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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 22 Jan 2006 07:43:10 PM
Object: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend
What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the corpse,
thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive ), and now
marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who supposedly was helping keep
an eye on Terri's loving parents. Something's rotten here.
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1291.html
Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend
Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- It was the ultimate slap in the face to
Terri Schiavo's parents. While they were spending years in a heart-wrenching
battle to save their daughter's life, her estranged husband was having an
affair with a woman and eventually had two children with her. The couple got
married on Saturday.
Michael Schiavo and Jodi Centonze were married on Saturday in a private
ceremony at a small church.
Michael won the years-long legal battle in his effort to euthanize Terri and
she died from a nearly two week long painful starvation and dehydration
death at the end of March.
"It was very emotional," John Centonze told the Associated Press after the
brief wedding. "It's been a long time coming. A lot of things happened in
between."
The couple applied for a marriage license on Friday and did not make any
public statements. The two met at a dentist's office after Michael put Terri
in a nursing home for long-term care -- 10 years before Terri was killed.
On the license, Michael indicated his last marriage ended in death on March
31, 2005. Centonze was divorced in 1989.
Michael Hirsh, who is helping Michael write a book, said about 80 people
attended.
Jodi played a role during the battle between Michael and Terri's family and
was often designated to be the person in the room whenever Terri's family
would visit her in the hospital or her nursing home. The Schiavo family
found that insulting.
In the final couple of days leading up to Terri's death, her mother, Mary
Schiavo, pleaded with Michael and Jodi to move on and let her and her family
care for Terri.
"Michael and Jodi, you have your own children. Please, please give my child
back to me," she said.
Michael also refused repeated requests from Terri's family to divorce her.
Had he done so he would have lost any right to control her medical care and
obtain the remainder of a $1.5 million malpractice award.
Since Terri's death, Michael has created a political action committee he
says will target pro-life lawmakers who helped Terri's family try to care
for their daughter.
--
"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
.

User: "Lörd Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 09:09:55 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:odSdnaP9BP0TqUnenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com:

What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the corpse,
thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive ), and now
marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who supposedly was helping
keep an eye on Terri's loving parents. Something's rotten here.

That would be YOU, *****.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 10:24:44 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive ),
and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who supposedly was
helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents. Something's rotten
here.

Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded something
you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just like I married
my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word 'supposedly' it mean your
pulling something out of your *****.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Religion is but a desperate attempt to find an escape from the truly
dreadful situation in which we find ourselves. Here we are in this wholly
fantastic universe with scarcely a clue as to whether our existence has
any real significance. No wonder then that many people feel the need for
some belief that gives them a sense of security, and no wonder that they
become very angry with people like me who say that this is illusory.
-- Fred Hoyle
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 10:27:43 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive ),
and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who supposedly was
helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents. Something's rotten
here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded something
you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just like I married
my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word 'supposedly' it mean your
pulling something out of your *****.

Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA?
Got ran out of Japan or Africa?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors were sold into slavery.
Don't you think it is time you went home?


--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0

Religion is but a desperate attempt to find an escape from the truly
dreadful situation in which we find ourselves. Here we are in this wholly
fantastic universe with scarcely a clue as to whether our existence has
any real significance. No wonder then that many people feel the need for
some belief that gives them a sense of security, and no wonder that they
become very angry with people like me who say that this is illusory.
-- Fred Hoyle

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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 10:32:24 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA?
Got ran out of Japan or Africa?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors were sold into slavery.
Don't you think it is time you went home?

I am home.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The Jews, Muslims and Christians got it all wrong. The people of the
world only divide into two kinds: one sort with brains and no religion,
the other with religion and no brains."

-- Abul Al Mali, Syrian poet
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 10:35:16 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA?
Got ran out of Japan or Africa?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors were sold into slavery.
Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.

Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0

"The Jews, Muslims and Christians got it all wrong. The people of the
world only divide into two kinds: one sort with brains and no religion,
the other with religion and no brains."

-- Abul Al Mali, Syrian poet

.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 11:02:29 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said

her

brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA?
Got ran out of Japan or Africa?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors were sold into slavery.
Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.

Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?
--
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http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
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ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
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of intelligence.

-- Bertrand Russell
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 22 Jan 2006 11:38:11 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.

Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.

Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?

I am home.

Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.

Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?

You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny") is
from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance of
thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible there,
either.
--
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 03:00:12 PM
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is
from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of
thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there,
either.

Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 05:05:06 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.

Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.

Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?

I am home.

Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.

Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?

You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there, either.

Why is it that you assume so much?

I don't have to assume very much when dealing with you. You remove the
doubts.

Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?

That has nothing to do with your inability to understand statistics, as Mark
pointed out.

Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.

Of course, it completely escapes you that for all you know, South Carolina
could have been 50th, and even with their population growth, that might loft
them all the way up to 49th.

Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.

....which means nothing, given your innumeracy. (Of course, with your efforts
to make South Carolina number ONE in stupidity - which effort is failing,
fortunately - we'll never be lacking for amusement at your antics. Anderson's
definitely not being deprived.)
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 09:26:35 PM
In article <1rbBf.8987$C%3.5283@bignews2.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:

You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is
from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of
thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there,
either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.

The poorest county in the United States is in South Carolina. And then
there is the racism.
.
User: "Vandar"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 09:32:01 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1rbBf.8987$C%3.5283@bignews2.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is
from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of
thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there,
either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.



The poorest county in the United States is in South Carolina. And then
there is the racism.

If you're using per capita income, the poorest county is in South Dakota.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 12:19:00 AM
Vandar wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1rbBf.8987$C%3.5283@bignews2.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is
from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of
thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there,
either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.



The poorest county in the United States is in South Carolina. And then
there is the racism.


If you're using per capita income, the poorest county is in South Dakota.

Here are some interesting stats...
http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/100_lowest_income.html
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User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 08:15:58 AM
osprey lied:

interesting
"One last note: I am very surprised at your reaction especially after
just a few short months ago I provided a copy of my DD214 Right in
box 18...1st line it says... SERVED 2 AUG 90 TO 1 OCT 94 IN SUPPORT
OF OPERATION DESERT SHIELD/STORM and in box 13 NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE
MEDAL Funny how you have selective memory, why? Yes, I served in combat
during Desert Storm."

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/38f5de5691243868?dmode=source&hl=en


"Fine, if you want to play on words...no I was not in actual "combat" "

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/db12fe6b6ec66a35?dmode=source&hl=en

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User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 03:13:45 PM
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky ("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even credible
there, either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.

However, those figures deal with percentage of growth, and do not
account for relative position or starting point. A state in dead last
economically that has a growth of 50% over a 3 year period, and rises
from 50th place to 48th place overall still has an economy that sucks,
even if it did have the fastest growing economy. And a state that is
placed 5th overall, and has an economic growth of 10% over 3 years and
rises to 4th place overall still has a strong economy.
Try also looking at the raw data, including starting and ending places.
It is much easier to get a great deal of growth from a position near
the bottom than it is from a position near the top. The states that
are doing the best economically are already doing things right, and
there is little that they can improve on that will result in large
changes in growth. However, a state that is near the bottom
economically is doing many things wrong, and by looking at what the
states that are doing things right are doing, they can make some
changes that result in a great deal of growth very quickly.
Your statistic tells me that your state has been floundering
economically, and needs major changes in how things are run. However,
I seriously doubt that you will understand this lesson in one of the
ways that statistics can be made to lie.
Mark Sebree

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 0 (January 22)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, January 24 at Peoria, 7:05

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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 11:04:52 PM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was
inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said
her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your
ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky
("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an
overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even
credible
there, either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you
would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would
be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.


However, those figures deal with percentage of growth, and do not
account for relative position or starting point. A state in dead last
economically that has a growth of 50% over a 3 year period, and rises
from 50th place to 48th place overall still has an economy that sucks,

LOL!
You so sure about that?
You think growing economies suck?

even if it did have the fastest growing economy. And a state that is
placed 5th overall, and has an economic growth of 10% over 3 years and
rises to 4th place overall still has a strong economy.

Which still does nothing to suggest that the people of an area in SC are
somehow lacking in proper thought.

Try also looking at the raw data, including starting and ending places.
It is much easier to get a great deal of growth from a position near
the bottom than it is from a position near the top.

Try not insulting the people of the area I live in.

The states that are doing the best economically are already doing things
right, and
there is little that they can improve on that will result in large
changes in growth.
However, a state that is near the bottom
economically is doing many things wrong,

Hmm. So, now you are acting as if the entire North was doing many things
wrongs prior to the civil war, huh?, being that the South was contributing
12 percent more of the USA's GDP than the North contributed at the time.

and by looking at what the
states that are doing things right are doing, they can make some
changes that result in a great deal of growth very quickly.

