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12 Jun 2006 09:38:16 PM |
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Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/14802982.htm
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that a convicted
cop murderer will be allowed to challenge Florida's lethal injections as a
civil rights violation after his attorney argued that the condemned could be
suffering "excruciating pain" prior to death.
Clarence Hill, 48, was lying on a gurney with a needle inserted in his arm
inside Florida State Prison this past January when his attorney, Todd Doss,
gained a last-minute stay of execution to challenge the way the state's
lethal injections are administered.
In April before the Supreme Court, Doss argued that Hill should be allowed
to contest the lethal injection as a civil rights violation because the pain
inflicted during the procedure was a "cruel and unusual punishment."
Central to his case was a study by doctors at the University of Miami School
of Medicine. They studied autopsy results of the executed and found 43 of
the 49 dead prisoners had anesthesia levels lower than that required for
surgery. Twenty-one of those had concentrations consistent with awareness,
the study stated.
In some cases, the lethal injection drug protocols didn't even meet
veterinary standards, according to Teresa Zimmers, one of the doctors who
worked on the study. She said those accidentally injected with potassium
chloride, the lethal drug used in executions, described it as "feeling on
fire."
"If these inmates are inadequately anesthetized they are suffering an
extremely painful death," Zimmers said.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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14 Jun 2006 09:32:20 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate,
You're not pro-life. You're just a religious fanatic who hates
freedom.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
12 Jun 2006 10:14:04 PM |
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wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
Wow, you're a little bit scary... Christian, right? I could tell from
the "pro-life" mixed with the "throw them to the lions" bit.
Yeah, violent death as a spectator event is sure to end the death
penalty. It totally worked in not-so-ancient Rome, where I think it
was you crazy fuckers being fed to the lions.
GO LIONS!
This one's for you:
http://www.subversiveminds.com/gear/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 11:45:59 AM |
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In article <3PadnXpmFtCDuBPZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
Read history much?
-- cary
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| User: "" |
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13 Jun 2006 12:08:51 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:45:59 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <3PadnXpmFtCDuBPZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
Read history much?
Yeah the Coliseum was emptied with disgust when they fed the
Christians to the lions. Nobody showed up to watch the witches being
burned. Shoot from what I've read of Young, he'd be in the front line.
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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| User: "Attila2" |
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15 Jun 2006 02:35:43 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<3PadnXpmFtCDuBPZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More propagandizing spam from one of the usual sources.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 01:14:39 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion;
I.e.,"I'm not really opposed to the death penalty, but I want to claim
some moral high ground to cloak another sick idea of mine."
Typical young.
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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13 Jun 2006 10:32:34 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:14:39 -0700, wrote in
message <0tls82tsd95vn82afq978gtbo1brf33v9r@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion;
I.e.,"I'm not really opposed to the death penalty, but I want to claim
some moral high ground to cloak another sick idea of mine."
Typical young.
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
Based on my experience, the most virulent proponents of the death
penalty are often "pro life." Moreover, it is these "pro life" people
who want to restrict HPV vaccinations in spite of the fact that they
know it will kill kids not to. All in the name of "morality" and
"family values," of course.
The "pro life" people only care about foetuses and brain-dead
carcasses. They don't give a damn about anybody in between (except
for themselves, that is.)
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 05:49:18 PM |
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Boy Toy wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:14:39 -0700, wrote in
message <0tls82tsd95vn82afq978gtbo1brf33v9r@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion;
I.e.,"I'm not really opposed to the death penalty, but I want to claim
some moral high ground to cloak another sick idea of mine."
Typical young.
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
Based on my experience, the most virulent proponents of the death
penalty are often "pro life."
Well, *I* break your mold, I am pro choice and pro death penalty in some
cases.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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12 Jun 2006 10:34:40 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/14802982.htm
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that a convicted
cop murderer will be allowed to challenge Florida's lethal injections as a
civil rights violation after his attorney argued that the condemned could be
suffering "excruciating pain" prior to death.
Clarence Hill, 48, was lying on a gurney with a needle inserted in his arm
inside Florida State Prison this past January when his attorney, Todd Doss,
gained a last-minute stay of execution to challenge the way the state's
lethal injections are administered.
