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"papa jack" |
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27 Oct 2004 09:09:45 AM |
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Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
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Excerpts:
"BAGHDAD — Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
"'If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating
losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John]
Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American
people,' said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the
Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical
group that vocally supports the resistance.
"Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mount-
ing violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances.
"'American elections and Iraq are linked tightly
together,' he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter.
'We've got to work to change the election, and we've
done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into
the mud.'
[...]
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Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
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| User: "Cleopatra" |
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27 Oct 2004 05:29:29 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in message news:<bd9f1f6b.0410270609.15e02c54@posting.google.com>...
(snip)
Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Uh, these guys know what this treasonous twink did 30 years ago, and
they also know a leopard never changes his spots. They're more sure of
what Kerry will do than they are another sunrise.
Cleopatra
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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28 Oct 2004 02:17:32 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote...
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
"BAGHDAD ? Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
[...]
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Since when are people who are fighting an occupying army on their own
soil terrorists?
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
27 Oct 2004 10:58:59 AM |
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On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"BAGHDAD — Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
"'If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating
losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John]
Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American
people,' said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the
Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical
group that vocally supports the resistance.
"Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mount-
ing violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances.
"'American elections and Iraq are linked tightly
together,' he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter.
'We've got to work to change the election, and we've
done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into
the mud.'
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
It's just amazing that people living in a country invaded by the US on
the strength of nothing more than deceptions wouldn't want the
occupying forces there all the time, isn't it? Ungrateful bastards. I
guess the US could drop bombs on their houses to teach them a lesson -
no, wait, that didn't work the first 2000 times, did it...
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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27 Oct 2004 11:03:01 AM |
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Adam H. wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"BAGHDAD — Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
"'If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating
losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John]
Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American
people,' said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the
Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical
group that vocally supports the resistance.
"Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mount-
ing violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances.
"'American elections and Iraq are linked tightly
together,' he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter.
'We've got to work to change the election, and we've
done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into
the mud.'
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
It's just amazing that people living in a country invaded by the US on
the strength of nothing more than deceptions wouldn't want the
occupying forces there all the time, isn't it? Ungrateful bastards. I
guess the US could drop bombs on their houses to teach them a lesson -
no, wait, that didn't work the first 2000 times, did it...
One well placed bomb in Afghanistan and the whole Iraq fiasco would've
been a non-issue. One well placed bomb and we probably could've
convinced Saddam to just give it up.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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28 Oct 2004 06:13:58 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Adam H. wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack)
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
But Bush has ignored al Qaeda since he decided that he wanted to
invade Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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28 Oct 2004 09:07:44 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Adam H. wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack)
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
But Bush has ignored al Qaeda since he decided that he wanted to
invade Iraq.
And THAT is what I believe to be the biggest blunder of the last four
years. We definitely should've taken care of Osama and his lackeys
first, then dealt with Korea, then perhaps Iran and/or Syria. Iraq
should've been much further down the priority list.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
29 Oct 2004 12:16:12 AM |
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In article <Q27gd.1190$221.779@news01.roc.ny>,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Adam H. wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack)
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
But Bush has ignored al Qaeda since he decided that he wanted to
invade Iraq.
And THAT is what I believe to be the biggest blunder of the last four
years. We definitely should've taken care of Osama and his lackeys
first, then dealt with Korea, then perhaps Iran and/or Syria. Iraq
should've been much further down the priority list.
DING! DING! DING! Exactly.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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29 Oct 2004 12:15:29 AM |
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In article <VEPfd.1116$xI.322@news01.roc.ny>,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
One well placed bomb in Afghanistan and the whole Iraq fiasco would've
been a non-issue. One well placed bomb and we probably could've
convinced Saddam to just give it up.
Huh? Are you serious? Psst! There were lots of well placed bombs
dropped in Afghanistan, and several not well placed bombs too.
