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User: "Sam"
Date: 02 Jan 2004 06:49:31 PM
Object: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb
Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.
http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml
-Sam
http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html
.

User: "Dorothy"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 02 Jan 2004 10:46:26 PM
"Sam" <sa836284@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote in message
news:5b6a2e7d.0401021649.77d482f6@posting.google.com...

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html

Thank you for sharing this article with us. We help each other to keep up
to date with all of the incoming information.
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 01:35:10 AM
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
"Dorothy" <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

"Sam" <sa836284@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

No it wasn't, because there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb,
since ALL babies have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become*
if and when birth takes place... at the **moment* of birth.
But no big surprise. You are FAR from being the sharpest knife in
the drawer, and you prove that constantly. (And then you Anti-Choicers
wonder why you're America's National Laughingstock. LOL!!!!)

Thank you for sharing this article with us. We help each other to
keep up to date with all of the incoming information.

All of which is pure garbage. Very fitting for the warped
mentality of you two.
-- Craig Chilton

.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 05:30:40 AM
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
"Dorothy" <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

"Sam" <sa836284@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote:



Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.


No it wasn't, because there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb,
since ALL babies have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become*
if and when birth takes place... at the **moment* of birth.

But no big surprise. You are FAR from being the sharpest knife in
the drawer, and you prove that constantly. (And then you Anti-Choicers
wonder why you're America's National Laughingstock. LOL!!!!)

Thank you for sharing this article with us. We help each other to
keep up to date with all of the incoming information.


All of which is pure garbage. Very fitting for the warped
mentality of you two.


-- Craig Chilton


Craig,
You seem to have overlooked this scripture in your abortions for
Jesus campaign: Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife,
being great with child.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Adrian Miles-Davros"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 06:01:13 AM
"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0401030330.934108c@posting.google.com...

(Craig Chilton) wrote in message

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
"Dorothy" <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

"Sam" <sa836284@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote:



Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.


No it wasn't, because there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, > >

since ALL babies have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become* > > if
and when birth takes place... at the **moment* of birth.


But no big surprise. You are FAR from being the sharpest knife in >

the drawer, and you prove that constantly. (And then you Anti-Choicers >
wonder why you're America's National Laughingstock. LOL!!!!)


Thank you for sharing this article with us. We help each other to
keep up to date with all of the incoming information.


All of which is pure garbage. Very fitting for the warped
mentality of you two.


-- Craig Chilton



Craig,
You seem to have overlooked this scripture in your abortions for >

Jesus campaign: Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, > being
great with child.

Robert B. Winn

The use of the word "child" in this context as in the context of any
pregnancy till the birth actually occurs, can only be seen as an optimistic
anthropomorphization.
http://www.maggotpunks.com/special/2003-12-04.htm
I suggest you take a look at this link.
Adrian
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 07:00:47 AM
"Adrian Miles-Davros" <am_davros@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1073131270.87592.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0401030330.934108c@posting.google.com...

(Craig Chilton) wrote in message

news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
"Dorothy" <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

"Sam" <sa836284@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote:



Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.


No it wasn't, because there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, > >

since ALL babies have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become* > > if
and when birth takes place... at the **moment* of birth.


But no big surprise. You are FAR from being the sharpest knife in


the drawer, and you prove that constantly. (And then you Anti-Choicers


wonder why you're America's National Laughingstock. LOL!!!!)


Thank you for sharing this article with us. We help each other

to

keep up to date with all of the incoming information.


All of which is pure garbage. Very fitting for the warped
mentality of you two.


-- Craig Chilton



Craig,
You seem to have overlooked this scripture in your abortions for >

Jesus campaign: Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, >

being

great with child.

Robert B. Winn


The use of the word "child" in this context as in the context of any
pregnancy till the birth actually occurs, can only be seen as an

optimistic

anthropomorphization.

http://www.maggotpunks.com/special/2003-12-04.htm

I suggest you take a look at this link.

Adrian

Good article. Thanks.
--
"What's worse than a knee-jerk liberal? A kneepad conservative , that's
what, forever groveling before the rich and powerful"
--Edward Abbey
.


User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Fetus in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 04:14:14 PM
On 3 Jan 2004 03:30:40 -0800,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com>...
...spewed nothing but irrelevant tripe that he's bored us all with
many times before. Thus AGAIN making a total fool of himself.
-- Craig Chilton

.


User: "golddodgearies"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 07:57:28 AM
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies have been
**born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth takes place... at
the **moment* of birth.

Obviously they're babies. Non-humans don't become humans at birth, you
stupid lying murderer.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 01:39:17 PM
(golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0401030557.3b2daa9f@posting.google.com:

xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message
news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies
have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth
takes place... at the **moment* of birth.


