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15 Feb 2006 12:27:05 AM |
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Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
Further proof that virtue and decency is being embraced by a larger portion
of society's young, and growing stronger every day. Keep up the good work
kids!
http://www.christianpost.com/article/society/2257/section/teens.promote.purity.on.valentines.day/1.htm
Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day
Tuesday, Feb. 14, 2006 Posted: 12:08:23PM EST
Teens and youth will stand up for sexual purity today on Valentine's Day by
taking part in the third annual Day of Purity, organizing events to
encourage their churches, organizations or community to take part.
The national event, which will involve hundreds, was organized by the
Liberty Counsel, a conservative Christian legal firm based in Orlando, Fla.
Youths will participate in various outreach activities to spread the message
of abstinence before marriage
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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27 Feb 2006 06:33:19 PM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:12074vh2eonkg3e@news.supernews.com:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior
position to legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which
is something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to
kill others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
Liar. Abortion is not about "killing" and you know it Douche.
Of course it is, abortion is about a woman getting out from under an
unwanted pregnancy by having the fetus removed, killed. One group of
people can only see the benefits of ending the unwanted pregnancy,
the other group can only see the killing, the sides are very
polarized. Neither side can understand or sympathize with the other
side, so each resorts to ranting and accusing the other of hideous
things. It's sad to watch. A few people seem to be able to
understand both sides, I happen to be one of them.
You happen to be an idiot Douche.
That's not an intelligent response BOB.
Maybe not Douche but at least it's accurate and true.
Have an adult or trusted friend
explain this simple fact to you:
pro-choice (pr½-chois") adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
Why should they need a legal right?
Already answered Douche. Try to keep up.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Feb 2006 07:04:23 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97775C27EB965SD@70.169.32.36...
You happen to be an idiot Douche.
That's not an intelligent response BOB.
But even so it's a response which you barely can understand.
Have an adult or trusted friend
explain this simple fact to you:
pro-choice (pr½-chois") adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
Why should they need a legal right?
The same reason you need legal rights, idiot.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Feb 2006 03:18:27 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9776610DDCAA7SD@70.169.32.36...
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:12033rubvgluaeb@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others, while making abortion illegal would prohibit it.
Liar. Abortion is not about "killing" and you know it Douche.
Of course it is, abortion is about a woman getting out from under an
unwanted pregnancy by having the fetus removed, killed.
And you get out of unwanted parenthood by having children starve to
death.
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Ray Fischer
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Feb 2006 12:15:32 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others,
Which is exactly what you want.
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Ray Fischer
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| User: "Dutch" |
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27 Feb 2006 03:50:57 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position to
legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others,
Which is exactly what you want.
Correct, I want pregnant women to have the right to end their pregnancies,
killing the fetus.
Isn't that what you want?
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| User: "BOB" |
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27 Feb 2006 11:03:26 AM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:1205is0ta4cbk31@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position
to legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others,
Which is exactly what you want.
Correct, I want pregnant women to have the right to end their
pregnancies, killing the fetus.
Isn't that what you want?
You are a stupid, stupid fool Douche. Here is what we want:
pro-choice (pr½-chois“) adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
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| User: "Dutch" |
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27 Feb 2006 06:07:51 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97775C6EEB70FSD@70.169.32.36...
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:1205is0ta4cbk31@news.supernews.com:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior position
to legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which is
something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to kill
others,
Which is exactly what you want.
Correct, I want pregnant women to have the right to end their
pregnancies, killing the fetus.
Isn't that what you want?
You are a stupid, stupid fool Douche.
Why do you say that BOOOOOB?
Here is what we want:
pro-choice (pr½-chois") adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
What are you going to do to change people's minds who believe fetuses
deserve to be protected?
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| User: "BOB" |
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27 Feb 2006 06:43:16 PM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in news:120752nj57act5e@news.supernews.com:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote
<Default@xxx.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2006 18:52:01 GMT, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
And so you justify eliminating ALL human rights.