Saddam was bluffing with Bush. Play poker sometime and you might
get the concept of bluffing. What mystifies me is why Saddam played
this strategy at all, as it had "fiasco" written all over it from the
beginning.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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29 Oct 2004 10:28:21 AM |
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Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <VEPfd.1116$xI.322@news01.roc.ny>,
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
One well placed bomb in Afghanistan and the whole Iraq fiasco would've
been a non-issue. One well placed bomb and we probably could've
convinced Saddam to just give it up.
Huh? Are you serious? Psst! There were lots of well placed bombs
dropped in Afghanistan, and several not well placed bombs too.
I'm talking the big one, with the bright flash and subsequent mushroom
cloud.
Saddam was bluffing with Bush. Play poker sometime and you might
get the concept of bluffing.
Every Saturday night throughout the winter.
What mystifies me is why Saddam played
this strategy at all, as it had "fiasco" written all over it from the
beginning.
He wasn't that bright.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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27 Oct 2004 11:39:12 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:03:01 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net>
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
Adam H. wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"BAGHDAD — Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
"'If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating
losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John]
Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American
people,' said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the
Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical
group that vocally supports the resistance.
"Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mount-
ing violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances.
"'American elections and Iraq are linked tightly
together,' he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter.
'We've got to work to change the election, and we've
done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into
the mud.'
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
Well, Iran has endorsed Bush. Perhaps they're looking for a pass on
the whole human-rights issue, like Saudi Arabia.
It's just amazing that people living in a country invaded by the US on
the strength of nothing more than deceptions wouldn't want the
occupying forces there all the time, isn't it? Ungrateful bastards. I
guess the US could drop bombs on their houses to teach them a lesson -
no, wait, that didn't work the first 2000 times, did it...
One well placed bomb in Afghanistan and the whole Iraq fiasco would've
been a non-issue. One well placed bomb and we probably could've
convinced Saddam to just give it up.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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29 Oct 2004 12:17:34 AM |
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In article <lnjvn016mmppf5sqoc51qkgd9j63mvkktv@4ax.com>,
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:03:01 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net>
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
Adam H. wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
On October 27, 2004, the Washington Times posted an article
by Borzou Daragahi titled: "Terrorists Hope to Defeat Bush
Through Iraq Violence." Go to:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041027-121030-7792r.htm
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"BAGHDAD — Leaders and supporters of the anti-U.S.
insurgency say their attacks in recent weeks have
a clear objective: The greater the violence, the
greater the chances President Bush will be defeated
on Tuesday and the Americans will go home.
"'If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating
losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John]
Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American
people,' said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the
Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical
group that vocally supports the resistance.
"Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mount-
ing violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances.
"'American elections and Iraq are linked tightly
together,' he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter.
'We've got to work to change the election, and we've
done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into
the mud.'
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
Unless they run Iran or al Qa'ida, of course. Then they'll wish for
Bush to win so they can keep recruiting to terrorist organizations
hand over fist.
I find it a little difficult to believe that people being bombed would
support the election of a president whose policy is to continue to bomb
them.
Well, Iran has endorsed Bush. Perhaps they're looking for a pass on
the whole human-rights issue, like Saudi Arabia.
Iran and Iraq are (or were) enemies. Bush did Iran a huge favor by
taking out Iraq. Now, Iran has one less enemy in the Middle East.
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| User: "John Savard" |
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28 Oct 2004 09:59:20 AM |
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On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a major leader
of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was kind enough, recently, to say
that he had settled his differences with Osama bin Laden, and now
acknowledges him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people know that we
really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier statement by
al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry would be "clever enough"
to make America seem like a friend to the Arab world, and take the wind
out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra Streisand would
never sing at another Democratic fundraiser again if Kerry decided to
let the Arab world push Israel into the sea, but (1) nothing less is
going to make that part of the world like us enough to put a real crimp
in al-Qaeda recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an unavoidable
burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected. His
distaste for war may place America in the position of a cornered rat...
from which position, of course, comes the fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will need to
impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes, much as the U.S.
