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User: "David W. Barnes"
Date: 28 Jul 2004 10:23:52 AM
Object: Teacher of the year kills baby
A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed her
5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.
She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.
Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?
.

User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 02:41:12 PM
"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed her
5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?

Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 02:45:44 PM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net...

"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed her
5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?


Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?

So what is being suggested? If the woman aborted she wouldn't have been
depressed?
I am not so sure what kind of a message that is trying to be made with the
story of this woman and her tragic incident?
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 04:49:39 PM
Osprey wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net...

"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed her
5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?


Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?


So what is being suggested? If the woman aborted she wouldn't have been
depressed?

Who knows? I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with the losses
though.

I am not so sure what kind of a message that is trying to be made with the
story of this woman and her tragic incident?

Pick one:
The dangers of "hero" worship.
Things aren't always what they seem.
Childbirth can be dangerous, both mentally and physically.
Irony.
Just from the brief story I've seen, it's hard to tell the circumstances
surrounding it. Was the child's death an accident, so she wrapped the
body and killed herself? Was it planned, and if so, why?
Who knows.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 07:36:11 PM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net...

"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed

her

5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?


Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?


So what is being suggested? If the woman aborted she wouldn't have been
depressed?


Who knows? I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with the losses
though.

I am not so sure what kind of a message that is trying to be made with

the

story of this woman and her tragic incident?


Pick one:
The dangers of "hero" worship.
Things aren't always what they seem.
Childbirth can be dangerous, both mentally and physically.
Irony.

Just from the brief story I've seen, it's hard to tell the circumstances
surrounding it. Was the child's death an accident, so she wrapped the
body and killed herself? Was it planned, and if so, why?
Who knows.

Why do some women have these problems? It is definetely something worth
discussing and studying.
.
User: "Bobs Boyfriend"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 07:56:46 PM
In article <CqydnVg4mrBo2JXcRVn-pA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:41081FA6.87759AD5@citlink.net...

Osprey wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net...

"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year killed

her

5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due to
giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?


Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?


So what is being suggested? If the woman aborted she wouldn't have been
depressed?


Who knows? I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with the losses
though.

I am not so sure what kind of a message that is trying to be made with

the

story of this woman and her tragic incident?


Pick one:
The dangers of "hero" worship.
Things aren't always what they seem.
Childbirth can be dangerous, both mentally and physically.
Irony.

Just from the brief story I've seen, it's hard to tell the circumstances
surrounding it. Was the child's death an accident, so she wrapped the
body and killed herself? Was it planned, and if so, why?
Who knows.


Why do some women have these problems? It is definetely something worth
discussing and studying.

What is posing the difficulty -- that women are capable of violence,
that an outwardly appearing stable women could commit violence, or
something else?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 08:42:06 PM
"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
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In article <CqydnVg4mrBo2JXcRVn-pA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:41081FA6.87759AD5@citlink.net...

Osprey wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net...

"David W. Barnes" wrote:


A woman who was honored this spring as teacher of the year

killed

her

5-week-old daughter and then herself after battling the type of
depression that comes with childbirth.

She had been undergoing treatment for postpartum depression due

to

giving childbirth.

Where is Papa_Jack when things like this happen?


Perusing LifeNews.com to see what his point of view should be?


So what is being suggested? If the woman aborted she wouldn't have

been

depressed?


Who knows? I feel sorry for the ones who have to deal with the losses
though.

I am not so sure what kind of a message that is trying to be made

with

the

story of this woman and her tragic incident?


Pick one:
The dangers of "hero" worship.
Things aren't always what they seem.
Childbirth can be dangerous, both mentally and physically.
Irony.

Just from the brief story I've seen, it's hard to tell the

circumstances

surrounding it. Was the child's death an accident, so she wrapped the
body and killed herself? Was it planned, and if so, why?
Who knows.


Why do some women have these problems? It is definetely something worth
discussing and studying.


What is posing the difficulty -- that women are capable of violence,
that an outwardly appearing stable women could commit violence, or
something else?

I am well aware that women are capable of violence, and that trend is
growing.
You should see some of the women we have coming to prison now, they are very
violent.
In some cases, they can be worse than male inmates as far as stability goes.
I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?
.
User: "Bobs Boyfriend"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 28 Jul 2004 09:34:53 PM
In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?

Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance? Chemical imbalance is yet another way to say that people are
incapable of acts of their own accord.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 29 Jul 2004 10:19:20 AM
"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?

Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.
A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.
Chemical imbalance is yet another way to say that people are

incapable of acts of their own accord.

So do you think that the women who killed their own children were capable of
preventing their own action?
I don't know if they were or not, which is why I am asking.
.
User: "Elmo"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 29 Jul 2004 04:53:22 PM
In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.

Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.

LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




Chemical imbalance is yet another way to say that people are

incapable of acts of their own accord.


