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15 Feb 2006 12:27:05 AM |
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Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
Further proof that virtue and decency is being embraced by a larger portion
of society's young, and growing stronger every day. Keep up the good work
kids!
http://www.christianpost.com/article/society/2257/section/teens.promote.purity.on.valentines.day/1.htm
Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day
Tuesday, Feb. 14, 2006 Posted: 12:08:23PM EST
Teens and youth will stand up for sexual purity today on Valentine's Day by
taking part in the third annual Day of Purity, organizing events to
encourage their churches, organizations or community to take part.
The national event, which will involve hundreds, was organized by the
Liberty Counsel, a conservative Christian legal firm based in Orlando, Fla.
Youths will participate in various outreach activities to spread the message
of abstinence before marriage
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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26 Feb 2006 08:43:33 PM |
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rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all
identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or
component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
You rely on really weak lies.
Without your lies, you wouldn't have a case Douche.
Please say specifically which statements you think are lies.
The biggest lie of many is when you and the other anti-choice loons
who
post here claim to care about the "unborn" whereas you just want
control
women's sex and reproductive lives, Douche.
That's false and not even plausible.
It's true and, by far, the most likely explanation.
It's false and not even remotely likely.
Prove it.
It's your claim, your onus of proof. Get busy liar sophist Ray.
You clearly do not care much of children die - 10,000+ die every day
of hunger and you're not spending much effort to save them.
More high-school sophistry.
Your whining doesn't make it so.
My argument showed it was.
That's not necessarily true and it's irrelevant.
Of course it's relevant, pro-liar. You claim to care about human
lives, but the evidence strongly indicates that you don't.
I guess that's why you snipped away the proof, eh liar sophist, equivocating
cocksucking Ray?
You're not overly concerned with human rights since you show no regard
for the rights of women over their own bodies.
Most pro-life advocates take the position that,
Not interested in your opinions about other people.
Ray is not interested in the truth, just his own spinning.
Do
YOU believe that women should not be held responsible for their actions?
Sex isn't a crime, pervert.
Strawman, I didn't say it was.
Why would anyone care about other
people's bodily functions per se?
Because you're a control freak. You _need_ to make people do as you
say.
Everyone isn't like you sophist Ray.
That isn't a rebuttal, pro-liar.
Rebuttals are only needed when arguments are presented, you don't present
arguments. you present biased opinions, insults, and sophistry.
Don't try to deny it because
if you really cared about the unwanted "unborn" you would want to help
them after they are born and we can all see that that doesn't happen.
It actually does happen,
Crap.
It's a fact.
How many children have you adopted, pro-liar?
How many children do you support, pro-liar?
None of your business sophist liar *****.
there are pro-life sponsored adoption and
Notice that the pro-liar tries to take credit for the limited work
done by others.
The claim was that pro-lifers don't do anything,
The claim is that YOU are a liar and a hypocrite. And the poof is in every
one of your posts, liar Ray.
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26 Feb 2006 09:39:45 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all
identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or
component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
You rely on really weak lies.
Without your lies, you wouldn't have a case Douche.
Please say specifically which statements you think are lies.
The biggest lie of many is when you and the other anti-choice loons
who
post here claim to care about the "unborn" whereas you just want
control
women's sex and reproductive lives, Douche.
That's false and not even plausible.
It's true and, by far, the most likely explanation.
It's false and not even remotely likely.
Prove it.
It's your claim, your onus of proof.
Provided. Part is still present just below.
You clearly do not care much of children die - 10,000+ die every day
of hunger and you're not spending much effort to save them.
More high-school sophistry.
Your whining doesn't make it so.
My argument showed it was.
What "argument", moron? The one you imagined?
That's not necessarily true and it's irrelevant.
Of course it's relevant, pro-liar. You claim to care about human
lives, but the evidence strongly indicates that you don't.
I guess that's why you snipped away the proof, eh liar sophist, equivocating
cocksucking Ray?
Ah there's the usual response when the pro-liar is exposed for the
perverted control freak that he is.
You're not overly concerned with human rights since you show no regard
for the rights of women over their own bodies.
Most pro-life advocates take the position that,
Not interested in your opinions about other people.
Ray is not interested in the truth,
No, moron, I'm not interested in your bizarre fantasies.