imposed cultural changes on Japan after World War II. But I am strongly
against the position that we should just exterminate the world's Muslims
and "let Allah sort them out", as I've seen recently advocated in
another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy several
American cities through the use of weapons of mass destruction on one
day in the near future, that it might seem there is no alternative to
doing just that. It is in the interest of the Muslim world that
terrorism be crushed before that day comes.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "papa jack" |
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28 Oct 2004 06:11:32 PM |
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jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) wrote
in message news:<41810578.1485937@news.ecn.ab.ca>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
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Papa Jack wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
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John Savard wrote:
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,
a major leader of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was
kind enough, recently, to say that he had settled his
differences with Osama bin Laden, and now acknowledges
him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people
know that we really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier state-
ment by al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry
would be "clever enough" to make America seem like a friend
to the Arab world, and take the wind out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra
Streisand would never sing at another Democratic fundraiser
again if Kerry decided to let the Arab world push Israel into
the sea, but (1) nothing less is going to make that part of
the world like us enough to put a real crimp in al-Qaeda
recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an
unavoidable burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected.
His distaste for war may place America in the position of a
cornered rat... from which position, of course, comes the
fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will
need to impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes,
much as the U.S. imposed cultural changes on Japan after World
War II. But I am strongly against the position that we should
just exterminate the world's Muslims and "let Allah sort them
out", as I've seen recently advocated in another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy
several American cities through the use of weapons of mass
destruction on one day in the near future, that it might seem
there is no alternative to doing just that. It is in the interest
of the Muslim world that terrorism be crushed before that day
comes.
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Papa Jack replied:
I was somewhat surprised today to hear the following comments
by Rush Limbaugh:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102804/content/institute.guest.html
"...at some point, dealing with these people is going
to require taking steps that the American people are
going to have to be prepared for, and they're not
going to be easy steps. They're going to be brutal.
I'm talking about we are going to have to exercise
some very, very brutal, take some very, very brutal
military steps. We're going to have to maybe use
MORE THAN JUST CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS ON THESE PEOPLE.
You know, it's like trying to wipe out cockroaches
with Raid. That's not strong enough. You know, you're
not going to call the pest control guy and get rid of
them.
"They're going to pop up no matter where they are. I
mean, they say even cockroaches are the only thing
around that would survive a nuclear blast. That's
kind of like who these terrorists are. They're all
over the place, and it's going to take massive, mas-
sive use of force at some point to deal with this,
wherever these people are, and I think a second term
for George W. Bush where there is no concern for being
reelected and so forth might offer a little bit more
flexibility and freedom in dealing with this as it
happens. In other words, I think you're going to see
-- and I'm just guessing -- what you want to see in
Fallujah now you're going to see it a little bit more
frequently and more common after the election is over.
The Brits have been moved up from the south into Bagh-
dad freeing us to go and get ready for Fallujah and
have more force there. ..."
Limbaugh has a daily audience of about 22 million listeners.
I think LImbaugh is wrong about our having to use "MORE THAN
JUST CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS." At least, I certainly hope he's
wrong. But, I really do agree the American people need to
better understand the "war on terror" is eventually going to
be very threatening to U.S. citizens going about their everyday
lives in America.
For example, go to:
http://www.drudgereport.com/abct2.htm
When I read the daily headlines of the latest terrorist
horrors, I am reminded of the Angel of the Lord talking
to Hagar (the mother of all Arabs) in Genesis 16:
10 Then the Angel of the LORD said to her, "I will
multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that
they shall not be counted for multitude."
11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her:
"Behold, you are with child,
And you shall bear a son.
You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
12 He shall be a wild man;
His hand shall be against every man,
And every man's hand against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of
all his brethren."
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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31 Oct 2004 01:08:22 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I was somewhat surprised today to hear the following comments
by Rush Limbaugh:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102804/content/institute.guest.html
"...at some point, dealing with these people is going
to require taking steps that the American people are
going to have to be prepared for, and they're not
going to be easy steps. They're going to be brutal.