Excepting in the minds of you barbarians, it's a superior
position to legalizing murder.
But legalizing murder just means eliminating human rights, which
is something that YOU want to do.
Except that legalizing murder would give one person the right to
kill others,
Which is exactly what you want.
Correct, I want pregnant women to have the right to end their
pregnancies, killing the fetus.
Isn't that what you want?
You are a stupid, stupid fool Douche.
Why do you say that BOOOOOB?
Because it's true.
Here is what we want:
pro-choice (pr½-chois") adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
What are you going to do to change people's minds who believe fetuses
deserve to be protected?
We don't expect to change any anti-choice minds because they are already
made up and closed to reason Douche. The pro-choice cause hopes that
intelligent people will recognize the rights of women to control their
own reproductive lifes, without outside intervention by you Taliban
wannabee kooks. It looks like we are winning the good fight for liberty
and personal freedom.
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| User: "Pat Cherback" |
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22 Feb 2006 10:42:43 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Then stop trying to make a right out of a wrong.
huh?
Pro-life advocates have it all
wrong in this respect. Everyone gets it wrong here. There is a simple
set of truths that gets it right.
LOL! YOU know the "truth" and everybody who disagrees is wrong.
In this instance, yes.
Many
people think that they can create convenient, comforting truths, but
those efforts are doomed to fail. Abortion is the taking a human life,
that is the uncomfortable, inconvenient truth.
According to millenia of human social and legal tradition the start
of a human's life is and has been at birth. When you claim otherwise
you are lying.
According to the truth
Your opinion.
Which is the truth.
a fetus is a unique already existing human life,
As is every sperm and egg.
Wrong. Human life will not proceed out of either of those cell
groupings, learn a little biology.
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22 Feb 2006 11:47:31 PM |
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Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
but when you force innocent people to suffer and die then you're being
"moral".
Pro-life advocates have it all
wrong in this respect. Everyone gets it wrong here. There is a simple
set of truths that gets it right.
LOL! YOU know the "truth" and everybody who disagrees is wrong.
In this instance, yes.
And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I
am defending the handiwork of the Lord.
Adolph Hitler -- Mein Kampf
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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23 Feb 2006 03:15:49 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43fd4c73$0$58111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise a
child is immoral. People knew this until a few decades ago. Face up to your
responsibilities as an adult human being, CHILD.
but when you force innocent people to suffer and die then you're being
"moral".
You're the one advocating high-risk sex, AND killing off of human lives.
Pro-life advocates have it all
wrong in this respect. Everyone gets it wrong here. There is a simple
set of truths that gets it right.
LOL! YOU know the "truth" and everybody who disagrees is wrong.
In this instance, yes.
And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I
am defending the handiwork of the Lord.
Adolph Hitler -- Mein Kampf
I'm not religious, and I invoke Godwin. You forfeit this debate.
A few times in a person's life they know that they are right, this is one of
those times for me. Too bad for your fragile ego, but you chose to ride that
pony.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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23 Feb 2006 11:45:48 AM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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23 Feb 2006 11:04:24 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible
viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Feb 2006 02:47:55 AM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible
viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Thus, you are immoral.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
Thus, you are a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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26 Feb 2006 05:32:20 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44016b3b$0$58046$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the
rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible
viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise
a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Thus, you are immoral.
I don't risk causing a crash while driving, I drive carefully and within the
laws.
Attempt at high-school sophistry noted though.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
Thus, you are a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
Non-sequitur, I am not against allowing women the choice of abortion, I am
against lying about it. However, even if I were in favour of making abortion
illegal I would not be a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
First, except in the case of rape, nobody "forces childbirth" on a woman,
she does it herself.
Second, most anti-abortion advocates don't hate women at all, half of them
are women.
Third, making people take responsibility for their own risky behaviour is
not murderous.
Fourth, demanding that people behave in accordance with the laws and morals
of society is not being a control freak.