Do
YOU believe that women should not be held responsible for their actions?
Sex isn't a crime, pervert.
Strawman,
It is not. Without a crime there is nothing to be held responsible
for. She didn't do anything wrong.
Don't try to deny it because
if you really cared about the unwanted "unborn" you would want to help
them after they are born and we can all see that that doesn't happen.
It actually does happen,
Crap.
It's a fact.
How many children have you adopted, pro-liar?
How many children do you support, pro-liar?
None of your business sophist liar *****.
LOL! The pro-liar feels free to stick his nose into other people's
sex lives, but when he's challenged with his own propaganda he gets
abusive and runs away.
What a surprise. Just another pro-liar control freak.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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27 Feb 2006 06:36:32 AM |
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rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of
ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all
identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or
component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
You rely on really weak lies.
Without your lies, you wouldn't have a case Douche.
Please say specifically which statements you think are lies.
The biggest lie of many is when you and the other anti-choice loons
who
post here claim to care about the "unborn" whereas you just want
control
women's sex and reproductive lives, Douche.
That's false and not even plausible.
It's true and, by far, the most likely explanation.
It's false and not even remotely likely.
Prove it.
It's your claim, your onus of proof.
Provided. Part is still present just below.
Not provided, never will be, since it's a falsehood.
You clearly do not care much of children die - 10,000+ die every day
of hunger and you're not spending much effort to save them.
More high-school sophistry.
Your whining doesn't make it so.
My argument showed it was.
What "argument", moron? The one you imagined?
The one you snipped away.
Here:
It's false and not even remotely likely. You may as well argue that
someone wants to have a say when you take a *****, clip your toenails
or have dental work. Pro-lifers are interested in the life of an
unborn child, in preventing it from being killed before it's born. The
fact that it involves someone *changing their behaviour* is secondary,
not a motive.
[..]
Do
YOU believe that women should not be held responsible for their actions?
Sex isn't a crime, pervert.
Strawman,
It is not. Without a crime there is nothing to be held responsible
for. She didn't do anything wrong.
It was "wrong" if she was hoping to avoid pregnancy. In any case we are
responsible for all our actions, not only "wrongdoing".
Don't try to deny it because
if you really cared about the unwanted "unborn" you would want to
help
them after they are born and we can all see that that doesn't
happen.
It actually does happen,
Crap.
It's a fact.
How many children have you adopted, pro-liar?
How many children do you support, pro-liar?
None of your business sophist liar *****.
LOL!
That's right, my personal life is none of your business, you slimy toad.
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27 Feb 2006 03:17:54 PM |
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rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of
ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all
identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or
component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
You rely on really weak lies.
Without your lies, you wouldn't have a case Douche.
Please say specifically which statements you think are lies.
The biggest lie of many is when you and the other anti-choice loons
who
post here claim to care about the "unborn" whereas you just want
control
women's sex and reproductive lives, Douche.
That's false and not even plausible.
It's true and, by far, the most likely explanation.
It's false and not even remotely likely.
Prove it.
It's your claim, your onus of proof.
Provided. Part is still present just below.
Not provided,
Here it is again:
You clearly do not care much of children die - 10,000+ die every day
of hunger and you're not spending much effort to save them.
[...]
What "argument", moron? The one you imagined?
The one you snipped away.
Here:
It's false and not even remotely likely.
That's no argument. That's a unsupported claim and one that doens't
fit the evidence.
You may as well argue that
someone wants to have a say when you take a *****, clip your toenails
False analogy.
Pro-lifers are interested in the life of an
unborn child,
Unsupported claim contrary to the evidence.
The
fact that it involves someone *changing their behaviour* is secondary,
Unsupported claim.
All you can do is repeat your *****.
Do
YOU believe that women should not be held responsible for their actions?
Sex isn't a crime, pervert.
Strawman,
It is not. Without a crime there is nothing to be held responsible
for. She didn't do anything wrong.
It was "wrong" if she was hoping to avoid pregnancy.
In your opinion.
In any case we are
responsible for all our actions,
And abortion is a responsible way of dealing with unwanted pregnancy.
Don't try to deny it because
if you really cared about the unwanted "unborn" you would want to
help
them after they are born and we can all see that that doesn't
happen.