So do you think that the women who killed their own children were capable of
preventing their own action?

I don't know if they were or not, which is why I am asking.

Why would you ask that of women?
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 02:04:15 AM
Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.

http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm





Chemical imbalance is yet another way to say that people are

incapable of acts of their own accord.


So do you think that the women who killed their own children were capable of
preventing their own action?

I don't know if they were or not, which is why I am asking.


Why would you ask that of women?

.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 11:49:53 AM
(osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>...

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<

> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.



http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm

Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A lot
of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is there
anything to support your claim about the men in prison.
So, Come one, you damn hypocrite, backup your statement that "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome".
This is no different that what you demand of everyone else. So,
either defend your claim, or be shown to be a liar and a hypocrite
(again).








Chemical imbalance is yet another way to say that people are

incapable of acts of their own accord.


So do you think that the women who killed their own children were capable of
preventing their own action?

I don't know if they were or not, which is why I am asking.


Why would you ask that of women?

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 12:00:15 PM
On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,
(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>...

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.



http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A lot
of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is there
anything to support your claim about the men in prison.

Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort). Also, his
statement about the studies is *****. There have not been a lot of
studies, and most of the ones that were done focussed specifically on
imprisoned males with no control group and so can't be taken seriously
at all.


So, Come one, you damn hypocrite, backup your statement that "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome".

He won't (actually, can't, since the karyotyping isn't generally done
for XYY males - they don't show enough physical or mental symptoms to
make it necessary). He is, as usual, full of *****.
[snip]
---
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 10:27:23 AM
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<aavkg05cf7iu5eeld3hkc0t530aobbc15q@4ax.com>...

On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>...

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.



http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A lot
of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is there
anything to support your claim about the men in prison.


Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort).

Heh, so this webpage doesn't even properly define Klinesfelters? And,
it certianly doesn't substantiate his claim about the violent men in
prison.

Also, his
statement about the studies is *****. There have not been a lot of
studies, and most of the ones that were done focussed specifically on
imprisoned males with no control group and so can't be taken seriously
at all.

Akin to "Christian Science"? ;)



So, Come one, you damn hypocrite, backup your statement that "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome".


He won't (actually, can't, since the karyotyping isn't generally done
for XYY males - they don't show enough physical or mental symptoms to
make it necessary). He is, as usual, full of *****.

Yep, but as usual, he's screaming that he has defended his claim.
Even to the point of stating that he provided 5 references. I've only
seen one in this thread. As usual, he isn't even good at lying about
what he write.

[snip]

---
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 11:13:56 AM
On 31 Jul 2004 08:27:23 -0700,
(Pr0r3p) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<aavkg05cf7iu5eeld3hkc0t530aobbc15q@4ax.com>...

On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>...

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.



http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A lot
of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is there
anything to support your claim about the men in prison.


Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort).


Heh, so this webpage doesn't even properly define Klinesfelters? And,
it certianly doesn't substantiate his claim about the violent men in
prison.

Nah. His quoted page can't even get the names right.



Also, his
statement about the studies is *****. There have not been a lot of
studies, and most of the ones that were done focussed specifically on
imprisoned males with no control group and so can't be taken seriously
at all.


Akin to "Christian Science"? ;)

Oh, not even that good.




So, Come one, you damn hypocrite, backup your statement that "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome".


He won't (actually, can't, since the karyotyping isn't generally done
for XYY males - they don't show enough physical or mental symptoms to
make it necessary). He is, as usual, full of *****.


Yep, but as usual, he's screaming that he has defended his claim.
Even to the point of stating that he provided 5 references. I've only
seen one in this thread. As usual, he isn't even good at lying about
what he write.

I saw one of his 'sources' in someone's reply. It was a school
project, for someone's course. Bobby's definition of 'references' is
just about as solid as Coulter's - he feels that providing a footnote
is good enough, it doesn't have to be true or relevant.
---
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 12:46:15 PM
In article <52hng051lecprumb1jnkg7b0t5tbrv8die@4ax.com>, Adam H.
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:

On 31 Jul 2004 08:27:23 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message
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Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

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om...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some
chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it
could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have
a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.h
tm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A lot
of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is there
anything to support your claim about the men in prison.


Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort).


Heh, so this webpage doesn't even properly define Klinesfelters? And,
it certianly doesn't substantiate his claim about the violent men in
prison.


Nah. His quoted page can't even get the names right.

But he claims five sources - go figure.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 01:27:08 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720041046159299%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <52hng051lecprumb1jnkg7b0t5tbrv8die@4ax.com>, Adam H.
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:

On 31 Jul 2004 08:27:23 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message
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Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message


news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.c

om...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to

kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to

some

chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent,

it

could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure

have

a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra

y

chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.





http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.h

tm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A

lot

of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is

there

anything to support your claim about the men in prison.


Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort).


Heh, so this webpage doesn't even properly define Klinesfelters? And,
it certianly doesn't substantiate his claim about the violent men in
prison.


Nah. His quoted page can't even get the names right.


But he claims five sources - go figure.

Correct, on top of the source I provided in the original message, in a 2nd
message I provided four more.
From: "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
References: <280720040823526696%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>
<4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net> <96udnQCq_fppnJXc4p2dnA@comcast.com>
<41081FA6.87759AD5@citlink.net> <CqydnVg4mrBo2JXcRVn-pA@comcast.com>
<together-4AD165.20565628072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>
<_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>
<together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>
<ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com> <290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>
<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>
<300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>
<n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>
Subject: To back up even further
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:12:23 -0400
http://www.brianpaciotti.com/Lecture%209%20summer%2004%20W.pdf
http://www.dowling.edu/faculty/Perring/fusco.htm
http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:YXgIB5C8tsoJ:www.alumni.ca/~bernd3a/resources/XYYAnthonyBerndtVSF.ppt+supermale+prison+studies&hl=en
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 02:51:37 PM
In article <2KOdnV44af8ofpbcRVn-oA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720041046159299%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <52hng051lecprumb1jnkg7b0t5tbrv8die@4ax.com>, Adam H.
<adam@mailinator.com> wrote:

On 31 Jul 2004 08:27:23 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:<aavkg05cf7iu5eeld3hkc0t530aobbc15q@4ax.com>...

On 30 Jul 2004 09:49:53 -0700,

(Pr0r3p) wrote:

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in message
news:<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>...

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message


news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.c

om...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to

kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to

some

chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent,

it

could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure

have

a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra

y

chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.





http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.h

tm


Hey Asspry, you dipshit, this doesn't prove your statement that "A

lot

of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome". Sure, the article talks about Klinefelter's syndrome
which is the existence of an extra Y chromosone, but no where is

there

anything to support your claim about the men in prison.


Actually, Klinefelter's is the existence of multiple X chromosomes.
XYY is another syndrome. Osprey can't be arsed to do good research
(like at a page from a medical source of some sort).


Heh, so this webpage doesn't even properly define Klinesfelters? And,
it certianly doesn't substantiate his claim about the violent men in
prison.


Nah. His quoted page can't even get the names right.


But he claims five sources - go figure.


Correct, on top of the source I provided in the original message, in a 2nd
message I provided four more.

From: "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
References: <280720040823526696%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>
<4108018A.7D17ADEF@citlink.net> <96udnQCq_fppnJXc4p2dnA@comcast.com>
<41081FA6.87759AD5@citlink.net> <CqydnVg4mrBo2JXcRVn-pA@comcast.com>
<together-4AD165.20565628072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>
<_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>
<together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>
<ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com> <290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>
<8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>
<300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>
<n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>
Subject: To back up even further
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:12:23 -0400


http://www.brianpaciotti.com/Lecture%209%20summer%2004%20W.pdf

http://www.dowling.edu/faculty/Perring/fusco.htm

http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:YXgIB5C8tsoJ:www.alumni.ca/~bernd3a/resources/XYYAnthonyBerndtVSF.ppt+supermale+prison+studies&hl=en

None of them say what you claim.
On what do you base this opinion about how a "lot of men in prison who
are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent?"
.







User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 09:46:29 AM
In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message
news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her own
children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some chemical
imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it could be
genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have a
lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.



http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm

Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 01:00:51 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )

If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: To back up even further 30 Jul 2004 01:12:23 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com...


"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure

have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them show

a

genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.

To back this up even further, and end this discussion....
http://www.brianpaciotti.com/Lecture%209%20summer%2004%20W.pdf
http://www.dowling.edu/faculty/Perring/fusco.htm
http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:YXgIB5C8tsoJ:www.alumni.ca/~bernd3a/resources/XYYAnthonyBerndtVSF.ppt+supermale+prison+studies&hl=en
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 30 Jul 2004 09:31:50 PM
In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.

Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is quite
rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to be
more aggressive and violent."
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 03:38:28 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message news:<300720041931507315%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...

In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is quite
rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to be
more aggressive and violent."

I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.
.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 10:24:27 AM
(osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>...

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message news:<300720041931507315%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...

In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<

> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<

> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<

> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is quite
rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to be
more aggressive and violent."



I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.

5???? I saw 1 link to a webpage, and even it appears to not have
correct information, and it certianly doesn't support your claim that
"A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
You're claim has been defeated, now run along, you toilet scrubbing
prison janitor.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 10:11:26 AM
In article <8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:<300720041931507315%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...

In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message

news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You sure
have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.




http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who has
failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than opinion,
and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A lot of
men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome."
(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical imbalance
with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own children
could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of evidence
out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of them
show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the violence
men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is quite
rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to be
more aggressive and violent."