I'm talking about we are going to have to exercise
some very, very brutal, take some very, very brutal
military steps. We're going to have to maybe use
MORE THAN JUST CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS ON THESE PEOPLE.
You know, it's like trying to wipe out cockroaches
with Raid. That's not strong enough. You know, you're
not going to call the pest control guy and get rid of
them.
Nazis and Jews.
Neocons and Muslims.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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28 Oct 2004 10:08:33 AM |
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In article <41810578.1485937@news.ecn.ab.ca>, John Savard
<jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a major leader
of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was kind enough, recently, to say
that he had settled his differences with Osama bin Laden, and now
acknowledges him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people know that we
really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier statement by
al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry would be "clever enough"
to make America seem like a friend to the Arab world, and take the wind
out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra Streisand would
never sing at another Democratic fundraiser again if Kerry decided to
let the Arab world push Israel into the sea, but (1) nothing less is
going to make that part of the world like us enough to put a real crimp
in al-Qaeda recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an unavoidable
burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected. His
distaste for war may place America in the position of a cornered rat...
from which position, of course, comes the fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will need to
impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes, much as the U.S.
imposed cultural changes on Japan after World War II. But I am strongly
against the position that we should just exterminate the world's Muslims
and "let Allah sort them out", as I've seen recently advocated in
another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy several
American cities through the use of weapons of mass destruction on one
day in the near future, that it might seem there is no alternative to
doing just that. It is in the interest of the Muslim world that
terrorism be crushed before that day comes.
Terrorists have already acknowledged that Bush was the best thing that
ever happened to them.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
28 Oct 2004 06:07:00 PM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <41810578.1485937@news.ecn.ab.ca>, John Savard
<jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a major leader
of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was kind enough, recently, to say
that he had settled his differences with Osama bin Laden, and now
acknowledges him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people know that we
really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier statement by
al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry would be "clever enough"
to make America seem like a friend to the Arab world, and take the wind
out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra Streisand would
never sing at another Democratic fundraiser again if Kerry decided to
let the Arab world push Israel into the sea, but (1) nothing less is
going to make that part of the world like us enough to put a real crimp
in al-Qaeda recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an unavoidable
burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected. His
distaste for war may place America in the position of a cornered rat...
from which position, of course, comes the fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will need to
impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes, much as the U.S.
imposed cultural changes on Japan after World War II. But I am strongly
against the position that we should just exterminate the world's Muslims
and "let Allah sort them out", as I've seen recently advocated in
another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy several
American cities through the use of weapons of mass destruction on one
day in the near future, that it might seem there is no alternative to
doing just that. It is in the interest of the Muslim world that
terrorism be crushed before that day comes.
Terrorists have already acknowledged that Bush was the best thing that
ever happened to them.
And we all know how honest and trustworthy the terrorists are.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
28 Oct 2004 06:11:54 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:oYegd.1259$Oy1.1233
@news01.roc.ny:
David W. Barnes wrote:
Terrorists have already acknowledged that Bush was the best thing that
ever happened to them.
And we all know how honest and trustworthy the terrorists are.
certainly no less so than, say, bush/chaney
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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28 Oct 2004 07:59:16 PM |
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In article <oYegd.1259$Oy1.1233@news01.roc.ny>, Frank Dwyer
<fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <41810578.1485937@news.ecn.ab.ca>, John Savard
<jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a major leader
of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was kind enough, recently, to say
that he had settled his differences with Osama bin Laden, and now
acknowledges him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people know that we
really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier statement by
al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry would be "clever enough"
to make America seem like a friend to the Arab world, and take the wind
out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra Streisand would
never sing at another Democratic fundraiser again if Kerry decided to
let the Arab world push Israel into the sea, but (1) nothing less is
going to make that part of the world like us enough to put a real crimp
in al-Qaeda recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an unavoidable
burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected. His
distaste for war may place America in the position of a cornered rat...
from which position, of course, comes the fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will need to
impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes, much as the U.S.
imposed cultural changes on Japan after World War II. But I am strongly
against the position that we should just exterminate the world's Muslims
and "let Allah sort them out", as I've seen recently advocated in
another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy several
American cities through the use of weapons of mass destruction on one
day in the near future, that it might seem there is no alternative to
doing just that. It is in the interest of the Muslim world that
terrorism be crushed before that day comes.