It actually does happen,
Crap.
It's a fact.
How many children have you adopted, pro-liar?
How many children do you support, pro-liar?
None of your business sophist liar *****.
LOL!
That's right, my personal life is none of your business,
But the personal life of pregnant women is your business.
So not only are you a liar, you're also a stinking hypocrite.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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22 Feb 2006 11:45:48 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independant, they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
Do you ever get tired of lying?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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23 Feb 2006 03:08:38 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable as
from the one person that produced it. Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability, they are simply building blocks undergoing nothing
but rapid degradation. Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent, we all depend on a supportive environment
for our survival.
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray? I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do." That is
a FACT. I did NOT say that fetuses exhibit ALL the characteristic behaviour
or component parts of adult humans. My statement specifically Excluded
**sperm and eggs** from having brains, livers, kidneys, spinal columns, and
full-on developmental cell-splitting life processes, as humans do, including
fetuses.
Do you never get tired of the never-ending sophistry? Have long have you
been at this deceit? Why don't you try facing reality? You WILL find it
exhilarating, once you get over the embarrassment.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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23 Feb 2006 12:51:16 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither does an embryo.
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent,
Equivocation.
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray?
And whenever you're presented facts that demolish your argument you
resort to whiny ad hominem attacks.
I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do."
Repeating an obvious lie doesn't make it true.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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23 Feb 2006 11:42:46 AM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent,
Equivocation.
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray?
And whenever you're presented facts that demolish your argument you
resort to whiny ad hominem attacks.
I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do."
Repeating an obvious lie doesn't make it true.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
23 Feb 2006 11:02:31 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA. The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Stop squirming and hear the truth Ray.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does. An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop. Neither sperm nor egg has any such capability.
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
Why deliberately choose a hostile environment for such a test? Because you
are attempting to skew the results. NO environment will cause a sperm or egg
to start dividing and growing, only a self-contained living animal organism
will do that.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent,
Equivocation.
FACT. You are not independent, nor can you survive in a hostile environment,
yet you use these criteria to declare a fetus as not a human life. That's
hypocrisy.
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray?
And whenever you're presented facts that demolish your argument you
resort to whiny ad hominem attacks.
Not applicable, neither happened there.
I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do."
Repeating an obvious lie doesn't make it true.
Not applicable, since my statement was an obvious truism. A human life, as
with any animal, once conception has occurred, is identifiable by the fact
that it's cells divide and specialize at an incredible rate, building and
repairing a million different systems and components that make up a highly
complex organism. Both we and fetuses share this amazing process. Sperm is
utterly incapable of any such process.
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26 Feb 2006 02:46:44 AM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA.
Identical twins. Chimerism.
The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
You assume that a fetus is a person in order to argue that it's DNA is
that of a person.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does.
You're lying.
An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop.
Provide any embryo with "nourishment and protection of a womb" and it
will DIE.
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
Why deliberately choose a hostile environment for such a test?
Nothing hostile about the environment. You're free to provide all of
the nourishment you wish. The outcome will be no different.
NO environment will cause a sperm or egg
to start dividing and growing,
Provide an egg a sperm cell and it will begin dividing. Your claim is
thus refuted.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent,
Equivocation.
FACT.
Equivocation. You're pretending that "independant of everything" is
the same as "independent of another human's body".
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray?
And whenever you're presented facts that demolish your argument you
resort to whiny ad hominem attacks.
Not applicable,
Cowardice.
I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do."
Repeating an obvious lie doesn't make it true.
Not applicable,
Of course it's applicable. You're a liar and your claim is a lie.
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26 Feb 2006 05:20:05 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable
as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA.
Identical twins. Chimerism.
SO WHAT?
The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
It's not a fallacy to state a fact, idiot.
You assume that a fetus is a person in order to argue that it's DNA is
that of a person.
More childish sophistry, when are you going to grow up Ray? The point was
NOT to quibble over the definition of the word "person", it was to point out
that a fetus is a separate and new human entity from either parent, bearing
the same DNA that will carry through it's life, different from that of
either parent.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does.
You're lying.
No, I am not.
An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop.
Provide any embryo with "nourishment and protection of a womb" and it
will DIE.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
Why deliberately choose a hostile environment for such a test?