That's just a bunch of senseless, counter-productive pro-choice goon
rhetoric. All it shows is that you lack the character and/or the intellect
to deal with this issue like an adult.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Feb 2006 12:16:38 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44016b3b$0$58046$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the
rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible
viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be "immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to raise
a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Thus, you are immoral.
I don't risk causing a crash while driving,
Yes you do, liar.
I drive carefully and within the
laws.
Irrelevant. You CANNOT eliminate all risk of a crash.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
Thus, you are a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
Non-sequitur,
Material fact.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
27 Feb 2006 04:01:39 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44016b3b$0$58046$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Pat Cherback <its.raining.truth@gmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual from the point-of-view of the
interests of the
fetus.
Just as rape is non-consensual from the viewpoint of the
rapist.
Rape is non-consensual by definition, from all possible
viewpoints.
Likewise forced childbirth.
That is true, forced childbirth is wrong. Irresponsible sex is
also
wrong.
There's the usual anti-sex prudery.
There's the usual immoral attitude.
Ooooo! Anybody who doesn't have sex as YOU dictate must be
"immoral",
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to
raise
a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Thus, you are immoral.
I don't risk causing a crash while driving,
Yes you do, liar.
I drive carefully and within the
laws.
Irrelevant.
Completely relevevant, it is the ONLY thing that is relevant.
You CANNOT eliminate all risk of a crash.
Nobody is obliged to do the impossible. You are not making sense. You never
do.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
Thus, you are a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
Non-sequitur,
Material fact.
You have a curious definition of the word fact.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
27 Feb 2006 03:22:22 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Anyone who wantonly risks pregnancy when they have no intention to
raise
a
child is immoral.
Anybody who risks causing a crash while driving is immoral.
Quite right.
Thus, you are immoral.
I don't risk causing a crash while driving,
Yes you do, liar.
I drive carefully and within the
laws.
Irrelevant.
Completely relevevant, it is the ONLY thing that is relevant.
How carefully you drive does not change the fact that you risk causing
a crash every time you drive. You are not infallible. The risk of
you making a mistake is real and significant.
By your own words, YOU ARE IMMORAL!
You CANNOT eliminate all risk of a crash.
Nobody is obliged to do the impossible.
Except, apparently, pregnant women.
Anybody who risks a woman's life by forcing childbirth uypon her is
a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
I agree.
Thus, you are a hate-filled, immoral, murderous control freak.
Non-sequitur,
Material fact.
You have a curious definition of the word fact.
I'm using your interpretation.
How do you like it?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
20 Feb 2006 03:49:42 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:41:25 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
A woman seeking any medical procedure from a doctor must sign a
consent form before the procedure is performed.
People have a vested interest in curbing
abuse because they don't want to be abused themselves and want to be
protected from it.
That's essentially correct
Good. Now shut the ***** up.
Society as a whole also has a vested interest in making sure that its
citizenry is protected from abuse so that all members might continue
contributing to the overall welfare of society.
That doesn't add anything to what you said above.
Except what it added, WRT the broader implications of a society
determining what is in its best interests.
My inflated opinion of my own lack of intellect is well-known, and laughable.
Suit yourself, asstrumpet.
And others' sex lives are still none of your damn business.
Until you grow a uterus, shut the ***** up about abortion.
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
20 Feb 2006 04:39:35 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True, from the standpoint of the fetus. Remember the fetus?
People have a vested interest in curbing
abuse because they don't want to be abused themselves and want to be
protected from it.
That's essentially correct
Good.
Yes, as far as it went, too bad you can't take it further.
Now shut the ***** up.
Hop in your time machine and go back to 1937 Germany, you'd like it there,
they had some good methods for silencing opposing voices.
Society as a whole also has a vested interest in making sure that its
citizenry is protected from abuse so that all members might continue
contributing to the overall welfare of society.
That doesn't add anything to what you said above.
Except what it added, WRT the broader implications of a society
determining what is in its best interests.
It fails to consider that the broader implications to society are secondary
to fundamental human rights.
Here's where you beg the question again. <insert>
Your inflated opinion of your own lack of intellect is well-known, and
laughable.