In April before the Supreme Court, Doss argued that Hill should be allowed
to contest the lethal injection as a civil rights violation because the pain
inflicted during the procedure was a "cruel and unusual punishment."
Central to his case was a study by doctors at the University of Miami School
of Medicine. They studied autopsy results of the executed and found 43 of
the 49 dead prisoners had anesthesia levels lower than that required for
surgery. Twenty-one of those had concentrations consistent with awareness,
the study stated.
In some cases, the lethal injection drug protocols didn't even meet
veterinary standards, according to Teresa Zimmers, one of the doctors who
worked on the study. She said those accidentally injected with potassium
chloride, the lethal drug used in executions, described it as "feeling on
fire."
"If these inmates are inadequately anesthetized they are suffering an
extremely painful death," Zimmers said.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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12 Jun 2006 11:22:08 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/14802982.htm
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that a convicted
cop murderer will be allowed to challenge Florida's lethal injections as a
civil rights violation after his attorney argued that the condemned could be
suffering "excruciating pain" prior to death.
Clarence Hill, 48, was lying on a gurney with a needle inserted in his arm
inside Florida State Prison this past January when his attorney, Todd Doss,
gained a last-minute stay of execution to challenge the way the state's
lethal injections are administered.
In April before the Supreme Court, Doss argued that Hill should be allowed
to contest the lethal injection as a civil rights violation because the pain
inflicted during the procedure was a "cruel and unusual punishment."
Central to his case was a study by doctors at the University of Miami School
of Medicine. They studied autopsy results of the executed and found 43 of
the 49 dead prisoners had anesthesia levels lower than that required for
surgery. Twenty-one of those had concentrations consistent with awareness,
the study stated.
In some cases, the lethal injection drug protocols didn't even meet
veterinary standards, according to Teresa Zimmers, one of the doctors who
worked on the study. She said those accidentally injected with potassium
chloride, the lethal drug used in executions, described it as "feeling on
fire."
"If these inmates are inadequately anesthetized they are suffering an
extremely painful death," Zimmers said.
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Vlad Dracul ." |
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13 Jun 2006 04:54:03 AM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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13 Jun 2006 10:26:59 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:03 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote in message
<128t2pqthm9on8e@corp.supernews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
They are required to use sterilized needles and to properly prep the
injection site with an alcohol swab. It's got something to do with
medical ethics, as the people who administer the anesthesia are
medical people.
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| User: "Vlad Dracul ." |
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13 Jun 2006 01:49:53 PM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:j6mt829q0rft15lsphkrai535g3sui3894@4ax.com...
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:03 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote in message
<128t2pqthm9on8e@corp.supernews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in
the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way
to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is
going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or
be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
They are required to use sterilized needles and to properly prep the
injection site with an alcohol swab. It's got something to do with
medical ethics, as the people who administer the anesthesia are
medical people.
That sounds like selective ethics to me, I thought a medical doctor has to
take Hippocratic Oath, which prohibits him from prescribing deadly or
harmful drugs. I question the ethics of doctors assisting in executions, as
well as the priests. Maybe some of them don't understand the difference
between Hippocratic and hypocritic.
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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13 Jun 2006 05:46:58 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:49:53 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote in message
<128u26fbii68j41@corp.supernews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:j6mt829q0rft15lsphkrai535g3sui3894@4ax.com...
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:03 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote in message
<128t2pqthm9on8e@corp.supernews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in
the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way
to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is
going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or
be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
They are required to use sterilized needles and to properly prep the
injection site with an alcohol swab. It's got something to do with
medical ethics, as the people who administer the anesthesia are
medical people.
That sounds like selective ethics to me, I thought a medical doctor has to
take Hippocratic Oath, which prohibits him from prescribing deadly or
harmful drugs. I question the ethics of doctors assisting in executions, as
well as the priests. Maybe some of them don't understand the difference
between Hippocratic and hypocritic.
The Hippocratic oath is no longer required (an interesting tidbit I
found out recently,) and some doctors have indeed refused to take part
in the anesthesia phase of the execution. The "fatal" part, which is
step 3, the administration of KCl, is apparently done by a prison
official.
