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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Karengrl" |
| Date: |
12 Nov 2004 06:35:27 AM |
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Tests for gay babies |
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 04:25:16 PM |
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"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying; in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity, it
is not "gay". Thus, the only test to know if it is gay is if it has engaged
in such activity. Has it?
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 04:42:28 PM |
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Chris wrote:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying; in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity, it
is not "gay". Thus, the only test to know if it is gay is if it has engaged
in such activity. Has it?
I think Karen is concerned about the predisposition to homosexuality.
Just in the same way that the people who select certain embryos over
others are concerned about predisposition to disease.
It's not our job to impose on Karen our own morality. They are her
choices. It's not our job even to question her rationalisation, or the
method she has used to arrive at her conclusions. A society that imposes
its will on a woman to deny her an abortion because her baby is likely
to be a homosexual is not a society worth living in.
Oh, but hang on. There is no baby. Sorry.
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 05:13:43 PM |
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"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:41953e76$0$27546$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
Chris wrote:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity,
it
is not "gay". Thus, the only test to know if it is gay is if it has
engaged
in such activity. Has it?
I think Karen is concerned about the predisposition to homosexuality. Just
in the same way that the people who select certain embryos over others are
concerned about predisposition to disease.
I think your straining to take an obvious troll seriously, in order to
build a *weak* strawman.
It's not our job to impose on Karen our own morality. They are her
choices. It's not our job even to question her rationalisation, or the
method she has used to arrive at her conclusions.
That's why "choice" should be in the hands of she that is pregnant.
A society that imposes
its will on a woman to deny her an abortion because her baby is likely to
be a homosexual is not a society worth living in.
LOL! Changed your mind rather quickly, haven't you?:
"I'm a pro-lifer living in a pro abortion society. I consider it my duty
to stay and fight for what I perceive to be right and just, against the
odds and for what it's worth.
And yet for some people, when the going gets tough, theu convictions
just take over and they....
RUN AWAY"
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:28:39 +0000
From: Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Run away, run away...
Message-ID: <418fe71a$0$27543$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
Oh, but hang on. There is no baby. Sorry.
<yawn>
LC~ Amused watching Michael contradict himself whilst playing with strawmen.
"I detest that man, who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and
speaks forth another." -- Homer
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 05:53:12 PM |
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Loose Cannon wrote:
its will on a woman to deny her an abortion because her baby is likely to
be a homosexual is not a society worth living in.
LOL! Changed your mind rather quickly, haven't you?:
"I'm a pro-lifer living in a pro abortion society. I consider it my duty
to stay and fight for what I perceive to be right and just, against the
odds and for what it's worth.
And yet for some people, when the going gets tough, theu convictions
just take over and they....
RUN AWAY"
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:28:39 +0000
From: Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Run away, run away...
Message-ID: <418fe71a$0$27543$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
Your years on Usenet have clearly not honed your ability to detect
sarcasm and irony. Or practice it.
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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13 Nov 2004 01:23:21 PM |
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"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:41954f0a$0$27534$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
Loose Cannon wrote:
its will on a woman to deny her an abortion because her baby is likely to
be a homosexual is not a society worth living in.
LOL! Changed your mind rather quickly, haven't you?:
"I'm a pro-lifer living in a pro abortion society. I consider it my duty
to stay and fight for what I perceive to be right and just, against the
odds and for what it's worth.
And yet for some people, when the going gets tough, theu convictions
just take over and they....
RUN AWAY"
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:28:39 +0000
From: Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Run away, run away...
Message-ID: <418fe71a$0$27543$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
Your years on Usenet have clearly not honed your ability to detect sarcasm
and irony. Or practice it.
Uh huh. Nice try.
You're no doubt embarrassed by your obvious hypocrisy, in light of your
accusations of "hypocrisy and double standards" directed toward pro-choicers
elsewhere in this thread.
LC~ Irony so rich it's on it's own island in the Caribbean.
"The truth knocks on the door, and you say, 'Go away, I'm
looking for the truth,' and so it goes away. Puzzling."~Robert M. Pirsig
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| User: "Murdoc" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 07:51:23 PM |
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Michael Calwell wrote:
Chris wrote:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying; in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity, it
is not "gay". Thus, the only test to know if it is gay is if it has engaged
in such activity. Has it?