You mean as in invading neighboring states and causing a depression?

Your statistic tells me that your state has been floundering
economically, and needs major changes in how things are run.

Same old crap directed at successful economic mangement.
Why is it you think outsiders know better how to handle an economy than the
people who live there?

However, I seriously doubt that you will understand this lesson in one of
the
ways that statistics can be made to lie.

That is the conclusion of your writing?
Your innuendo that you assume that you taught me anything is quite
ERRONEOUS!
I understood all of it.


Mark Sebree

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston,
Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 0 (January 22)
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User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 23 Jan 2006 11:56:42 PM
Johnny wrote:

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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was
inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her said
her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain, no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend, just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your
ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky
("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an
overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even
credible
there, either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you
would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area would
be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously 'think'
should be insulted.


However, those figures deal with percentage of growth, and do not
account for relative position or starting point. A state in dead last
economically that has a growth of 50% over a 3 year period, and rises
from 50th place to 48th place overall still has an economy that sucks,


LOL!
You so sure about that?

Yes. Unlike you, I have studied math and statistics.

You think growing economies suck?

No. But an economy that is ranked 48th out of 50 overall does suck.
Just as I said.

even if it did have the fastest growing economy. And a state that is
placed 5th overall, and has an economic growth of 10% over 3 years and
rises to 4th place overall still has a strong economy.


Which still does nothing to suggest that the people of an area in SC are
somehow lacking in proper thought.

You take care of showing that some people in SC are lacking in proper
thought by what you write and how you reply. I never named SC in my
example, or any other state. I have no idea where SC is ranked. I was
just explaining how the statistics you provided can be used to lie.
What's more, the numbers I used were pulled out of thin air in order to
illustrate my point.
Perhaps if you actually read and comprehended what I wrote and gave it
proper thought, you would not continue to demonstrate that there are
people in your area of SC are lacking in proper thought.


Try also looking at the raw data, including starting and ending places.
It is much easier to get a great deal of growth from a position near
the bottom than it is from a position near the top.


Try not insulting the people of the area I live in.

I wasn't. I never named your state, you did. I was showing how what
you claimed was flawed, and that it is easier to show higher relative
growth from a low starting point than it is from a higher one.
You insult the people in the area in which you live nearly every time
you post to Usenet, by both your words and attitude. This reply of
yours is a good example of the insult you give to your state.


The states that are doing the best economically are already doing things
right, and there is little that they can improve on that will result in large
changes in growth. However, a state that is near the bottom
economically is doing many things wrong,


Hmm. So, now you are acting as if the entire North was doing many things
wrongs prior to the civil war, huh?, being that the South was contributing
12 percent more of the USA's GDP than the North contributed at the time.

What are you talking about now? I never said or implied any of those
things. I never named any states or regions. I only used abstract
numbers and ratios.
Besides, how a state was doing 150 years ago has no bearing on how it
is doing now. Living in former glory days is a sure recipe for
failure.


and by looking at what the
states that are doing things right are doing, they can make some
changes that result in a great deal of growth very quickly.


You mean as in invading neighboring states and causing a depression?

No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.
If you don't want people to get the wrong impression about your area,
then don't work so hard to present that impression.


Your statistic tells me that your state has been floundering
economically, and needs major changes in how things are run.


Same old crap directed at successful economic mangement.

"Crap" that often works. That is why intelligent people look to see
what those before have done, and what has and has not worked.

Why is it you think outsiders know better how to handle an economy than the
people who live there?

Continuing to flaunt your ignorance, I see. I never said anything
about outsiders coming in and running things. I said that the people
already there can look at what successful states are doing, and then
work to adapt and apply similar solutions to their problems. Such
applications are likely to have large relative gains in relatively
short time periods since the groups applying the solutions are starting
from a much lower level than the originators.


However, I seriously doubt that you will understand this lesson in one of
the ways that statistics can be made to lie.


That is the conclusion of your writing?

That is my conclusion from having read what you write, and how you
respond to others, especially those that are trying to explain
something to you. While it was the end of my post, the stated
conclusion comes from your own posting history. A conclusion that you
bore out in your reply to me.

Your innuendo that you assume that you taught me anything is quite
ERRONEOUS!

