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Topic:	Science > Abortion
User:	"J Young"
Date:	07 May 2007 11:47:20 PM
Object:	Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men

I have often been unjustly criticized for encouraging homos to lead a
chaste life; that I should remain silent while these men and women
besmirch their dignity as well as their health. Well, look who was
right again. Had they listened to me, gays would be living longer,
healthier lives. That's what being pro-life is all about, living
longer. Now who's the bigot?
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-05-04T170053Z_01_N04373052_RTRUKOC_0_US-SYPHILIS-USA.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Syphilis has risen sharply among gay and
bisexual men in the United States this decade, driving up the
country's rate for the disease and placing these men at higher risk
for AIDS, federal health officials say.
Since dropping to the lowest level on record in 2000, the U.S. rate of
syphilis, a sexually transmitted bacterial disease, has risen
steadily, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said on
Friday.
The rate rose five years in a row through 2005, the most recent year
for which the CDC had figures.
Gay and bisexual men accounted for 7 percent of syphilis cases in 2000
but more than 60 percent in 2005, CDC experts estimated.
"The most devastating consequence of this increase in syphilis cases
would be an increase in the rates of HIV infection," said Dr. Khalil
Ghanem of Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore.
"Syphilis and HIV have a close, deadly symbiotic relationship."
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 01:17:43 AM

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

I have often been unjustly criticized

No, you've been justly criticized for being an anti-semitic,
anti-muslim, racist, neonazi.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "No One"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 12:10:41 AM

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims
After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100,000
people in 2000.
But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 cases,
the CDC said.
In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.
So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?
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User: "John Baker"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 01:45:28 AM

On 07 May 2007 22:10:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims

After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100,000
people in 2000.

But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 cases,
the CDC said.

In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.

So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?

Young doesn't want people to make good decisions. He wants them to
make decisions based on his bigoted, ignorant worldview.
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User: "J Young"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 11:46:11 AM

On May 8, 2:45=EF=BF=BDam, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:

On 07 May 2007 22:10:41 -0700, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:

J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=3DdomesticNews&stor=

..=2E.

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100=

,000

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0people in 2000.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 c=

ases,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the CDC said.

In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.

So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? =A0If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?

Young doesn't want people to make good decisions. He wants them to
make decisions based on his bigoted, ignorant worldview.-

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User: "osprey"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 05:50:09 AM

On May 8, 1:10 am, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&stor...

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims

After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100,000
people in 2000.

But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 cases,
the CDC said.

In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.

So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?

I'm sure you are totally prepared to show how Bush and/or Clinton is
linked to the rise and/or fall on the numbers. Studies perhaps???
After all, you appear to be saying that the president is linked to the
rise and/or fall in the numbers of those get these diseases.
This should be interesting to watch.
.

User: "No One"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 11:46:23 AM

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

On May 8, 1:10 am, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&stor...

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims

After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100,000
people in 2000.

But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 cases,
the CDC said.

In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.

So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?

I'm sure you are totally prepared to show how Bush and/or Clinton is
linked to the rise and/or fall on the numbers. Studies perhaps???

After all, you appear to be saying that the president is linked to the
rise and/or fall in the numbers of those get these diseases.

If I were saying that, I wouldn't have used the phrase "don't you think
it is curious" and would have stated it as a fact.

This should be interesting to watch.

Surely you've read the news reports recently that showed that "abstinence
only" "sex education" simply doesn't work. A quick google search
turned up <http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/abonlyreports.htm> and
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301003.html>.
You provide ineffective sex education, and what do you think will
happen? That, of course, assumes you think at all, which in your
particular case, given your track record on these newsgroups, is
doubtful.
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User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 11:51:53 AM

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:874pmns1m1.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

On May 8, 1:10 am, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&stor...

*You* are the bigot. The article also claims

After reaching 50,000 cases and a rate of 20.3 cases per
100,000 people in 1990 - the highest since 1949 - public
health efforts helped drive down the rate to 2.1 per 100,000
people in 2000.

But the rate rose to 3 per 100,000 in 2005, with 8,724 cases,
the CDC said.

In other words, the rate is still historically very low and public
health officials are trying to do the sensible thing and make sure
it stays low.

So, why didn't you mention the actual numbers? Also, don't you think
it is curious that the rate went down during the Clinton administration
and went up in the sexually-repressed "abstinance ueber alles" Bush
administration? If you hide critical information from people, how do
you expect them to make good decisions?

I'm sure you are totally prepared to show how Bush and/or Clinton is
linked to the rise and/or fall on the numbers. Studies perhaps???

After all, you appear to be saying that the president is linked to the
rise and/or fall in the numbers of those get these diseases.