I think Karen is concerned about the predisposition to homosexuality. Just in the same way that
the people who select certain embryos over others are concerned about predisposition to disease.
What next? Will the parents want to check if their baby will have a predisposition to death?
Learning? Growing? Making decisions? Where will it end?
<snipped rest />
--
Murdoc
Posted with XanaNews v1.16.4.6
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 07:46:34 PM |
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Murdoc wrote:
Michael Calwell wrote:
Chris wrote:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying; in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity, it
is not "gay". Thus, the only test to know if it is gay is if it has engaged
in such activity. Has it?
I think Karen is concerned about the predisposition to homosexuality. Just in the same way that
the people who select certain embryos over others are concerned about predisposition to disease.
What next? Will the parents want to check if their baby will have a predisposition to death?
Learning? Growing? Making decisions? Where will it end?
<snipped rest />
Where, indeed, will it end. We have had eugenics for years, masquerading
as concern. Now, we have eugenics, but the face it presents is the face
of "choice". And yes, it will be hell.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 05:33:05 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying; in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity, it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 08:37:14 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:kvhap0h5b64nds58j3hp3hg5d79lmt0tjg@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity,
it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
Assuming by your term "virgin" that you mean one who has not engaged in ANY
sexual activity with another, then yes, there is no such thing.
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
Thank you for your opinion, but troll or no troll my response is true.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 08:49:42 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:37:14 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:kvhap0h5b64nds58j3hp3hg5d79lmt0tjg@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual activity,
it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
Assuming by your term "virgin" that you mean one who has not engaged in ANY
sexual activity with another, then yes, there is no such thing.
Wrong.
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
Thank you for your opinion, but troll or no troll my response is true.
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 10:47:37 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:cgtap0hcb1uv69ja1mm1qj2fmfn8o901cr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:37:14 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:kvhap0h5b64nds58j3hp3hg5d79lmt0tjg@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's
qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual
activity,
it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
Assuming by your term "virgin" that you mean one who has not engaged in
ANY
sexual activity with another, then yes, there is no such thing.
Wrong.
What's a "heterosexual virgin"?
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
Thank you for your opinion, but troll or no troll my response is true.
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Non sequitur.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 11:46:45 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:47:37 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:cgtap0hcb1uv69ja1mm1qj2fmfn8o901cr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:37:14 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:kvhap0h5b64nds58j3hp3hg5d79lmt0tjg@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's
qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual
activity,
it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
Assuming by your term "virgin" that you mean one who has not engaged in
ANY
sexual activity with another, then yes, there is no such thing.
Wrong.
What's a "heterosexual virgin"?
A heterosexual who's never had sex.
Duh.
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
Thank you for your opinion, but troll or no troll my response is true.
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Non sequitur.
No it's not, unless you've managed to forget the contents of the
thread in the last three hours. I suggest you look up 'sexuality'
before you continue making a fool of yourself.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
14 Nov 2004 02:59:51 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:ls7bp0t9bbif2s3b5d4tj4r9gsupvsal7q@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:47:37 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:cgtap0hcb1uv69ja1mm1qj2fmfn8o901cr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:37:14 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:kvhap0h5b64nds58j3hp3hg5d79lmt0tjg@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:25:16 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK? I dont want a gay or
lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
Karen
"Gay/lesbian" is an adjective describing the noun that it's
qualifying;
in
this case the baby. Unless the baby has engaged in homosexual
activity,
it
is not "gay".
False. Unless you want to tell us that there's no such thing as a
heterosexual virgin either?
Assuming by your term "virgin" that you mean one who has not engaged
in
ANY
sexual activity with another, then yes, there is no such thing.
Wrong.
What's a "heterosexual virgin"?
A heterosexual who's never had sex.
Petitio principii. Apparently, my question has escaped you. Since a virgin
is one who has not engaged in sex with another, then they cannot be defined
as "heterosexual".
Duh.
You're not only responding to a troll, you're managing to sound even
dumber than that troll.
Thank you for your opinion, but troll or no troll my response is true.
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Non sequitur.
