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"Deuteros" |
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30 Jan 2006 07:51:36 PM |
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Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell the tax
man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal point
to the left or right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system, is
evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It's not that taxes are evil exactly - just that they reduce wealth because
so much is lost through the taxation process. Recent estimates put the
immediate overall welfare loss at 20% (ie to spend $1 of government revenue
costs the economy $1.20 because of disincentives, having to pay bureaucrats
etc), but that doesn't take into account the damage that the government
actually does with the money. Paying a bureaucrat to decide whether you can
cut a tree down on your own property, paying someone to decide whether you
are being discriminated against at work, paying someone to decide how much
someone else 'should' pay you for your labor, paying countless petty
bureaucrats to run around and issue industry fines against people for not
complying with ever more complex compliance rules ... it all adds up).
By evading taxes, you are creating incentive for yourself, and therefore you
are likely to generate more wealth, and you stop the government damaging the
economy with your money. This is a win / win. Or at least it would be if it
weren't for the possibility of having to spend time in prison sharing a cosy
little cell with that big man called Bubba. So evading tax is good for the
overall welfare (ie good for 'society'), but possibly bad for you.
Hard-core libertarians would say that you don't have an obligation to put
yourself at personal risk for the overall benefit of 'society', so they have
no obligation to put themselves at risk by evading taxes. Many statists
however, say that you have an obligation 'to the common good'.
Hence for libertarians, tax evasion is merely a right. But if you are a good
statist, then tax evasion becomes an obligation.
It's a pity more statists don't realize this.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? Or lying and stealing? |
30 Jan 2006 11:02:38 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell the tax
man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal point
to the left or right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system, is
evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
It's not that taxes are evil exactly - just that they reduce wealth because
so much is lost through the taxation process.
That doesn't justify dishonesty. Neither does any of your other
self-serving nonsense. I you want simpler taxes then you write to
your congresscritter.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mr. F. Le Mur" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? Or lying and stealing? |
31 Jan 2006 08:38:08 AM |
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On 31 Jan 2006 05:02:38 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell the tax
man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal point
to the left or right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system, is
evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
It's not that taxes are evil exactly - just that they reduce wealth because
so much is lost through the taxation process.
That doesn't justify dishonesty. Neither does any of your other
self-serving nonsense.
I must assume that those statements are directed toward
the politicos, welfare queens, wealthy farmers, etc. who
benefit from the theft of other people's money.
I you want simpler taxes then you write to
your congresscritter.
....and you'll get a nice, polite letter in return.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? Or lying and stealing? |
31 Jan 2006 11:08:32 AM |
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Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell the tax
man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal point
to the left or right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system, is
evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty much
without any morals at all. You steal from others and justify it by
claiming that you don't owe people when they do work for you.
It's not that taxes are evil exactly - just that they reduce wealth because
so much is lost through the taxation process.
That doesn't justify dishonesty. Neither does any of your other
self-serving nonsense.
I must assume that those statements are directed toward
the politicos,
Wrong again, moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
31 Jan 2006 05:44:43 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43df9990$0$58053$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell
the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a
decimal point to the left or right as they fill in their income and
claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system,
is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty much
without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
and justify it by claiming that you don't owe people when they do work
for you.
Who says we even wanted the government to do the work in the first place?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
31 Jan 2006 07:58:28 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell
the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a
decimal point to the left or right as they fill in their income and
claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system,
is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty much
without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
and justify it by claiming that you don't owe people when they do work
for you.
Who says we even wanted the government to do the work in the first place?
You did, hypocrite. You live here of your own free will. That means
you agree to pay taxes to support the society that you enjoy the
benefits of.