Well, the best teacher in the world cannot teach a student that refuses
to learn. The fault in such a case lies with the student, not the
teacher. Quite frankly, I figured that you would understand nothing of
what I said, nor learn anything from it. However, your inane replies
would serve to drive more people away from you and your agenda by
showing them how far out from reality you actually are.

I understood all of it.

You can't prove it by your words. Nothing you said shows that you
understand any of what I said. You saw innuendo where none existed.
You saw attacks that were not there. You saw specificity where there
was only generalities. You saw things that were never written or
implied.
By all appearances that you gave, you in fact understood none of it.
Mark Sebree



Mark Sebree

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston,
Texas
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 08:12:01 AM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

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Johnny wrote:

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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in news:G%YAf.2497$vp6.959
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates
the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was
inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her
said
her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain,
no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend,
just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got
ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your
ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went
home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make
to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky
("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an
overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even
credible
there, either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you
would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area
would
be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously
'think'
should be insulted.


However, those figures deal with percentage of growth, and do not
account for relative position or starting point. A state in dead last
economically that has a growth of 50% over a 3 year period, and rises
from 50th place to 48th place overall still has an economy that sucks,


LOL!
You so sure about that?


Yes.

Why are you so firmly convinced of your *****?
You said that growing economies suck.
Read what you wrote.

Unlike you, I have studied math and statistics.

Your lie is condemnable.

You think growing economies suck?


No.

Contradiction noted.

But an economy that is ranked 48th out of 50 overall does suck.

What a joke you are.

Just as I said.

How do you know?
Some people think excessive growth sucks.
Who cares about enriching assholes to make them richer?
If you need something done, do it yourself.
Low wage jobs to support unskilled infidels such as yourself are what suck.

even if it did have the fastest growing economy. And a state that is
placed 5th overall, and has an economic growth of 10% over 3 years and
rises to 4th place overall still has a strong economy.


Which still does nothing to suggest that the people of an area in SC are
somehow lacking in proper thought.


You take care of showing that some people in SC are lacking in proper
thought by what you write and how you reply.

Actually, what I did was defend the people of my area against a
disrespectful lazy coward's report of them.

I never named SC in my
example, or any other state.

Your post to me was completely unnecessary then; and, there is nothning you
wrote that I did not already have knowledge of, but your continued display
of your disrespectful outlook on so many persons again showed me your lack
of common decency.

I have no idea where SC is ranked. I was
just explaining how the statistics you provided can be used to lie.

Actually, you didn't write very well if your intent was to say that
statistics can be used to lie.

What's more, the numbers I used were pulled out of thin air in order to
illustrate my point.

Which sums up the gist of your posts, thin air.

Perhaps if you actually read and comprehended what I wrote and gave it
proper thought, you would not continue to demonstrate that there are
people in your area of SC are lacking in proper thought.


Try also looking at the raw data, including starting and ending places.
It is much easier to get a great deal of growth from a position near
the bottom than it is from a position near the top.


Try not insulting the people of the area I live in.


I wasn't. I never named your state, you did. I was showing how what
you claimed was flawed, and that it is easier to show higher relative
growth from a low starting point than it is from a higher one.

You insult the people in the area in which you live nearly every time
you post to Usenet, by both your words and attitude. This reply of
yours is a good example of the insult you give to your state.


The states that are doing the best economically are already doing
things
right, and there is little that they can improve on that will result in
large
changes in growth. However, a state that is near the bottom
economically is doing many things wrong,


Hmm. So, now you are acting as if the entire North was doing many things
wrongs prior to the civil war, huh?, being that the South was
contributing
12 percent more of the USA's GDP than the North contributed at the time.


What are you talking about now? I never said or implied any of those
things. I never named any states or regions. I only used abstract
numbers and ratios.

Besides, how a state was doing 150 years ago has no bearing on how it
is doing now. Living in former glory days is a sure recipe for
failure.


and by looking at what the
states that are doing things right are doing, they can make some
changes that result in a great deal of growth very quickly.


You mean as in invading neighboring states and causing a depression?


No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.

Sumter, peon.

If you don't want people to get the wrong impression about your area,
then don't work so hard to present that impression.

You are insane.


Your statistic tells me that your state has been floundering
economically, and needs major changes in how things are run.


Same old crap directed at successful economic mangement.


"Crap" that often works. That is why intelligent people look to see
what those before have done, and what has and has not worked.

Why is it you think outsiders know better how to handle an economy than
the
people who live there?


Continuing to flaunt your ignorance, I see. I never said anything
about outsiders coming in and running things.