No it's not,
Yes it is because your above statement does NOT follow from our discussion.
unless you've managed to forget the contents of the
thread in the last three hours. I suggest you look up 'sexuality'
before you continue making a fool of yourself.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Karengrl" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
13 Nov 2004 06:53:29 AM |
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No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Hello,
Does this mean theres tests for gay or lesbo babies then? I think that
if I had to listen to fudgepacking going on in my house Id go mad.
Like it would be psycological torture why should I have to handle
that??????? Its also true that gays are SIX TIMES more likely to be
kidie fiddlers than normal people so that means that if i have an
abortion of a fagot then I stop kids being abused!!
So if you can tell me what tests I can do then???
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
13 Nov 2004 09:38:55 AM |
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On 13 Nov 2004 04:53:29 -0800, (Karengrl) wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Hello,
Does this mean theres tests for gay or lesbo babies then? I think that
if I had to listen to fudgepacking going on in my house Id go mad.
Like it would be psycological torture why should I have to handle
that??????? Its also true that gays are SIX TIMES more likely to be
kidie fiddlers than normal people so that means that if i have an
abortion of a fagot then I stop kids being abused!!
So if you can tell me what tests I can do then???
You could start by studying and getting your GED.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Karengrl" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
13 Nov 2004 02:45:37 PM |
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Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ujacp0ljiummlukiluosg6e88a3q87ghkv@4ax.com>...
On 13 Nov 2004 04:53:29 -0800, (Karengrl) wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Hello,
Does this mean theres tests for gay or lesbo babies then? I think that
if I had to listen to fudgepacking going on in my house Id go mad.
Like it would be psycological torture why should I have to handle
that??????? Its also true that gays are SIX TIMES more likely to be
kidie fiddlers than normal people so that means that if i have an
abortion of a fagot then I stop kids being abused!!
So if you can tell me what tests I can do then???
You could start by studying and getting your GED.
Hello???? any prochoicers on this group or is the internet now being
owned by loads of christian prolifer extremists?????
What dose it take to get it into your t hick litle head you freakin
idiot that woman are people who should ahave theyre bodies respected
and their choices respected???
If I get a fagot or a lesbo baby I swear I will either kill me or it
or both. Thats a good enough reason for abortion and its not a baby so
its the best think. But if its a normal baby I dont want an aborion so
wears the choice??????
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Karen and Michael Caldwel are the same |
13 Nov 2004 06:08:25 PM |
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"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411131245.73b3508b@posting.google.com...
This Karengrl is obviously a troll, and I believe also a sockpuppet of
Michael Caldwel. Caldwel spends too much time defending her patent *****
by lying about the rest of us.
I suspected it by his second post, but I checked header information just to
make certain.
My NNTP-Posting-Host is: 70.112.194.100
Adam's is: 69.195.79.151
.....*BUT*
Karen and Caldwel's both have the same: 82.70.132.246.
You are such a fucking loser and a liar Caldwel, and you have proven my
words to be absolutely correct.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
13 Nov 2004 06:41:28 PM |
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On 13 Nov 2004 12:45:37 -0800, (Karengrl) wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ujacp0ljiummlukiluosg6e88a3q87ghkv@4ax.com>...
On 13 Nov 2004 04:53:29 -0800, (Karengrl) wrote,
akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
No, it isn't. Sexuality does not appear once sexual activity commences
for the first time.
Hello,
Does this mean theres tests for gay or lesbo babies then? I think that
if I had to listen to fudgepacking going on in my house Id go mad.
Like it would be psycological torture why should I have to handle
that??????? Its also true that gays are SIX TIMES more likely to be
kidie fiddlers than normal people so that means that if i have an
abortion of a fagot then I stop kids being abused!!
So if you can tell me what tests I can do then???
You could start by studying and getting your GED.
Hello???? any prochoicers on this group or is the internet now being
owned by loads of christian prolifer extremists?????
Here's a clue for you to beat into your head - just because I disagree
with your thoughts there doesn't make me christian, pro-life OR
extreme.
What dose it take to get it into your t hick litle head you freakin
idiot that woman are people who should ahave theyre bodies respected
and their choices respected???
