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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Terry Cross" |
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21 May 2006 09:32:42 AM |
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Tax-Free Status of Churches Should Be a Non-Issue |
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Taxing Churches is in violation of your mantra.
No, lunatic, it is not.
Wrong, anti-religion freak.
Churches who want to avoid government interference should not bother
with the 501C(3) non-profit status registration. A corporation that
does not earn a profit pays no tax in any case.
So go ahead and incorporate so the church can buy land and pay salaries
for administrators. Inform the worshipers that the church cannot give
tax-free contributions because of the way the church is organized.
Most people who give charitable contributions do not derive tax benefit
from them in any case. If they must pay the higher tax, so be it.
Then just do the daily business that a church should do, make sure you
do not collect a profit, publish the books regularly to assure the
congregation of your true activities, and get rid of government
interference. Tax/tax-free status is a non-issue.
TCross
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Tax-Free Status of Churches Should Be a Non-Issue |
21 May 2006 01:29:11 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Taxing Churches is in violation of your mantra.
No, lunatic, it is not.
Wrong, anti-religion freak.
Churches who want to avoid government interference should not bother
with the 501C(3) non-profit status registration. A corporation that
does not earn a profit pays no tax in any case.
So go ahead and incorporate so the church can buy land and pay salaries
for administrators. Inform the worshipers that the church cannot give
tax-free contributions because of the way the church is organized.
Most people who give charitable contributions do not derive tax benefit
from them in any case. If they must pay the higher tax, so be it.
Then just do the daily business that a church should do, make sure you
do not collect a profit, publish the books regularly to assure the
congregation of your true activities, and get rid of government
interference. Tax/tax-free status is a non-issue.
TCross
Also, in your stated scenario, the church would then be able to endorse
which ever party or candidate that it wants to, and even contribute to
their campaigns, without worrying about losing their now non-existant
tax-free status. Those rules that non-profits run afoul on only apply
to non-profits.
The churches, however, do need to make sure that they do not hire too
many people, though. Then they could run afoul with the equal
opportunity employment laws. I think the number is 25 employees, but
check the specific laws to make sure.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Tax-Free Status of Churches Should Be a Non-Issue |
21 May 2006 04:06:06 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote
The churches, however, do need to make sure that they do not hire too
many people, though. Then they could run afoul with the equal
opportunity employment laws. I think the number is 25 employees, but
check the specific laws to make sure.
So the equal opportunity laws would have to go.
Or the church could become an informal organisation, holding funds secretly
and not making its membership or internal affairs public.
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| User: "Roy Jose Lorr" |
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| Title: Re: Tax-Free Status of Churches Should Be a Non-Issue |
21 May 2006 06:47:47 PM |
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Mark Sebree wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Taxing Churches is in violation of your mantra.
No, lunatic, it is not.
Wrong, anti-religion freak.
Churches who want to avoid government interference should not bother
with the 501C(3) non-profit status registration. A corporation that
does not earn a profit pays no tax in any case.
So go ahead and incorporate so the church can buy land and pay salaries
for administrators. Inform the worshipers that the church cannot give
tax-free contributions because of the way the church is organized.
Most people who give charitable contributions do not derive tax benefit
from them in any case. If they must pay the higher tax, so be it.
Then just do the daily business that a church should do, make sure you
do not collect a profit, publish the books regularly to assure the
congregation of your true activities, and get rid of government
interference. Tax/tax-free status is a non-issue.
TCross
Also, in your stated scenario, the church would then be able to endorse
which ever party or candidate that it wants to, and even contribute to
their campaigns, without worrying about losing their now non-existant
tax-free status. Those rules that non-profits run afoul on only apply
to non-profits.
The churches, however, do need to make sure that they do not hire too
many people, though. Then they could run afoul with the equal
opportunity employment laws. I think the number is 25 employees, but
check the specific laws to make sure.
Info on free churches:
http://hushmoney.org/
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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| Title: Re: Tax-Free Status of Churches Should Be a Non-Issue |
22 May 2006 12:45:37 AM |
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Brilliant. Thanks for passing that on:
"In the matter of changing religion, State favors are stronger than
penalties."
The Framers of America's Founding Documents relied heavily upon the
writings of the French political philosopher, Baron de Montesquieu.
Typical of Montesquieu's brilliant insight, he once wrote that:
Montesquieu: "A more certain way to attack religion is by favor,
by the comforts of life, by the hope of wealth; not by what reminds one
of it, but by what makes one forget it; not by what makes one
indignant, but by what makes men lukewarm, when other passions act on
our souls, and those which religion inspires are silent. In the matter
of changing religion, State favors are stronger than penalties."
The Spirit of the Laws, Baron de Montesquieu (1748)
TCross
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