you crosspost EVERYTHING that people dont treat you
like the crossposting troll you are.
alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,or.politics,seattle.politics
Oh COME ON, why are we all feeding this?
tak
a#344
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| User: "robpar" |
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08 Aug 2006 04:26:48 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:43:16 GMT, Tak_a#344
<not@anadressyouass.com> wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
Its amazing since you crosspost EVERYTHING that people dont treat you
like the crossposting troll you are.
alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,or.politics,seattle.politics
Oh COME ON, why are we all feeding this?
tak
a#344
Why do you insist on re posting all his post effectively by
passing those that have him kill filed.
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| User: "Tak_a#344" |
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08 Aug 2006 06:59:55 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:26:48 -0500, robpar <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
Oh COME ON, why are we all feeding this?
tak
a#344
Why do you insist on re posting all his post effectively by
passing those that have him kill filed.
Point taken.
Tak
a#344
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court Brief in Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Case Says Childbirth Safer |
08 Aug 2006 12:06:31 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:43:16 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
Its amazing since you crosspost EVERYTHING that people dont treat you
like the crossposting troll you are.
alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,or.politics,seattle.politics
Oh COME ON, why are we all feeding this?
You know no one will talk to him in real life. This is all he has. And
even here he needs to keep changing his names. Only the internet with
its millions gives him a hope of finding a handful of people similarly
deluded and childish enough to agree with him.
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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| User: "LC" |
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08 Aug 2006 01:41:03 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:43:16 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:04:32 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be
safer for both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process
to reach fruition.
Its amazing since you crosspost EVERYTHING that people dont treat you
like the crossposting troll you are.
alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,or.politics,seattle.politics
Oh COME ON, why are we all feeding this?
You know no one will talk to him in real life. This is all he has.
So...by responding we grant him a "mercy post"? <g>
Note the regularity of his flurry of trolls on Friday and Saturday evenings.
This is clearly a nutjob with no life and no friends.
And even here he needs to keep changing his names.
Ya think?:
From: "IBen Getiner" <lappcatt@hotmail.com>
From: "Rabbi Getiner" <oneproudjew@hotmail.com>
From: "Lord Howard Hertz" <lordhowardhertz@fastmail.fm>
From: "Auric Hellman" <adhellman@volcanomail.com>
From: "simon sez" <simonsez@volcanomail.com>
From: "son of simon" <sonofsimon@volcanomail.com>
From: "the other simon" <sonofsimon@volcanomail.com>
"the Professor" <university@volcanomail.com>
From: "LC ( lappcatt )" <LCisnot@bluebottle.com>
From: "Loose Cannon" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
From: (Loose Cannon)
From: "incredible J" <incredibleJ@bluebottle.com>
From: "the good Doctor"
From: "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
From: <superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Only the internet with its millions gives him a hope of finding a handful
of people similarly deluded and childish enough to agree with him.
And the majority of those in "agreement" are his own sockpuppets:
"Can anyone put to rest once and for all the rumors that John Lennon was
gay?"
From: (Jon Young)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Was Lennon gay?
Date: 28 Mar 2004 19:45:21 -0800
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0403281945.65e24ca7@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.163
"Let this one rest in peace. Don't ask, don't tell. That's my advice."
From: (IBen Getiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Was Lennon gay?
Date: 30 Mar 2004 02:14:45 -0800
Message-ID: <396a5984.0403300214.19d1ca6@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.163
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"Praise God! But you're WAAAAY off topic"
From: (IBen Getiner)
Newsgroups:
alt.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,alt.freemasonry,alt.prisons,alt.religion.voodoo
Subject: Re: Loose Cannon and Jesus: Together at last.
Date: 17 Mar 2004 22:18:18 -0800
Message-ID: <6ba61564.0403172218.7fb6df2a@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.202
"Bless you,Brother Iben. May the guidance of our Lord be with you always."
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
alt.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,alt.freemasonry,alt.prisons,alt.religion.voodoo
Subject: Re: Loose Cannon and Jesus: Together at last.
Date: 18 Mar 2004 07:48:24 -0800
Message-ID:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.202
LC~ Gives IBenJYo a B- for trolling, but a F for brains.
"I know nothing about Mr.Iben except for the fact that the jackass LC
imagines that he and I are one and the same.In fact,he has a whole
list of names he attributes to Mr.Getiner or myself.Personally,the few
posts of Iben Getiner that I have now read indicates a very
intelligent man who presents varifiable facts to present his side of
an issue.Also,how bad can a guy be who loves children and kittens."
From: (Jon Young)
Newsgroups:
alt.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,rec.music.beatles,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: A message to "loose cannons" supporters.
Date: 21 Apr 2004 21:31:53 -0700
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404212031.7cc86b04@posting.google.com>
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07 Aug 2006 11:28:38 AM |
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Yeah, we all know that lawyers know far more about medicine than doctors.
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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It's about time that some of the worst of the pro-abortion lies are
exposed
for what they are. Under no circumstances can killing a baby be safer for
both the baby and the mother, than allowing the birth-process to reach
fruition.
<snip>
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life law firm has filed a brief
with
the Supreme Court in the case concerning the Congressional-approved ban on
partial-birth abortions. The American Center for Law and Justice told the
court to reject the argument made by abortion advocates that abortion is
safer than childbirth.
<snip>
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| User: "Johnny" |
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07 Aug 2006 12:35:49 PM |
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"Baxter" <lbax02.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:12deqhpaeeut445@corp.supernews.com...
Yeah, we all know that lawyers know far more about medicine than doctors.
Why would anyone side with you with that sort of opinion?
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08 Aug 2006 01:00:09 AM |
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:28:38 -0700, Baxter wrote:
Yeah, we all know that lawyers know far more about medicine than doctors.
Of course they do. Didn't you notice The VideoTape Doctor Bill Frist as
he was assessing Terri Schiavo's condition?
:-)
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#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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