And when are you going to get it into your think little head that I'm
not a pro-lifer? As for your choices, there's nothing says I have to
respect them. I respect your right to make them, and yes, there is a
difference.
If I get a fagot or a lesbo baby I swear I will either kill me or it
or both. Thats a good enough reason for abortion and its not a baby so
its the best think. But if its a normal baby I dont want an aborion so
wears the choice??????
Actually, your attitude is a good enough reason never to have
children. Think about it. You're about as closed-minded as the
pro-lifers you claim to dislike so much.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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14 Nov 2004 05:13:19 AM |
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Adam H. wrote:
Hello???? any prochoicers on this group or is the internet now being
owned by loads of christian prolifer extremists?????
Here's a clue for you to beat into your head - just because I disagree
with your thoughts there doesn't make me christian, pro-life OR
extreme.
What were you disagreeing with Adam? Don't understand, sorry. Maybe you
could explain your problem with the hypothetical abortion of children
with a predisposition to homosexuality?
What dose it take to get it into your t hick litle head you freakin
idiot that woman are people who should ahave theyre bodies respected
and their choices respected???
And when are you going to get it into your think little head that I'm
not a pro-lifer? As for your choices, there's nothing says I have to
respect them. I respect your right to make them, and yes, there is a
difference.
What is it about this choice you don't respect Adam? Don't understand,
sorry. Maybe you could explain your problem with the hypothetical
abortion of children with a predisposition to homosexuality?
If I get a fagot or a lesbo baby I swear I will either kill me or it
or both. Thats a good enough reason for abortion and its not a baby so
its the best think. But if its a normal baby I dont want an aborion so
wears the choice??????
Actually, your attitude is a good enough reason never to have
children. Think about it. You're about as closed-minded as the
pro-lifers you claim to dislike so much.
What's wrong with abortion Adam? Don't understand, sorry. Maybe you
could explain your problem abortion?
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 09:02:14 AM |
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"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK?
Play a Liza Minelli album. If the baby starts kicking wildly, you've got a
gay one.
I dont want a gay or lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
<sniff, sniff>
Nice try, troll. Not.
Karen
LC~ Thinks Karen should hope for 10 toes and 10 fingers, and let it go at
that.
"Against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain." ~Friedrich
von Schiller
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| User: "Karengrl" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 04:42:11 PM |
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"Loose Cannon" <looseain't@this.com> wrote in message news:<Wf4ld.24788$KJ6.15667@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK?
Play a Liza Minelli album. If the baby starts kicking wildly, you've got a
gay one.
I dont want a gay or lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
<sniff, sniff>
Nice try, troll. Not.
Karen
LC~ Thinks Karen should hope for 10 toes and 10 fingers, and let it go at
that.
"Against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain." ~Friedrich
von Schiller
Hi,
Can anybody actualy help me here!! I thought that some people knew
about abortions and could help.
Im 12 weeks pregnant and I definately dont want a gay baby no way. Can
you imagine having a quear as a daughter or a son?? Thank god theres
abortion so we can choose, but whats the point of abortion if you cant
tell whether your babies a quear???
I read once that there was a test for being a quear, or that people
were born quears so they must be able to tell. I would be happy to
spend lots of money on a test if there was one so if anyone can help
they can email me or if they know anyone who can help me can they also
email me.
Thanks everybody
Karen
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 04:58:56 PM |
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"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411121442.704ead56@posting.google.com...
"Loose Cannon" <looseain't@this.com> wrote in message
news:<Wf4ld.24788$KJ6.15667@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Karengrl" <karygrl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bd24af8e.0411120435.1bfef039@posting.google.com...
Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm pregnant and I want my baby but
as long as its not gay. Are there any tests I can do
on the baby to make sure its OK?
Play a Liza Minelli album. If the baby starts kicking wildly, you've got
a
gay one.
I dont want a gay or lesbian baby it would be too much and I want an
abortion if it is.
<sniff, sniff>
Nice try, troll. Not.
Karen
LC~ Thinks Karen should hope for 10 toes and 10 fingers, and let it go at
that.
"Against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain." ~Friedrich
von Schiller
Hi,
Can anybody actualy help me here!!
Try <alt.psychiatry>.
