Science > Abortion > Take the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray Fischer" Quiz!
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17 Jul 2005 01:07:29 AM |
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Take the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray Fischer" Quiz! |
Have you ever read a Ray Fischer post and said to yourself, "Boy, that's
not anything at all! I bet I could do what Ray does-- easy peasy!" Well
now here's your chance to prove it, in the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray
Fischer" quiz! If you get all answers correct, your name will be entered
into a drawing for a DREAM DATE with Ray Fischer at the participating
Applebees location nearest you!!! (Offer void in states where law
prohibits.)
This is your quiz... take the following thread titles, and below them
write how RAY FISCHER would change them. All entries must be postmarked by
July 19... don't delay!
t e a r a l o n g p e r f o r a t e d e d g e
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1) Vacuous Pro-Abortion Arguments
2) Abortionists the Baby Killers
3) Desperation showing in pro-abortion statement
4) abortionist baby killers
5) Words From an Abortion Survivor
6) Pro-aborts and their death/injury wishes
7) Pro-choice morons on Broadway: You go girl!
8) Abortionist admits gruesome practice under oath
9) Abortion advocate admits abortion is killing!
...Be careful... the next one's tricky!
10) Attempted Cover-up at an Abortion Mill
11) Are any Pro-Choice posters here Paid propagandists???
12) Pro-choice: The new minority
13) "I used to be pro-choice."
14) Pro-Abortion Syndrome hides personal pain
15) It must suck to be pro abortion these days
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| User: "Sgt. America" |
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23 Jul 2005 08:00:37 PM |
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Sadburger wrote:
In article <1121830887.425662.254270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Seriously, this is abortion, we should all know this is the thorniest of
issues. What could a person possibly say about abortion in one or two
sentences that would be worth saying at all, never mind repeated five
thousand times?
Once again, "Bravo!" Sadburger. Extremely well done.
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
He's just one of the many oddballs of Usenet. He is attracted to t.a. not out
of any alleged concern for human rights but because it gives him an outlet for
his otherwise pent-up bigotry towards those he hates. His posts, consisting of
almost incessant slander instead of engaged debate of contending issues, shows
a total lack of cohesion and context in his whole approach. His obsessive
posting (dozens of posts almost every single day for year after year after
year) proves that he simply feels at home in the information-less hell of
Usenet. Even that he is utterly ineffectual has no bearing on him.
Or perhaps trying to convince people that something isn't hateful or
intolerant or whatever is an exercise in futility, as these people don't
seem particularly attentative to the content of the posts, only the
affiliations of the posters.
They're all obsessive crackpots as far as I can tell. They see Usenet as a
game where quantity is more important than quality. All they do is conform to
what Usenet as a whole naturally tends towards in terms of content - NOISE.
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| User: "Sadburger" |
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23 Jul 2005 10:29:16 PM |
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In article <42E2E835.F703096A@dfsfg.dfg>, "Sgt. America"
<fdglkj@dfsfg.dfg> wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
Interesting... this writer came to a conclusion similar to mine:
"What happened to the guy? Did he have bad experience with some
pro-life person? Did some Christian fundamentalist woman (or man)
spurn his romantic advances? Did some college girlfriend refuse to
have an abortion and then made him pay up? Who knows?"
I wish there was some way to be able to filter out all his kneejerk
polemics and just read those rare posts where he's candid and unguarded,
discussing his life or his beliefs at length (perhaps a script that only
selects posts above a certain unquoted-line/quoted-line ratio? Or one that
filters out posts containing key phrases like 'pro-LIAR' and 'abject
servitude'?)
He's just one of the many oddballs of Usenet. He is attracted to t.a. not out
of any alleged concern for human rights but because it gives him an outlet for
his otherwise pent-up bigotry towards those he hates. His posts, consisting of
almost incessant slander instead of engaged debate of contending issues, shows
a total lack of cohesion and context in his whole approach. His obsessive
posting (dozens of posts almost every single day for year after year after
year) proves that he simply feels at home in the information-less hell of
Usenet. Even that he is utterly ineffectual has no bearing on him.