Obviously they're babies. Non-humans don't become humans at birth,
you stupid lying murderer.

you previously admitted that abortion was not murder and that you
knowingly lied when you falsely accused another of murder
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.

User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 04:17:59 PM
On 3 Jan 2004 05:57:28 -0800,
"golddodgearies" <golddodgearies@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

[ ... ]

There has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies
have been **born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth
takes place... at the **moment* of birth.

Obviously they're babies.

No. OBVIOUSLY they are NOT. Except to ignoramuses like
you who are moronic enough to BE Anti-Choicers. *That* takes
**profound** ignorance.
-- Craig Chilton

.

User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 11:00:06 AM
On 3 Jan 2004 05:57:28 -0800,

(golddodgearies) wrote:

xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies have been
**born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth takes place... at
the **moment* of birth.


Obviously they're babies.

Only until they are born, obviously.
.

User: "Paul Anderson"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 09:37:36 AM
On 3 Jan 2004 05:57:28 -0800,

(golddodgearies) wrote:

xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies have been
**born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth takes place... at
the **moment* of birth.


Obviously they're babies. Non-humans don't become humans at birth, you
stupid lying murderer.

No one, other than Pro-Lifers, refer to a human fetus as non-human.
.
User: "Adrian Miles-Davros"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 12:04:32 PM
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e1a5.303890982@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 3 Jan 2004 05:57:28 -0800,


(golddodgearies) wrote:

xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message

news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...


{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies have

been

**born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth takes place...

at

the **moment* of birth.


Obviously they're babies. Non-humans don't become humans at birth, you >

stupid lying murderer.

No one, other than Pro-Lifers, refer to a human fetus as non-human.

With a wanted pregnancy the developing embryo is optimistically
anthropomorphized into the baby they expect at the end of the pregnancy,
which could go wrong for any one of a multitude of reasons.
All that happens in an unwanted pregnancy is that a much more realistic
approach to the developing foetus is adopted, and that feeling of eager
anticipation and anthropomorphization does not occur. Thus the women is able
to adopt a much more dispassionate approach to the foetus, and exercise her
right to choose whether or not she wants to carry it to term.
Thus the whole definition of the foetus as a baby is simply a sociologically
contrived term. The definition of a baby is below:-
Main Entry: 1ba·by
Pronunciation: 'bA-bE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural babies
Etymology: Middle English, from babe
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : an extremely young child; especially : INFANT (2) : an extremely
young animal b : the youngest of a group
2 a : one that is like a baby (as in behavior) b : something that is one's
special responsibility, achievement, or interest
3 slang a : GIRL, WOMAN -- often used in address b : BOY, MAN -- often used
in address
4 : PERSON, THING <is one tough baby>
- ba·by·hood /-bE-"hud/ noun
- ba·by·ish /-ish/ adjective
Where in that definition does it refer to womb?
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User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 08:04:13 AM
golddodgearies wrote:


xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3ff66ed5.4517928@netnews.mchsi.com>...

{...] there has never BEEN a baby in ANY womb, since ALL babies have been
**born**. It is what FETUSES *become* if and when birth takes place... at
the **moment* of birth.


Obviously they're babies. Non-humans don't become humans at birth, you
stupid lying murderer.

good 'refutation', retard.
.




User: "Paul Anderson"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 03 Jan 2004 09:36:06 AM
On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,
(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml

This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html

An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.
.
User: "Dorothy"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 04 Jan 2004 12:21:27 AM
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.

The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 04 Jan 2004 08:44:32 PM
Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.

New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.
.
User: "Dorothy"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 04 Jan 2004 11:33:56 PM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.

Same road, different names. Same human different names. Will you be
something different if I start calling you Abner?
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 08:45:35 AM
Dorothy wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.


Same road, different names.

NOT the same state.

Same human different names.

NOT the same state

Will you be something different if I start calling you Abner?

A state of disbelief.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 05:27:57 AM
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.
.
User: "golddodgearies"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 05:31:06 PM
wrote in message news:<9af9f5c5.0401050327.6ffe924c@posting.google.com>...

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.

To be sure, 'pro-choice' advocates are a mixed-bag of retards,
deranged, pathological liars, and intransigent, hard-core, baby
murderers. Most of them maintain that unborn children are non-humans
until sometime before birth (the really hard-core murderers among them
maintain that they're non-humans until birth). Not only are their lies
and delusional fantasies obviously false (afterall, even ten year-olds
know that non-humans don't have human parents and unborn children do),
but because ontogeny obviously doesn't recapitulate phylogeny (in the
first instance), and birth is not a mechanism of evolution (in the
second instance), except, perhaps, in the hallucinatory, delusional,
and pathologically warped and lying little 'minds' of vicious,
degenerate, 'pro-choice' baby murderers.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 06:39:15 PM
(golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0401051531.54d1b28b@posting.google.com:

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:<9af9f5c5.0401050327.6ffe924c@posting.google.com>...