Don't like it? Leave.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
03 Apr 2006 07:47:28 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:43e015c4$0$58125$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell
the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a
decimal point to the left or right as they fill in their income and
claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system,
is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty much
without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
03 Apr 2006 11:30:15 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to tell
the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation to move a
decimal point to the left or right as they fill in their income and
claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax system,
is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty much
without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
04 Apr 2006 05:37:40 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4431f657$0$58084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to
tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation
to move a decimal point to the left or right as they fill in
their income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty
much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
04 Apr 2006 10:57:10 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to
tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation
to move a decimal point to the left or right as they fill in
their income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty
much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
04 Apr 2006 11:03:51 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44334016$0$58060$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to
tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation
to move a decimal point to the left or right as they fill in
their income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty
much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
06 Apr 2006 11:12:25 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what to
tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the temptation
to move a decimal point to the left or right as they fill in
their income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are pretty
much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
If you don't want to pay taxes, leave.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
06 Apr 2006 04:35:56 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44353de9$0$58083$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what
to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the
temptation to move a decimal point to the left or right as
they fill in their income and claim forms it too great to
resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still forced
to pay for them.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
07 Apr 2006 12:05:07 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly what
to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some, the
temptation to move a decimal point to the left or right as
they fill in their income and claim forms it too great to
resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the tax
system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact an
obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still forced
to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
07 Apr 2006 04:19:13 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4435f303$0$58035$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some,
the temptation to move a decimal point to the left or right
as they fill in their income and claim forms it too great
to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the
tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact
an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still
forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the government
goes to government services I never use.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
08 Apr 2006 12:53:46 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some,
the temptation to move a decimal point to the left or right
as they fill in their income and claim forms it too great
to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the
tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in fact
an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still
forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the government
goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave. Nobody makes you stay. But just as you don't get to set the
price of the groceries you buy, you don't get to set the tax rate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
08 Apr 2006 03:49:23 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44374fea$0$58097$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some,
the temptation to move a decimal point to the left or
right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the
tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in
fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from
others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still
forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail. Not much of a deal
But just as you don't get to set the price of the groceries you buy, you
don't get to set the tax rate.
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
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08 Apr 2006 11:56:17 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44374fea$0$58097$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some,
the temptation to move a decimal point to the left or
right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the
tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in
fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from
others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still
forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't but the product.
Leave.
But just as you don't get to set the price of the groceries you buy, you
don't get to set the tax rate.
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in the US.
You can leave.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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09 Apr 2006 11:41:12 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44374fea$0$58097$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For some,
the temptation to move a decimal point to the left or
right as they fill in their income and claim forms it too
great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with the
tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it in
fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from
others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm still
forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by a
long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
Leave.
But just as you don't get to set the price of the groceries you buy, you
don't get to set the tax rate.
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in the US.
You can leave.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
09 Apr 2006 05:28:50 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44393928$0$58044$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:44374fea$0$58097$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For
some, the temptation to move a decimal point to the
left or right as they fill in their income and claim
forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with
the tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it
in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from
others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by
a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody else
to pay for me?
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it or
not.
But just as you don't get to set the price of the groceries you buy,
you don't get to set the tax rate.
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in the US.
Which has nothing to do with being forced to pay taxes.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
09 Apr 2006 07:16:40 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering exactly
what to tell the tax man in their tax returns. For
some, the temptation to move a decimal point to the
left or right as they fill in their income and claim
forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with
the tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is it
in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation is
theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics are
pretty much without any morals at all. You steal from
others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not by
a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody else
to pay for me?
Somebody has to pay for government. You want a free ride.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it or
not.
No you're not. You can leave.
But just as you don't get to set the price of the groceries you buy,
you don't get to set the tax rate.
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in the US.
Which has nothing to do with being forced to pay taxes.
Try not to be a stupid *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
09 Apr 2006 09:50:51 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439a3e8$0$58034$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering
exactly what to tell the tax man in their tax
returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal
point to the left or right as they fill in their
income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with
the tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is
it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation
is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics
are pretty much without any morals at all. You steal
from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not
by a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody
else to pay for me?
Somebody has to pay for government. You want a free ride.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it or
not.
No you're not. You can leave.
Why should I leave because you want to force socialism on society?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
09 Apr 2006 10:59:33 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439a3e8$0$58034$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering
exactly what to tell the tax man in their tax
returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal
point to the left or right as they fill in their
income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems with
the tax system, is evading tax merely a right or is
it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it is
stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation
is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics
are pretty much without any morals at all. You steal
from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries isn't
theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services. Not
by a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody
else to pay for me?
Somebody has to pay for government. You want a free ride.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it or
not.
No you're not. You can leave.
Why should I leave because you want to force socialism on society?