Nothing hostile about the environment. You're free to provide all of
the nourishment you wish. The outcome will be no different.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
NO environment will cause a sperm or egg
to start dividing and growing,
Provide an egg a sperm cell and it will begin dividing. Your claim is
thus refuted.
No *it* won't, because *it* (that egg) will cease to exist, along with the
sperm. The Zygote creates a new entity, the embryo.
Your lies are thus exposed, sophist, equivocating, quibbling, lying Ray.
Why do you do it Ray? Why do you disgrace yourself and harm the pro-choice
movement by behaving this way?
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Neither sperm nor eggs display the characteristic behaviour or
component
parts of humans, fetuses do.
Except for the fact that they're not independent,
No living creature is independent,
Equivocation.
FACT.
Equivocation. You're pretending that "independant of everything" is
the same as "independent of another human's body".
No I am not pretending that. Your claim was that lack of "independence"
<period> was significant. The FACT is that NONE of us is independent,
therefore "independence" is a red herring. It just so happens that a fetus
is dependent on one specific person.
they don't breathe,
they don't drink, they don't eat.
More sophistry Ray?
And whenever you're presented facts that demolish your argument you
resort to whiny ad hominem attacks.
Not applicable,
Cowardice.
Empty rhetoric, I have never lied here. YOU are the coward, afraid to face
the realities of this issue. Here is pro-choice website done by an honest
guy. It's called Why Abortion is Moral
http://www.elroy.net/ehr/abortionanswers.html
Read it over and over until you get it.
I repeat, "Neither sperm nor eggs display the
characteristic behaviour or component parts of humans, fetuses do."
Repeating an obvious lie doesn't make it true.
Not applicable,
Of course it's applicable.
Of course it ISN'T.
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26 Feb 2006 12:15:06 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable
as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA.
Identical twins. Chimerism.
SO WHAT?
So your claim is proven (again) to be false.
DNA is IREELEVANT to whether something is a human being or a person.
The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
It's not a fallacy to state a fact, idiot.
It's not a fact, *****. IT IS A LIE!
You assume that a fetus is a person in order to argue that it's DNA is
that of a person.
More childish sophistry,
Pay attention, *****: Your argument has been refuted. And as a
"rebuttal" you start lying.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does.
You're lying.
No, I am not.
Then take an embryo and turn it into an infant.
An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop.
Provide any embryo with "nourishment and protection of a womb" and it
will DIE.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Apparently you consider anything that proves you wrong to be
"quibbling".
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
Why deliberately choose a hostile environment for such a test?
Nothing hostile about the environment. You're free to provide all of
the nourishment you wish. The outcome will be no different.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Run away, pro-liar hypocrite and coward.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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26 Feb 2006 08:50:12 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44016af4$0$58046$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in
the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable
as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA.
Identical twins. Chimerism.
SO WHAT?
So your claim is proven (again) to be false.
No it's not.
DNA is IREELEVANT to whether something is a human being or a person.
Not it's not, it's a critical peice of the puzzle.
The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a
fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
It's not a fallacy to state a fact, idiot.
It's not a fact, *****. IT IS A LIE!
It's a fact, moron. If you don't agree then show some contrary evidence,
don't just have a tantrum.
You assume that a fetus is a person in order to argue that it's DNA is
that of a person.
More childish sophistry,
Pay attention, *****: Your argument has been refuted. And as a
"rebuttal" you start lying.
Pay attention *****-for-brains, any alleged "refutation" is IN YOUR deluded
mind.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does.
You're lying.
No, I am not.
Then take an embryo and turn it into an infant.
It happens all the time. Next question.
An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop.
Provide any embryo with "nourishment and protection of a womb" and it
will DIE.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Apparently you consider anything that proves you wrong to be
"quibbling".
Not at all, quibbling and equivocating is quibbling.
Try feeding an egg and see if it grows into a human.
Try the same with an embryo in a petri dish and see what happens.
Why deliberately choose a hostile environment for such a test?
Nothing hostile about the environment. You're free to provide all of
the nourishment you wish. The outcome will be no different.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Run away
Like you always do? No.
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26 Feb 2006 09:42:33 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA
of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Yes, of the body that produced it.
