Science > Abortion > Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John Kerry?
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"Gactimus" |
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20 Aug 2004 10:12:15 PM |
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Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John Kerry? |
The New Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad is out and believe it or not, it's
even more devastating than the first one.
Kerry is calling on Bush to condemn the ads, sending out legal threats to
stations that play it, filing an FEC complaint, calling on the publisher to
withdraw the book, complaining that Republicans gave the group
money....everything but actually responding in any sort of substantial way
to the myriad of claims these very credible veterans and war heroes who knew
John Kerry are making.
It's becoming very apparent that the reason John Kerry has been unable to
refute what they're saying is because they're telling the truth. The media
has spent a lot of time focusing on the weakest accusation that the Swiftees
have made, that John Kerry lied to get his Bronze Star (however, I would
note that Larry Thurlow is only one out of four eye witnesses who say John
Kerry was not under fire when came back and pulled Jim Rassman from the
water after running away and leaving behind in the first place).
However, Kerry been already been caught in a lie about going to Cambodia and
in my personal opinion, it looks to be almost a certainty that John Kerry
gamed the system and lied to acquire his first and third Purple Hearts.
That's the type of thing that sinks a run at the presidency and as a matter
of fact, had these accusations come out before John Kerry was the nominee,
he WOULDN'T BE the nominee today. Of course, that's the biggest think John
Kerry has going for him in this situation -- that the Democrats and the
mainstream media are stuck with him at this point and so they'll have to
desperately defend him no matter how much truth there is to the charges.
But unfortunately for John Kerry, I don't think that's going to be enough.
Kerry is not going to be able to ignore or censor the Swift Boat Vets for
Truth, smearing them isn't going to be all that effective not only because
they're vets and war heroes, but because there are just SO JUST SO MANY OF
THEM making charges. Do you think that anybody other than partisan liberals
(Including some of Kerry's allies in the mainstream media) are going to buy
that all of these war heroes and vets who knew John Kerry got together and
decided to lie through their teeth all in an effort to smear a guy they
fought beside of in combat? If there were a handful of guys involved, sure,
you'd have to consider that possibility. But who really believes that one of
John Kerry's crew members, his doctor, every commanding officer he ever had,
& large numbers of soldiers who fought by Kerry's side in other boats along
with officers who served with JFK, all are participating in some sort of
bizarre conspiracy to sink Kerry's run at the presidency? Come on, that's
like something out of the "X-Files," it's just not possible.
So, unless Kerry can actually respond to the Swiftees actual charges
effectively, something he has not even STARTED to do at this point, I think
the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, all by themselves, are going to finish
him. If Kerry's telling the truth about his war record -- which I don't
think he is -- he'd be smart to sign a 180 form so his records can be
released and then he'd try to directly refute these charges. Make no mistake
about it, this is a make or break issue for the Kerry campaign and it's
looking increasingly likely that it's going to be break...
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John Kerry? |
22 Aug 2004 11:06:59 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
The New Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad is out and believe it or not, it's
even more devastating than the first one.
These ads that do little but lie are going to destroy Bush by portraying
Bush as an immoral slanderer.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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22 Aug 2004 03:06:48 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cgagb2$g9p$1@bolt.sonic.net...
These ads that do little but lie are going to destroy Bush by portraying
Bush as an immoral slanderer.
Why would that be? Bush has nothing to do with those ads.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:11:24 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
These ads that do little but lie are going to destroy Bush by
portraying Bush as an immoral slanderer.
Why would that be? Bush has nothing to do with those ads.
Actually, you might have missed some of the better humor there, not that
the drone's misunderstanding isn't amusing.
What he's apparently referring to is the way the manipulable Bush-hating
drones are going to react. He thinks some of them had intended to vote
for Bush, once again reminding us that cretins are very entertaining
people.
The Democrats need to try to let the Vietnam debate fade away
completely, now that most of the Swift Boat people are debunking the
"Kerry as War Hero" story.
Try to imagine how the Democrats would be squealing and bouncing off the
walls if a Republican candidate tried to use Vietnam combat experience
to get votes. They'd be rallying millions of ignorant kids, having them
skip classes to march in the streets with all the Political Science
professors in the van.
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:19:04 PM |
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"John Griffin" <thathillbilly@yahooie.com> wrote in message
news:Xns954D9A850B53thathillbillyyahooco@130.133.1.4...
The Democrats need to try to let the Vietnam debate fade away
completely, now that most of the Swift Boat people are debunking the
"Kerry as War Hero" story.
Can they afford to do that? If they do, the discussion might shift to
Kerry's record.
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| User: "John Griffin" |
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23 Aug 2004 01:36:27 AM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
"John Griffin" <thathillbilly@yahooie.com> wrote
The Democrats need to try to let the Vietnam debate fade away
completely, now that most of the Swift Boat people are debunking the
"Kerry as War Hero" story.
Can they afford to do that? If they do, the discussion might shift to
Kerry's record.
Whatever they do, all they can accomplish with the war hero stuff is
create the laughable situation in which liberals are suddenly spitting
and shitting adulation for Viet Nam veterans. Independents are thinking
"What's the big deal? He lied about some medals, but he has lots of sea
stories. So what?"