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


To be sure, 'pro-choice' advocates are a mixed-bag of retards,
deranged, pathological liars, and intransigent, hard-core, baby
murderers. Most of them maintain that unborn children are non-humans
until sometime before birth (the really hard-core murderers among them
maintain that they're non-humans until birth). Not only are their lies
and delusional fantasies obviously false (afterall, even ten year-olds
know that non-humans don't have human parents and unborn children do),
but because ontogeny obviously doesn't recapitulate phylogeny (in the
first instance), and birth is not a mechanism of evolution (in the
second instance), except, perhaps, in the hallucinatory, delusional,
and pathologically warped and lying little 'minds' of vicious,
degenerate, 'pro-choice' baby murderers.

you seem petulant because you are viewed with such disrespect.
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.
User: "golddodgearies"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 06 Jan 2004 01:44:16 AM
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9467C7E87F75Ekeegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>...

golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0401051531.54d1b28b@posting.google.com:

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:<9af9f5c5.0401050327.6ffe924c@posting.google.com>...

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


To be sure, 'pro-choice' advocates are a mixed-bag of retards,
deranged, pathological liars, and intransigent, hard-core, baby
murderers. Most of them maintain that unborn children are non-humans
until sometime before birth (the really hard-core murderers among them
maintain that they're non-humans until birth). Not only are their lies
and delusional fantasies obviously false (afterall, even ten year-olds
know that non-humans don't have human parents and unborn children do),
but because ontogeny obviously doesn't recapitulate phylogeny (in the
first instance), and birth is not a mechanism of evolution (in the
second instance), except, perhaps, in the hallucinatory, delusional,
and pathologically warped and lying little 'minds' of vicious,
degenerate, 'pro-choice' baby murderers.


you seem petulant because you are viewed with such disrespect.

Gosh your 'arguments' are good, you stupid lying murderer.
.
User: "REP"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 06 Jan 2004 02:41:48 AM
In article <44e87bc2.0401052344.2c26e426@posting.google.com>,
(golddodgearies) wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9467C7E87F75Ekeegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>...

(golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0401051531.54d1b28b@posting.google.com:

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:<9af9f5c5.0401050327.6ffe924c@posting.google.com>...

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


To be sure, 'pro-choice' advocates are a mixed-bag of retards,
deranged, pathological liars, and intransigent, hard-core, baby
murderers. Most of them maintain that unborn children are non-humans
until sometime before birth (the really hard-core murderers among them
maintain that they're non-humans until birth). Not only are their lies
and delusional fantasies obviously false (afterall, even ten year-olds
know that non-humans don't have human parents and unborn children do),
but because ontogeny obviously doesn't recapitulate phylogeny (in the
first instance), and birth is not a mechanism of evolution (in the
second instance), except, perhaps, in the hallucinatory, delusional,
and pathologically warped and lying little 'minds' of vicious,
degenerate, 'pro-choice' baby murderers.


you seem petulant because you are viewed with such disrespect.


Gosh your 'arguments' are good, you stupid lying murderer.

Funniest post this year!1!
--
"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 06 Jan 2004 06:11:28 PM
[posted and mailed]
REP <rep@inanna.com> wrote in
news:btdse0$619lg$1@ID-180048.news.uni-berlin.de:

In article <44e87bc2.0401052344.2c26e426@posting.google.com>,
golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9467C7E87F75Ekeegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>...

golddodgearies@yahoo.com (golddodgearies) wrote in
news:44e87bc2.0401051531.54d1b28b@posting.google.com:

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:<9af9f5c5.0401050327.6ffe924c@posting.google.com>...

But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


To be sure, 'pro-choice' advocates are a mixed-bag of retards,
deranged, pathological liars, and intransigent, hard-core, baby
murderers. Most of them maintain that unborn children are
non-humans until sometime before birth (the really hard-core
murderers among them maintain that they're non-humans until birth).
Not only are their lies and delusional fantasies obviously false
(afterall, even ten year-olds know that non-humans don't have human
parents and unborn children do), but because ontogeny obviously
doesn't recapitulate phylogeny (in the first instance), and birth
is not a mechanism of evolution (in the second instance), except,
perhaps, in the hallucinatory, delusional, and pathologically
warped and lying little 'minds' of vicious, degenerate,
'pro-choice' baby murderers.


you seem petulant because you are viewed with such disrespect.