Terrorists have already acknowledged that Bush was the best thing that
ever happened to them.
And we all know how honest and trustworthy the terrorists are.
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
28 Oct 2004 11:11:08 PM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <oYegd.1259$Oy1.1233@news01.roc.ny>, Frank Dwyer
<fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <41810578.1485937@news.ecn.ab.ca>, John Savard
<jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:
On 27 Oct 2004 07:09:45 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
The terrorists know where President Bush stands on the
issues of interest to them. They (like everyone else)
aren't real sure where Kerry stands -- so, they'll try
to help Kerry in the hopes he will be soft.
That's true, but on the other hand, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a major leader
of the attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, was kind enough, recently, to say
that he had settled his differences with Osama bin Laden, and now
acknowledges him as the leader of the world Muslim struggle.
How better to help Bush than by letting the American people know that we
really _are_ fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq?
Of course, I discount as mere posturing the earlier statement by
al-Qaeda that they hope Bush wins because Kerry would be "clever enough"
to make America seem like a friend to the Arab world, and take the wind
out of al-Qaeda's sails.
It would be in poor taste, perhaps, to say that Barbra Streisand would
never sing at another Democratic fundraiser again if Kerry decided to
let the Arab world push Israel into the sea, but (1) nothing less is
going to make that part of the world like us enough to put a real crimp
in al-Qaeda recruiting efforts, and (2) it is the Democrats, not the
Republicans, that regard Israel as a friend rather than an unavoidable
burden.
I tremble for fear for the Arab world should Kerry be elected. His
distaste for war may place America in the position of a cornered rat...
from which position, of course, comes the fiercest fighting.
I think that we may well be in a position already that we will need to
impose on the entire Islamic world cultural changes, much as the U.S.
imposed cultural changes on Japan after World War II. But I am strongly
against the position that we should just exterminate the world's Muslims
and "let Allah sort them out", as I've seen recently advocated in
another newsgroup.
It isn't unimaginable to me, though, that if terrorists destroy several
American cities through the use of weapons of mass destruction on one
day in the near future, that it might seem there is no alternative to
doing just that. It is in the interest of the Muslim world that
terrorism be crushed before that day comes.
Terrorists have already acknowledged that Bush was the best thing that
ever happened to them.
And we all know how honest and trustworthy the terrorists are.
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
I don't believe them ever.
The best way for them (our enemy) to get us to get rid of Bush is to
proclaim their support of him.
I highly doubt Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
29 Oct 2004 06:02:25 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:wpjgd.1297$SO1.255
@news01.roc.ny:
David W. Barnes wrote:
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
I don't believe them ever.
The best way for them (our enemy) to get us to get rid of Bush is to
proclaim their support of him.
I highly doubt Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.
you've made other mistakes too.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
29 Oct 2004 07:16:55 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:wpjgd.1297$SO1.255
@news01.roc.ny:
David W. Barnes wrote:
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
I don't believe them ever.
The best way for them (our enemy) to get us to get rid of Bush is to
proclaim their support of him.
I highly doubt Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe it.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
29 Oct 2004 07:19:50 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:X3Bgd.1069$lD5.845
@news02.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:wpjgd.1297$SO1.255
@news01.roc.ny:
David W. Barnes wrote:
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
I don't believe them ever.
The best way for them (our enemy) to get us to get rid of Bush is to
proclaim their support of him.