I often ask people that-- "what do you hope to accomplish here?" It's a
very simple question, but is one that is routinely ignored or snipped in
follow-ups. Telling me I'm a horrible person over and over isn't going to
convince me, and it's not going to make the world a better place, so why
take the time and energy to do such a thing?
Of course, villainizing pro-lifers has been the pro-choice modus operandi
since the get-go. The only trouble is, it's not especially persuasive for
the person being villainized. Nowadays, it's some pretty rocky times for
pro-choicers, and they have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT TO DO.
"Ummm... let's *completely* remove 'pro-life' from our vocabulary and
replace it with 'anti-choice'! Let's stop using the word 'abortion' at all
and replace it entirely with euphemisms! Let's use even *more* war
language! Let's say 'You just want to control women's bodies' at least
*five* times in every discussion! Whatever we were doing, apparently we're
not doing enough of it!"
Oh wait, there's a new tactic... the Empty Gesture!
(Paraphrasing John Kerry at debates) "I respect your belief that abortion
is murder, but I believe in human rights enough to force you to pay for
them anyway."
(Howard Dean to college Democrats this week) "We should welcome
pro-lifers to the Democratic party. Of course, we'll hold fast to our
principles and refuse to nominate any presidential candidate they'd ever
consider voting for in a million years, but they're invited to join us
anyway!"
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email------ - - . i'd like least be an inuit cuz
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web-------- - - . everything's made of snow and *****
home.earthlink.net/~tagutcow . when you're an eskimo and *****.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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24 Jul 2005 08:40:17 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:29:16 GMT, (Sadburger)
wrote:
[...]
I wish there was some way to be able to filter out all his kneejerk
polemics...
Just ignore him. Where's the difficulty in that simplistic task?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Jul 2005 11:10:26 PM |
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Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
Interesting... this writer came to a conclusion similar to mine:
We notice that despite your claims that you attempt rational debate,
you are resorting to nothing more impressive than the same-old ad
hominem attacks.
You cannot argue the facts and so you whine and lie and attack people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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26 Jul 2005 11:23:25 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
Interesting... this writer came to a conclusion similar to mine:
We notice that despite your claims that you attempt rational debate,
you are resorting to nothing more impressive than the same-old ad
hominem attacks.
You cannot argue the facts and so you whine and lie and attack people.
Ray, have you taken that walk yet? You'll feel better.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Jul 2005 01:31:10 AM |
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Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
Interesting... this writer came to a conclusion similar to mine:
We notice that despite your claims that you attenpt raitonal debate,
you are resorting to nothing more impressive that the same-old ad
hominem attacks.
You canot argue the facts and so you whine and lie and attack people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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23 Jul 2005 11:03:35 PM |
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Sadburger wrote:
In article <42E2E835.F703096A@dfsfg.dfg>, "Sgt. America"
<fdglkj@dfsfg.dfg> wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident. No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Ray is incapable at humor. But I'd like to know who/what put the bug up his
*****....
Interestingly he didn't used to be this way:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/1d1ae9216a68382e
Interesting... this writer came to a conclusion similar to mine:
"What happened to the guy? Did he have bad experience with some
pro-life person? Did some Christian fundamentalist woman (or man)
spurn his romantic advances? Did some college girlfriend refuse to
have an abortion and then made him pay up? Who knows?"
I wish there was some way to be able to filter out all his kneejerk
polemics and just read those rare posts where he's candid and unguarded,
discussing his life or his beliefs at length (perhaps a script that only
selects posts above a certain unquoted-line/quoted-line ratio? Or one that
filters out posts containing key phrases like 'pro-LIAR' and 'abject
servitude'?)
He's just one of the many oddballs of Usenet. He is attracted to t.a. not out
of any alleged concern for human rights but because it gives him an outlet for
his otherwise pent-up bigotry towards those he hates. His posts, consisting of
almost incessant slander instead of engaged debate of contending issues, shows
a total lack of cohesion and context in his whole approach. His obsessive
posting (dozens of posts almost every single day for year after year after
year) proves that he simply feels at home in the information-less hell of
Usenet. Even that he is utterly ineffectual has no bearing on him.
