Science > Abortion > Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
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Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity |
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com
December 17, 2007
A teacher in a California public school district is being sued for allegedly
making derogatory comments about the Christian faith during class time.
Chad Farnan is a student in Dr. James Corbett's advanced placement European
history class at Capistrano Valley High School. Farnan claims he was alarmed
when, on the first day of school, Corbett said the United States was not
founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
Farnan began recording the instructor's comments, and eventually let his
mother listen to them. After hearing the recordings, she contacted Advocates
for Faith and Freedom (AFF). Now, a federal lawsuit has been filed accusing
Dr. Corbett of violating the constitutional rights of students.
According to Jennifer Monk, an attorney with AFF, the high school teacher --
in at least one instance -- subjected his students to his anti-Christian
comments for a substantial portion of the class period.
"In the complaint, we allege just one day's worth of comments," the attorney
explains. "And in that one day ... for about 20 minutes to half an hour,
[he] spoke about different current events and [used] many derogatory
comments toward Christianity and conservatives."
Monk quotes Corbett as stating on one occasion that "when you put your Jesus
glasses on, you can't see the truth." Dr. Corbett is also accused of making
derogatory comments about Christian viewpoints regarding homosexuality,
birth control, and the sexual activities of teenagers.
Monk detects an inconsistency in how the principle of freedom of expression
is being applied in this case. "Currently Christians aren't allowed to
express their faith, [and] teachers aren't allowed to express their faith in
the classrooms to their students or talk about it openly," she points out.
"So at the very minimum," Monk argues, "they should not be allowing teachers
to express the exact opposite in this fashion for 20 minutes in the middle
of the class in such a way that they are essentially no longer teaching the
course that they are being paid to teach."
Students come to class to learn, says an AFF press release, and "not to be
forced to listen to the personal, demoralizing rantings of their teacher."
"Copyright 2007 American Family News Network - Used by permission."
--
J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
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| User: "Seon Ferguson" |
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| Title: Re: Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity |
17 Dec 2007 06:00:09 PM |
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"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Chad Farnan is a facist ***** who obviously doesnt believe in free speech.
If Christofacists like him had their way I would be sued just for
questioning how historical the Bible really is. Only in America I guess.
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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18 Dec 2007 03:34:51 AM |
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"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:47670da5$0$20635$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au to
alt.atheism:
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Chad Farnan is a facist ***** who obviously doesnt believe in free
speech. If Christofacists like him had their way I would be sued just
for questioning how historical the Bible really is. Only in America I
guess.
Well, at least since the Christian regime in South Africa collapsed in
1994.
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And now, today's sponsor message:
For the beluga caviar of stupidity, it's got to be...
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| User: "Syd M." |
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18 Dec 2007 04:04:42 PM |
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On Dec 18, 4:34 am, "Sanity's Little Helper" <elv...@noshpam.org>
wrote:
"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote innews:47670da5$0$20635$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.auto
alt.atheism:
"J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Chad Farnan is a facist ***** who obviously doesnt believe in free
speech. If Christofacists like him had their way I would be sued just
for questioning how historical the Bible really is. Only in America I
guess.
Well, at least since the Christian regime in South Africa collapsed in
1994.
So, when is the one in America due to collapse?
PDW
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| User: "Diagoras" |
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17 Dec 2007 07:48:16 PM |
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"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Snip
Moron, the US was founded on the Constitution!
Get a brain, and once you accomplish that, get an education!
Here are some sources of inspiration:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html
http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070608212544AAIKXf1&show=7
After getting educated, take this test to see if your feeble mind could
retain all that knowledge:
http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/ffrfquiz.php
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 Dec 2007 08:09:45 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:48:16 -0800, "Diagoras" <1@1.1> wrote:
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Snip
Moron, the US was founded on the Constitution!
Get a brain, and once you accomplish that, get an education!
Here are some sources of inspiration:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html
http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070608212544AAIKXf1&show=7
After getting educated, take this test to see if your feeble mind could
retain all that knowledge:
<snort> Young would have trouble with 'sit', 'fetch' and 'roll over'.
http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/ffrfquiz.php
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| User: "Diagoras" |
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17 Dec 2007 10:32:00 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:staem3lhgcf94fheddbb2g79uqbcq36ovs@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:48:16 -0800, "Diagoras" <1@1.1> wrote:
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Snip
Moron, the US was founded on the Constitution!
Get a brain, and once you accomplish that, get an education!
Here are some sources of inspiration:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html
http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070608212544AAIKXf1&show=7
After getting educated, take this test to see if your feeble mind could
retain all that knowledge:
<snort> Young would have trouble with 'sit', 'fetch' and 'roll over'.
I think he should be humanely euthanized. Folks like him inspire the
pro-choice movement.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity |
18 Dec 2007 03:03:52 PM |
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On 17 Dez., 23:44, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Get a grip. You send much worse things here... Stop being a hypocrite,
nazi turd, and take it like a man. Yesterday, you were bragging about
the freedom of speech enjoyed in the USA. Deal with it, sissy boy.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Has it ever occured to you that if we were interested in what this
moronic "news site" was posting, we would read it?