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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13 Jun 2006 05:48:06 PM |
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Vlad Dracul wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:j6mt829q0rft15lsphkrai535g3sui3894@4ax.com...
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:03 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote in message
<128t2pqthm9on8e@corp.supernews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in
the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way
to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is
going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or
be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
They are required to use sterilized needles and to properly prep the
injection site with an alcohol swab. It's got something to do with
medical ethics, as the people who administer the anesthesia are
medical people.
That sounds like selective ethics to me, I thought a medical doctor has to
take Hippocratic Oath, which prohibits him from prescribing deadly or
harmful drugs. I question the ethics of doctors assisting in executions, as
well as the priests. Maybe some of them don't understand the difference
between Hippocratic and hypocritic.
Every one of the required procedures can legally be performed by an LVN.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "adrenochrome" |
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18 Jun 2006 01:07:55 PM |
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Boy Toy wrote...
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
They are required to use sterilized needles and to properly prep the
injection site with an alcohol swab. It's got something to do with
medical ethics, as the people who administer the anesthesia are
medical people.
They're not doctors, otherwise they couldn't participate because it would
violate the Hipocratic oath to do no harm. I do not see the logic of
trying to prevent an infection while you deliberately kill the patient.
BTW, this whole thing was engineered by the left as a challenge to the
death penalty. The rightist Supreme Court is allowing the challenge
because it should be easy to make lethal injection conform to the
no cruel punishment rule by switching drugs. The California challenge
is a bit trickier, as it involves a requirement that licensed
anesthesiologists be present to monitor the prisoner's brainwaves to
ensure he is fully unconscious. Since they are doctors who have taken
the Hipocratic oath to do no harm, they can not ethically participate
in the execution and therefore the execution cannot be carried out.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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13 Jun 2006 11:32:53 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:54:03 -0700, "Vlad Dracul" <.> wrote:
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:g3fs82hj5a2826akqc0pepjjpher4rl6g0@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going
to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
We don't want him to become addicted to lethal injections now, do we? Or be
stoned when he arrives at the pearly gates?
Does anyone know if they use sterilized needles? I've always wondered.
Yes, they do. That fact has been the butt of _many_ stand-up comics' jokes,
including the great Carlin. *chuckles*
"Before they give you a lethal injection, they swab your arm with alcohol.
(laughter) Well, they wouldn't want you to go to Hell, _and_ be sick." lol,
good stuff
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| User: "adrenochrome" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
18 Jun 2006 01:00:28 PM |
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Boy Toy wrote...
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
Battery acid? I'm not a chemist, but offhand I recall potassium
chloride being a salt, little different from the sodium chloride
that we use in all our food and even sold as a salt substitute
for about a buck at the supermarket. KCl is very bad if injected
directly into the bloodstream, as potassium ions play some
critical role in the heart muscle and an overdose induces heart
failure. That is due to its role as a chemical messenger and not
because it is caustic like battery acid.
The Supreme Court seems to have ruled that lethal injection is not
unconstitutional, but that the state has the obligation to prove
that it meets the standards of not being cruel. The three-drug
injection method doesn't make much sense, it is perfectly possible
to administer a large dose of a single one of a number of different
drugs that would literally put the person to sleep. An overdose of
anesthetic (which they claim is currently an insufficient dose to
prevent the pain of the other drugs) would do the trick, as would a
large dose of heroin or synthetic opiate. They do not use those
drugs because they are abusable as recreational drugs, and gawd
forbid the prisoner should be high while he dies.
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| User: "Martin" |
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13 Jun 2006 05:47:59 AM |
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Boy Toy wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid.
Hang on a sec...
I knew there was something wrong the fist time I read this and it's been
nagging my brain all morning.
KCl is nothing like battery acid, it's a salt.
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 10:24:43 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, Martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote
in message <448e975d$0$1235$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
Boy Toy wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid.
Hang on a sec...
I knew there was something wrong the fist time I read this and it's been
nagging my brain all morning.
KCl is nothing like battery acid, it's a salt.
Apparently it's very painful when injected. I didn't want to imply
KCl *is* an acid. KCl works by stopping the heart.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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13 Jun 2006 11:33:40 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, Martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Boy Toy wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid.
Hang on a sec...