I often ask people that-- "what do you hope to accomplish here?" It's a
very simple question, but is one that is routinely ignored or snipped in
follow-ups. Telling me I'm a horrible person over and over isn't going to
convince me, and it's not going to make the world a better place, so why
take the time and energy to do such a thing?
Of course, villainizing pro-lifers has been the pro-choice modus operandi
since the get-go. The only trouble is, it's not especially persuasive for
the person being villainized. Nowadays, it's some pretty rocky times for
pro-choicers, and they have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT TO DO.
"Ummm... let's *completely* remove 'pro-life' from our vocabulary and
replace it with 'anti-choice'! Let's stop using the word 'abortion' at all
and replace it entirely with euphemisms! Let's use even *more* war
language! Let's say 'You just want to control women's bodies' at least
*five* times in every discussion! Whatever we were doing, apparently we're
not doing enough of it!"
Oh wait, there's a new tactic... the Empty Gesture!
(Paraphrasing John Kerry at debates) "I respect your belief that abortion
is murder, but I believe in human rights enough to force you to pay for
them anyway."
(Howard Dean to college Democrats this week) "We should welcome
pro-lifers to the Democratic party. Of course, we'll hold fast to our
principles and refuse to nominate any presidential candidate they'd ever
consider voting for in a million years, but they're invited to join us
anyway!"
Maybe Ray's Pong game broke and he's bitter about it. I've been
encouraging Ray to seek professional help for a while - to no avail.
Most recently I suggested he go out for a walk - that can be
therapeutic.
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24 Jul 2005 08:09:13 AM |
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wrote in
news:1122177815.047096.136750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Maybe Ray's Pong game
what does a liar and coward like you know of games?
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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23 Jul 2005 08:05:52 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:00:37 +1200, "Sgt. America" <fdglkj@dfsfg.dfg>
wrote:
[...]
They're all obsessive crackpots...
Look whos' talking.
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20 Jul 2005 09:32:43 AM |
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Sadburger wrote:
In article <1121830887.425662.254270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Seriously, this is abortion, we should all know this is the thorniest of
issues. What could a person possibly say about abortion in one or two
sentences that would be worth saying at all, never mind repeated five
thousand times?
Once again, "Bravo!" Sadburger. Extremely well done.
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident.
Actually, people like Ray, Keegan, Sleeker and BOB are doing a better
job of EXPOSING the difference between your thoughtful and funny
remarks and their own graffitti.
No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go again
with my sulfurous invective!
Or perhaps trying to convince people that something isn't hateful or
intolerant or whatever is an exercise in futility, as these people don't
seem particularly attentative to the content of the posts, only the
affiliations of the posters.
Yup.
--
email------ - - . i'd like least be an inuit cuz
tagutcow@earthlink.net . everything is cold and ***** and
web-------- - - . everything's made of snow and *****
home.earthlink.net/~tagutcow . when you're an eskimo and *****.
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| User: "BOB" |
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20 Jul 2005 10:32:18 AM |
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wrote in
news:1121869963.860025.54610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Sadburger wrote:
In article <1121830887.425662.254270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Seriously, this is abortion, we should all know this is the
thorniest of
issues. What could a person possibly say about abortion in one or
two sentences that would be worth saying at all, never mind
repeated five thousand times?
Once again, "Bravo!" Sadburger. Extremely well done.
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than
Ray's-- a point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident.
Actually, people like Ray, Keegan, Sleeker and BOB are doing a better
job of EXPOSING the difference between your thoughtful and funny
remarks and their own graffitti.
The only thing we expose is your obvious stupidity and the hatred for
personal liberty of other anti-choice loons like yourself who post here.
No matter what I say,
they're all "You spew HATE!!!"-- it's the same kind of banal, effete
response as Michael Jackson's "That's IGNORANT!" Whoops! There I go
again with my sulfurous invective!
Or perhaps trying to convince people that something isn't hateful or
intolerant or whatever is an exercise in futility, as these people
don't seem particularly attentative to the content of the posts, only
the affiliations of the posters.