I thought that some people knew about abortions and could help.
Im 12 weeks pregnant and I definately dont want a gay baby no way. Can
you imagine having a quear as a daughter or a son?? Thank god theres
abortion so we can choose, but whats the point of abortion if you cant
tell whether your babies a quear???
Indeed.
Pregnant and abysmally stupid is no way to go through life.
I read once that there was a test for being a quear, or that people
were born quears so they must be able to tell. I would be happy to
spend lots of money on a test if there was one so if anyone can help
they can email me or if they know anyone who can help me can they also
email me.
Send me "lots of money". I will then be glad to inform you as to whether to
abort your potentially "quear" fetus.
HTH. HAND.
LC~ "Karen" wanders in to Usenet with big issues on her mind. Such as it is.
"Age is a very high price to pay for maturity."~Tom Stoppard
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 05:38:30 PM |
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Loose Cannon wrote:
Hi,
Can anybody actualy help me here!!
Try <alt.psychiatry>.
I thought that some people knew about abortions and could help.
Im 12 weeks pregnant and I definately dont want a gay baby no way. Can
you imagine having a quear as a daughter or a son?? Thank god theres
abortion so we can choose, but whats the point of abortion if you cant
tell whether your babies a quear???
Indeed.
Pregnant and abysmally stupid is no way to go through life.
The right to exercise choice is not stupidity. Get a life.
I read once that there was a test for being a quear, or that people
were born quears so they must be able to tell. I would be happy to
spend lots of money on a test if there was one so if anyone can help
they can email me or if they know anyone who can help me can they also
email me.
Send me "lots of money". I will then be glad to inform you as to whether to
abort your potentially "quear" fetus.
Very helpful.
HTH. HAND.
LC~ "Karen" wanders in to Usenet with big issues on her mind. Such as it is.
"Age is a very high price to pay for maturity."~Tom Stoppard
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 06:04:27 PM |
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"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:41954b98$0$27534$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
Loose Cannon wrote:
Hi,
Can anybody actualy help me here!!
Try <alt.psychiatry>.
I thought that some people knew about abortions and could help.
Im 12 weeks pregnant and I definately dont want a gay baby no way. Can
you imagine having a quear as a daughter or a son?? Thank god theres
abortion so we can choose, but whats the point of abortion if you cant
tell whether your babies a quear???
Indeed.
Pregnant and abysmally stupid is no way to go through life.
The right to exercise choice is not stupidity. Get a life.
Her posts indicate that she's as stupid as a box of rocks. Stupid people
like her raise stupid kids, and just imagine how shitty of a life her child
would have knowing that his/her mother was a bigot that detested their
existence for a genetic predisposition that she gave them.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
12 Nov 2004 06:08:12 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
Im 12 weeks pregnant and I definately dont want a gay baby no way. Can
you imagine having a quear as a daughter or a son?? Thank god theres
abortion so we can choose, but whats the point of abortion if you cant
tell whether your babies a quear???
Indeed.
Pregnant and abysmally stupid is no way to go through life.
The right to exercise choice is not stupidity. Get a life.
Her posts indicate that she's as stupid as a box of rocks. Stupid people
like her raise stupid kids, and just imagine how shitty of a life her child
would have knowing that his/her mother was a bigot that detested their
existence for a genetic predisposition that she gave them.
On that basis I think you should be looking at imposing abortion on
homosexual children of 'homophobic' mothers as a matter of principle
frankly. I mean, we've already had people on this board expressing the
view that disabled people should never have been born because of their
quality of life, so I hardly think we can make an exception for these
poor souls.
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| User: "junegill" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
14 Nov 2004 10:06:02 PM |
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"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:4195528e$0$27548$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
The other Donald wrote:
[snip]
On that basis I think you should be looking at imposing abortion on
homosexual children of 'homophobic' mothers as a matter of principle
frankly. I mean, we've already had people on this board expressing the
view that disabled people should never have been born because of their
quality of life, so I hardly think we can make an exception for these
poor souls.
Well, lookee here. Who are these people on this board who have said that
disabled people should never have been born? I think you mean me, don't
you, since I'm the one with whom you've been arguing this very topic in
another thread. You didn't respond to my last post to you in that thread,
so obviously you couldn't answer the points I made in it, yet here you are
misquoting me 'behind my back'. Did you hope I wouldn't see this post?