You routinely butt your stubborn head into the affairs of others when it is
not welcome.

I said that the people already there can look at what successful states
are doing, and then
work to adapt and apply similar solutions to their problems.

Mountain out of a molehill is what you did.
You really suck at formal debate.

Such applications are likely to have large relative gains in relatively
short time periods since the groups applying the solutions are starting
from a much lower level than the originators.

You lost track, again.


However, I seriously doubt that you will understand this lesson in one
of
the ways that statistics can be made to lie.


That is the conclusion of your writing?


That is my conclusion from having read what you write, and how you
respond to others, especially those that are trying to explain
something to you.

I do NOT need you to attempt to explain anything to me unless I ask for an
explanation from you.
You are not needed by me.
I simple do NOT need your erroneous mind trying to teach me things I already
know.

While it was the end of my post, the stated
conclusion comes from your own posting history. A conclusion that you
bore out in your reply to me.

Your innuendo that you assume that you taught me anything is quite
ERRONEOUS!


Well, the best teacher in the world cannot teach a student that refuses
to learn.

You are really an idiot.

The fault in such a case lies with the student, not the
teacher.

You are not nor ever were my teacher.

Quite frankly, I figured that you would understand nothing of
what I said, nor learn anything from it.

Which tells the whole world that your 'figuring' skills are in error, again.

However, your inane replies
would serve to drive more people away from you and your agenda by
showing them how far out from reality you actually are.

You are stuck.
Whrr, whrr, whrr, you can't get out of that ditch you got yourself in.
You are still in it, churning your wheels.

I understood all of it.


You can't prove it by your words. Nothing you said shows that you
understand any of what I said. You saw innuendo where none existed.
You saw attacks that were not there. You saw specificity where there
was only generalities. You saw things that were never written or
implied.

By all appearances that you gave, you in fact understood none of it.

Mark Sebree

A liar.




Mark Sebree

--
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Texas
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User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 09:49:28 AM
Johnny wrote:

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Johnny wrote:

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Johnny wrote:

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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
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What a cad! Fights a legal battle to kill his wife, cremates
the
corpse, thereby raising suspicions ( first autopsy was
inconclusive
), and now marries his longtime mistress; the same gal who
supposedly was helping keep an eye on Terri's loving parents.
Something's rotten here.


Not one truth in your screed. Every doctor who examined her
said
her
brain was mud, there were no higher brain functions, no pain,
no
awareness. The autopsy was not inconclusive, it just concluded
something you don't want to hear. He married his girlfriend,
just
like I married my girlfriend. And whenever you use the word
'supposedly' it mean your pulling something out of your *****.


Why do atheists from other nations seek asylum in the USA? Got
ran
out
of Japan or Africa? LOL!!!!!!!! Oh, no. Don't tell me your
ancestors
were sold into slavery. Don't you think it is time you went
home?


I am home.


Were you born here?
If not then you have no qualification to be President of the USA.


Balboa Naval Hospital, San Diego, CA. What difference does to make
to
you?


You have to take under consideration the details: John Wentzky
("Johnny")
is from a region of the country not particularly known for an
overabundance
of thought: western South Carolina. Fortunately, he's not even
credible
there, either.


Why is it that you assume so much?
Do you think that having the fastest growing economy in the entire USA
indicates that people in my region are lacking in proper thought?
Maybe if people in ALL OTHER areas woulda worked as much as we do you
would
be able to attain such a status.
Notice that number ONE means number ONE, and that every other area
would
be
achieving less growth than the area whose people you erroneously
'think'
should be insulted.


However, those figures deal with percentage of growth, and do not
account for relative position or starting point. A state in dead last
economically that has a growth of 50% over a 3 year period, and rises
from 50th place to 48th place overall still has an economy that sucks,


LOL!
You so sure about that?


Yes.


Why are you so firmly convinced of your *****?

Because it is not "*****".

You said that growing economies suck.

No. I said economies that are rated 48th out of 50 suck.

Read what you wrote.

I have. I know what I wrote. I cannot help what your faulty
interpretations.


Unlike you, I have studied math and statistics.


Your lie is condemnable.

There is no lie in evidence.


You think growing economies suck?


No.


Contradiction noted.

No contradiction in evidence.


But an economy that is ranked 48th out of 50 overall does suck.


What a joke you are.

You are the only joke in this thread, as you continue to demonstrate.


Just as I said.


How do you know?