Suit yourself
It doesn't suit me, it wastes my time. I don't need any more mild amusement
from usenet cuntwads.
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
20 Feb 2006 06:34:46 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:39:35 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True,
Thank you for agreeing that abortion is a consensual elective surgical
procedure, requiring the woman's consent before the procedure.
And I bet you were hoping that you had more to add, too. Very sad. LOL
<flush Duchess' crapfest 2 end>
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
20 Feb 2006 11:50:00 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:qunkv1p93rd7hm1sirdknatkbp408873t5@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:39:35 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True,
Thank you
Don't mention it, anytime you want your illusions adjusted just give me a
shout, cuntwad.
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 01:48:00 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:50:00 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:qunkv1p93rd7hm1sirdknatkbp408873t5@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:39:35 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True,
Thank you for agreeing that abortion is a
consensual elective surgical procedure, requiring
the woman's consent before the procedure.
Don't mention it,
I won't.
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 02:39:58 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:thrmv1p4r7f14r388mn7jibsdv7lrpk7oa@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:50:00 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:qunkv1p93rd7hm1sirdknatkbp408873t5@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:39:35 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True,
Thank you for agreeing that abortion is a
consensual elective surgical procedure, requiring
the woman's consent before the procedure.
Don't mention it,
I won't.
You already did. You're not welcome.
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 02:43:58 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:39:58 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:thrmv1p4r7f14r388mn7jibsdv7lrpk7oa@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:50:00 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote in message
news:qunkv1p93rd7hm1sirdknatkbp408873t5@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:39:35 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
<no@email.com>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Why don't adults shut up about child abuse?
Abuse is non-consensual.
Abortion is non-consensual
False.
True,
Thank you for agreeing that abortion is a
consensual elective surgical procedure, requiring
the woman's consent before the procedure.
Don't mention it,
I won't.
You already did.
So did you. LOL
You're not welcome.
Typical ingrate christstain.
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 03:32:22 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Typical
Congratulations, you have successfully diverted the discussion away from the
deliberate taking of innocent human lives.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 04:20:24 PM |
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Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Typical
Congratulations, you have successfully diverted the discussion away from the
deliberate taking of innocent human lives.
Notice the pro-liar demonization: He cannot defend his immoral
ideology and his lies and attempts to demonize others by calling them
killers.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 04:46:57 PM |
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On 21 Feb 2006 22:20:24 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Typical
Congratulations, you have successfully diverted the discussion away from the
deliberate taking of innocent human lives.
Notice the pro-liar demonization: He cannot defend his immoral
ideology and his lies and attempts to demonize others by calling them
killers.
Of course he does, even though he's too fucking stupid to realize that
he is the real killer.
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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| User: "Pat Cherback" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 06:47:01 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Typical
Congratulations, you have successfully diverted the discussion away from the
deliberate taking of innocent human lives.
Notice the pro-liar demonization:
If the shoe fits.
He cannot defend his immoral
ideology and his lies and attempts to demonize others by calling them
killers.
Calling the taking of lives killing is telling the truth. Why are you
afraid to hear the truth?
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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| Title: Re: Teens Promote Purity on Valentine's Day |
21 Feb 2006 10:52:37 PM |
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On 21 Feb 2006 16:47:01 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Pat
Cherback" <its.raining.truth@gmail.com>
Ray Fischer wrote:
Dutch <no@email.com> wrote:
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote
Typical
Congratulations, you have successfully diverted the discussion away from the
deliberate taking of innocent human lives.
Notice the pro-liar demonization:
If the shoe fits.
He cannot defend his immoral
ideology and his lies and attempts to demonize others by calling them
killers.
Calling the taking of lives killing is telling the truth. Why are you
afraid to hear the truth?
If you want to believe that a cluster of cells gestating in a body is
alive, then feel free.
BUT -- you better never ever take antibiotics.
The whooshing sound you're hearing --that'd be comprehension flying
over your pointy little christstain head.
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
Pope Leo X
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