I noticed a couple of replies to your implication that the Democrats
don't want to talk about Kerry's record. They were just some warmed over
comments about George Bush's record. That was so funny that I thought
they were spoofing. When your argument against something is just an
example of it, you have to be kidding. That's what I thought at first,
but then I noticed they were some of the pure-reflex posters.
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| User: "David Galehouse" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:32:53 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:sZ8Wc.800$Y%3.65@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"John Griffin" <thathillbilly@yahooie.com> wrote in message
news:Xns954D9A850B53thathillbillyyahooco@130.133.1.4...
The Democrats need to try to let the Vietnam debate fade away
completely, now that most of the Swift Boat people are debunking the
"Kerry as War Hero" story.
Can they afford to do that? If they do, the discussion might shift to
Kerry's record.
It'll just clear the way to talk more about Bush's abysmal record. Bring it
on!
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:46:25 PM |
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"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pa9Wc.32925$cT6.26677@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
It'll just clear the way to talk more about Bush's abysmal record. Bring
it
on!
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
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| User: "David Galehouse" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:47:07 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5n9Wc.817$Y%3.495@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pa9Wc.32925$cT6.26677@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
It'll just clear the way to talk more about Bush's abysmal record. Bring
it
on!
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
Did you remember to blow a raspberry after you said that?
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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22 Aug 2004 06:03:05 PM |
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"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ln9Wc.32931$cT6.12342@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
Did you remember to blow a raspberry after you said that?
Why would I do that?
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| User: "David Fritzinger" |
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22 Aug 2004 06:50:25 PM |
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In article <5n9Wc.817$Y%3.495@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pa9Wc.32925$cT6.26677@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
It'll just clear the way to talk more about Bush's abysmal record. Bring
it
on!
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
Huge national debt, because of tax cuts for the rich. The idiocy of the
Iraqi war. No strategy to win the "peace" after we beat Saddam. Going
after Saddam instead of finishing off OBL and al Qaeda. An economic
"recovery" that isn't really helping many people, since most of the new
jobs being created are at lower wages than the jobs lost. And, that is
just a starter.
Yeah, I would say Bush has a pretty abysmal record.
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Dave Fritzinger
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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23 Aug 2004 12:54:17 PM |
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"David Fritzinger" <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:dfritzinnospam-3F5394.13503322082004@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com...
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
Huge national debt, because of tax cuts for the rich. The idiocy of the
Iraqi war. No strategy to win the "peace" after we beat Saddam. Going
after Saddam instead of finishing off OBL and al Qaeda. An economic
"recovery" that isn't really helping many people, since most of the new
jobs being created are at lower wages than the jobs lost. And, that is
just a starter.
Yeah, I would say Bush has a pretty abysmal record.
That's because you don't understand economics, government, foreign policy,
etc.
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| User: "David Fritzinger" |
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23 Aug 2004 06:30:31 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dbqWc.1504$Y%3.551@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"David Fritzinger" <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:dfritzinnospam-3F5394.13503322082004@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com...
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
Huge national debt, because of tax cuts for the rich. The idiocy of the
Iraqi war. No strategy to win the "peace" after we beat Saddam. Going
after Saddam instead of finishing off OBL and al Qaeda. An economic
"recovery" that isn't really helping many people, since most of the new
jobs being created are at lower wages than the jobs lost. And, that is
just a starter.
Yeah, I would say Bush has a pretty abysmal record.
That's because you don't understand economics, government, foreign policy,
etc.
You were looking in a mirror when you said that, right? You had to have been.
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Dave Fritzinger
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| User: "forge" |
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24 Aug 2004 12:27:42 AM |
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In article <dbqWc.1504$Y%3.551@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
Huge national debt, because of tax cuts for the rich. The idiocy of the
Iraqi war. No strategy to win the "peace" after we beat Saddam. Going
after Saddam instead of finishing off OBL and al Qaeda. An economic
"recovery" that isn't really helping many people, since most of the new
jobs being created are at lower wages than the jobs lost. And, that is
just a starter.
Yeah, I would say Bush has a pretty abysmal record.
That's because you don't understand economics, government, foreign policy,
etc.
PFAH!!! What utter bullcrap bluster. Tell us Steven, since obviously you
DO understand economics, government, and foreign policy, how is (for
example) making a halfassed attempt at bin Laden in Afghanistan, then
pulling out of there and heading into Iraq, which it is clear was never
any threat to us and it is clear never had jack to do with 9/11, good
foreign policy?
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| User: "jenn" |
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23 Aug 2004 01:42:36 PM |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"David Fritzinger" <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in message
news:dfritzinnospam-3F5394.13503322082004@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com...
Bush does not have an abysmal record.
Huge national debt, because of tax cuts for the rich. The idiocy of the
Iraqi war. No strategy to win the "peace" after we beat Saddam. Going
after Saddam instead of finishing off OBL and al Qaeda. An economic
"recovery" that isn't really helping many people, since most of the new
jobs being created are at lower wages than the jobs lost. And, that is
just a starter.
Yeah, I would say Bush has a pretty abysmal record.