Yup.
If you walk like a duck, talk like a duck....
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email------ - - . i'd like least be an inuit cuz
tagutcow@earthlink.net . everything is cold and ***** and
web-------- - - . everything's made of snow and *****
home.earthlink.net/~tagutcow . when you're an eskimo and
*****.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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21 Jul 2005 05:52:23 AM |
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On 20 Jul 2005 07:32:43 -0700, wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
In article <1121830887.425662.254270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
Sadburger wrote:
Seriously, this is abortion, we should all know this is the thorniest of
issues. What could a person possibly say about abortion in one or two
sentences that would be worth saying at all, never mind repeated five
thousand times?
Once again, "Bravo!" Sadburger. Extremely well done.
Thanks, awthrawthr. Perhaps you could do a better job than I at
demonstrating that my posts are generally in better humor than Ray's-- a
point I mistakenly thought would be self-evident.
Actually, people like Ray, Keegan, Sleeker and BOB are doing a better
job of EXPOSING the difference between your thoughtful and funny
remarks and their own graffitti.
You have that wrong, Anthrax; Sadburger is undeniably exposing himself
as an intellectual retard, and the likes of Sneekers, Keegan and Ray
are pointing their fingers and laughing at him.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:55:25 AM |
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Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
Response to the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray Fischer" quiz has been, to
say the least, underwhelming. Either the challenge truly was too
difficult, or the prospect of sharing our Fabulous Brownie SundaeŽ with
Or people aren't that interested in your childish whining.
Do you think people are interested in your bilous one-liners containing
absolutely zero informational content?
As opposed to your whining in this thread?
Yeah, that's real different. I guess you managed to convince
everybody with your irrefutable arguments and had nothing left to do.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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19 Jul 2005 10:34:52 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Sadburger <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote:
Response to the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray Fischer" quiz has bee=
n, to
say the least, underwhelming. Either the challenge truly was too
difficult, or the prospect of sharing our Fabulous Brownie Sundae=AE =
with
Or people aren't that interested in your childish whining.
Do you think people are interested in your bilous one-liners containing
absolutely zero informational content?
Actually his thread is shear brilliance - over your head, to be sure.
As opposed to your whining in this thread?
So you've been stuck in your rut for HOW MANY YEARS!! OMG! When is the
last time you took a walk? Get some fresh air, man!
Yeah, that's real different. I guess you managed to convince
everybody with your irrefutable arguments and had nothing left to do.
Sadburger pegged you with a life sized dart.
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18 Jul 2005 11:35:16 PM |
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Sadburger wrote:
Have you ever read a Ray Fischer post and said to yourself, "Boy, that's
not anything at all! I bet I could do what Ray does-- easy peasy!" Well
now here's your chance to prove it, in the "I Want to Win a Date with Ray
Fischer" quiz! If you get all answers correct, your name will be entered
into a drawing for a DREAM DATE with Ray Fischer at the participating
Applebees location nearest you!!! (Offer void in states where law
prohibits.)
This is your quiz... take the following thread titles, and below them
write how RAY FISCHER would change them. All entries must be postmarked by
July 19... don't delay!
t e a r a l o n g p e r f o r a t e d e d g e
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m a i l t h i s p a r t
1) Vacuous Pro-Abortion Arguments
2) Abortionists the Baby Killers
3) Desperation showing in pro-abortion statement
4) abortionist baby killers
5) Words From an Abortion Survivor
6) Pro-aborts and their death/injury wishes
7) Pro-choice morons on Broadway: You go girl!
8) Abortionist admits gruesome practice under oath
9) Abortion advocate admits abortion is killing!
...Be careful... the next one's tricky!
10) Attempted Cover-up at an Abortion Mill
11) Are any Pro-Choice posters here Paid propagandists???
12) Pro-choice: The new minority
13) "I used to be pro-choice."
14) Pro-Abortion Syndrome hides personal pain
15) It must suck to be pro abortion these days
Absolutely hilarious!
The only problem is that the food would have to be home delivered, 'cuz
Ray ain't leavin' his home.
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