I knew there was something wrong the fist time I read this and it's been
nagging my brain all morning.
KCl is nothing like battery acid, it's a salt.
I don't imagine injecting salt or battery acid would have _very_ different
effects (as far as "will this kill me?")--maybe he just meant it was as
harmful as.
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| User: "Adam H" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
12 Jun 2006 11:43:52 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:22:08 -0600, Boy Toy <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
in message
<bics82ta8pr35snikfdplkk07g4flc1u6c@fe06.highwinds-media.phx>
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
The third step in lethal injection protocol is Injection with KCl,
which is like injecting battery acid. That's why they are supposed to
administer proper (full) anesthesia in step two. What are they
worried about anyway? Are they afraid they'll OD the guy before they
kill him?
When animals are put down, they get a heavy overdose of anaesthetic
that stops autonomic nervous function (but there's no consciousness
left by then). Is there some reason why that's not usable on humans,
assuming that the DP is to be considered at all?
---
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
12 Jun 2006 11:08:14 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
That about sums it up for you.
ROFLMAO! XD
"I hate to disagree with you, but you are correct."
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 10:41:13 AM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:34:40 -0400, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:38:16 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty, due to my stance as a
pro-life advocate, I none-the-less have a suggestion; Be creative in the
methods and make all executions public. Lethal injection is a lame way to
go; throw him to the lions and televise it. If the death penalty is going to
be legal, people should be able to see it. Bet you it doesn't last long
after that, maybe a few years at most.
"Althought I absolutely oppose the death penalty, we should make it a
public entertainment spectacle."
It would make a great new reality show
Who will be the next American Executioner LOL
If they start whacking faggots I'll try out!!!
That about sums it up for you.
This about sums it up for YOU strife...
Always remember: :-)
"Some people deserve harassment" -homosexual Strife767
"Stop the spread of AIDS, sew up a queers *****"-Bob
"The MOST idiotic and loathsome bigots America has been infested
with since segregation became extinct".-Craig Chilton
"Personally, I would always protest war, even when I thought it was
necessary and unavoidable."-homosexual Eric Richardson
"Some people deserve harassment" -homosexual Strife767
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 11:36:03 AM |
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"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole333@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150213273.605551.200220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If they start whacking faggots I'll try out!!!
Ummm...please keep your sex life to yourself.
TIA
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 05:51:06 PM |
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LC wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole333@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150213273.605551.200220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If they start whacking faggots I'll try out!!!
Ummm...please keep your sex life to yourself.
TIA
bobIScarol doesn't have the requisite gray matter to earn an LVN the
most basic degree that is qualified to perform said procedures.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 06:14:37 PM |
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"Miriam Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:vjHjg.103787$iU2.60055@fed1read01...
LC wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole333@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150213273.605551.200220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If they start whacking faggots I'll try out!!!
Ummm...please keep your sex life to yourself.
TIA
bobIScarol doesn't have the requisite gray matter to earn an LVN the most
basic degree that is qualified to perform said procedures.
Well, it's not often that I resort to using my KF, but this troll is
particularly sub-moronic and worthy of a plonk.
Being *that* stupid is quite an accomplishment around here, considering the
stiff competition from Young, Ostrich, Duck and the like.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
13 Jun 2006 11:45:38 PM |
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LC wrote:
"Miriam Cohen" <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in message
news:vjHjg.103787$iU2.60055@fed1read01...
LC wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole333@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150213273.605551.200220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If they start whacking faggots I'll try out!!!
Ummm...please keep your sex life to yourself.
TIA
bobIScarol doesn't have the requisite gray matter to earn an LVN the most
basic degree that is qualified to perform said procedures.
Well, it's not often that I resort to using my KF, but this troll is
particularly sub-moronic and worthy of a plonk.
Being *that* stupid is quite an accomplishment around here, considering the
stiff competition from Young, Ostrich, Duck and the like.
I hear you, that *IS* quite an accomplishment! :)
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Supreme Court OKs challenge to lethal injection |
12 Jun 2006 10:14:00 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, youngopinions in episode
<3PadnXpmFtCDuBPZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com>...
Although I absolutely oppose the death penalty,
Oh please. As if you're fooling anybody.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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