Gosh your 'arguments' are good, you stupid lying murderer.


Funniest post this year!1!

don't i get any credit for sucking him in? i suppose you think i'm not
special just because he calls dozens of people "stupid lying murderer."
but he hasn't called you that yet.
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.





User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 08:42:33 AM
wrote:


Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam) wrote:

Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again points
out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of the
fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side. Abracadabra.
Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.


But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.

Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both NY
and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.
.
User: "Dorothy"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 11:19:23 AM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF97802.BFC3141@citlink.net...

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote:


Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message

news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam)

wrote:


Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again

points

out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of

the

fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side.

Abracadabra.

Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.


But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both NY
and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.

OK Abner, you seem to believe that a person changes name when going over a
state line. On one side the road is New Jersey and on the other side New
York. In the womb foetus. Out of the womb, baby. On your side of the
connection, Frank. On this side you are renamed Abner. This is so much
fun. Depending on where your statements are read, you can be renamed many,
many times.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 09:45:33 PM
Dorothy <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message

Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both NY
and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.


OK Abner, you seem to believe that a person changes name when going over a
state line.

Nobody made such a claim.

On one side the road is New Jersey and on the other side New
York.

Or Canada on one side and the United States on the other.

In the womb foetus. Out of the womb, baby.

South side citizen, north side alien.
It's not hard. All you have todo is accept the facts and not try to
twist them to fit your religion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 12:13:14 PM
Dorothy wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF97802.BFC3141@citlink.net...

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote:


Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message

news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,

(Sam)

wrote:


Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again

points

out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo of

the

fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite consistent in
refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby for
those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim it is
about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side.

Abracadabra.

Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional passages.


But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both NY
and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.


OK Abner, you seem to believe that a person changes name when going over a
state line.

No... they change states.

On one side the road is New Jersey and on the other side New
York. In the womb foetus. Out of the womb, baby.

Precisely

On your side of the connection, Frank. On this side you are renamed Abner. This is so much
fun. Depending on where your statements are read, you can be renamed many,
many times.

.
User: "Dorothy"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 01:15:36 PM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF9A966.2D792F19@citlink.net...

Dorothy wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF97802.BFC3141@citlink.net...

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote:


Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message

news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,


(Sam)

wrote:


Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again

points

out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo

of

the

fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite

consistent in

refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby

for

those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim

it is

about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of

hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side.

Abracadabra.

Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional

passages.


But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both

NY

and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.


OK Abner, you seem to believe that a person changes name when going over

a

state line.


No... they change states.

On one side the road is New Jersey and on the other side New
York. In the womb foetus. Out of the womb, baby.


Precisely

On your side of the connection, Frank. On this side you are renamed

Abner. This is so much

fun. Depending on where your statements are read, you can be renamed

many,

many times.

New post. You are now renamed Cletus.
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Surgery on a Baby in the Womb 05 Jan 2004 04:14:11 PM
Dorothy wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF9A966.2D792F19@citlink.net...

Dorothy wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FF97802.BFC3141@citlink.net...

someone462000@yahoo.com wrote:


Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message

news:<3FF8CFBD.EE973111@citlink.net>...

Dorothy wrote:


"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:3ff6e073.303585222@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...

On 2 Jan 2004 16:49:31 -0800,


(Sam)

wrote:


Here is an article about surgery of babies in the womb.

http://www.tennessean.com/sii/00/01/09/vandyfetal09.shtml


This article is from a newspaper and is quite good. It again

points

out that pro-lifers lie about what was happening in the photo

of

the

fetal hand on the doctor's finger. It is also quite

consistent in

refering to what is in the womb as a fetus and reserving baby

for

those that have survived birth. Thus you lie when you claim

it is

about surgery on babies.

-Sam

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/thennow.html


An advertisement -- with the associated expectation of

hyperbole.


The Magic Tunnel crowd speaks again. Foetus on one side.

Abracadabra.

Baby on the other.


New Jersey on one side. Abracadabra. New York on the other.
There is no magic in tunnels... they are merely transitional

passages.


But proaborts claim that New Jersey turned into New York by going
through the tunnel.


Using that line of thinking, anti-choicers claim that you're in both

NY

and NJ at the same time and there is no difference between the two.


OK Abner, you seem to believe that a person changes name when going over

a

state line.


No... they change states.

On one side the road is New Jersey and on the other side New
York. In the womb foetus. Out of the womb, baby.


Precisely

On your side of the connection, Frank. On this side you are renamed

Abner. This is so much

fun. Depending on where your statements are read, you can be renamed

many,

many times.


New post. You are now renamed Cletus.

Good for you. Let me know when you finally get to 4th grade.
.










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