Wrong yet again, pro-liar. The genes of a gamete exist nowhere in
the
body of the person that produced it.
More *****. The DNA in a sperm or egg is specific and identifiable
as
from the one person that produced it.
Likewise the DNA from any adult is just as readily used to identify
his/her parents.
Exactly, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, different DNA.
Identical twins. Chimerism.
SO WHAT?
So your claim is proven (again) to be false.
No it's not.
You're either lying or insane. I gave two examples that counter your
claim.
DNA is IREELEVANT to whether something is a human being or a person.
Not it's not,
Prove it.
The DNA in sperm is identifiable
as the DNA *of* one person, an already existing person. The DNA in a
fetus
defines a completely different person than either parent.
Logical fallacy: Assuming the conclusion.
It's not a fallacy to state a fact, idiot.
It's not a fact, *****. IT IS A LIE!
It's a fact, moron.
Prove it.
Neither sperm nor egg has any inherent
developmental capability,
Neither doesn't an embryo.
Yes it does.
You're lying.
No, I am not.
Then take an embryo and turn it into an infant.
It happens all the time.
Not by itself, lying *****. If it was an "inherent" ability then it
would not need a woman's body.
An embryo only requires the nourishment and protection of a
womb to continue to develop.
Provide any embryo with "nourishment and protection of a womb" and it
will DIE.
Why, sophist, equivocating, quibbling Ray?
Apparently you consider anything that proves you wrong to be
"quibbling".
Not at all,
And yet when you get proven wrong you whine about "quibbling" as you
did just above.
As usual.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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23 Feb 2006 02:24:34 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2006 01:24:47 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Since we are talking about humans what kind of DNA do you think,
idiot?
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Individual sperm and eggs are not life forms They cannot by them
selves develop into a human being. A fetus is a human life form.
Contrary to your belief that they do, parents haven't the right to
kill their children at ANY stage of their development.
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23 Feb 2006 11:44:38 AM |
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 01:24:47 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Since we are talking about humans what kind of DNA do you think,
idiot?
So you admit that a sperm or egg is human.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Individual sperm and eggs are not life forms
Dead sperm and egg don't fertilize.
A fetus is a human life form.
As are sperm and egg.
Contrary to your belief that they do, parents haven't the right to
kill their children at ANY stage of their development.
Nobody ever said that they do.
Contrary to YOUR irrational beliefs, NOTHING has the right to use a
person's body without consent while causing them harm.
--
Ray Fischer
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27 Feb 2006 03:57:00 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote in message
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 01:24:47 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Since we are talking about humans what kind of DNA do you think,
idiot?
So you admit that a sperm or egg is human.
They are *of* a human, like all human cells are, but they are not "humans".
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Individual sperm and eggs are not life forms
Dead sperm and egg don't fertilize.
A fetus is a human life form.
As are sperm and egg.
They are not "humans", fetuses are "humans", doing what humans do,
developing, growing, self-repairing, maturing.
Stop equivocating Ray, it's pointless. I'm all over you like white on rice.
Contrary to your belief that they do, parents haven't the right to
kill their children at ANY stage of their development.
Nobody ever said that they do.
Contrary to YOUR irrational beliefs, NOTHING has the right to use a
person's body without consent while causing them harm.
Don't kid yourself, legal abortion is not a slam-dunk right. That's why
people like the pro-choice goons ought to stop playing mind games and get
serious about it if you expect it to remain a right.
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27 Feb 2006 03:20:22 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 01:24:47 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Since we are talking about humans what kind of DNA do you think,
idiot?
So you admit that a sperm or egg is human.
They are *of* a human,
That makes them human.
like all human cells are, but they are not "humans".
Likewise fetuses are not humans.
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Individual sperm and eggs are not life forms
Dead sperm and egg don't fertilize.
A fetus is a human life form.
As are sperm and egg.
They are not "humans",
Didn't say that they were, moron.
fetuses are "humans",
You're lying. That claim has been refuted repeatedly.
Contrary to your belief that they do, parents haven't the right to
kill their children at ANY stage of their development.
Nobody ever said that they do.
Contrary to YOUR irrational beliefs, NOTHING has the right to use a
person's body without consent while causing them harm.