If I were saying that, I wouldn't have used the phrase "don't you think
it is curious" and would have stated it as a fact.

Well, one fact is certain. You're never "clear" on what you are saying
because you don't want to have to support or justify any statement you might
make.
Then again, I haven't met a liberal yet who is "clear" on what he or she is
saying. So this comes as no surprise.

This should be interesting to watch.

Surely you've read the news reports recently that showed that "abstinence
only" "sex education" simply doesn't work.

Yea and? I support all methods being taught, including ABSTINENCE...it's the
liberals who have a problem with abstinence.
Not really interested in anything else you have to say, you will just assume
some more, make another vague comment, or some unsupported nonsense.
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User: "No One"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 12:46:55 PM

"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:874pmns1m1.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
If I were saying that, I wouldn't have used the phrase "don't you think
it is curious" and would have stated it as a fact.

Well, one fact is certain. You're never "clear" on what you are saying
because you don't want to have to support or justify any statement you
might make.

Then again, I haven't met a liberal yet who is "clear" on what he or
she is saying. So this comes as no surprise.

Osprey, you inability to read and understand simple English is your
problem, not mine.

This should be interesting to watch.

Surely you've read the news reports recently that showed that "abstinence
only" "sex education" simply doesn't work.

Yea and? I support all methods being taught, including
ABSTINENCE...it's the liberals who have a problem with abstinence.

Not really interested in anything else you have to say, you will just
assume some more, make another vague comment, or some unsupported
nonsense.

And as is typical with you, you snipped the URLs backing up what I
said. And you wonder why everyone thinks you are dishonest?
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User: "Tockk"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 12:50:33 AM

Some folks are going to gloat that some gay people die horrible deaths.
The rest of us will mourn the loss of close friends and family.
Still, I wish more of my gay friends would let their big head do the
thinking for thier little head, and not vice-versa. But we're all human,
and we all know what it's like to be young and in love, and sexually active.
Part of being human is having sex. It's unreasonable to expect people to
give that up. Nevertheless, there's a very real danger of unsafe sex.
Persuading people to avoid unsafe sex is what good folks should be doing
here. Not gloating, not arguing.

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User: "No One"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 11:36:16 AM

"Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> writes:

Some folks are going to gloat that some gay people die horrible deaths.
The rest of us will mourn the loss of close friends and family.

Still, I wish more of my gay friends would let their big head do the
thinking for thier little head, and not vice-versa. But we're all human,
and we all know what it's like to be young and in love, and sexually active.
Part of being human is having sex. It's unreasonable to expect people to
give that up. Nevertheless, there's a very real danger of unsafe sex.

Persuading people to avoid unsafe sex is what good folks should be doing
here. Not gloating, not arguing.

Curiously, that's one of the things that may be pushing up the rate
for gay men: the rate measures reported cases, not actual cases.
Public health officials were doing the right thing by noticing a blip
in the infection rate and taking steps, such as encouraging testing,
to stop it. The result of a "please get tested" (which goes with
"always use a condom") campaign is that you see a subsequent increase
in the rate as you catch more of the existing cases that would
otherwise be undetected.
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User: "John D. Wentzky"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	08 May 2007 10:01:38 AM

"Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:JcU%h.5190$H_.5134@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...

Some folks are going to gloat that some gay people die horrible deaths.
The rest of us will mourn the loss of close friends and family.

Still, I wish more of my gay friends would let their big head do the
thinking for thier little head, and not vice-versa. But we're all human,
and we all know what it's like to be young and in love, and sexually
active.
Part of being human is having sex. It's unreasonable to expect people
to give that up. Nevertheless, there's a very real danger of unsafe sex.

Persuading people to avoid unsafe sex is what good folks should be doing
here. Not gloating, not arguing.

Yes. Arguing can cause strife.
Informing the people of behaviors that spread disease is good policy.
Contesting such education is an exercise in ignorance and negligence.
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	09 May 2007 11:14:39 PM

On Tue, 08 May 2007 05:50:33 GMT, "Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Some folks are going to gloat that some gay people die horrible deaths.
The rest of us will mourn the loss of close friends and family.

You've got a lot of "mourning" to do since 400,000+ homosexual males
have died in the US since they (homosexuals males) initiated the AIDS
epidemic in 1980 (and they are still the most prolific spreader of the
disease in the US.)
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	10 May 2007 08:43:54 PM

On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:14:39 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2007 05:50:33 GMT, "Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Some folks are going to gloat that some gay people die horrible deaths.
The rest of us will mourn the loss of close friends and family.