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****. Pay or leave. Those are your choices.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
10 Apr 2006 07:26:23 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439d825$0$58065$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439a3e8$0$58034$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Mr. F. Le Mur <flemur@exciteDOT.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Tax time is here, and many people are wondering
exactly what to tell the tax man in their tax
returns. For some, the temptation to move a decimal
point to the left or right as they fill in their
income and claim forms it too great to resist.
But what about the morality? Given the problems
with the tax system, is evading tax merely a right
or is it in fact an obligation?
It goes against the Bible, it is dishonest, and it
is stealing.
'The Bible'?? Bwahaha!
But you're *finally* right about something: "taxation
is theft."
Which is not what I wrote, but you right-wing fanatics
are pretty much without any morals at all. You steal
from others
At least you agree that tax is theft.
I did not, you lying *****.
How is tax not theft?
The same way that being required to pay for groceries
isn't theft.
I'm not forced to pay for groceries.
And you're not forced to pay taxes.
How's that?
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services.
Not by a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody
else to pay for me?
Somebody has to pay for government. You want a free ride.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it
or not.
No you're not. You can leave.
Why should I leave because you want to force socialism on society?
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tax evasion -- A right, or actually an obligation? |
10 Apr 2006 10:42:14 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
You only have to pay for groceries if you take groceries.
You only have to pay for government if you use government.
I don't use the vast majority of government "products" yet I'm
still forced to pay for them.
You do not pay for the vast majority of government services.
Not by a long shot.
The vast majority of the money I am forced to hand over to the
government goes to government services I never use.
I bet it wouldn't even pay the salary of ONE government banking
regulator, tax accountant, military officer, or environmental
scientist. It wouldn't pay for ten feet of freeway or 1% of any
military hardware.
Yet I am still paying for more services than I use.
No, you're just whining because you want everybody else to pay for
you.
How is wanting to get rid of income taxes equate to wanting everybody
else to pay for me?
Somebody has to pay for government. You want a free ride.
And if you don't like the deal being offered then you're free to
leave.
Pay your taxes because we say so or go to jail.
I wrote nothing about jail.
Just like any other deal, you're free to refuse. if you don't like
the price being asked, then don't buy the product.
With the government, I'm forced to buy the product whether I like it
or not.
No you're not. You can leave.
Why should I leave because you want to force socialism on society?
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to stay in this country.
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
(Again) Because you enjoy the benefits of government.
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10 Apr 2006 07:31:32 AM |
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Deuteros wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439d825$0$58065$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
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"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in this country.
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
Because you use the government.
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10 Apr 2006 07:53:04 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:443a4eab$0$15451$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com:
Deuteros wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439d825$0$58065$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
<snip for brevity>
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in this country.
Why should I leave just because you want to implement socialism and a
welfare state?
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
Because you use the government.
Sorry, but I don't enjoy being forced to pay for services I don't use.
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10 Apr 2006 10:43:13 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
Deuteros wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in this country.
Why should I leave just because you want to implement socialism
Now you're reduced to lying because you cannot justify your greed.
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
Because you use the government.
Sorry, but I don't enjoy being forced to pay for services I don't use.
You enjoy lying about which services you use in order to whine about
having to pay for them.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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10 Apr 2006 08:00:10 AM |
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Deuteros wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:443a4eab$0$15451$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com:
Deuteros wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:4439d825$0$58065$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
<snip for brevity>
"Why should I have to pay for groceries because you want to force
capitalism on society."
Except that I'm not forced to buy groceries.
And you're not forced to live in this country.
Why should I leave just because you want to implement socialism and a
welfare state?
Actually, I'm advocating capitalism.
Quit whining. This country is onder no obligation to accomodate your
selfish *****.
So then why do I have to pay taxes?
Because you use the government.
Sorry, but I don't enjoy being forced to pay for services I don't use.
But you do use the services.
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10 Apr 2006 07:25:23 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Somebody has to pay for government.
Yes and there are plenty of ways to do it that don't involve forcing me to
give them a cut of my wages because they say so.
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11 Apr 2006 11:59:37 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Somebody has to pay for government.
Yes and there are plenty of ways to do it that don't involve forcing me to
give them a cut of my wages because they say so.
Such as?
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