I highly doubt Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to terrorism has
been something other than the worst thing to ever happen to the usa. maybe
someday you'll believe it.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
29 Oct 2004 10:29:30 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:X3Bgd.1069$lD5.845
@news02.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:wpjgd.1297$SO1.255
@news01.roc.ny:
David W. Barnes wrote:
So we should believe them when we want what they say to be true but not
when we don't? That's convenient.
I don't believe them ever.
The best way for them (our enemy) to get us to get rid of Bush is to
proclaim their support of him.
I highly doubt Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to terrorism has
been something other than the worst thing to ever happen to the usa. maybe
someday you'll believe it.
Our responses to terrorism will never and can never be the worst thing
to ever happen to the USA. The terrorism we're responding to is.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 04:35:13 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:uUDgd.1396$gf2.973@news01.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe
it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to
terrorism has been something other than the worst thing to ever happen
to the usa. maybe someday you'll believe it.
Our responses to terrorism will never and can never be the worst thing
to ever happen to the USA.
they already have been.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 04:41:07 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:uUDgd.1396$gf2.973@news01.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe
it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to
terrorism has been something other than the worst thing to ever happen
to the usa. maybe someday you'll believe it.
Our responses to terrorism will never and can never be the worst thing
to ever happen to the USA.
they already have been.
Nice snip. When you're ready to acknowledge the rest of what I wrote,
let me know.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 04:43:37 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:TTTgd.1461$zV2.357
@news01.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe
it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to
terrorism has been something other than the worst thing to ever happen
to the usa. maybe someday you'll believe it.
Our responses to terrorism will never and can never be the worst thing
to ever happen to the USA.
they already have been.
Nice snip. When you're ready to acknowledge the rest of what I wrote,
let me know.
seems that your emotions have overcome your ability to evaluate data. i'm
disappointed in you. i thought you were better than that.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 06:41:07 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:TTTgd.1461$zV2.357
@news01.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
you've made other mistakes too.
Keep telling yourself that Bush's continued aggression against
terrorists is somehow good for them, someday you might actually believe
it.
keep telling yourself that bush's horribly bungled responses to
terrorism has been something other than the worst thing to ever happen
to the usa. maybe someday you'll believe it.
Our responses to terrorism will never and can never be the worst thing
to ever happen to the USA.
they already have been.
Nice snip. When you're ready to acknowledge the rest of what I wrote,
let me know.
seems that your emotions have overcome your ability to evaluate data. i'm
disappointed in you. i thought you were better than that.
It has nothing to do with emotions and there is no data to evaluate in
this discussion. It has to do with discussing what I wrote - in it's
entirety.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 07:08:29 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:nEVgd.1166$nF4.127@news02.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
seems that your emotions have overcome your ability to evaluate data.
i'm disappointed in you. i thought you were better than that.
It has nothing to do with emotions
that's quite an emotional comment.
and there is no data to evaluate in this discussion.
if you say so.
It has to do with discussing what I wrote
previously done, in it's entirety.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 07:19:49 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:nEVgd.1166$nF4.127@news02.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
seems that your emotions have overcome your ability to evaluate data.
i'm disappointed in you. i thought you were better than that.
It has nothing to do with emotions
that's quite an emotional comment.
and there is no data to evaluate in this discussion.
if you say so.
It has to do with discussing what I wrote
previously done, in it's entirety.
Yeah, ok. Present your amateur psychoanalysis and lies to someone who cares.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Terrorists Try to Help Kerry |
30 Oct 2004 07:35:31 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:FcWgd.1233$sv4.1056@news02.roc.ny:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
seems that your emotions have overcome your ability to evaluate data.
i'm disappointed in you. i thought you were better than that.
It has nothing to do with emotions
that's quite an emotional comment.
and there is no data to evaluate in this discussion.
if you say so.
It has to do with discussing what I wrote
previously done, in it's entirety.
Yeah, ok.
glad you agree.
Present your amateur psychoanalysis and lies to someone who cares.
make a new thread if you want to change the subject.
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