Don't kid yourself,
NOTHING has the right to use a person's body without consent while
causing them harm.
Women are not your slaves, you misogynistic control freak.
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23 Feb 2006 11:37:32 AM |
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote in message
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On 23 Feb 2006 01:24:47 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
You must have worked long and hard to reach the level of ignorance
that you demonstrate. A sperm or an egg can only contain the DNA of
the body that produces it.
What kind of DNA? Is it HUMAN DNA?
Since we are talking about humans what kind of DNA do you think,
idiot?
A fetus has a DNA separate and distinctly
different from either of the parents
Likewise sperm and egg. That's how siblings are not all identical.
Individual sperm and eggs are not life forms They cannot by them
selves develop into a human being. A fetus is a human life form.
Contrary to your belief that they do, parents haven't the right to
kill their children at ANY stage of their development.
Apparently you're wrong as abortion is legal here.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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23 Feb 2006 04:49:39 AM |
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South Dakota passes abortion ban
Wed Feb 22, 10:06 PM ET
SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (Reuters) - South Dakota became the first
U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with
the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973
decision legalizing the procedure.
The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a
five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of
Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue
say he is unlikely to veto it.
***
What say you now you liberal nitwits...
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“Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those
who hustle.”
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23 Feb 2006 11:38:35 AM |
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote in message
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South Dakota passes abortion ban
Wed Feb 22, 10:06 PM ET
SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (Reuters) - South Dakota became the first
U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with
the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973
decision legalizing the procedure.
The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a
five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of
Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue
say he is unlikely to veto it.
***
What say you now you liberal nitwits...
While I'm neither a liberal nor a nitwit, those that want abortions in SD
will now have to go to another state. Big deal.
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24 Feb 2006 03:22:31 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:38:35 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
While I'm neither a liberal nor a nitwit,
Damn! You sure as ***** play the parts well.
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23 Feb 2006 12:52:01 PM |
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<Default@xxx.org> wrote in message
news:0l4rv19469u90ed9irkr6bj6f6e686abo0@4ax.com...
South Dakota passes abortion ban
Wed Feb 22, 10:06 PM ET
SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (Reuters) - South Dakota became the first
U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with
the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973
decision legalizing the procedure.
The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a
five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of
Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue
say he is unlikely to veto it.
***
What say you now you liberal nitwits...
While I'm neither a liberal nor a nitwit, those that want abortions in SD
will now have to go to another state. Big deal.
And if it illegal in the whole US, then people will just have to go to
another country.
Right?
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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24 Feb 2006 03:24:41 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
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26 Feb 2006 02:47:29 AM |
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<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
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26 Feb 2006 05:22:39 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
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26 Feb 2006 11:31:44 AM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:12033rubvgluaeb@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
Liar. Abortion is not about "killing" and you know it Douche.
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27 Feb 2006 02:20:11 AM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9776610DDCAA7SD@70.169.32.36...
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:12033rubvgluaeb@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
Liar. Abortion is not about "killing" and you know it Douche.
Of course it is, abortion is about a woman getting out from under an
unwanted pregnancy by having the fetus removed, killed. One group of people
can only see the benefits of ending the unwanted pregnancy, the other group
can only see the killing, the sides are very polarized. Neither side can
understand or sympathize with the other side, so each resorts to ranting and
accusing the other of hideous things. It's sad to watch. A few people seem
to be able to understand both sides, I happen to be one of them.
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27 Feb 2006 11:01:48 AM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:1205dhreaqh9332@news.supernews.com:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9776610DDCAA7SD@70.169.32.36...
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:12033rubvgluaeb@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position
to legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to
kill others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
Liar. Abortion is not about "killing" and you know it Douche.
Of course it is, abortion is about a woman getting out from under an
unwanted pregnancy by having the fetus removed, killed. One group of
people can only see the benefits of ending the unwanted pregnancy, the
other group can only see the killing, the sides are very polarized.
Neither side can understand or sympathize with the other side, so each
resorts to ranting and accusing the other of hideous things. It's sad
to watch. A few people seem to be able to understand both sides, I
happen to be one of them.
You happen to be an idiot Douche. Have an adult or trusted friend
explain this simple fact to you:
pro-choice (pr½-chois“) adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
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