I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.

This is typical of your idea of arguing. Name ONE, just ONE that says
a "lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome, and this causes men to be more aggressive and violent."
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 01:24:07 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
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In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>,

osprey

<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message


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In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to

kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to

some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are

violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You

sure

have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an

extra y

chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.





http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who

has

failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than

opinion,

and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A

lot of

men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y

chromosome."

(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical

imbalance

with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own

children

could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of

evidence

out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of

them

show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the

violence

men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is

quite

rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to

be

more aggressive and violent."



I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.


This is typical of your idea of arguing. Name ONE, just ONE that says
a "lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome, and this causes men to be more aggressive and violent."

I never said any report said that, that was my own statement. And you know
this, but you want to find something else to distract from the issue.
I presented 5 different sources.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 02:51:36 PM
In article <eNydnSyvvNSFfpbcRVn-qQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720040811261946%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:<300720041931507315%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...

In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>,

osprey

<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in message


news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman to

kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due to

some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are

violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women? You

sure

have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an

extra y

chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.





http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone who

has

failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than

opinion,

and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement, "A

lot of

men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y

chromosome."

(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a chemical
imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical

imbalance

with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own

children

could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY of

evidence

out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of

them

show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the

violence

men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is

quite

rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who are
extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men to

be

more aggressive and violent."



I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.


This is typical of your idea of arguing. Name ONE, just ONE that says
a "lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome, and this causes men to be more aggressive and violent."


I never said any report said that, that was my own statement. And you know
this, but you want to find something else to distract from the issue.
I presented 5 different sources.

As other here have pointed out, you presented ONE source and that ONE
source didn't support your position.
On what do you base this opinion about how a "lot of men in prison who
are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent?"
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 04:46:48 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720041251360559%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <eNydnSyvvNSFfpbcRVn-qQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720040811261946%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:<300720041931507315%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...

In article <n8SdnZJ6dvjmEZfcRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>,

osprey

<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in

message




news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman

to

kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due

to

some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are

violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women?

You

sure

have

a

lot of problems with women.

A lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an

extra y

chromosome,
and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent.


LOL! A little knowledge... Your statement is untrue.






http://salc.wsu.edu/Fair_F03/FS9/Class%20Web%20Site/chemicalImbalances.htm


Two problems with your site. First it is written by someone

who

has

failed to demonstrate they have anything to offer other than

opinion,

and most importantly, nowhere does it support the statement,

"A

lot of

men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y

chromosome."

(In fact, having an extra "Y chromosome" would not be a

chemical

imbalance. )


If you would learn to read, I didn't say that it is a chemical

imbalance

with men. I ASKED if the problem with women who kill their own

children

could be a chemical imbalance.
I said with men in prison, it is genetic. And there is PLENTY

of

evidence

out there that show with men who are violent in prisons, many of

them

show a
genetic link that is believed to be responsible for a lot of the

violence

men have.


Untrue. Yes, the extra Y chromosome causes problems, but that is

quite

rare. And it certain doesn't warrant a "lot of men in prison who

are

extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men

to

be

more aggressive and violent."



I have provided at least 5 different references, you ignored them.


This is typical of your idea of arguing. Name ONE, just ONE that says
a "lot of men in prison who are extremely violent have an extra y
chromosome, and this causes men to be more aggressive and violent."


I never said any report said that, that was my own statement. And you

know

this, but you want to find something else to distract from the issue.
I presented 5 different sources.


As other here have pointed out, you presented ONE source and that ONE
source didn't support your position.

I presented five different sources.


On what do you base this opinion about how a "lot of men in prison who
are extremely violent have an extra y chromosome, and this causes men
to be more aggressive and violent?"

My Department, CUSA, ACA, my genetics professor at Wilmington College
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Teacher of the year kills baby 31 Jul 2004 06:09:55 PM
In article <3KSdnbEZnKQSj5HcRVn-gg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720041251360559%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <eNydnSyvvNSFfpbcRVn-qQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:310720040811261946%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407310038.246ca068@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
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<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:300720040746298037%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <8912d58d.0407292304.24c74ef5@posting.google.com>,

osprey

<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:<290720041453225614%anto@sales.com>...

In article <ReqdnXgrAIGFiJTcRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Bob's Boyfriend" <together@wyoming.com> wrote in

message




news:together-34AEC7.22350328072004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <_uqdnXnUVdM4yJXcRVn-og@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


I don't understand though, what would cause a woman

to

kill

her

own

children.
Is it a chemical imbalance?


Do you also presume when a male is violent that is due

to

some

chemical

imbalance?


Actually there are studies that show that men who are

violent, it

could be

genetic.


Then why assume it is a chemical imbalance with women?