Because I said it originally. And we are talking about a comparative
and ordered rating. The amount of growth has less meaning than the
actual ranking, and both datums together have more meaning than either
alone.

Some people think excessive growth sucks.

No doubt you are one of those people.

Who cares about enriching assholes to make them richer?

Well, nobody is enriching you, so obviously nobody cares about it for
you.

If you need something done, do it yourself.

I do. That is why I am employed. That does not mean that I cannot
learn from others that have been successful.

Low wage jobs to support unskilled infidels such as yourself are what suck.

What do you consider a "low wage job", and what do you consider to be
an "unskilled infidel"? I make over $25/hour before per diem, and I
have a Masters degree in my high-tech field and almost a decade's worth
of experience.
Again, you show your ignorance and hatred. The USA cannot have any
infidels by definition, since we are a secular nation.

even if it did have the fastest growing economy. And a state that is
placed 5th overall, and has an economic growth of 10% over 3 years and
rises to 4th place overall still has a strong economy.


Which still does nothing to suggest that the people of an area in SC are
somehow lacking in proper thought.


You take care of showing that some people in SC are lacking in proper
thought by what you write and how you reply.


Actually, what I did was defend the people of my area against a
disrespectful lazy coward's report of them.

Actually, you are the disrespectful, lazy coward and you were showing a
complete lack of proper thought, thus showing that at least some people
in your area are lacking in proper thought. I NEVER specified that I
was talking about South Carolina directly in my original post. I was
addressing YOUR use of statistics to lie and to present a false image
of your state.

I never named SC in my
example, or any other state.


Your post to me was completely unnecessary then;

No, it was not. You were trying to use a single statistic to deceive.

and, there is nothning you
wrote that I did not already have knowledge of,

However, you did not display any knowledge of it, and my post was more
directed at others to illustrate how statistics can lie, and how you
are deceptive and hateful in nature. You have continued to show the
second point very well with your replies to me.

but your continued display
of your disrespectful outlook

There is nothing that I said that was disrespectful. But then, you
consider telling the truth, especially truth that you dislike, to be
disrespectful. If you want respect, you need to start showing respect
for others.

on so many persons again showed me your lack
of common decency.

I have far more common decency that you have ever shown.

I have no idea where SC is ranked. I was
just explaining how the statistics you provided can be used to lie.


Actually, you didn't write very well if your intent was to say that
statistics can be used to lie.

I got my point across to those that are intelligent and not delusional.
The fact that you read things that are not there is not my fault, nor
is there anything that I can do about it.


What's more, the numbers I used were pulled out of thin air in order to
illustrate my point.


Which sums up the gist of your posts, thin air.

There is far more substance to my posts than yours. My posts are
intelligent and reasoned, and in this case, include the intent to
teach. Your posts are just examples of delusions, hatred, intolerance,
and ignorance.


Perhaps if you actually read and comprehended what I wrote and gave it
proper thought, you would not continue to demonstrate that there are
people in your area of SC are lacking in proper thought.


Try also looking at the raw data, including starting and ending places.
It is much easier to get a great deal of growth from a position near
the bottom than it is from a position near the top.


Try not insulting the people of the area I live in.


I wasn't. I never named your state, you did. I was showing how what
you claimed was flawed, and that it is easier to show higher relative
growth from a low starting point than it is from a higher one.

You insult the people in the area in which you live nearly every time
you post to Usenet, by both your words and attitude. This reply of
yours is a good example of the insult you give to your state.


The states that are doing the best economically are already doing
things
right, and there is little that they can improve on that will result in
large
changes in growth. However, a state that is near the bottom
economically is doing many things wrong,


Hmm. So, now you are acting as if the entire North was doing many things
wrongs prior to the civil war, huh?, being that the South was
contributing
12 percent more of the USA's GDP than the North contributed at the time.


What are you talking about now? I never said or implied any of those
things. I never named any states or regions. I only used abstract
numbers and ratios.

Besides, how a state was doing 150 years ago has no bearing on how it
is doing now. Living in former glory days is a sure recipe for
failure.


and by looking at what the
states that are doing things right are doing, they can make some
changes that result in a great deal of growth very quickly.


You mean as in invading neighboring states and causing a depression?


No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.


Sumter, peon.

So I am trying to remember history that I learned over 25 years ago.
You did not even remember that it was the South that fired first and
started the war. In a war, armies invade their enemy's territory. The
South invited the invasion by starting the war.