That's because you don't understand economics, government, foreign policy,
etc.
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe -- that gonna smoke em out -
gonna gittem etc is not the same as actually doing the job -- Osama had
3 years to regroup and organize all over the world while we alienated
our allies and abandoned the war on al Qaida
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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23 Aug 2004 02:01:35 PM |
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"jenn" <jenn@hmplce.com> wrote in message
news:cgddps$681$2@news.vanderbilt.edu...
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
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| User: "David Fritzinger" |
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23 Aug 2004 06:23:11 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<jarWc.1557$Y%3.808@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"jenn" <jenn@hmplce.com> wrote in message
news:cgddps$681$2@news.vanderbilt.edu...
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
You seem to be very good at making statements like the above, but not
so good at backing them up. Why?
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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23 Aug 2004 06:26:06 PM |
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"David Fritzinger" <dfritzin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b82925bb.0408231523.23c1fd2b@posting.google.com...
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<jarWc.1557$Y%3.808@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"jenn" <jenn@hmplce.com> wrote in message
news:cgddps$681$2@news.vanderbilt.edu...
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
You seem to be very good at making statements like the above, but not
so good at backing them up. Why?
I can back up every statement I make.
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| User: "forge" |
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24 Aug 2004 12:28:50 AM |
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In article <i2vWc.1847$Y%3.274@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
You seem to be very good at making statements like the above, but not
so good at backing them up. Why?
I can back up every statement I make.
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, BE OUR FUCKING GUEST THEN!!!!
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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24 Aug 2004 02:15:15 PM |
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"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-4102AD.01285024082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <i2vWc.1847$Y%3.274@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight
a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
You seem to be very good at making statements like the above, but not
so good at backing them up. Why?
I can back up every statement I make.
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, BE OUR FUCKING GUEST THEN!!!!
Happy to. Which statement?
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| User: "forge" |
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25 Aug 2004 06:59:38 AM |
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In article <7tMWc.2659$Y%3.409@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
I can back up every statement I make.
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, BE OUR FUCKING GUEST THEN!!!!
Happy to. Which statement?
Why, every one, of course, like it says up there ^^^
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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25 Aug 2004 03:14:58 PM |
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"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-530D69.07593825082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <7tMWc.2659$Y%3.409@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
I can back up every statement I make.
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, BE OUR FUCKING GUEST THEN!!!!
Happy to. Which statement?
Why, every one, of course, like it says up there ^^^
You'll have to be specific. Many of the statements are common knowledge and
thus wouldn't ordinarily require any supporting documentation.
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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24 Aug 2004 05:45:55 PM |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-4102AD.01285024082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <i2vWc.1847$Y%3.274@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight
a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
You seem to be very good at making statements like the above, but not
so good at backing them up. Why?
I can back up every statement I make.
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, BE OUR FUCKING GUEST THEN!!!!
Happy to. Which statement?
It still amazes me how some people start getting shrill.
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The Golden Years Sux.
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| User: "forge" |
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24 Aug 2004 12:28:17 AM |
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In article <jarWc.1557$Y%3.808@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
Uh.
Huh?
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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24 Aug 2004 02:14:13 PM |
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"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-4F1D72.01281724082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <jarWc.1557$Y%3.808@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
Uh.
Huh?
What part did you not understand?
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| User: "forge" |
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25 Aug 2004 07:01:19 AM |
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In article <9sMWc.2658$Y%3.253@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
Uh.
Huh?
What part did you not understand?
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven to
most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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26 Aug 2004 12:01:21 PM |
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"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-566966.08011925082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <9sMWc.2658$Y%3.253@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to fight
a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
Uh.
Huh?
What part did you not understand?
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven to
most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
We haven't done that.
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| User: "BOB SD" |
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26 Aug 2004 12:37:22 PM |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in
news:BHoXc.4571$Y%3.2166@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-566966.08011925082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <9sMWc.2658$Y%3.253@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
we understand that turning his back on terrorism in order to
fight
a
vanity war in Iraq has made us less safe --
But what you don't understand is that did not happen.
Uh.
Huh?
What part did you not understand?
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven
to most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
We haven't done that.
You are right. "We" haven't but the Bush regime has.
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| User: "forge" |
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26 Aug 2004 10:54:38 PM |
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In article <BHoXc.4571$Y%3.2166@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven to
most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
We haven't done that.
Proof by assertion again?
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| User: "Steven P. McNicoll" |
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26 Aug 2004 11:13:18 PM |
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"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-8FA577.23543826082004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <BHoXc.4571$Y%3.2166@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven
to
most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
We haven't done that.
Proof by assertion again?
Are you asking me to prove a negative?
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| User: "forge" |
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| Title: Re: Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John Kerry? |
27 Aug 2004 01:08:01 AM |
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In article <yxyXc.5126$Y%3.2685@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
Illuminate us please, how we aren't "less safe" now that we've proven
to
most of the entire Muslim world what warmongering fools we are.
We haven't done that.
Proof by assertion again?
Are you asking me to prove a negative?
I said we've proven to most of the Muslim world that we're warmongering
fools; you said we haven't. I'm supposed to just go on what you say as
truth?
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