According to one source (CDC), death rates in the US are 816.7 per 100,000
people, as of 2004. Total deaths for the year were 2,398,343. Apparent
total population under examination: 293,662,666.
So, if we treat that as about average, we're talking 2.4 million deaths
per year, or in the 24 years from 1980 to 2004 (the year of the results),
a total of some 57,560,232 deaths total.
Your 400,000 equates to some 0.69% of this total. It was outpaced,
in a single year, by heart disease, at 654,092 deaths and cancer at
550,270 deaths. In fact, flu and pneumonia, the lowest-occuring causes in
the front-page list, accounted for 61,472 deaths in a single year, or,
multiplied out, almost four times as many deaths as you quote for
homosexuals.
Thus what you appear to be arguing is that homosexuality, based solely on
the figures, is actually the safest lifestyle, therefore we should all
immediately become homosexuals.
Of course, this is, admittedly, an incorrect use of the numbers, but it is
intentionally incorrect in order to make the point: the numbers of dead
gay males, by itself, means nothing. What matters is the context, and one
needs be very careful of establishing the context correctly.
All you've done, thus far, is give a number, one which is devoid of
context and which, if used inappropriately, can lead to virtually any
conclusion.
One such erroneous conclusion would be to argue that AIDS was in any way
related to homosexuality. It isn't. What it _is_ related to is unsafe
behavior, including IV drug use and promiscuous sex - but there is nothing
inherent in the notion of being gay that requires one to also be an IV
drug user or to be promiscuous.
--
Sorry, I must have misunderstood your question. I
believe that the Holy Spirit caused on of Mary's eggs to become
a fetus without sperm. - Steve Bedard
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	11 May 2007 12:43:36 AM

On Thu, 10 May 2007 18:43:54 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

One such erroneous conclusion would be to argue that AIDS was in any way
related to homosexuality. It isn't. What it _is_ related to is unsafe
behavior, including IV drug use and promiscuous sex - but there is nothing
inherent in the notion of being gay that requires one to also be an IV
drug user or to be promiscuous.

But that's where the smart money is. Check with the books in Vegas.
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	11 May 2007 02:30:02 AM

On Fri, 11 May 2007 05:43:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2007 18:43:54 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

But that's where the smart money is. Check with the books in Vegas.

Not terribly smart money if it can't tell the difference between two very
different things.
--
The use of pepper is the only blasphemy. - Robert Curry
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	11 May 2007 04:38:42 PM

On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:30:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 05:43:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2007 18:43:54 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

But that's where the smart money is. Check with the books in Vegas.

Not terribly smart money if it can't tell the difference between two very
different things.

Male homosexuals seem to be universally afflicted with such a malady.
They can tell a man's ***** hole from a woman's. vagina. More especially
the cancer of BUG CHASERS that is plaguing homosexuality in the US
today.
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User: "No One"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	11 May 2007 06:50:49 PM

writes:

"Leroyblue" (aka bibon, aka Bill Taylor, aka ...) is telling fibs again.
While there are a few people into "bug chasing", they are very few in
number. The first article I ever saw mentioning this group was in a
San Francisco newspaper, and all the evidence they had was a story about
a single apartment where this sort of thing was going on.
It no doubt happens, but it is very unusual. It is neither a "cancer"
nor a "plague", but rather an anomaly that shows that, if you beat the
bushes hard enough, you can find some pretty weird stuff.
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	11 May 2007 08:45:02 PM

[snips]
On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:38:42 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

But that's where the smart money is. Check with the books in Vegas.

Not terribly smart money if it can't tell the difference between two very
different things.

Male homosexuals seem to be universally afflicted with such a malady.

The malady here being promiscuity? Nope, sorry, wrong. While I'm sure
some are - just as some people in general are - there is no universality
in this. Try again.

They can tell a man's ***** hole from a woman's. vagina.

Er, what, and you're too stupid to figure that out? Let's see... for
starters, one only occurs on men[1], the other only on women. One's
generally back-facing, the other's generally front-facing. They're
structurally different. How much detail would you like me to go into, so
that in future you feel confident that - should you ever be privileged to
actually encounter a vagina - you might actually recognize it?

More especially
the cancer of BUG CHASERS that is plaguing homosexuality in the US
today.

Bug chasers? Why would pest exterminators care about the sexuality of
anyone, unless they were trying to get a date?
You make less sense with every post.
[1] "men's assholes" only occur on men; obviously, women have them, too,
and as is readily observable, some people try to not just have one, but
to be one.
--
Laurie is right--humans /did/ evolve from Xerox machines. -- Pat Ford
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	12 May 2007 03:00:41 PM

On Sat, 12 May 2007 01:45:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

More especially the cancer of BUG CHASERS that is plaguing homosexuality
in the US today.