If you don't want people to get the wrong impression about your area,
then don't work so hard to present that impression.


You are insane.

You would have a hard time proving it. Besides, my statement is
accurate and factual.



Your statistic tells me that your state has been floundering
economically, and needs major changes in how things are run.


Same old crap directed at successful economic mangement.


"Crap" that often works. That is why intelligent people look to see
what those before have done, and what has and has not worked.

Why is it you think outsiders know better how to handle an economy than
the
people who live there?


Continuing to flaunt your ignorance, I see. I never said anything
about outsiders coming in and running things.


You routinely butt your stubborn head into the affairs of others when it is
not welcome.

I am not the one that wants to control others and tell them what they
can and cannot do. I am not the one that thinks that my interpretation
of the Constitution is right and all others, including the
interpretations of the courts, are wrong. I am not the one that cannot
support my premises with objective facts, logic, and reason. I am not
the one that hates the freedoms and liberties that others enjoy. You
are all those things, not me.
Or perhaps you just object to the fact that I and others are effective
at showing others what a loon you are by giving you a chance to display
your lunacy and delusions.
Remember, the First Amendment gives me the right to speak freely in a
public forum, which this is. Your ignorance is no excuse for denying
me the right to point out your ignorance and giving you ample
opportunities to display it.


I said that the people already there can look at what successful states
are doing, and then
work to adapt and apply similar solutions to their problems.


Mountain out of a molehill is what you did.

Actually, that is what you did. I gave an explanation about why your
single statistic is essentially meaningless, and you read far more into
it than I said, include items that could not even be implied by what I
said. Your created the mountain, and you are the one that must bear
its weight.

You really suck at formal debate.

I am orders of magnitude better at it than you are.


Such applications are likely to have large relative gains in relatively
short time periods since the groups applying the solutions are starting
from a much lower level than the originators.


You lost track, again.

No, I did not. I tried to pull it back on track to what I originally
said. You are the one that is heading off into the weeds, not me. I
am just trying to explain that you are off in the weeds again.



However, I seriously doubt that you will understand this lesson in one
of
the ways that statistics can be made to lie.


That is the conclusion of your writing?


That is my conclusion from having read what you write, and how you
respond to others, especially those that are trying to explain
something to you.


I do NOT need you to attempt to explain anything to me unless I ask for an
explanation from you.

Yes, you do. There are many thing that you do not seem to understand.
Besides, since this is an open, public forum, others may learn what you
refuse to.

You are not needed by me.

You need me more than you think. Your ignorance is writ large.
Besides, I cannot allow hatred and intolerance such as yours to
flourish unchallenged.

I simple do NOT need your erroneous mind trying to teach me things I already
know.

You have not shown any evidence of knowing what I was trying to teach
you. Besides, you have not shown that anything that I have said was in
any way erroneous. You have simply read things that were not in what I
said, and then responded to your delusions. That makes your mind the
one that is "erroneous", not mine.


While it was the end of my post, the stated
conclusion comes from your own posting history. A conclusion that you
bore out in your reply to me.

Your innuendo that you assume that you taught me anything is quite
ERRONEOUS!


Well, the best teacher in the world cannot teach a student that refuses
to learn.


You are really an idiot.

No, I am not. The statement that I made was a fact. You are a student
that refuses to learn, as you have shown countless times. You have not
shown that anything that I have stated was in any way erroneous, but
you continue to say that it is. This actually implies that what I said
was quite correct, and that you do not like those facts but cannot
dispute them in an intelligent manner. That leaves you with
misinterpretations, lies, and ad hominems.


The fault in such a case lies with the student, not the
teacher.


You are not nor ever were my teacher.

I have tried to teach you many things at different times, mostly with
the goal of improving the quality of your posts. That does make me a
teacher. The fact that you completely refuse to learn indicates that
you are a poor student.


Quite frankly, I figured that you would understand nothing of
what I said, nor learn anything from it.


Which tells the whole world that your 'figuring' skills are in error, again.

Actually, when others read your posts and replies, and then compare it
to what I said, they see that I have you pegged "eight ways from
Sunday".


However, your inane replies
would serve to drive more people away from you and your agenda by
showing them how far out from reality you actually are.


You are stuck.

No, I am not. I am merely telling you what sane and intelligent
people's reactions to your posts are likely to be. I cannot help the
fact that you cannot understand this, and that you have to resort to ad
hominems when confronted with the truth.