All your postings seem to be copy and paste from it. Is it because you
are not intelligent enough to come with your own topic? because you
are a gullible moron who will swallow everything as long as it fits
your perverse agenda? or because you a troll in dire need of
attention?
In any case, if you want to be taken seriously, moron, use serious
sources...
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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18 Dec 2007 03:39:14 AM |
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On Dec 17, 11:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
So is a compulsory recital of the modified pledge and a moment of
silence - but I don't see you whining about that.
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| User: "harry k" |
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17 Dec 2007 09:11:39 PM |
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On Dec 17, 2:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com
December 17, 2007
A teacher in a California public school district is being sued for allegedly
making derogatory comments about the Christian faith during class time.
Chad Farnan is a student in Dr. James Corbett's advanced placement European
history class at Capistrano Valley High School. Farnan claims he was alarmed
when, on the first day of school, Corbett said the United States was not
founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
<snip>
J Young
jyoungvisi...@aol.com
Good for him. Good teacher to correct a misunderstanding. The
country is not founded on Christianity. I'll cite Thomas Jefferson:
Thomas Jefferson after studying the subject
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_cooper.html
Letter of Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper Feb 10 1814"
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of common law"
Harry K
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| User: "sleepykit" |
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| Title: Re: Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity |
17 Dec 2007 05:35:05 PM |
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On Dec 17, 3:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com
December 17, 2007
A teacher in a California public school district is being sued for allegedly
making derogatory comments about the Christian faith during class time.
Chad Farnan is a student in Dr. James Corbett's advanced placement European
history class at Capistrano Valley High School. Farnan claims he was alarmed
when, on the first day of school, Corbett said the United States was not
founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
Farnan began recording the instructor's comments, and eventually let his
mother listen to them. After hearing the recordings, she contacted Advocates
for Faith and Freedom (AFF). Now, a federal lawsuit has been filed accusing
Dr. Corbett of violating the constitutional rights of students.
According to Jennifer Monk, an attorney with AFF, the high school teacher --
in at least one instance -- subjected his students to his anti-Christian
comments for a substantial portion of the class period.
"In the complaint, we allege just one day's worth of comments," the attorney
explains. "And in that one day ... for about 20 minutes to half an hour,
[he] spoke about different current events and [used] many derogatory
comments toward Christianity and conservatives."
Monk quotes Corbett as stating on one occasion that "when you put your Jesus
glasses on, you can't see the truth." Dr. Corbett is also accused of making
derogatory comments about Christian viewpoints regarding homosexuality,
birth control, and the sexual activities of teenagers.
Monk detects an inconsistency in how the principle of freedom of expression
is being applied in this case. "Currently Christians aren't allowed to
express their faith, [and] teachers aren't allowed to express their faith in
the classrooms to their students or talk about it openly," she points out.
"So at the very minimum," Monk argues, "they should not be allowing teachers
to express the exact opposite in this fashion for 20 minutes in the middle
of the class in such a way that they are essentially no longer teaching the
course that they are being paid to teach."
Students come to class to learn, says an AFF press release, and "not to be
forced to listen to the personal, demoralizing rantings of their teacher."
"Copyright 2007 American Family News Network - Used by permission."
--
J Young
jyoungvisi...@aol.com
So it's perfectly all right for schools to teach students BS science
in the form of intelligent design and it's okay to create museums that
outright lie to children, but it's not okay for a teacher to do the
opposite? Nice one way street.
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| User: "LC" |
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18 Dec 2007 09:38:24 AM |
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"sleepykit" <sleepykit@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ae0f8bfd-6f95-432f-a10b-c5d45cfe14ad@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 17, 3:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
<snip>
So it's perfectly all right for schools to teach students BS science
in the form of intelligent design and it's okay to create museums that
outright lie to children, but it's not okay for a teacher to do the
opposite? Nice one way street.
It's just "J Young" being his usual hypocritical self again.
Look what he posted when a student was chastised for passing out
right-to-life propaganda at a school:
"How dare anyone or any institution try to suppress this young man's
First Amendment rights!"
From: "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: Court keeps pro-life literature distribution at Michigan school
Date: 28 Mar 2007 07:22:08 -0700
Message-ID: <1175091728.446228.99600@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "Syd M." |
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18 Dec 2007 04:02:41 PM |
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On Dec 17, 5:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
But you wouldn't object if YOUR type of hatred was in the classroom,
huh, IBen?
And you wonder why you get clobbered..
PDW
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| User: "LC" |
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18 Dec 2007 04:22:03 PM |
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"Syd M." <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2d34759-f4a1-486d-b762-584bae917fee@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 17, 5:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
But you wouldn't object if YOUR type of hatred was in the classroom,
huh, IBen?
In IBen's demented world, Mein Kampf is his Holy book.
"Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts have no place
in organized religion."~ Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
And you wonder why you get clobbered..
It's the only attention he gets.
"So now we see that the looney here is once again JYoung/IBen/whatever.
Around and around you go, never stopping to rent some clues so you can
be spared the ignomity of displaying your stupidity on a world-wide
discussion forum. Don't you feel even the slightest bit stupid, being
shot down in flames every time you try another line of hypocrisy?
Don't you ever wonder about how you could avoid having your own words
jammed sideways down your becankered pie hole?"
From: "spartakus@my-deja.com" <spartakus@my-deja.com>
Message-ID: <1133666769.510375.197910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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19 Dec 2007 04:52:05 AM |
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On Dec 18, 11:02 pm, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Dec 17, 5:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:> This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
But you wouldn't object if YOUR type of hatred was in the classroom,
huh, IBen?
And you wonder why you get clobbered..
PDW
No *****.
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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17 Dec 2007 07:31:59 PM |
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On Dec 17, 5:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Then it's a good thing that you've never seen the inside of a
classroom, then.
Unless of course you meant that YOUR type of hatred should be
tolerated.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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19 Dec 2007 11:23:24 PM |
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On Dec 17, 5:44 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com
December 17, 2007
What, did she name a hamster jesus?
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Dec 2007 02:40:30 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net> wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/teacher_accused_of_making_disp.php
Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity
Allie Martin
OneNewsNow.com
December 17, 2007
A teacher in a California public school district is being sued for allegedly
making derogatory comments about the Christian faith during class time.
Chad Farnan is a student in Dr. James Corbett's advanced placement European
history class at Capistrano Valley High School. Farnan claims he was alarmed
when, on the first day of school, Corbett said the United States was not
founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
It wasn't.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification, not work permit or citizenship.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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17 Dec 2007 09:25:59 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, J Young wrote:
Farnan began recording the instructor's comments, and eventually let his
mother listen to them.
California Education Code:
51512. The Legislature finds that the use by any person, including
a pupil, of any electronic listening or recording device in any
classroom of the elementary and secondary schools without the prior
consent of the teacher and the principal of the school given to
promote an educational purpose disrupts and impairs the teaching
process and discipline in the elementary and secondary schools, and
such use is prohibited. Any person, other than a pupil, who
willfully violates this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
Any pupil violating this section shall be subject to appropriate
disciplinary action.
This section shall not be construed as affecting the powers,
rights, and liabilities arising from the use of electronic listening
or recording devices as provided for by any other provision of law.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture they do not
understand, but the passages that bother me are those I do understand.
-- Mark Twain
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Dec 2007 08:00:05 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, J Young wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Well that wrecks your agenda huh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
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| User: "Ash" |
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19 Dec 2007 08:05:12 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, J Young wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Well that wrecks your agenda huh?
I can't remember, but I doubt he was singing the same tune when a
Christian teacher was recorded preaching to his students a few months
back and telling them they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Dec 2007 03:07:21 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:05:12 -0500, Ash <ash.amanic@virgin.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<SbadnRMo2bbUuPTanZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, J Young wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Well that wrecks your agenda huh?
I can't remember, but I doubt he was singing the same tune when a
Christian teacher was recorded preaching to his students a few months
back and telling them they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus
Of course not. That's "freedom of religion" and since it is
requirement of that particular cult it is of course a necessity.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification, not work permit or citizenship.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Dec 2007 11:15:10 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:05:12 -0500, Ash wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:14 -0500, J Young wrote:
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Well that wrecks your agenda huh?
I can't remember, but I doubt he was singing the same tune when a
Christian teacher was recorded preaching to his students a few months
back and telling them they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus
Oh he was probably ranting at the teacher being disciplined. Young won't
be happy until we're living under a worldwide dictatorship with Poop Rat
at the top...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Let me get this straight: You believe that a cosmic Jewish
zombie who was his own father will let you live forever
if you pretend to eat his flesh, drink his blood, and
telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master,
so he can remove an evil force from your soul that he put
there a long time ago as punishment for all humanity because
a rib-woman made from a dust-man was convinced by a talking
snake to eat fruit from a magical tree.
- Unknown
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Teacher accused of making disparaging comments about Christianity |
17 Dec 2007 05:12:16 PM |
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Serial whiner "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1g3jsh.ch3.17.1@news.alt.net...
This type of hatred in the classroom cannot be tolerated.
Now THAT'S funny, coming from one of the most hateful trolls on Usenet.
A teacher in a California public school district is being sued for
allegedly making derogatory comments about the Christian faith during
class time.
And that prompts a lawsuit?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa!
"It's only 'free speech' if you agree with it. For example.. I used to
like to frequent alt.flame.niggers and alt.white.power. But Google
dropped them because they saw them as racist. The left will say it's
hate-speech and should not be protected under the Constitution. I'll
say it's truth-speech, and that they should put people like them in
concentration camps."
From: "J Young" aka <Lappcatt@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1189394301.317793.97090@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
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