Bug chasers? Why would pest exterminators care about the sexuality of
anyone, unless they were trying to get a date?
You make less sense with every post.

You demonstrate your provincial nature with your every post.
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	12 May 2007 05:45:02 PM

On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:41 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2007 01:45:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

More especially the cancer of BUG CHASERS that is plaguing homosexuality
in the US today.

Bug chasers? Why would pest exterminators care about the sexuality of
anyone, unless they were trying to get a date?

You make less sense with every post.

You demonstrate your provincial nature with your every post.

Hmm. Provincial. "Lacking urban sophistication or broad-mindedness."
How bizarre. You're the one who cannot grasp that homosexuals can have a
wide variety of behaviors just as hets can, and this makes me provincial?
I think you need to re-check the meaning of the term.
Meanwhile, I note you've failed to support your argument about homosexuals
being universally afflicted with any malady. Not surprising, as they
aren't, though this didn't stop you from saying they were.
--
Pickup line: You're under arrest! Place your ankles behind your ears.
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	13 May 2007 02:36:36 AM

On Sat, 12 May 2007 22:45:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:41 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2007 01:45:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

More especially the cancer of BUG CHASERS that is plaguing homosexuality
in the US today.

Bug chasers? Why would pest exterminators care about the sexuality of
anyone, unless they were trying to get a date?

You make less sense with every post.

You demonstrate your provincial nature with your every post.

Hmm. Provincial. "Lacking urban sophistication or broad-mindedness."

Correct! Google: 'define', is a wonderful tool isn't it, rube? Now you
know your character.
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	13 May 2007 04:48:19 PM

[snips]
On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:36:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

Hmm. Provincial. "Lacking urban sophistication or broad-mindedness."

Correct! Google: 'define', is a wonderful tool isn't it, rube?

Wouldn't know, I've never used it.
BTW, the name isn't "rube".

Now you know your character.

I've always known my character; it comes from actually having one.
Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that gays
as a class are afflicted with any malady.
--
Shelby, I want to know why if drunkards will not go to heaven,
then why is wine a drink of the church and is called the 'blood
of jesus christ'????? - Jeffrey Ivins
Because Jesus is a grape. - J. J. Hitt
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 12:12:30 AM

On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:48:19 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

[snips]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:36:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

Hmm. Provincial. "Lacking urban sophistication or broad-mindedness."

Correct! Google: 'define', is a wonderful tool isn't it, rube?

Wouldn't know, I've never used it.

BTW, the name isn't "rube".

Of course it is. You just don't know it.

Now you know your character.

I've always known my character; it comes from actually having one.

One without rectitude, obviously.

Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that gays
as a class are afflicted with any malady.

There is little need to point out the obvious but it seems that it
necessary for your comprehension of the facts:
1. Gays are not a class, and
2. You can't reproduce. That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned. Suppose we all suffered from
that malady...frightening, isn't it?
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User: "L. Michael Roberts"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 11:26:49 PM

wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:48:19 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

[snips]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:36:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

<snip>

2. You can't reproduce. That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned. Suppose we all suffered from
that malady...frightening, isn't it?

Can you let us know when the world began running out of people and
suffering from under population? I must have missed the memo.
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User: "Dubh Ghall"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 02:33:11 AM

On Mon, 14 May 2007 05:12:30 GMT,

wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:48:19 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

[snips]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:36:36 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

Hmm. Provincial. "Lacking urban sophistication or broad-mindedness."

Correct! Google: 'define', is a wonderful tool isn't it, rube?

Wouldn't know, I've never used it.

BTW, the name isn't "rube".

Of course it is. You just don't know it.

Now you know your character.

I've always known my character; it comes from actually having one.

One without rectitude, obviously.

Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that gays
as a class are afflicted with any malady.

There is little need to point out the obvious but it seems that it
necessary for your comprehension of the facts:

1. Gays are not a class, and
2. You can't reproduce. That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned. Suppose we all suffered from
that malady...frightening, isn't it?

Why?
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is purely my own
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User: "Kelsey Bjarnason"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 02:39:27 PM

[snips]
On Mon, 14 May 2007 05:12:30 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

BTW, the name isn't "rube".

Of course it is. You just don't know it.

Despite your weird delusions, I do in fact happen to know my name; I even
have documented support to back that notion up.

I've always known my character; it comes from actually having one.

One without rectitude, obviously.

Obviously that is incorrect.

Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that
gays as a class are afflicted with any malady.

1. Gays are not a class, and

"Gays as a class" - a group, a whole. Too difficult for you to understand?