Whrr, whrr, whrr, you can't get out of that ditch you got yourself in.
You are still in it, churning your wheels.

I am not in a ditch. I am the one looking down into the deep, dark
hole that you have dug for yourself in your life, and I pity you that
you refuse to take any of the ropes offered to you to help you out of
it, but rather you insist on digging yourself even deeper down. I am
also trying to prevent others from falling into your pit.



I understood all of it.


You can't prove it by your words. Nothing you said shows that you
understand any of what I said. You saw innuendo where none existed.
You saw attacks that were not there. You saw specificity where there
was only generalities. You saw things that were never written or
implied.

By all appearances that you gave, you in fact understood none of it.

Mark Sebree


A liar.

Prove it. You have never been able to in the post, probably because I
do not lie. On the other hand, there are many negative adjectives that
aptly and accurately describe you.
If you think I am a liar, then PROVE IT! Your opinon on the matter is
worthless without evidence.
Mark Sebree




Mark Sebree

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Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 01:15:41 PM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> writes:

Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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[...]

No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.

Sumter, peon.

So I am trying to remember history that I learned over 25 years ago.
You did not even remember that it was the South that fired first and
started the war. In a war, armies invade their enemy's territory. The
South invited the invasion by starting the war.

It was Fort Sumter, SC...and Johnny, who lives in South Carolina (albeit a bit
removed from the mouth of the Cooper below Charleston, along which the
Ft. Sumter National Monument resides), didn't have enough upstairs to figure
out *that* error. It's a testament to his lack of brains that he couldn't get
that basic fact right, but someone who's been to South Carolina twice in going
on 51 years had no problem with it. Keep up the good work in inducing him to
show the world the empty space between his ears.
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 06:42:45 PM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> writes:

Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1138082202.369975.25150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


[...]

No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.


Sumter, peon.


So I am trying to remember history that I learned over 25 years ago.
You did not even remember that it was the South that fired first and
started the war. In a war, armies invade their enemy's territory. The
South invited the invasion by starting the war.


It was Fort Sumter, SC...and Johnny, who lives in South Carolina (albeit a
bit
removed from the mouth of the Cooper below Charleston, along which the
Ft. Sumter National Monument resides), didn't have enough upstairs to
figure
out *that* error. It's a testament to his lack of brains that he couldn't
get
that basic fact right, but someone who's been to South Carolina twice in
going
on 51 years had no problem with it. Keep up the good work in inducing him
to
show the world the empty space between his ears.

Correcting one word does not indicate to me that I was wrong in any way.
If he had typed Fourt Sumner would correcting it to Fort Sumter have clued
you in?


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Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 24 Jan 2006 10:32:47 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> writes:

Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1138082202.369975.25150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

[...]

No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.

Sumter, peon.

Peon? He's making far more than you ever will.

So I am trying to remember history that I learned over 25 years ago.
You did not even remember that it was the South that fired first and
started the war. In a war, armies invade their enemy's territory. The
South invited the invasion by starting the war.

It was Fort Sumter, SC...and Johnny, who lives in South Carolina (albeit a
bit removed from the mouth of the Cooper below Charleston, along which the
Ft. Sumter National Monument resides), didn't have enough upstairs to
figure out *that* error. It's a testament to his lack of brains that he
couldn't get that basic fact right, but someone who's been to South
Carolina twice in going on 51 years had no problem with it. Keep up the
good work in inducing him to show the world the empty space between his
ears.

Correcting one word does not indicate to me that I was wrong in any way.

No, it's just that you overlooked his error in putting it in the wrong state -
and you're a native of South Carolina, to boot, and you didn't even bother to
figure it out. That's like claiming the battle at San Jacinto was in
Oklahoma.

If he had typed Fourt Sumner would correcting it to Fort Sumter have clued
you in?

Is there anything in this universe that is capable of giving YOU a clue? So
far, that doesn't appear to be the situation...
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Marries Longtime Girlfriend 25 Jan 2006 11:45:45 AM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> writes:


Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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[...]


No. And the South was the ones that fired the first shot, at Fort
Sumner, NC.


Sumter, peon.


Peon? He's making far more than you ever will.

So I am trying to remember history that I learned over 25 years ago.
You did not even remember that it was the South that fired first and
started the war. In a war, armies invade their enemy's territory. The
South invited the invasion by starting the war.


It was Fort Sumter, SC...and Johnny, who lives in South Carolina (albeit