There are several adjectives to describe this sort of behaviour - sneaky and
cowardly being just two of them.
Let's get this straight: I have never said that disabled people should never
have been born. What I have said is that in many instances it would have
been better if they had never been born. If you can't differentiate between
the two statements then I suggest you take a remedial English course. If a
pregnant woman discovers that the foetus she is carrying has a gross
abnormality then it is entirely up to her to decide whether to abort or to
carry to term. It is no-one else's business, and she is under no obligation
to give any reason for her decision to anyone else.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "Ted Ryan" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
15 Nov 2004 02:10:23 AM |
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Who gets to decide for the baby? Did anyone bother to ask the baby whether
it would like to live? Why are the babies rights denied? Where is the
babies right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
Ted Ryan
"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:cn99va$ed$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:4195528e$0$27548$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
The other Donald wrote:
[snip]
On that basis I think you should be looking at imposing abortion on
homosexual children of 'homophobic' mothers as a matter of principle
frankly. I mean, we've already had people on this board expressing the
view that disabled people should never have been born because of their
quality of life, so I hardly think we can make an exception for these
poor souls.
Well, lookee here. Who are these people on this board who have said that
disabled people should never have been born? I think you mean me, don't
you, since I'm the one with whom you've been arguing this very topic in
another thread. You didn't respond to my last post to you in that thread,
so obviously you couldn't answer the points I made in it, yet here you are
misquoting me 'behind my back'. Did you hope I wouldn't see this post?
There are several adjectives to describe this sort of behaviour - sneaky
and
cowardly being just two of them.
Let's get this straight: I have never said that disabled people should
never
have been born. What I have said is that in many instances it would have
been better if they had never been born. If you can't differentiate
between
the two statements then I suggest you take a remedial English course. If
a
pregnant woman discovers that the foetus she is carrying has a gross
abnormality then it is entirely up to her to decide whether to abort or to
carry to term. It is no-one else's business, and she is under no
obligation
to give any reason for her decision to anyone else.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "junegill" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
15 Nov 2004 02:15:14 PM |
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"Ted Ryan" <coffeemonkey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OvZld.339399$wV.85446@attbi_s54...
Who gets to decide for the baby? Did anyone bother to ask the baby
whether
it would like to live? Why are the babies rights denied? Where is the
babies right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
What baby? There is no baby until after birth, at which time it does have
rights. If you mean an embryo or foetus, you tell me what their rights are
and where they are encoded in law.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
15 Nov 2004 09:20:16 PM |
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Ted Ryan <coffeemonkey@comcast.net> wrote:
Who gets to decide for the baby? Did anyone bother to ask the baby whether
it would like to live? Why are the babies rights denied?
Whgat rights are those? The right to use a woman's body? The right
to cause her harm and threaten her life?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Tests for gay babies |
15 Nov 2004 05:19:13 AM |
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junegill wrote:
"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:4195528e$0$27548$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
The other Donald wrote:
[snip]
On that basis I think you should be looking at imposing abortion on
homosexual children of 'homophobic' mothers as a matter of principle
frankly. I mean, we've already had people on this board expressing the
view that disabled people should never have been born because of their
quality of life, so I hardly think we can make an exception for these
poor souls.
Let's get this straight: I have never said that disabled people should never
have been born. What I have said is that in many instances it would have
been better if they had never been born. If you can't differentiate between
the two statements then I suggest you take a remedial English course. If a
pregnant woman discovers that the foetus she is carrying has a gross
abnormality then it is entirely up to her to decide whether to abort or to
carry to term. It is no-one else's business, and she is under no obligation
to give any reason for her decision to anyone else.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
Thanks June for that clarification.
Frankly, I do struggle to with the distinction between "some disabled
people should never have been born", and that all of them should never
have been born, simply because I'm looking at this in part from the
point of view of the choiceless disabled person for whom such a
distinction is meaningless.
Anyway, let's get back on topic!
Would you support a woman's right to choose to abort a child on the
basis of his or her predisposition to homosexuality?
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