2. You can't reproduce.

I can't? News to me. Sorry, when did I have the vasectomy?

That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned.

You assume that the only way for an individual to contribute to the
continuation of the species is direct, personal reproduction. This is
obviously nonsense; the simple fact one can adopt and raise offspring is
sufficient to deal with that bit of stupidity. That doesn't even begin to
deal with issues such as kin selection, population rate limits and a
variety of other factors, any and all of which can be aided by those who
do not reproduce.

Suppose we all suffered from
that malady...frightening, isn't it?

I see. The only reason you're not gay is because the survival of the
species depends upon it. Well, I hate to break this to you, but if you
never breed at all, the species will continue anyway - so you are free to
be as gay as you want.
That *was* your point, right? That without a requirement for propagation,
everyone - including you - would immediately turn gay? No? Then your
"suppose we all..." is simple *****.
--
How he found the airport in Oz is the biggest of
them all. - KARL SCHNEIDER
His mother pinned a note to his shirt saying 'Dear Cab Driver:
Deliver this idiot to the airport. Thank you.' - David Rice
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User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 09:55:24 PM

On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:39:27 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:

[snips]

On Mon, 14 May 2007 05:12:30 +0000, leroyblue wrote:

BTW, the name isn't "rube".

Of course it is. You just don't know it.

Despite your weird delusions, I do in fact happen to know my name; I even
have documented support to back that notion up.

I've always known my character; it comes from actually having one.

One without rectitude, obviously.

Obviously that is incorrect.

Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that
gays as a class are afflicted with any malady.

1. Gays are not a class, and

"Gays as a class" - a group, a whole. Too difficult for you to understand?

No. It simply wrong and I understand that even if you don't.

2. You can't reproduce.

I can't? News to me. Sorry, when did I have the vasectomy?

The capability of purely homosexual to reproduce is the point.

That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned.

First we must deal with your stupidity when it comes to what will or
won't sustain the continuation of the species. If no off-springs are
being produced there will be NO OFF-SPRINGS to adopt or raise
consequently the species becomes extinct.

That doesn't even begin to
deal with issues such as kin selection, population rate limits and a
variety of other factors, any and all of which can be aided by those who
do not reproduce.

Nothing matter if there is no reproduction of the species. Homosexual
relationships are incapable of reproduction of the species.

Suppose we all suffered from
that malady...frightening, isn't it?

I'm always amused when a "homosexual" tries to insult a heterosexual
by calling him a homosexual.

That *was* your point, right? That without a requirement for propagation,
everyone - including you - would immediately turn gay? No? Then your
"suppose we all..." is simple *****.

An imperfect smokescreen...you're dead.
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	14 May 2007 11:33:10 PM

<leroyblue@pillinor.net> wrote:

Kelsey Bjarnason

leroyblue wrote:

Meanwhile, I note you've still failed, completely, to establish that
gays as a class are afflicted with any malady.

1. Gays are not a class, and

"Gays as a class" - a group, a whole. Too difficult for you to understand?

No. It simply wrong and I understand that even if you don't.

2. You can't reproduce.

I can't? News to me. Sorry, when did I have the vasectomy?

The capability of purely homosexual to reproduce is the point.

It's wholly irrelevant.

That's a serious malady as far as the
continuation of the species is concerned.

First we must deal with your stupidity when it comes to what will or
won't sustain the continuation of the species.

The eugenics argument. Like the nazis, you think that being able to
have children is of some relevance to human rights.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "RamRod Sword of Baal"
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	15 May 2007 04:12:41 PM

<leroyblue@pillinor.net> wrote in message
news:gn7i43duct9qd78udin6v6bi37nmfe1rak@4ax.com...

Nothing matter if there is no reproduction of the species. Homosexual
relationships are incapable of reproduction of the species.

Why should the homosexuals want to reproduce, after all the heterosexuals
manage to produce a new crop of homosexuals every year........
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Syphilis rise in U.S. gay, bisexual men	16 May 2007 12:35:02 AM

On Tue, 15 May 2007 21:12:41 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
<RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote:

<leroyblue@pillinor.net> wrote in message
news:gn7i43duct9qd78udin6v6bi37nmfe1rak@4ax.com...

Nothing matter if there is no reproduction of the species. Homosexual
relationships are incapable of reproduction of the species.

Why should the homosexuals want to reproduce, after all the heterosexuals
manage to produce a new crop of homosexuals every year........

Don't bet your trailer rent on that continuing to happening after a
means of preventing it is discovered. If homosexuality ceased to exist
in the next instant humanity wouldn't even miss a beat. Scary stuff
for you homos, huh?
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